Chris Matthews: We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

posted at 8:34 pm on November 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Well … yes, that’s true, if you think anything short of Hasan sitting up in his hospital bed and declaring “why, indeed, religion was a factor at Fort Hood” amounts to irresponsible speculation. But here’s what we’ve got so far, according to eyewitnesses, colleagues, and friends. He considered the war on terror a “war on Islam” and himself a Muslim first and an American second; he thought Muslims had the right to stand up to the “aggressor” in the Middle East and is suspected of posting things online about the selfless heroism of jihadist suicide bombers; he was placed on probation for proselytizing about Islam to patients and colleagues and was sufficiently devout that he refused to have his picture taken with women; he once used a lecture at a medical conference as an opportunity to discuss how the Koran orders decapitation for infidels; and, oh yes, he yelled “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.

Now, per the media’s favored Narrative, could a guy with that background have somehow compartmentalized that in his mind and been driven to kill entirely by pre-traumatic stress disorder or PTSD by proxy or whatever? I guess. Anything’s possible. But would the same benefit of the doubt be given to a nut trending towards fanaticism of a different ideological hue? Like I said yesterday on Twitter: You’ll know it’s okay to start speculating about Hasan’s motives when cops find a Glenn Beck book on his bookshelf. In fact, if the same “PTSD by proxy” elements had been present in Hasan’s bio but it turned out he’d attended a tea party or two, we’d already be well into hour 30 of a full-on media speculation orgy. The nutroots needed less time than that to pronounce conservatism collectively guilty of murder in the case of that hanged census worker, even though, as it turns out, he probably wasn’t murdered. But then, we’ve been over this ground before. For now, let’s simply look forward to this Sunday’s New York Times op-ed page, as Krugman and Rich and the rest of the gang who see murderers in every angry conservative face warn us how vicious it is to assume the worst about people because of one bad apple.

In fairness to Matthews, this isn’t a terrible interview. He does press his guest — a little — on the “Allahu Akbar” detail. What he doesn’t press him on is whether he’s the best person to be chatting about this subject. Anyone recognize our expert here?

Update: Incidentally, if Hasan does end up confessing to a jihadist motive, should we start re-thinking 9/11 as motivated in part by post-traumatic stress disorder? Bin Laden fought in Afghanistan against the Soviets, after all. Surely there must be some other explanation besides the obvious one.


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David Paterson to MSM: “Are you guys blind?”

LibTired on November 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM

No, no, Chris, just because he jumped up, yelled “Allahu Akbar” and started shooting all of the infidels………that is no reason to think he did this on religious grounds.

Pshaw.

JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Someone hacked MSNBC’s Twitter Account take a look at the messages they left about Obama and Olbermann and Maddow and Chris Matthews pretty funny. It appears that MSNBC has a crush on Glenn Beck LOL!

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/msnbc-having-a-bad-friday-nsfw/

Dr Evil on November 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM

I vote for death by Bacon!

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Do you know how long that takes? 60 years at least.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Only if you are limiting application to voluntary ingestion.

Count to 10 on November 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM

As far as I’m concerned this was a hate crime. Good thing we have that new hate crime bill, right?

ctmom on November 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

What doctor gave that diagnosis?

Greed on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

4. And whats up with Allahoakbar, killing other people and then not even killing himself ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

There is always the possibility that he lost consciousness unexpectedly.

Count to 10 on November 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Chris Matthews: We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood.

No, Chris, with your head up Ogabe’s arse I doubt that you ever will.

TugboatPhil on November 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

FIFY

uknowmorethanme on November 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM

MSNBC has found the long sought artificial intelligence. Really artificial.

Sounder on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

4. And whats up with Allahoakbar, killing other people and then not even killing himself ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

He was shot 4 times… reports are he is in a coma and partialy paralyzed.

Romeo13 on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Unfortunately we’ve become a nation of enablers rushing to make excuses for people like Hasan. It starts with the Enabler-in-Chief in the Oval Office, continues with the Corrupt Media Establishment, is carried into Classrooms by tenured, radical professors and Unionized, brainwashed public-school teachers. Then we sit back and wonder why we can’t connect the dots.

