Instead, they have come up with this one-size fits all monstrosity of a bill.

AnninCA on November 7, 2009 at 9:40 AM

That’s the liberal way….

jbh45 on November 7, 2009 at 9:43 AM

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That is one of the problems with all government problems. Once size fits all, when we all know it doesn’t.

Barney is on….

kringeesmom on November 7, 2009 at 2:48 PM

I noticed that too. Rules don’t count if the crowd is cheering for the Democrats who are ruining our country.

I think Charles Rangel said their (Congress) names will go down in history with FDR…..hmmm the only history that they will go down with is 2010 when the Democrats will be booted out of Congress. Now I call that history!!

capejasmine on November 7, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Me too! I had to leave the house for a few hours just to get away from the mess in Washington D.C.

We’ll know tonight and if the bill isn’t killed then I hope the Congress has some jobs lined up or have other plans made in 2010, because many are done.

Long answer here.

Exit question, if the Amendment passes would it survive conference? I think not.

OK, but that’s not now. I don’t know that you guys are right at all about private insurance disappearing. I tend to think that never will happen. Medicare supplemental plans are hugely popular, eg.

And I don’t see this country being at all willing to go the single payer route. We are not Europe.

AnninCA on November 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I’m talking about just the public option. When the private insurers no longer have a single policy written outside of the government mandated insurance requirements, they are in effect no longer private. They become essentially the equivalent to Fannie Mae. Those mandated requirements are those currently swimming around in Pelosi’s bill.

1) Government access to private medical information
2) Governemtn access to personal financial data and accounts
3) Threat of fines/imprisonment for non-comliance
4) Governemnt-determined care
etc..

Welcome folks, to the AnninCA Show, and watch everyone bounce off of her like a superball.

leftnomore on November 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM

LOL* I knew I should have gotten off this thread!

BobMbx on November 7, 2009 at 11:07 AM

OK, but that’s not now. I don’t know that you guys are right at all about private insurance disappearing. I tend to think that never will happen. Medicare supplemental plans are hugely popular, eg.

And I don’t see this country being at all willing to go the single payer route. We are not Europe.

The government shouldn’t have those records unless you’re actually choosing their public option.

AnninCA on November 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Well, duh.

And when there are no private insurers left, who won’t be “choosing” the public option? But you’re okay with a blanket waiver of Constitutional rights by being forced into a government plan? Doesn’t that, in effect, mean the government is taking away your constitutional right to privacy by using the threat of fines and/or imprisonment?

And what country are we talking about here?

I haven’t figured out how that one works, to be honest. I don’t understand why the privacy laws need to be skirted to implement the efficiency.

AnninCA on November 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM

That Constitution thingy is certainly a barrier to socialism, isn’t it?

I like electronic records, but they should be owned and controlled by owner and not government. You should have to sign off on anyone accessing your records. We should know each time someone accesses our health records and for what reason.

Ed Laskie on November 7, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Ditto here. I can’t figure out why they’d have to skirt HIPPA to implement this.

You sign off, then you can release. But why would they have to forego subpoena rights? The government shouldn’t have those records unless you’re actually choosing their public option.