Why was Hasan still in the Army?

posted at 9:30 am on November 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

About three hours ago, the AP finally joined the Washington Post and some other national news organizations in reporting the “troubling portrait” of Nidal Malik Hasan, the man believed responsible for 13 deaths and dozens of wounded at the world’s largest army base.  In hearing these details, many people wonder why the Army had ordered Hasan into a war zone — and perhaps why Hasan remained in the military at all:

For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July, the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some “difficulties” that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time. …

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case. …

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

“I don’t know why he listed Palestinian,” Khan said, “He was not born in Palestine.”

USA Today has even more this morning:

U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, was briefed by military officials and said Hasan had taken some unusual classes for someone studying about mental health.

“He took a lot of extra classes in weapons training, which seems a little odd for a psychiatrist,” McCaul said.

McCaul said Hasan had received poor grades for his work at Walter Reed and was not happy about his situation in Fort Hood, where Hasan apparently felt like “he didn’t fit in.”

“He’s disgruntled because he had a poor performance evaluation, he doesn’t believe in the mission, he’s looking at getting transferred to Afghanistan or Iraq,” McCaul said. “He’s not happy about all that.”

McCaul added that officials planned to interview Hasan to try to determine for sure that he was not working with foreign agents.

“From an intelligence standpoint, that’s key, finding out if he talked to anyone overseas,” McCaul said.

With all of these red flags, why was Hasan still in position to get deployed into a war zone?  Why hadn’t the Army taken action to isolate Hasan, or remove him entirely?  A Hot Air reader who served as a medical officer at Fort Hood earlier in this decade explains that the military has a great reluctance to act against his former colleagues, and that promotion of marginal medical officers is not unusual at all:

It is true that the promotion for medical and dental officers in the Army is extraordinarily easy. Just as long as you don’t kill anyone, fraternize with enlisted or come out of the closet, and get decent Officer Evaluation Reports, you’ll easily make Lieutenant Colonel in 20 years. With a little more work and additional schooling, you could make full Colonel. But basically you can set your clock to getting promoted every 7 years. So he may have had one bad report, but probably did barely enough to get him through the promotion board. But we don’t know what “bad” means…he may have simply failed the physical fitness tests, or he may have no clinical skills at all.

The Army has a unique way of handling providers who pose an obvious threat to soldiers they are supposed to care for. We had one dental officer who practiced dentistry far below the standard of care. He was moved first to doing examinations only (the most benign job) and eventually moved to an administrative job. The Army unfortunately can’t fire anyone, they just take them out of the equation or move them around to where they can’t hurt anyone. Being released from the military is a different story. Hasan’s obligation to the military depends on how much ROTC time, medical school time and residency time added up to. So if the Army paid for his education, he is obligated to serve, and there’s almost no way out of that. He could pay the Army back that money and get out of the contract, but that’s a long, long paper trail. There’s always the conscientious objector route, but if he was sincere, and not the loon he is appearing to be, his chain of command (superior officers) might have exempted him from deployment. However, he is a medical officer and NOT a combat soldier, so that argument just about flies out the window, since his role is medical support, and not combat. I’ve heard a lot of ways out of deployment (ie Ehren Watada, Tina Mahuika) and each case is unique. Ultimately the final decision can be influenced by the chain of command’s perception of the officer.

So not only would the Army be highly reluctant to discharge him, Hasan probably had few options for leaving the service, assuming that the Army paid for his medical education. That explains his rank, and his predicament in getting shipped out to Iraq and/or Afghanistan.   As a medical officer and not (necessarily) a combat officer, the conscientious objector route would not have applied anyway.

We’ll keep up with this story during the day as more developments occur.

Update: I agree with Rick Moran to some extent that casting this as an example of a pending wave of Islamic jihad in the US is just a wee bit premature, as well as a pending wave of fraggings over US war policy, etc etc etc.  Hasan appears to be a lunatic whose motivations — at least as far as we know at this point — are entirely his own delusions.  We shouldn’t be afraid to report the facts, but we should be wary about drawing wide-reaching conclusions from them until we have a lot more certainty.


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Go to hell Mr. President. Stay out of Texas. We dont need any more idiots who don’t have a job.

President Obama will travel this week to Austin, where the jobs market has been booming, to kick off a new focus on the middle class and economic growth.

TX-96 on May 6, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I wonder if there will be new lies that fall tripping from his lips… or will they simply recycle the same ones he told Ohio and Michigan before the last election?

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM

How many millions will they spend to lie to us again and how many great reports will come from the press to support those lies?