TheBigOldDog on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

where oh where is terryann is denounce all of this blatant racism on this thread????

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Now you’ve done it! She’ll be here along with Anninacan.

For shame!!

katy the mean old lady on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

For some reason I’m having a hard time finding the words for what I want to say / sorry….

Do some people actually have to see an attack on a grand scale such as 9/11 to “get it”?

Apparently, it was a lone guy with jihad on his mind.

What’s the difference between what happened yesterday and a suicide bomber? Just the weapon.

tehd on November 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM

MMMMM Bacon.

Jerricho68 on November 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Obama is getting blasted for his insanely insensitive response to this tragedy. The commenters are ripping him a new one, on NBC of all places.

uknowmorethanme on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Since the FBI was so quick to make the statement…

“This is not a terrorist attack!”

I would like to know exactly what the Rules of Engagement are if it WAS a terrorist attack.

Let me guess…

“This is not a terrorist attack! Do not arm yourselves or try to protect the lives of your family. Take off your clothes, and get on all fours in the street and wait for what is coming. That is all!”

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

He was not mentally ill. He was just evaluated a few months ago, and the heaviest action he has seen was on the History Channel.

Jerricho68 on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Why is it that Obama and the MSM can’t admit that the reason for this was because this guy cared more about his Islamic faith than he did about the lives he took. He did not want to go to Iraq/Afghanistan to fight against a fellow Muslim, so he took the lives of Americans.texasconserv on November 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

because muslims picking off white catholic americans is the hip new thing these days. plus, they deserve it. ARE YOU CELEBRATING THANKSGIVING THIS MONTH???? WILL YOU DARE TO HAVE A CHRISTMAS TREE IN YOUR LIVING ROOM WITH A MANGER AT THE BOTTOM OF IT?????

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA IF THAT IS HOW YOU WILL BE SPENDING THE NEXT 2 MONTHS!!!!!! YOU SICK CHRISTIAN B-STARDS!!!!!!!

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

In fairness to Matthews ….

Why bother Allah? We know he’s a mouthpiece for Obama who gets offended if anyone so much as mentions Hussein and Obama in the same breath.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM

He was shot 4 times… reports are he is in a coma and partialy paralyzed.

Romeo13 on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

If Hasan doesn’t die of his injuries, can he be executed for his crimes if he is partially paralysed ?
Or he has to be mentally ill to escape death penalty ?
Aha
Now know why everyone wants to talk about his mental illness
Setting up his defence even before he is arraigned ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Chris Matthews is representative of a new disease: those with Pre Traumatic Press Disorder (PTPD).

In this state patients, aka hacks posing as journalists, under only the stress of Liberalism and no real-world pressure, project reflexively their narrative unto their targets with no sense of remorse, shame, apprehension, and/or cognizance.

So sad. Some day Jerry Lewis will have a telethon. Until that day, we can only shake our heads and laugh. Mostly laugh.

AnonymousDrivel on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

“We may never know if Obama really believes there are 57 states in America.”

“We may never know if Hitler was truly a racist”

“We may never know if Charles Manson is an psychopathic,homicidal maniac.”

“We may never know if Chairman Mao was a mass murdering communist.”

“We may never know if Che was a mass murdering communist.”

“We may never know if muslim extremist truly hate Jews.”

“We may never know if Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has a gigantic ego.”

“We may never know if Pamela Anderson has breast implants.”

“We may never know if Keith Olberman is a complete douche-bag.”

“We may never know if Dinosaurs really existed.”

“We may never know if fire can melt steel.”

“We may never know if Barbara Streisand has the spelling capability of a 5 year old.”

“We may never know who truly shot JR.”

“We may never know if there is really a bogyman.”

“We may never know if OJ did it.”


“We may never know if a man who praised suicide bombers,ranted against the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan,handed out Koran’s to just about everyone he knew,gave speeches claiming non-believers of Islam should be beheaded,and yelled “allah akbar” before starting his killing spree had anything to do with his religion.”


…..I wonder if the press wonder at all about why only 17% of Americans consider them credible sources of information?

