Video: Footage shows Hasan in November at … Homeland Security event

posted at 9:11 pm on November 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Even worse: It was a presidential transition event.

Daniel Kaniewski, the institute’s deputy director, confirms that Hasan attended task force meetings as an audience member, and stresses that he was not a member of the task force. “All of our events are open to the public,” Kaniewski says, “and when someone RSVPs we put their name in the [report] so everyone knows who was in the room.” He says institute staffers recall Hasan attending at least one task force event, and that he RSVP’d for several. “We do recall him speaking at one of our events as an audience member,” he says, “but none of us recall what he actually said. Generally, our events are attended by people in the homeland security community, and Hasan had a very legitimate reason to be there.

Like Rob Port says, this isn’t an issue with The One, who couldn’t have known, but an issue with the military’s procedures for dealing with troubled soldiers. Ed asked the million-dollar question earlier today but Ann Althouse takes it a step further:

How was it that the military trained and employed this man in psychiatry and did not perceive his deep problems? I think that part of psychiatric training involves subjecting the would-be psychiatrist to psychological analysis. Why did this man slip through the system? His job was to treat others, in an environment full of experts in the field of psychiatry. Why did he remain an insider if he was the sort of person who could do what he eventually did? These are serious questions, not adequately answered by the idea that people “snap.”

I want to know why what was wrong with Hasan was not detected? Was he given a pass because he was Muslim? Is there a fear of suspecting or offending Muslims in the military that keeps people who should see signs of dysfunction from acknowledging what they see or doing anything about it? On the other hand, if it really is the case that people in the military are harassing Muslims, that too should not be ignored. There should be rigorous equality for Muslims. It shouldn’t even be necessary to point out what is obvious: Muslims in the military shouldn’t experience special treatment either of a positive or a negative kind.

It may be just as likely that they looked the other way because Hasan’s a doctor, something the military always needs more of, especially with troops returning from combat and desperate for PTSD counseling. Or it may be that they humored him because he had alleged harassment by other soldiers and they feared a discrimination lawsuit if they tried to get rid of him. This, I think, is going to be where this story has legs: How exactly did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags? Stay tuned.


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This guy is a terrorist. Period. His acts yesterday were acts of terror and further proof that Islam is our enemy. Those who completely follow the Quran, are like this loser. They seek to kill those who dont believe.

bucsox79 on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Simple answer, he is moslem therefore he was untouchable.

UncleZeb on November 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM

P.S. I cant spell LOL.

UncleZeb on November 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I guess this moron was hoping for czar of homeland security?

Obama is such a great source of judgement.

Hening on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

How, exactly, did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags?

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How exactly did Obama become president when his resume is virtually non-existent, except for some lefty anti-American stuff?
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

How was it that the military trained and employed this man in psychiatry and did not perceive his deep problems?

Heh. Little does she know, she got it exactly right in yet another way. Those who follow Islam have “deep problems.”

Gregor on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

How was it that the military trained and employed this man in psychiatry and did not perceive his deep problems? I think that part of psychiatric training involves subjecting the would-be psychiatrist to psychological analysis. Why did this man slip through the system? His job was to treat others, in an environment full of experts in the field of psychiatry. Why did he remain an insider if he was the sort of person who could do what he eventually did? These are serious questions, not adequately answered by the idea that people “snap.”

We’re talking about a profession which has offered two opinions on whether homosexuality is normal or a disorder.

Given the politics behind that decision, one can obviously see other politics behind this.

I for one think psychiatry is quackery.

unclesmrgol on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Have Koran Will Murder reads the card of the devote Muslim man
A follower of Mohammad in a world he want’s to turn into a vast wasteland

His vile mouth heeds the calling of a Koranic wind
A man without a shred of decency is Mohammad’s disciple called Hasadin

Hasadin, Hasadin, Where do you roam?
Hasadin, Hasadin, Just be sure to never leave your guidebook the Koran at home

He travels on to hate and murder whenever he feels he must
His yearning to please Allah is his guiding lust

These are facts that need no spin
Of Mohammad’s devoted follower
Of his disciple called Hasadin

Hasadin, Hasadin, Where do you roam?
Hasadin, Hasadin, Just be sure to never leave your guidebook the Koran at home

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM

There should be rigorous equality for Muslims. It shouldn’t even be necessary to point out what is obvious: Muslims in the military shouldn’t experience special treatment either of a positive or a negative kind.

