Pelosi to House caucus: You can’t go home again

posted at 10:55 am on November 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Byron York and the Washington Post agree on Nancy Pelosi’s plan to vote on her health-care bill this Saturday — she can’t afford to let Democrats go home to their districts before the vote.  In fact, as John McCormack notes, she can’t even afford to keep her promise to have the bill on line for 72 hours before the vote so that their constituents can know what they’re doing.  If they went home to face their constituents, Pelosi knows that they would never vote for her massive spending:

Although confident of victory, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and other Democratic leaders were working to limit defections to the roughly 25 Democrats viewed as “hard no” votes. There will be 258 Democrats in the House by the time the vote takes place, but to secure the 218 votes needed for passage — and with prospects dim for Republican converts — Pelosi can afford to lose no more than 40 members of her caucus. President Obama had been slated to head to the Hill on Friday to push wavering Democrats to get behind the measure, but he called off the trip after Thursday’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Tex.

For party leaders, setting a weekend deadline for passage represented a calculated risk, one that could backfire if the vote — now expected late Saturday or Sunday — fails or must be delayed. But they feared that if members were given more time to consider the legislation, new issues could arise, particularly as lawmakers digest the results from Tuesday’s elections. Most ominous for Democrats were their losses in gubernatorial contests in New Jersey and Virginia, although the party did prevail in House special elections in New York and California.

York says this puts the Democrats in a very difficult position:

The House is in the final rush toward passage of a national health care bill, and there’s one thing Speaker Nancy Pelosi absolutely, positively does not want her Democratic lawmakers to do: Go home.

“You meet constituents and get an earful from them — that’s the last thing she wants,” says a key House Republican aide. “If you were a Democrat, and you went home last weekend and were asked about the health care bill, you could say, ‘I’m still looking at it.’ Well, now you’ve had it for a week, the vote is any day now. What are you going to say?” Better just to stay in Washington and avoid potentially uncomfortable scenes. …

There are dozens of Democrats representing districts where a majority of voters have serious misgivings about national health care. And yet many will end up voting for their party’s bill. Why?

“The thing that Pelosi has going for her right now is that a lot of her members are more afraid of her than they are of their constituents,” says the GOP insider. He notes that Pelosi has plenty of weapons to make life miserable for members who cross her — “any benefits the member can have for the remainder of this Congress, the kind of support they’ll have going into next year’s election, and if they lose, what kind of post-Congress opportunities they will have.” All could be endangered by a vote against the health care bill.

So either they have to face down their constituents or their Speaker.  It says something about the power of Congress that a lawmaker fears a party boss more than the people who elected him or her.  Somehow, I’m sure that’s not what the founders had in mind for a citizen legislature and the people’s branch of government.

The solution for this is to have citizens call the offices of these Representatives and remind them who’s boss.

According to the latest news, the vote may now get pushed to Sunday.  That has more to do with the number of amendments offered on the bill and the expected debate on each than a fade from Pelosi on her whip counts.  However, as the Post reports, she has to hold the number of defections down to less than 40, and that assumes her entire caucus shows up this weekend.  Any more, and the bill will almost certainly fail and present Pelosi with a debacle on her number-one priority on the agenda.

Until now, we’ve assumed that Pelosi scheduled the vote because she knows she can get to 218.  Maybe she’s scheduling it now because this weekend will be the closest she can get to 218 — and hopes that her caucus doesn’t answer the phone or read the mail until Monday.

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Incompetent wh@re…….

JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Anybody have a list of the 40 wavering Dems?

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I find it fascinating she twists — and breaks — so many arms when this turkey will never make it through the Senate.

John the Libertarian on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Man the phones!

ElectricPhase on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

It says something about the power of Congress that a lawmaker fears a party boss more than the people who elected him or her.

pretty sad fact…

cmsinaz on November 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Anybody have a list of the 40 wavering Dems?

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Dick Morris said there are some 80 House Dems and 20 Senate Dems from red states that are, as A.P. put it politely, breathing into paper bags right now.

John the Libertarian on November 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Representative republic at it’s finest hour.

Anybody know one thing that makes healthcare better for anyone who currently has healthcare? Isn’t that how liberals work, equal misery for all?