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

TheBigOldDog on November 6, 2009 at 9:16 PM

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What you mean ‘we’ white man?…/lol
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

He must have been misunderstood while he was shooting. Maybe he was really saying “Aloha Snackbar!”

crosspatch on November 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Chrissy’s leg cramp has gone to his brain.

Dave R. on November 6, 2009 at 9:27 PM

…..I wonder if the press wonder at all about why only 17% of Americans consider them credible sources of information?

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

If not for a Fox News and a few blogs, who would even know what the state run media is saying?

Jerricho68 on November 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Since the FBI was so quick to make the statement…

“This is not a terrorist attack!”
Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

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Ahhh… But the real question as to what this was… Was it a Man-Caused Disaster?
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Chris Matthews: We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

Speak for yourself Chris! You may never know, but I guarantee you that most Americans already know that Hasan – a devotee to the “religion of peace” – is a jihadist, and wished that along with the four bullets she pumped in him, Sergeant Kimberly Munley had stuffed a grenade down his throat and pulled the pin.

RMR on November 6, 2009 at 9:31 PM

I almost feel sorry for this slob.

He does everything EXCEPT rent the Goodyear blimp to scream: “This is all about ALLAH!!!”, and Chris Mathews is confused?

He waltzes around Ft. Hood in full Muslim attire.
He passes out copies of the Koran.
He tells fellow officers that WE are the aggressors!
He writes on a blog that “suicide bombers are like heroes throwing their body on a grenade”
He shouts “ALLAH AKBAR!” while slaughtering innocent people.

And this is CONFUSING Chris Mathews??

no wonder no one with a brain watches MSNBC.

Justrand on November 6, 2009 at 9:31 PM

But but but the FBI honcho said terrorism was “ruled out”

I don’t know about you, but I’m satisfied.

NOT!

conservnut on November 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Hasan did it to get his 72 virgins
He is sooooooo close
Why are we delaying it for him ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

I vote for death by Bacon!

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Do you know how long that takes? 60 years at least.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Only if you are limiting application to voluntary ingestion.

Count to 10 on November 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM

That man malik should be hog et. For you yankees that means to be eaten by a pig.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Why can’t these a$$wipes just off themselves, if the world is so awful? Why must they take out innocent people who have done nothing to deserve this?

Oh yeah, I forgot, Allah is a bloodthirsty child rapist and if you believe in him, you must murder innocents to appease his blood lust.

Religion of peace my aunt fannie.

tcn on November 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

And this is CONFUSING Chris Mathews??

no wonder no one with a brain watches MSNBC.

Justrand on November 6, 2009 at 9:31 PM

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It’s like watching an old b&w comedy where the idiot paints himself into a corner… Only this is way worse cause it’s about life and death. Chris is less than worthless for this kind of situation. He’s too far gone.
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM

He may never know, because he has no mind to.

JellyToast on November 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Nihad Awad was eyeing Matthews and picturing himself as the one cutting his piggy head off. Sorry to be so grotesque, I watched a few minutes w/out sound and that’s how it appeared to me.

4shoes on November 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM

That man malik should be hog et. For you yankees that means to be eaten by a pig.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

It’ll be easier to just inject some bacon-grease into his
I-V

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Chris is less than worthless for this kind of situation. He’s too far gone.
RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Sorry… need to finish the thought.
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He’s too far gone down the hope and change, kumbaya trail.
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM

If America would just roll over and die it would make it sooo much easier for jihadis er I mean obama . since there one and the same.
obama akbar.. death to america.we’re all dhimmies now.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Chris is right. We’ll never truly know whether this fanatic drew upon his deep muslim faith as inspiration… Our guess has about a 99.9% chance of being correct, but we won’t truly know…

phreshone on November 6, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Matthews is a caricature. He embodies the PC movement and all that is wrong with it.
It’s sad he is in a position to spew his opinion to an audience, small as it is.

FireBlogger on November 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

We may never know squat until the leg tingles confirm it all.
Those of us who have never had leg tingles can’t really know anything.

seven on November 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM

If not for a Fox News and a few blogs, who would even know what the state run media is saying?

Jerricho68 on November 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

To many independents unfortunately.

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Matthews is such a freakn’ A**H***

CynicalOptimist on November 6, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Nice country you got there dhimmies .Not for long. Signed , barak malik hussain obama.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Chris Matthews is not a stupid man. He knows exactly why this man acted the way he did.
As Carville would say, “It’s the Jihad, stupid.”
Chris sold himself for a big paycheck and now he repeats the lines he’s given.

lonestar1 on November 6, 2009 at 9:58 PM

This muslim guy decided to become a terrorist like those he revered.

Mathews is a fool and an idiot.

dogsoldier on November 6, 2009 at 10:01 PM

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Isn’t it funny how Obama doesn’t want us to “rush to judgment” concerning this scumbag but he didn’t hesitate to do the same to Officer Crowley?

Tool-in-Chief.

NoLeftTurn on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 P
Officer Crowley wasn’t a muslime.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The same people who see “racism” in everything and everybody can’t see radical islamist fundamentalism when it is hitting them in the face.

Star20 on November 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The same people who see “racism” in everything and everybody can’t see radical islamist fundamentalism when it is hitting them in the face.

Star20 on November 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM
They will when it actually hits them in the face.Oops it’ll be too late then.

huckelberry on November 6, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Cannot believe that Chrissy didn’t bring up the oldie but goodie, if Bush had never invaded Iraq in the first place, this would have never happened.

JeffinOrlando on November 6, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Kudos to your point in the update, AP.

JKahn913 on November 6, 2009 at 10:12 PM

AND IS HE STILL “ALLEGED” as the gunman, as all media d*ckheads are saying?

leftnomore on November 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM

We need to realize that Mohammad declared war against Christians and Jews in fact for our decapitation. This is just as valid a commandment to Muslims now at is was then. Islam is a murderous Government institution not a Religion. It does have it’s followers worship the Government but that is what it is. This government has leaders that fight amongst themselves even in 100% Muslim countries. Peace with non-Muslims is 100% not acceptable by this Government. It will allow peace only while amassing an army to kill us. It about war and nothing but war. It is not a Religion.

Steveangell on November 6, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Well, perhaps Mathews will know when a worthless muslim blows the head off of someone he “cares” about. What an idiotic turd!!!!!!

jgdp on November 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Matthews interviewing a CAIR spokesman about this is akin to using Mengele as the sole authority on Hitler’s sanity. Any journalist that isn’t laughing at Matthews is just another Soros shill.

snaggletoothie on November 6, 2009 at 10:23 PM

It wasn’t really “jihad” johad…

/Whoopi

hamnj7 on November 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

If Chris Matthews had never voted for Bush, if NBC didn’t lead the charge to invade Iraq, maybe the poor mistreated Hasan wouldn’t have been kept in the military and promoted just to prove the US doesn’t have any bias against members of the religion of peace.

lonestar1 on November 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Chris Matthews: We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

Ah yes but we know that everyone is raciest if they oppose Obama.

Octavia on November 6, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Occam’s Razor, anyone? You know, that’s the kind they use to slit throats.

rrpjr on November 6, 2009 at 10:30 PM

I know everyone thinks Hassan should be healed up only to faced a hangman’s noose but I think a life sentence of watching a continuous loop of “Jimmy Leg”-Chris Matthew’s show on the tube would be a tougher punishment.

chickasaw42 on November 6, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Okay the headline made me laugh out loud! I haven’t read anything yet but did Chris really say that? Man, where did his brain go these past few years? Poor Chris he has really just lost touch with reality. It is almost not worth paying attention to anymore. Actually I guess that is why he has no viewers.

petunia on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Mr. Mathews, you are either completely ignorant, in which case you can study up and learn. Or you are a complete idiot that has his hands over his ears going ” Lalalalala” so you do not have to pay attention to reality.

shar61 on November 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Mathews is a muslim appologist,,,or have I missed something?

jgdp on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 PM

AND IS HE STILL “ALLEGED” as the gunman, as all media d*ckheads are saying?

leftnomore on November 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM

He wasn’t alleged when he was dead… but now that he is alive I guess he is alleged.

He will be tried in a military court right? Do they have the death penalty? He should get life for the treason alone. In the fifties they executed people for treason right? What do they do now? Mental hospital? Probably.

If I hear one more discussion of battle stress relating to this crime I’m going to scream! The man was never in combat! He doesn’t have PTSD! He was just straight up crazy! But still responsible, he was educated and moneyed. He had options and should have gotten help.

petunia on November 6, 2009 at 11:06 PM

What is obviously omitted in all the discussion is the Gore factor of melting icecaps and the profound influence that had on the shooter. Where are the global warmers when you need them?/s

wepeople on November 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Maybe Hasan just got a thrill up his trigger finger.

Daemonocracy on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Chris Matthews also wonders about the murky connection between hens and those oval, shell-covered, yolk-filled objects often found beneath them.

We may never know if chickens have something to do with eggs…”

(Substitute Korans for chickens and jihadis for eggs, Chrissy.)

profitsbeard on November 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I doubt he will survive and ever be tried. He is not expected to come out of his Coma from what I hear.

But if he had killed people in a planned parenthood clinic the media would give him no sympathy what so ever. He would be guilty on every network.

Steveangell on November 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Why are we even discussing Matthews, again. He\’s on his last legs like the New York Times, or the Dodo. Let him finish his career in an unnoticed peaceful coma. After 2010 and 2012 he won\’t be able to find work anywhere…As for the terrorist, he tried to die for Allah. He only gets 35 virgins, but unfortunately being paralyzed and all, he\’s gonna have an eternity to figure out what to do with them.My opinion? He should get life… in front of a firing squad.Meantime the Jihad keeps dying for their cause. I remember Khadafi drawing a line of death too, and sure enough, every Arab that crossed that line died.Unfortunately, our Idiot-in-chief is quickly trying to give up on the \’Crusade\’ and they\’re actually going to keep this up until we all start wearing \’Templar\’ crosses, and wipe them out again. (Have I jumped the shark and created a hate crime yet, because I do truly hate them.)btw – the Sergeant deserves the Freedom medal, shame she\’s a civilian, cuz it\’d be a silver star minimum. And I think this qualifies as the Enemy Action part.If this guy lives, the UCMJ will have him hung or shot…

docjohn52 on November 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM

We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

Shouldn’t that be: We may never know if Chris Matthews has more than two brain cells to rub together without causing his leg to tingle.

Wondering minds don’t really want to know.

Tennman on November 6, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Being a muslim and killing anyone makes you guilty of religious-incited violence automatically if you ask me. You can’t worship a god created in the fanatic mind of a mass murderer and ever claim to be a peaceful person.

TheBlueSite on November 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Being a muslim and killing anyone makes you guilty of religious-incited violence automatically if you ask me.

I do not like absolutes. Muslims can and do commit crimes just like the rest of us do. But no real religion has members who do these terrible crimes. Only Islamic Adherents do this in large numbers. They are also the only ones to do this to please their “God”. All real religions condemn those that do this kind of thing. Muslims build statutes to them pay their families and glorify them.

Steveangell on November 6, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Who is “we,” Chrissy? We know. It’s just you.

Connie on November 6, 2009 at 11:58 PM

I have always known that Crissy rows with one oar in the water.

nor on November 7, 2009 at 12:20 AM

We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

Nope we may never know if it was a factor, just like we may never know whether breathing is an essential function to sustain life.

rukiddingme on November 7, 2009 at 12:21 AM

How.. can.. anyone.. be.. this.. obtuse?

Allahu Akbar!!

Gosh, I guess we’ll just never know………..

Joy on November 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM

Unfortunately we’ve become a nation of enablers rushing to make excuses for people like Hasan. It starts with the Enabler-in-Chief in the Oval Office, continues with the Corrupt Media Establishment, is carried into Classrooms by tenured, radical professors and Unionized, brainwashed public-school teachers. Then we sit back and wonder why we can’t connect the dots.

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal government. The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001.

Do not forget a white christian repug boy.

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Perhaps the whole “religion of peace” meme perpetuated by our government is not motivated by political correctness:

A very small minority of the world’s muslims understand and act on the clearly stated Koranic command to kill infidels.

It is probably in our better interest to have muslims confused about their religion, rather than know the truth – since the truth is that Allah has commanded them to kill us all.