Not according to Muslims.

OldEnglish on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM

It may be just as likely that they looked the other way because Hasan’s a doctor Muslim, something the military always needs more of,

FIFY?

artist on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Why was this man never kicked out of the military in the first place!??
He saw himself as a Muslim first??? American second?? And yet he was an officer in the army????
Perfect freaking example of how destructive political correctness is!! PC kills!!
Liberal policies kill people!

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Someone should ask Janet Napolitano if Hasan helped write the DHS warning about right-wing militia groups.

mad saint jack on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM

I knew it. Typical deranged anti American Obama voter. Blame MSNBC. Blame political correctness. Blame pussyfooting around Muslims who have had 8 years to self correct the sociopathic impulses in their belief system.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.
- Ralph Peters

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM

This guy is a terrorist. Period. His acts yesterday were acts of terror and further proof that Islam is our enemy. Those who completely follow the Quran, are like this loser. They seek to kill those who dont believe.

bucsox79 on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

With out a doubt.

But we should wait till the MSM dismisses it formally and CAIR accuses everyone of racism and Chris Matthews leg stop tingling

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Hasan’s problems went back to 9/11. How many Iraq/Afghanistan war stories had he heard as of that date? None.

Ronnie on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM

You don’t think the Army isn’t under any orders to ignore this?

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Unemployment 10%

10-20 thousand unhappy voters on the steps of the White House

Facts leaking out about Cap and Trade and Health Care Bill.

Axie to Rahmie we need an uber distraction….activate Ft. Hood

nondhimmie on November 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM

You don’t think the Army isn’t under any orders to ignore this?

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

U.S. Army officers take their oath to the U.S. Constitution, not Bush nor Obama.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM

U.S. Army officers take their oath to the U.S. Constitution, not Bush nor Obama.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Maybe so, but not to political correctness.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Political correctness does not “even out” any playing field!
Political correctness is designed to destroy the playing field!
It does not right any wrongs nor does it institute any fairness. It is in fact an attack on fairness and equality!
It’s soul purpose is to erase the fairness that actually is/was in the American system of government and our culture to redesign and create a new system that is unfair by being partial towards idiots, morons, certain races, criminals, terrorists and the insane!

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM

It may be just as likely that they looked the other way because Hasan’s a doctor, something the military always needs more of, especially with troops returning from combat and desperate for PTSD counseling. Or it may be that they humored him because he had alleged harassment by other soldiers and they feared a discrimination lawsuit if they tried to get rid of him. This, I think, is going to be where this story has legs: How exactly did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags?

How was he in any better or worse position to gun down 43 people than any of us? The red flags should have kept him from the care of patients first, and should have warranted a search upon entering post at a minimum (if it is true that he was being “watched” for the six mos prior to this).

ted c on November 6, 2009 at 9:27 PM

“Why did this man slip through the system?”

He didn’t…

He passed with flying colors all the way through the Politically Correct system.

Happy…?

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Maybe when enough people die due to political correctness
people will start believing in common sense again

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Barry pals with another terrorist.

Seriously, I want to know why are all these disturbed people attracted to Barry like moths to a flame?

Something about this doesn’t smell right. This guy moved through progressive circles and progressives are known for attracting troubled people(pedophiles, delinquents, terrorists) and use them for their own purposes.

Since the media immediately spun this as an anti-war radical, are the progressives taking their anti-war agenda further? Making sure terrorist acts become the norm, not just demonstrations and internal subversion?

promachus on November 6, 2009 at 9:30 PM

All blogs that support the troops should bring all manner of Hell onto those officers in the maggot’s chain of command who let this happen. Maybe then in the future others would be encouraged to support the troops rather than be PC Muslim dhimmis.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Has any Muslim country come forward to condemn the actions of Hasan (he was a member of their religion of peace)?

Has any Muslim country offered condolences to the family members of the slain soldiers?

Didn’t think so.

Probably a lot of fist pumping going on behind the scenes.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Probably a lot of fist pumping going on behind the scenes.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Not a good time to be a goat or a young girl or boy.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Imagine for a moment if all the circumstances were the same except for the following,,,, his name was Joe, he was a pentecostal chaplain who loved Bush, was an NRA member, organized tea parties, video was just released of him at a Sarah Palin event in Alaska before committing his murders at an abortion clinic while yelling God hates Islam and homosexuals!
What would Dr. Phil and Obama say then?