Pardonme on May 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Im taking credit for Texas
-dear leader

As you should
-lsm

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM

But he really, really means it this time. He’s focused like a laser on jobs, thinks about it every night before he goes to bed, and even thinks about it between putts on the golf course.

AZCoyote on May 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Brayam’s bent over and ready….

CW on May 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Squirrel for Benghazi

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Is somebody keeping track of these?

Way to many for me to remember.

cozmo on May 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Shouldn’t the Sequester cover this?

myiq2xu on May 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I’m proud that I moved to Texas last year. I highly encourage others to do so as well.

beatcanvas on May 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I’ve been in Austin when Al Gore’s motorcade came through. I-35 is the busiest Freeway and it goes right through the middel of town. Back then the airport was located in town on the east side of I-35. Now its south of town on SH71. A presidential motorcade will back up traffic to Waco.

But he’ll find most of our Texas libs in Austin so they’ll be good with it.

DanMan on May 6, 2013 at 3:28 PM

What Obama is really going to do is intertwine the economy and “immigration reform”. They did the same thing with Obamacare. Remember it was deficit neutral and Pelosi said it would create a lot of jobs.

Wigglesworth on May 6, 2013 at 3:29 PM

After his depraved indifference to human life as proven by both “Fast and Furious” and Benghazi, he should by all rights be looking for another job – like in a prison – maybe doing laundry.

VorDaj on May 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Well, at least he’s starting in Texas, where we’re a shining example of how well Obama’s policies of high taxation and spending and budget deficits and onerous regulation and energy starvation can stimulate business growth! Oh, wait… why’s he coming to *the* state that’s most antithetical to his policies – and shows how wrong he is – again?

Midas on May 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Gads to goodness, HOW much is this gonna cost taxpayers for all these campaign stops? I hope Perry does not get near this worthless lying worm bho! Wonder if bho will tell his base here in TX that WE need amnesty for those American’s who won’t do the jobs illegal aliens do? Will bho say that TX was ‘taken’ from mexico and WE need to GIVE it back to them?
L

letget on May 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I’m proud that I moved to Texas last year. I highly encourage others to do so as well.

beatcanvas on May 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Now is the time for all good Conservatives to flee to Texas. Seriously, we’re getting Californicated from the north, and Mexifornicated from the south. If Texas is flipped, it’s game over, folks!

squint on May 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I’ve been in Austin when Al Gore’s motorcade came through. I-35 is the busiest Freeway and it goes right through the middel of town. Back then the airport was located in town on the east side of I-35. Now its south of town on SH71. A presidential motorcade will back up traffic to Waco.

But he’ll find most of our Texas libs in Austin so they’ll be good with it.

DanMan on May 6, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I-35 north at the Colorado River bridge can back up for a mile at 6:30 on a Sunday morning on a holiday weekend. The liberals in Austin may both love him and be the only people in Texas who think hydraulic fracking for oil and gas is an abomination, but even they’ll whine for a while about the presidential motorcade epically screwing up Austin’s traffic in the middle of the weeks (which would be far less of a problem, if the libs running the city and Travis County in the 1970s and 80s hadn’t believed if they built no new highways in the area, they would never have traffic problems).

jon1979 on May 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The laser industry must be booming.

HumpBot Salvation on May 6, 2013 at 3:38 PM

When the ship starts to take on water, it is an awesome spectacle to behold when it just up and sinks. Obama is taking on water and with luck will take the senate with him.

Zomcon JEM on May 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Rooooooaaaaaddddssssss

….bridddgggeesssssssssss

tom daschle concerned on May 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Instead of another campaign, why not present a bill to Congress that helps promote jobs creation?

Oh, that’s right! That would be work, part of the job description of being President.

Never mind…

Liam on May 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I was at the Fredericksburg National Cemetery last weekend, which is part of the Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania National Military Park. 15,543 US soldiers are buried there (15,243 from the Civil War). Only 2,473 of those soldiers were ever identified.

NPS had their lawnmower stolen. Due to budget cuts they can’t afford to buy another one, and they can’t afford to hire somebody to do it. The grass is close to overgrowing the unidentified graves, and is starting to cover those with names. The Ranger doing tours was very apologetic for the condition of the park and cemetery.

My mom said, “I always thought the nice thing about being buried in a National Cemetery is that they’d always take care of your grave. I guess that isn’t true anymore.”

So 15,543 American soldiers’ graves are being overgrown with grass while the President jets around the nation touting his programs. I’m pretty sure that just the fuel cost of that trip would pay to keep those graves looking as they should for the next 20 years or more.