July 10 on November 7, 2009 at 12:40 AM

If Der Leader whom he is so infatuated with in a teen-girl crush “ooh my leg is tingling” says it, It must be true ! Right Prissy-a$$ ??

cableguy615 on November 7, 2009 at 12:41 AM

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Yeah, we were talking on the other thread about how we could get a wheelchair on the gallows and all. I’m not sure how we’d do it if he was flat laid out in bed. Maybe we’ll have to settle for Lethal Injection. (Administered by a woman)

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:42 AM

…..I wonder if the press wonder at all about why only 17% of Americans consider them credible sources of information?

Baxter Greene on November 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM

We may never know.

Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM

Do not forget a white christian repug boy.

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM

I’m interested to see evidence he voted Republican and not democrat. Are you sure he was a Christian and not an atheist?

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:45 AM

It is almost not worth paying attention to anymore. Actually I guess that is why he has no viewers.

petunia on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM

One viewer is too many. Do not click!

Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 12:47 AM

kokobin – Did McVeigh carry out the bombing for religious reasons? Did he ever say he did it for his God? Your own post clearly cites his reasons and they were not religious. And even if they were, he is a loner. He doesn’t have millions of fellow ‘Christians’ committing acts of terrorism all over the world. Muslim jihad is not RARE. It is all too common.

Your analogy and attempt at moral equivalency fails.

Joy on November 7, 2009 at 12:48 AM

Do not forget a white christian repug boy.

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM

BTW, we knuckle-dragging Conservatives have our Tim McVeigh annual memorial in the Green Room if you ever want to join in.

Also BTW, did you see a great outpouring of support for him from any religious community during his trial or through to him execution?

Muslim danced in the streets on 9-11. Look around the blogosphere and you’ll see people (loosely termed) who for some reason are joyful that American Soldiers were killed.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:50 AM

kokobin on November 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM

You copied the intro to McViegh from the Wikipedia article.

Then you made three assertions:

Do not forget a white christian repug boy.

So, obviously you either failed to read the rest of the Wiki article or you are intentionally lying and misrepresenting McViegh’s beliefs and affiliations. Here are the relevant parts of the article you failed to cite which do not support your claims:

Political

McVeigh’s only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party when he lived in New York and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[11] McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[12] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election.[13]

Religious

Throughout his childhood, he and his father were Roman Catholics and often attended daily Mass. In a recorded interview with Time magazine[14] McVeigh professed his belief in “a God”, although he said he had “sort of lost touch with” Catholicism and “I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.” The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic.[15] McVeigh at one time said that he believed the universe was guided by natural law, energized by some universal higher power that showed each person right from wrong if they paid attention to what was going on inside them. He had also said, “Science is my religion.“[16]

In summary. You are a liar and a troll.

Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 12:55 AM

or through to hi”s” execution?

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:55 AM

Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 12:55 AM

Well Lox, once again you answered the questions I had that the trolls couldn’t or wouldn’t.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Muslims murder people in the name of their alleged religion in the name of their pagan moon god.

They have done this thousands of times.

wildcat84 on November 7, 2009 at 1:02 AM

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:59 AM

You know so many things that I do not, can do so many things that I cannot, and are providing a great service to our country which I could never do. And I very much admire you for all of that.

Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM

Yeah, we were talking on the other thread about how we could get a wheelchair on the gallows and all. I’m not sure how we’d do it if he was flat laid out in bed. Maybe we’ll have to settle for Lethal Injection. (Administered by a woman)

hawkdriver on November 7, 2009 at 12:42 AM

Wheelchair ? Wheelchair ?
So why not strap Hasan to a wheelchair and throw him overboard ? Is Achille lauro still sailing ?

macncheez on November 7, 2009 at 1:09 AM

I’ve got it. PC doesn’t mean Politically Correct. It’s Politically Communists!

Griz on November 7, 2009 at 1:15 AM

Fortunately we won’t have to wait that long to know that Matthews is a politically correct dunce.

flataffect on November 7, 2009 at 1:45 AM

I just came down with PTSD after listening to Matthews.

Fed45 on November 7, 2009 at 2:02 AM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

that just decided to randomly shout the phrase “Allah Akbar”. lone actor. Right!

Fed45 on November 7, 2009 at 2:09 AM

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