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

We know he was being watched, but there had to be an element of “If we bust someone this reputable and we’re wrong, we’re never going to be taken seriously again.”

The boy who cried wolf x 1000. And the thousand might be millions.

Tanya on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

It may be just as likely that they looked the other way because Hasan’s a doctor, something the military always needs more of, especially with troops returning from combat and desperate for PTSD counseling. Or it may be that they humored him because he had alleged harassment by other soldiers and they feared a discrimination lawsuit if they tried to get rid of him.

Perhaps, perhaps. Does it matter? Well, it should be looked into, but what should be looked into more was who didn’t act when they should have and how should they be punished?

This, I think, is going to be where this story has legs: How exactly did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags? Stay tuned.

Yes, this should be interesting…

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM

What would Dr. Phil and Obama say then?

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Let’s wait for more evidence This is what happens when people listen to Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Maybe when enough people die due to political correctness
people will start believing in common sense again

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I think most people do believe in common sense… It’s our pols (on both sides of the aisle) that push the PCbull down our throats.

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM

We know he was being watched, but there had to be an element of “If we bust someone this reputable and we’re wrong, we’re never going to be taken seriously again.”

The boy who cried wolf x 1000. And the thousand might be millions.

Tanya on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

If only that had been the person in charge of writing the “rightwing extremist memo”

Nope… Patriot Act was worthless here…

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:43 PM

bucsox79 on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Lets not jump to conclusions. Didnt you hear ED MORRISSEY. Obama’s “right”.

IMO, we’ve been infiltrated and it is deep and its wide! Recently we’ve seen it in the miltary, the FBI. We’re so complacent.

Back to pre-9/11 mentality. Just what they’ve waited for. Not that I’m jumping conclusions or anything, just seems that way. But I’ll wait to pass judgment til I look out my Baltimore window and see a mushroom cloud over DC.

OSUBuciz1 on November 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Thanks for the posts and updates on this whole event, AP. Your comments have been pitch perfect.

Spirit of 1776 on November 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM

I’D LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS…

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM

The War on Man-caused disasters

John the Libertarian on November 6, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Read “Infiltration” … a very prophetic book.

Tony737 on November 6, 2009 at 9:45 PM

The War on Man-caused disasters

John the Libertarian on November 6, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Someone call Goracle!

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

I think most people do believe in common sense… It’s our pols (on both sides of the aisle) that push the PCbull down our throats.

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Agreed, but as long as we keep voting these people into office, nothing gonna change except the size of the graveyards.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Israeli Ambassador was speaking…

discussing

..Israeli Palistinian conflict in regards to the Gaza strip
…..International terrorism in Israel

MSNBC commentator:

“this is an issue that he would have been interested in”
“something that was a very important issue for him”

How can the narrative be that his religion had nothing to do with it but this MSNBC quest states how important the Israeli conflict is to him especially in regards to the Gaza strip.
I know his parents were Palestinian but the wars we are conducting are in Iraq/Afghanistan.

How can this be such an important issue for him but not important enough to do what thousands of muslims have and are doing and that is killing in the name of Islam.

Every bit of information concerning Hasan indicates he was a devoted muslim that felt suicide bombings and beheadings were justified in the name of Islam.
There has been not even a trickle of evidence that he killed for any other reason yet we are supposed to believe that his religion had nothing to do with it.

Don’t believe your lying eyes.

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Imagine for a moment if all the circumstances were the same except for the following,,,, his name was Joe, he was a pentecostal chaplain who loved Bush, was an NRA member, organized tea parties, video was just released of him at a Sarah Palin event in Alaska before committing his murders at an abortion clinic while yelling God hates Islam and homosexuals!

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Most extremist don’t have such views or such political affiliation.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM

excuse me, i’d like to give a shout out…

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Was he given a pass because he was Muslim?

How could anyone even think such a thing? How retrograde. How racist.

Jim Treacher on November 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM

I don’t blame the US Army…

… I blame the bureaucrats appointed by our political leaders that tie their hands with political correctness and makes it impossible to defend themselves from even enemies within their ranks.