Spade on May 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Surprised he isnt doing this on Wednesday to give the LSM a reason to avoid the Benghazi hearings.

can_con on May 6, 2013 at 3:45 PM

The private sector job market will only improve when Obama loses his job.

Bevan on May 6, 2013 at 3:45 PM

So 15,543 American soldiers’ graves are being overgrown with grass while the President jets around the nation touting his programs. I’m pretty sure that just the fuel cost of that trip would pay to keep those graves looking as they should for the next 20 years or more.

Spade on May 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM

One less Hawaii trip would take care of much of the cost.

CW on May 6, 2013 at 3:46 PM

…..all at a few more companies that will be broke in a couple of years. He’s like the grim reaper when he shows up at your place of business to tout “jobs and investment”.

Tater Salad on May 6, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Why doesn’t bho go to the states where the epa has closed hundreds of coal factories to spew his jobs krap? I would imagine those states would just be thrilled to have bho there?
L

letget on May 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I don’t like this Obama fellow.

losarkos on May 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM

He is like a king. No amount of money spent on him can be too much. However, any resistance to his prolific spending in racist or bitter clingers.

The rules don’t aplly to him and life is cheap. Anthing for more votes and power.

acyl72 on May 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Hilarious that he has to start this thing in Texas.

Here in his home state (the People’s Republic of Illinois):

-unemployment rate 9.5% (second highest in US)
-high gas ($4.30 today by my house)
-high tax
-over-regulation
-ultra-violent urban areas
-horrible (yet expensive) public school system run by union thugs
-people fleeing the state in droves
-etc.

visions on May 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM

So 15,543 American soldiers’ graves are being overgrown with grass while the President jets around the nation touting his programs. I’m pretty sure that just the fuel cost of that trip would pay to keep those graves looking as they should for the next 20 years or more.

Spade on May 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Disgraceful.

Midas on May 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Stay out of Texas.
TX-96 on May 6, 2013 at 3:22 PM

That was my gut reaction, too. He should keep his B.S. in those states and neighborhoods in Illinois that are seeing all the benefits of his past community organizing efforts!

Deafdog on May 6, 2013 at 3:57 PM

“I don’t know what the hell this thing is, but it’s pretty big, and it’s green and white. Wow!”

Ward Cleaver on May 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Obama is flailing…

workingclass artist on May 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

And hey, I wonder if President Obama is going to mention that the mini tech-job boom going on in Texas …

Probably not, since Austin isn’t really in Texas. It’s actually an honorary California city.

KS Rex on May 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

pressure Congress to back… economic measures he outlined in February’s State of the Union address…

Uh, what economic measures would those be, exactly?

Spend more and raise taxes? He’s going to Texas to sell those innovative ideas retreads?

I’m sorry, smartest man in the world, but stupid is as stupid does.

IndieDogg on May 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM

They love him in Austin, but then they’re moonbats (no, not the ones under the Congress Avenue bridge). Anyway, who can afford to live there?

Ward Cleaver on May 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM

…another awesome Obama jobs tour?

Le puke.

petefrt on May 6, 2013 at 4:04 PM

No thanks to you, Chump. Our state government is having to fight your cronies every step of the way to make this a growing economy down here.

michaelo on May 6, 2013 at 4:07 PM

to kick off a new focus on the middle class and economic growth.

Oooohhhh a new focus. Thank goodness. I was afraid this was a pivot…

deepdiver on May 6, 2013 at 4:07 PM

“Hey, I’m getting hammered on this Bengahzi thing on a daily basis”, said Jay Carney.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz piped in, “the House is going to bring those g-d dam witnesses to tetify and there’s nothing me or Nancy can do about it!”

BOB just smiled and said. “I’ve got a three letter word for you two: J-O-B-S!”

NOMOBO on May 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM

The president will be going where there are jobs taking credit for them, simple conclusion. He’s fallen into a hole and he is desperate to getting any kind of credit he can muster. His ego is screaming.

mixplix on May 6, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Wow… Why does he insist on making a spectacle of himself? Doesn’t he realize how stupid this looks?

RESIGN.

Key West Reader on May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Is he going to be on TV more? Man, I am so sick of this man.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Aliens have come to Earth & taken all our intellectuals, because no one can elloquently put into words how Obama & his minions get away with all.

RdLake on May 6, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Obamacare a problem?