Going to be a bad outcome for nanny Peloser.

tarpon on November 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM

With 10% unemployment and a crashing economy. Do it. Do it now, and kiss your azzes goodbye.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Melt the phones! Call your representative!

gwelf on November 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I just called the dear leader’s office and they told me that the bill IS on line and has been since last Thursday.

Anyone know if that is true?

stenwin77 on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Pelosi…. what can you say?

whiskeytango on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

If this passes this really is going to suck! I know my congresscritter won’t vote for it. One of the few (R) from WI. Man this is scary times we are in.

Brat4life on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

If this passes this really is going to suck! I know my congresscritter won’t vote for it. One of the few (R) from WI. Man this is scary times we are in.

Brat4life on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Who is your congressman? Mine is Paul Ryan.

kcarpenter on November 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

My idiot Dem congress-organism (I’m no specist!), Brad Miller (NC-13) is in the tank with Pelosi… but I’m gonna contact his office anyway.

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Hey ED do you know when on Sunday the vote is going to take place. Is Scary Botox going to have the cameras on or off during this vote?

Brat4life on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

See, it just can’t be about firing them in 2010. They need to know that we will make their “retirement” a living hell where they live. We will torture these people who betray us, in restaurants, stores, malls, movies, walking their dogs, etc. They are sinking our childrens’ future and they will pay socially for years. It’s not just “you’re fired”. It’s “you’re a pariah here in our town”.

marklmail on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

It says something about the power of Congress that a lawmaker fears a party boss more than the people who elected him or her.

Really – do they actually think that she’s more of a threat than getting tossed out of their job by their constituents?

Grow a set, morons, and say no to that dried up puss.

tru2tx on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

My congresswoman is Michele Bachman.

Eat your hearts out.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Any news on Stupak and the 40 pro-life Ds he’s got to block the bill if abortion funding doesn’t get axed from it?

TXUS on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

kcarpenter on November 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Ryan is mine as well. I can only call and email him since we live out of state.

Brat4life on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The solution for this is to have citizens call the offices of these Representatives and remind them who’s boss.

House Members Telephone Directory here.

Write Your Representative here.

Loxodonta on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Kill the Bill!

vapig on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The most ethical congress ever to undermine every facet of decent governance brought to you by Nancy Pelosi.

fourdeucer on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Better just to stay in Washington and avoid potentially uncomfortable scenes. …

So that is what they are calling democracy these days.

sammypants on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Members of Congress need to figure out if they are representatives of their party or representatives of their constituents.

crosspatch on November 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Can’t you at least put up a picture of Sarah Palin and label it “Not Nancy Pelosi” just for general purposes – or something.

perroviejo on November 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

FOXNEWS reported this morning that the vote is SUNDAY now.

Guess that they dont want to give ammo to the Sunday shows.

OSUBuciz1 on November 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Nanzi is forcing these Dems to walk the plank for her.

d1carter on November 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

See, it just can’t be about firing them in 2010

No, it’s about firing at them in 2010 if necessary……

JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Hey, let’s vote to force taxpayers to fund abortions on – wait for it – SUNDAY!

marklmail on November 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Insane Tyrant B*tch

deedtrader on November 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Can’t you just get them all in there, and then pour a concrete sarcophagus over the whole damn building? It worked at Chernobyl.

OldEnglish on November 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

You know you have really strong legislation when you can’t afford to let your own party read it, otherwise you risk losing their votes.

Daggett on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Who the hell, and why the hell, would anyone be afraid of Nancy Pelosi? I’d tell her where to stick her bill.

txag92 on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Pelosi is a natural disaster.

This Bill could destroy our country as we know it.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

@JoeinTX: If it were Harry Reid, would you be calling him an incompetent d@ck? An incompetent bastard? An incompetent pimp?

Howsabout you use actual criticisms, and not sexist remarks, to slam Pelosi? There are plenty of really good insults that don’t comment on her sexual proclivities.

Meryl Yourish on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

I’m confused. Obama was indigent about abortion being covered in “his” reform. In his televised speech to Congress he said:

And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up: under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.

Now, there’s a bill which doesn’t do a good job hiding it’s funding for abortions. Yet, he’s pulling out all of the stops to get it passed. Where’s the outrage?

mid_aged_man on November 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

My Congressman is Gerry Connolly has the answer – don’t meet with the constituents. You’ll only rile up the ones who don’t appreciate being ruled by their betters.

Had the opportunity to shake hand with this gutless turd a couple of weeks age, which I did because I was representing the organization putting the event on. Before he was through greeting the next person, I pulled out the hand sanitizer, used it, and offered it to everyone around. They all used it enthusiastically. Public health, you know.

Filecchio on November 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

My Communist didn’t even have “Health Care” in his drop-down “Issues” menu for my email. I know he’s a leftist so I just wrote:

Don’t vote for that monstrosity of a health care bill Rep. Pelosi is trying to ram through the House. That would be one affirmative vote I’ll never forgive or forget.

Meh. He’s a Pelosi lap dog, but maybe he’ll get enough contacts to think about his vote… I can dream.

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I still don’t get it? How are they going to get this through the Senate?

My understanding was their game plan was for Harry Reid to take the language in the Bacus plan, consolidate a bill by adding language to another bill, and send it to the house without changing any of the language so the House would pass the Senate bill and it would end up directly on Obama’s desk.

Can someone explain in detail what they are doing now?

jhffmn on November 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Knock,Knock,Knockin’ on Heavens Nancy’s door.

portlandon on November 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Go ahead, you idiots. You have to come home eventually. Do let what your constituents actually want matter to you. It’s all about what Obama wants. You are terminating your political careers. Schmucks.

kingsjester on November 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

How many Democrats will call in sick this weekend with swine flu?

GarandFan on November 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

The communist progressives are running the show. Until the other democrats decide they’ve had enough and must side with Republicans in saving this nation, we’ll be in danger.

The only people who can put a stop to this right now are the democrats who aren’t in the progressive wing.

The should grab the reins and fire Pelosi as speaker.

darwin on November 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Pelosi is a natural disaster.

This Bill could destroy our country as we know it AND SHE KNOWS IT.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Although I dislike the tactics, I wish the GOP had been this tough in trying to privatize part of Socialist Security.

DavidM on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Hell, my congresscritter is Marcy Kaptur. I would welcome being able to vote for Dede Scozza as an alternative.

Most corrupt, unethical and anti-democratic Congress. Ever.

rbj on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Hehehehe. HAHAHA.

If the Republicans do not win a majority in 2010. This woman is going to sink Obama’s presidency.

Theworldisnotenough on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Fortunately for me, my rep is Dan Lungren, and he’s voting NO.

Babs and Diane are another story…

Bob's Kid on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

My idiot Dem congress-organism (I’m no specist!), Brad Miller (NC-13) is in the tank with Pelosi… but I’m gonna contact his office anyway.

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

I called his office today (202.225.3032). The lady was nice, but I knew I was speaking to deaf ears. I was happy she was nice. They are usually quite rude.

Also, no word on the investigation on Miller’s claim of a death threat back in August, eh? I’m sure it never happened because he is full bull manure.

SouthernGent on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Pelosi is a unnatural disaster.

This Bill could destroy our country as we know it.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

fify

I mean really, have you looked at her?

ElectricPhase on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Although I dislike the tactics, I wish the GOP had been this tough in trying to privatize part of Socialist Security.

DavidM on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Ain’t that the truth.

Theworldisnotenough on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Hey, Blue Dogs. Feelin’ lucky?

Go ahead, make my day.

TXUS on November 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

The solution for this is to have citizens call the offices of these Representatives and remind them who’s boss.

The past few days I’ve called mine repeatedly (Blue Dog Travis Childers MS-1) and have yet to get anything but a busy signal. They are being bombarded like never before. They KNOW exactly how the American people feel about it — and they will likely do it anyway.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

They no longer have our consent? What are we going to do about it?

flyfisher on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I’m jealous of all of your great representatives. I have Tammy Baldwin. She told me she couldn’t vote to stop funding to ACORN because it was a slippery slope. What a joke.

sammypants on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

At some point, Democrats have to remember that they were Americans before they were Democrats. They had also better vote the way of their constituents’ wishes, or certain members of Congress will be adding to the 10.2% unemployment numbers.

Lap Dogs or Blue Dogs or Dirty Dogs. They’re all dogs.

Ricohoc on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

My congresswoman is Michele Bachman.

Eat your hearts out.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Jealous! I almost have Paul Ryan. He’s right next door, but instead I get Tammy Baldwin.

BadgerHawk on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Howsabout you use actual criticisms, and not sexist remarks, to slam Pelosi? There are plenty of really good insults that don’t comment on her sexual proclivities.

Meryl Yourish on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

No, I’d call Harry Reid an “incompetent wh@re” just the same. Nothing to do with sex………EVERYTHING to do with their priorities.

Don’t go around looking to be offended and chances are you won’t be, ‘kay?

JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

If Queen Pelosi doesn’t get this bill passed, like now, this could be the beginning of the end of her reign. Politics is tackle football and one day they have to leave – either on top or kicked out.

perroviejo on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

My congresswoman is Michele Bachman.

Eat your hearts out.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

I’m so jealous! I get Brad “death threat” Miller.

SouthernGent on November 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I know she has the Democrat Congressional Black Caucus in her pocket. We have a couple of their members here in Georgia and their staffs have basically taken the phones off the hook. There were reports yesterday from folks at the rally that they were going to issue an Amber Alert for David Scott (D-GA)because apparently even his staff didn’t know where he was. Oh yeah and Scott claims membership as a Blue Dog too. There isn’t a single spending bill that has come up that he hasn’t voted for.

Just A Grunt on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I see audacity, I see change, but where’s the hope!? Bigger question, where’s the liberal outrage over bad governance and the nuclear option that they steamed about only 4 years ago! Only hypocrites put party above principal, unless they never really had any principle…

geotopia on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

We need to make sure to hold anyone, and everyone who votes for this, accountable. Make sure they know you will fight tooth, and nail to not vote for them, and to convince others you won’t as well.

If Dems vote on this, because of Nancy Pelosi, then they haven’t seen the hell that hath no fury, like the voters wh get scorned.

capejasmine on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

While NAzi piglosi may want to cram this down people’s throats this weekend, I don’t think its gonna work. It smacks of desperation, on the heels of comment earlier in the week that said, “um folks we better wait till next year”

They are clearly in turmoil.

MELT THE PHONES.

dogsoldier on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

If ANY Republican votes for this the conservatives can Scozzafava them.

allstonian on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

My congresswoman is Michele Bachman.

Eat your hearts out.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

isn’t it a wonderful thing…..*sighs*

*points and laughs at those in Bawney Fwanks district*

alexraye on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Pelosi has been holding daily sessions in the Capitol where Dem congress-scum are taught how to put their hands over their ears, close their eyes, and say LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I can’t hear you!

Cicero43 on November 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM

There will be no firing them in 2010. All that lose in the next election have already been promised a cushy job in the new health care bureacracy. Think they don’t have this covered? How you think she is going to get the votes?

TEXASLEGAL on November 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Pretty sad that so many people are moping about their congressman; goes to show just how many moonbats are in power right now.

Did I mention I’m a Michele Bachman constituent?

*rubs salt into the wounds*

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I’m beginning to wonder if this woman isn’t as dangerous as the moron in the White House.

The president is a dim bulb, but Pelosi doesn’t even cast a shadow.

There may be a relationship between stupidity and cruelty, particularly when the person comes under the influence of smarter people who are filled with hatred.

That might explain how a mother turns into a monster.

notagool on November 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Melted phone lines and burned through at least a years worth of minutes beating my head against the wall with Levin and Stabanow in MI. On the bright side my Rep is Pete Hoekstra

ZeeMI on November 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Isn’t that so nice of Nancy. Protecting her fragile little congressmen from their constituents. To hell with the will of the people, do what you want, right Nancy. That’s pitiful and completely against what our Constitution represents. You will fail. I do not believe she has the votes, she is bluffing and the vote moves.

Election in VA== proof
Election in NJ== proof
Unemployment LEAPS to 102%== proof

Hammertime.

ted c on November 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Here\’s the position of all of the house Dems as of this morning.http://thehill.com/homenews/news/66091-current-house-healthcare-bill-whip-countIf you have a Republican congressman, please contact any friends or family members in other districts or states who have a democratic congressman and urge them to call TODAY!

parteagirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM

er, 10 POINT 2 % no 102%

my bad as we say on the court….

ted c on November 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM

If this passes this really is going to suck! I know my congresscritter won’t vote for it. One of the few (R) from WI. Man this is scary times we are in.

Brat4life on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Who is your congressman? Mine is Paul Ryan.

kcarpenter on November 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Lucky b@stards.

I have the dinosaur Obey as my “rep.” I swear, when he finally dies, I will pi$$ on his grave.

PimFortuynsGhost on November 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Why isn’t Obie Going to the Hill to cheer Nan and the Donks on. He will do just as good there as on the golf course.

Dire Straits on November 6, 2009 at 11:22 AM

My congresswoman is Michele Bachman.

Eat your hearts out.

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

I mean this in the nicest way – bite me

Mine’s Ellison – nuff said

gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM

I just looked at the “THE HILL” website posted by parteagirl above.

my congressman Perriello (5th CD Va) says he leans yes because he went to townhalls this summer!!!!! he went to the most of any other congressman (for which I give him credit). at only ONE did he receive a positive response to anything the *ssholes in Congress are doing.

kelley in virginia on November 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM

My Rep isnt voting!

becki51758 on November 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM

BREAKING NEWS: Dem leader says House health vote may be delayed due to lack of support

This on MSNBC.com

BobMbx on November 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Their utter arrogance and contempt for the American people is unparalleld in our history. KILL THE BILL. We don’t want it!

rjoco1 on November 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I mean this in the nicest way – bite me

Mine’s Ellison

gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I called Chet Edwards’ office yesterday – He is a democrat in a district that includes Texas A&M, and always sounds very conservative when he runs to fool those less informed, but then changes his spots after the election. His office said that he has not decided how he was going to vote on the bill,– that he was still “reviewing it”. I asked her when would we know, and she said “probably not until after he votes”. How disturbing and what a sleazy coward!!! I asked her if they had received many phone calls, and she said “some”. That was upsetting as well, if she was telling me the truth. His phone lines should be melting!

texasaggie on November 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM

My Congressman is Geoff Davis R-KY who is very much against Obamacare, thankfully.

wildcat84 on November 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM

There’s a fine line between gung-ho optimistic and shrill faced delusional. She crossed it and didn’t even look back. Her caucus will get decimated if they pass it in the house and the bill is scrutinized (for 72 hrs +). Then it’ll hit the fan in the senate.

mid_aged_man on November 6, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Mine’s Ellison
gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Has he ever slapped you around like he did to his wife?

Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 11:34 AM

er, 10 POINT 2 % no 102%

my bad as we say on the court….

ted c on November 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM

But it would have been 102% if not for the stimulus!

mankai on November 6, 2009 at 11:34 AM

I bet Chet Edwards will vote for it, the fraud.

WannabeAnglican on November 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Mine’s Ellison – nuff said

gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Ellison D-Mecca

Yeah, would suck to have that piece of work as your congressman.

wildcat84 on November 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Sorry for the double post Bishop – errors at work on the net today.

gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I guess this means we, the public, will have no opportunity to see this disaster of a bill before it is voted on. Over 2000 pages of legal mumbo-jumbo, safely hidden away from those who will suffer the most if it is passed.

Why don’t they just take the vote in a back alley off of K Street and have Black Panthers guard the perimeter.

This just doesn’t feel like America anymore.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I expect nothing else from the dems and Pelosi..if it passes, they lose massively next year. If it fails, they blame republicans and lose fewer next year…

JIMV on November 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Ellison D-Mecca

Yeah, would suck to have that piece of work as your congressman.

wildcat84 on November 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I love where I live but I am definitely in lion’s den so to speak.

We used to have Sabo – he was bad enough. Ellison is a nightmare.

gophergirl on November 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Ogabe’s on the boob tube now. Just heard him say “This Recovery Act saved or created over 1 million jobs”.

He still thinks nobody is onto his BS.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM

The goal must be to identify and defeat every one of those politicos that vote for this socialist healthcare manifesto. If they are such weak cowards that they can’t even stand up to Pelosi then they’re not fit for the job.

rplat on November 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM

It is now a pretty safe bet to assume that this woman is three French Fries shy of a Happy Meal!

If I were a Democrat facing re-election next year and pretty much assuming my constituency is going to be hopping furious with me if I vote yes on this measure, I would be looking to voting the opposite direction this time around, strictly on the basis that Nancy Pelosi is incompetent and out of her frigging mind, not to mention it being time for me to play a merry game of CYA!

pilamaye on November 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM

once again showing that “democrat” has little to do with “democracy”

Paradox Drive on November 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

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