These are the people that should be sought out and prosecuted!

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM

How exactly did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags? Stay tuned.

Because Janet was too busy looking at the guys this F’er was supposed to be helping!!!!

Caper29 on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM

will all of you shut the hell up about this horrible tradgedy for a minute or two while i give some shout outs… jesus!

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:54 PM

nondhimmie on November 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM

It makes you wonder.

ORconservative on November 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM

… I blame the bureaucrats appointed by our political leaders that tie their hands with political correctness and makes it impossible to defend themselves from even enemies within their ranks.

These are the people that should be sought out and prosecuted!

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Those people are unnredeemable and probably untouchable. Those in the maggot’s chain of command may be redeemable if hit over the head hard enough.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 9:56 PM

These are the people that should be sought out and prosecuted!

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM

They are the source of the problem without a doubt.

The Army does take its direction from these people, else they loose their commission.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:58 PM

I like this twitter post:

“My daugther got the swine flu vaccine but my 7 year old son is still “too old”…. yet i bet he is younger than gitmo f*ers.”

How true, how true…

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM

The Army does take its direction from these people, else they loose their commission.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Better to lose one’s commission than one’s soul.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Excellent points.

Del Dolemonte on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

this isn’t an issue with The One

And here I thought these two guys shared much of the same ideology when it came to that whole “war of choice” thing. Don’t tell me that guy wasn’t at that meeting looking for a little hopenchange.

Ronnie on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

“My daugther got the swine flu vaccine but my 7 year old son is still “too old”…. yet i bet he is younger than gitmo f*ers.”

How true, how true…

MeatHeadinCA on November 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Probably younger than those at Goldman Sacks too.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Better to lose one’s commission than one’s soul.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Matthew Hoh

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Political correctness? How about a second look at that HATE CRIMES bill or has it become the law of the land & more incidents now will arise because we were afraid to upset somebodies apple cart. All this PC & spin will do us in.

Americannodash on November 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

From an E-mail to Diana West:

I just watched the latest military press briefing. The Commanding Officer adamantly refused to discuss anything about Major Hassan, the shooter, and I did not hear one question from the press corps inquiring if Major Hassan’s Muslim faith, jihad or Islam could have had anything to do with this act.

More than that, there was not a question about how on God’s Earth the C.O. can believe he can guarantee the safety of his non-Muslim troops from further acts like this.

It was almost comical, were it not so tragic, to listen to the questions and answers about the timeline, the location of the shootings, the responding units, the facility layout, the graduation ceremony closeby, the coming deployment of the troops, the firearms Hassan had at his disposal, the base security now being ramped up, and anything else but the “I” word.

For we must not say it aloud. We must not whisper it. We must not think it, for if we do then we must confront the all too horrible thought that perhaps we are at war with the entire World of Islam – and that is unthinkable. So, the denial of the elephant in the room goes on.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Daniel Kaniewski, the institute’s deputy director, confirms that Hasan attended task force meetings as an audience member, and stresses that he was not a member of the task force.


Wait a second. Not a member?
How about THIS?
?????
AND THIS?

(page32 of PDF)

LegendHasIt on November 6, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Better to lose one’s commission than one’s soul.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Matthew Hoh

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

I saw that too

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Oh, Wait….

“…when someone RSVPs we put their name in the [report] so everyone knows who was in the room.”

Nice cover, Daniel.

*I’m now officially embarrassed*
Sorry

LegendHasIt on November 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Get used to it people…the killers are the only victims now. The real responsibility lies with the people who didn’t get out of the way of the bullets.

milwife88 on November 6, 2009 at 10:14 PM

This, I think, is going to be where this story has legs: How exactly did this guy end up in a position to gun down 43 people when his file was teeming with red flags? Stay tuned.

Political. Correctness.

End of story.

Hawkins1701 on November 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

People are missing the fact that he wasn’t suffering from ‘mental illness’ in the true sence. He was suffering from a murderous ideology.

It’s the Islam stupid.

- The Cat

MirCat on November 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM

I for one think psychiatry is quackery.

unclesmrgol on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I think that is a little harsh. It is a ‘soft’ science where there is a lot of conjecture and not much in the way of reproducible results. The stuff that makes them a Doctor, IMHO, is the hard info behind brain chemistry. Bipolars and Schizos can definitely be helped with proper dosages of brain modifying drugs. (NO slur intended on people with these diseases).

It doesn’t mean that they can solve all the mental problems out there. That said, this jihadist suffered from just one disorder — radical Islamic indoctrination. If that is a disorder, around 100 million muslims are suffering from it.

GnuBreed on November 6, 2009 at 10:37 PM

So who was he getting harassed by? Are we to believe that it was people the same or higher rank as him? I can’t imagine how anyone below the rank of major could get away with it.

thevastlane on November 6, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Excellent points.

Del Dolemonte on November 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Thanks,
The spin on this tragedy by the press is incredibly ignorant.

This is a good example of the 9/10 mentality that we are dealing with right now.

Our intelligence and security officials busted a muslim radical that received training in al-qaeda camps in Pakistan.
They apparently wanted to blow up mass transit systems:


NYC Terror Plot Suspect Zazi Contacted by Al Qaeda’s Afghan Head

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566222,00.html

NEW YORK — The airport shuttle driver accused of plotting a bombing in New York had contacts with Al Qaeda that went nearly all the way to the top, to an Usama bin Laden confidant believed to be the terrorist group’s leader in Afghanistan, U.S. intelligence officials told The Associated Press.

Al-Yazid’s contact with Zazi indicates that Al Qaeda leadership took an intense interest in what U.S. officials have called one of the most serious terrorism threats crafted on U.S. soil since the 9/11 attacks.

U.S. intelligence officials and prosecutors have said that Zazi was recruited and trained by Al Qaeda. They say he and others traveled last year to Pakistan to receive the training.

Prosecutors say Zazi, during meetings with federal investigators before his arrest last month, “admitted that he received instructions from Al Qaeda operatives on subjects such as weapons and explosives” during his trip to Pakistan.



What type of reaction do we get from the “moderate muslim community”…..


….press conferences condemning the extremist practices of radical muslims….NO.


……Protest in the streets condemning the actions of muslim jihadist who are planning major attacks against American citizens…..NO.


……Muslim groups coming to the forefront to help authorities track down and eliminate the radical elements of Islam they claim do not represent them….NO.

This is what we get:

Muslim New Yorkers Protest Alleged Racial Profiling
http://freedetainees.org/7116

By: NY1 News

Muslim New Yorkers and civil rights advocates took to the streets in Queens Saturday to protest alleged racial profiling by law enforcement.

Citing recent raids and increased surveillance of their communities, they rallied against what they call unfair targeting of Muslims.

The nonprofit group Desis Rising Up and Moving organized the protest outside the Flushing Public Library.

“An entire community and people and religion should not be profiled or characterized as terrorists because of certain investigations,” said DRUM Executive Director Monami Maulik. “We understand that investigations should happen but they should happen in a manner that’s lawful and respects people’s dignity and due process rights.”

Naiz Khan, seen above, a Muslim Queens resident, said he was placed under FBI surveillance after befriending Najibullah Zazi, an Afghan immigrant accused of plotting a terror attack here in the city.


It will go a long way in establishing the credibility of the “moderate muslim” if they would start condemning and protesting against the muslim extremist instead of the people that are busting their a$$’s in trying to stop them.

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Hasan’s actions reveal him to be a terrorist.

He’s planned his murderous rampage, he’s been studying the how-to’s and when and wheres, he’s been “arguing with patients” (military personnel returned from active duty in Iraq, mostly) about their military goals, deployments and mission/s.

Quite obviously, for whatever the reasons are that have allowed him to scrape past being booted from the military (probably more to do with him being Muslim than him not being Muslim, and, that the military has invested a great deal of resources into his academic education and training, and, that his profession is sorely needed in the military — medicine, specifically, physicians), whatever the specifics are as to how and why he managed to scrape past finer examination by superiors, he’s quite clearly a man who went about engaging in terrorist actions.

For all those (leftwing media, specifically, and other leftwing predictable pinheads who routinely appear in media at times like this, defending the perpetrators and chastising America in general) who question this definition of Hasan, let me make it clear here that it was Hasan who defined himself that way.

Lourdes on November 6, 2009 at 10:53 PM

This is a man who had deep conversations with returning soldiers. I wonder how many battle strategies he may have found out about? How much influence he might have had on some to make their problems worse. Someone with a lot of red flags around him, should not have been speaking to our returning heroes.
Our soldiers deserve the best of care by certified doctors who have the soldiers and our Country’s best interest in mind.

Hobbes on November 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

This is a man who had deep conversations with returning soldiers.

Hobbes on November 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

That’s an excellent point. It’s hard enough for our men and women returning home to admit they need some help adjusting.

If the military has no better quality control over its psychiatric staff than this, it’s no wonder most of the vets say “no thanks” and try to handle it on their own.

notropis on November 6, 2009 at 11:31 PM

unclesmrgol on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

You have been warned about using logic.

Johan Klaus on November 6, 2009 at 11:51 PM

How can the narrative be that his religion had nothing to do with it but this MSNBC quest states how important the Israeli conflict is to him especially in regards to the Gaza strip.

I know his parents were Palestinian but the wars we are conducting are in Iraq/Afghanistan.

How can this be such an important issue for him but not important enough to do what thousands of muslims have and are doing and that is killing in the name of Islam.

Every bit of information concerning Hasan indicates he was a devoted muslim that felt suicide bombings and beheadings were justified in the name of Islam.

There has been not even a trickle of evidence that he killed for any other reason yet we are supposed to believe that his religion had nothing to do with it.

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Because those things are all part of the Democratic platform?

LibTired on November 7, 2009 at 12:03 AM

I want to know why what was wrong with Hasan was not detected?

I want to know why what was wrong with Obama was not detected.

There should be rigorous equality for Muslims.

All cultures are not equal.

It shouldn’t even be necessary to point out what is obvious: Muslims in the military shouldn’t experience special treatment either of a positive or a negative kind.

The assumption / misunderstanding is Muslims hold reciprocal beliefs toward others.

AZ_Redneck on November 7, 2009 at 12:18 AM

I posted about this here… not the video, but his involvement

Ugly on November 7, 2009 at 12:19 AM

… the “moderate muslim community”…..

They live with the unicorns.

AZ_Redneck on November 7, 2009 at 12:19 AM

How was it that the military trained and employed this man in psychiatry and did not perceive his deep problems?

It not Hasan that has deep problems. The deep problems are with people who want to force this “deep problems” framework where it makes no sense. When an Orthodox Jew turns down an invitation to a pork barbecue, we don’t start talking about “deep problems”. We just think about the dietary rules of his religion. It’s just the same with muslims who murder. They are just following their religion.

Let’s not fall into the fantasy that all religions are good. Japanese Shintoism showed some bad tendencies in World War II and before. Aztec religion had some real negatives–at least if you happen to oppose cutting a large number of people’s hearts of their breast and drinking the blood.

thuja on November 7, 2009 at 12:24 AM

The moderate muslim community was cheering quietly at home for the brave martyr wannabe.

Mojave Mark on November 7, 2009 at 12:24 AM

So, the denial of the elephant unicorn in the room goes on.

MB4 on November 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Johan Klaus on November 7, 2009 at 12:31 AM

I hear the Major is paralyzed from the neck down and may not emerge from a coma. Saves asking him any awkward or sensitive questions. Must be relief all around.

BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 12:37 AM

You should get used to this sort of …unpleasantness. You have a thorough inoculation of Islam at every level of the nation. You cannot remove them now. You will have to adapt to your new partners in America.

BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 12:46 AM

CAIR will be swooping in to offer Sensitivity Training to the Military in 5-4-3-2…..

Ladywolfnl on November 7, 2009 at 1:17 AM

Looks like a lot more CHL will be being applied for; and more of us will use those licenses on a daily basis.

michaelo on November 7, 2009 at 2:14 AM

Look and wonder no further…

http://thereligionofpeace.com

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SilverStar830 on November 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM

Excepting your anonymous troglodytes who the fudge is going to harass a Major? Where is that going to get anybody of inferior rank? It would cook the careers of any of his superiors if the harassment could be seen to have any credibility whatsoever.
Nowadays it is very uncommon for a psychiatrist to have treatment sessions with any of their patients on a one to one basis. A shrink might lead group sessions but there has been a pronounced move away seeing individual patients for hour sessions. Intake interviews for new clients are that long and might require multiple seesions but most psychiatrists are involved in psychopharmacological consultations where they prescribe and monitor medicines meant to further their treatment.

thegreatbeast on November 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM

Now, now, now. Ed says we must not jump to conclusions. Just because he is a Muslim and was killing Americans, there is no conclusion we can possibly draw from that. We must wait until all the the facts are in and carefully consider what CAIR says, as well.

tballard on November 7, 2009 at 2:41 AM

Sorry, forgot the /sarc tag. I figured it was obvious, but you never can tell.

tballard on November 7, 2009 at 2:42 AM

A man with three Muslim names commits an atrocity.

What kind of atrocities will our President with three Muslim names commit?

Stepan on November 7, 2009 at 4:54 AM

How exactly did Obama become president when his resume is virtually non-existent, except for some lefty anti-American stuff?
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

The truth hurts repugs ears.

President McCain Obama rules.

Deal with it.

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 5:02 AM

A man with three Muslim names commits an atrocity.

What kind of atrocities will our President with three Muslim names commit?

Stepan on November 7, 2009 at 4:54 AM

Barack = lightning.

Ehud Barak might disagree he has a muslim name. And as used by Kenyans means blessed.

Hussein = muslim name.

Obama = Kenyan name.

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 5:31 AM

Stepan on November 7, 2009 at 4:54 AM

You are in good form today

nyx on November 7, 2009 at 5:51 AM

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 5:31 AM

Barack is an Arabic name for lightning. Hussein is an Arabic name for handsome. Both Barack and Hussein can be common muslim names. Barack and Barak sound similar became Hebrew and Arabic are semetic language and thus overlap a whole lot. Two of the three names he has are clearly muslim. Obama, being a Kenyan name can be either muslim or nonmuslim.

nyx on November 7, 2009 at 5:55 AM

Major Insane is not a victim. This guy has been in for a while. When did he start to post these radical Muslim view points? This had to be on someones radar screen it seems. Typical behavior of suicide, giving away personal things.
Looks like no one wanted to risk discrimination or harassment of Major Insane. His peers should have caught this. But then again I never heard of one psychiatrist turning on another; they want to handle it quietly. The Major Insane had the perfect cover to talk about what is inside a Radical Muslims head. Many I suspect thought his talk was just that; giving the other side perspective or Psychology, and dismissed it as not his view point. If true that he was disciplined for arguing with his patiences about the war, then its a different story, and some one needs to be held accountable, as well as the good Major Doctor Insane. If a Psychiatrist can do this, then we are looking at the copy cats to increase. Major Doctor Insane has legitimized this for many more would be Terrorist Horrorist.

Ed Laskie on November 7, 2009 at 5:56 AM

Major Insane will be found not guilty or pardon by Obama, so that he can become the new Czar for public mental health.
Maybe not, but he is a hero to many, including Bin, who I bet considers him a Major in his service.
Horrorists are out to destroy Civilization and remake it into Islam. They want to clean the Earth of infidels and have peace so that nothing disturbs then from worshiping God. A Muslim crusade. One way! If they get the Bomb, they will use it. If they can cause an EMP over USA, then we will be thrown into the stone age.
I would say that the Horrorists are winning, sorry to say. Many are converting to Islam. They have time on their side. The American public and specifically this administration hasten to fortitude to fight the war on Horror. The Horrorist are calling for a truce, because they are hurting and need to regroup. Barry will fall for that hook line and sinker. A call for truce will give Obama out he needs. I believe Obama is reaching out to them right now. Obama will win the war on Terror, but the Horror will continue.

Ed Laskie on November 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM

Blame PC. END PC. PC enables Islamic jihadists who have permeated their way into the US Military as saboteurs. Hasan was not the first jihadist in our Military. Connect the dots, Mr. President. –The Army Colonel who formerly commanded at Ft. Hood, now running for Congress from FLA, interviewed with Michael Savage.

maverick muse on November 7, 2009 at 7:35 AM

This guy is a terrorist. Period. His acts yesterday were acts of terror and further proof that Islam is our enemy. Those who completely follow the Quran, are like this loser. They seek to kill those who dont believe.

bucsox79 on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

My sentiment exactly. His having gone on a murder spree had nothing to do with his imminent deployment to Afghanistan, but EVERYTHING to do with his being a devout Muslim.

A devout Muslim to me means only one thing: a past/future murderer of those who are not Muslims.

mz.josephine on November 7, 2009 at 7:36 AM

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