The Chief Financial Officer Report (Dow Jones & Company, Inc, by email) for today mentioned another “jobs” problem:

ADP CFO: Health-care changes hit hiring at smaller firms. ADP Chief Financial Officer Jan Siegmund says growth at smaller companies is slowing down because of concerns about coming changes in health-care law, though big companies may not see much of a difference once the law is implemented. “We do see growth in companies, particularly those with slightly less than 50 employees, slowing a bit,” Mr. Siegmund told Emily Chasan in an interview. “There’s a huge amount of confusion about what it means,” he added. In addition to small businesses, industries with high proportions of part-time workers, such as retail and hospitality, are also likely to see big impacts from the law. But for large companies, “most of the changes are coming after 2014,” he said. “We’re in compliance already so for us, as a company, it’s not a major shift.”

IlikedAUH2O on May 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I don’t understand why he can’t kick off his jobs tour in one of the successful liberal cities like Chicago or Detroit or New Orleans…

Oh.

cornbred on May 6, 2013 at 5:03 PM

It gets him away from Michelle for burgers and beers. He certainly doesn’t inspire anyone to create new jobs.

ironked on May 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Travis County folks may give him a golf clap, but the rest of us know the truth…

hillsoftx on May 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM

ED!

You might want to do a post on the latest GDP revision trick devised by the Ministry of Propaganda Burea of Economic Analysis:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-06/latest-contribution-us-gdp-promises-no-really

Sadly, we are not making this up: as part of the BEA’s latest revision to the way it calculates GDP, the government will no longer count the amount of pension funding that is actually allocated to retirement accounts (counted as wages in the GDP calculation): i.e., an actual cash outlay.

Instead, what the Bureau of Economic Analysis will count are corporate promises of how much companies will (may? might?) pay… eventually.

The bigger the lie and the promise, the higher the GDP. And presto.

So all the pension funds that are under-funded – virtually ALL pension plans are currently under-funded thanks to the Fed holding the interest rates near zero and the Fed buying $ 85 billion/month in UST’s and MBS’s to hold the commercial market interest rates down which means the pension plans have not achieved their growth projections …

… and counting Federal, state and local governments this runs into the tens of trillion of dollars over the next decade, the Ministry of Propaganda is now going to parabolic in their ponzi-nomics and outright lying so a GDP of less than 5% will never be reported ever again.

PolAgnostic on May 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM

And while we are griping about this b.s. misinformation tour, our side is doing nothing to counter the message in any effective manner. This is why we lose, we let the left dictate the message, that then gets parroted by every news and talk show on televisions to the mindless masses that believe everything they hear. We don’t need to see boring-voiced folks like Beohner or McConnell drawling on about how we disagree with the president. This is why we lose.

TheLoudTalker on May 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM

He’s going to TEXAS? I think Moonbeam Brown will get upset over that.

In future sorties from the White House, why doesn’t Barry visit some Democratic strongholds. Like Oakland. Or Detroit. Show the rest of the country what happens when Democrats run things.

GarandFan on May 6, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Watch for him to take credit for the Texas job market. I’m sure he’ll point out that Austin/Travis County votes overwhelmingly democrat and he will try to say how they are trendsetters for Texas as the state turns from red to blue (or so he hopes). Oh and I’m sure he will also try to make the case that the large Hispanic population of Texas proves that immigration reform is imperative (never mind that the majority of Hispanics in Texas are native Texans and have been so for generations). Undoubtedly he will be prepared to read all this from his teleprompter with words that will be intended to be a open-handed slap at Gov. Perry and the Texas GOP. But we must all remember that this is not a political trip. I just hope Gov. Perry takes the gloves off during his remarks, if he’s allowed to give any.

lonestarleeroy on May 6, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Who’s excited for another awesome Obama jobs tour?

The only jobs Obama has created on his previous jobs tours has been the one or two guys in charge of his teleprompters.

RJL on May 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM

So Texas is doing everything possible to NOT do what Obama is doing and is having success. Meanwhile, states like Illinois, New York, and California are following the Obama model and failing. So, naturally, Obama decides to promote his failed agenda (yet again) in a state that is relatively prospering… so that he can, um, stifle it?

The balls on That Guy!

AnonymousDrivel on May 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I reckon the “Limbaugh Theorem” is right….the One must never be seen as governing, and always be seen as campaigning.

Very stupid strategy to be out there “campaigning” about all the wonderful jobs he’s creating and how super the economy is. Sooner or later, the spigot of $$$$$$ from the Fed to the stock market is gonna run dry.

olesparkie on May 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM

13,000,000 On SS Disability equals the population of Greece. We bailout a Greece everyday.

Mormontheman on May 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM