Chris Matthews: We may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood

posted at 8:34 pm on November 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Well … yes, that’s true, if you think anything short of Hasan sitting up in his hospital bed and declaring “why, indeed, religion was a factor at Fort Hood” amounts to irresponsible speculation. But here’s what we’ve got so far, according to eyewitnesses, colleagues, and friends. He considered the war on terror a “war on Islam” and himself a Muslim first and an American second; he thought Muslims had the right to stand up to the “aggressor” in the Middle East and is suspected of posting things online about the selfless heroism of jihadist suicide bombers; he was placed on probation for proselytizing about Islam to patients and colleagues and was sufficiently devout that he refused to have his picture taken with women; he once used a lecture at a medical conference as an opportunity to discuss how the Koran orders decapitation for infidels; and, oh yes, he yelled “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.

Now, per the media’s favored Narrative, could a guy with that background have somehow compartmentalized that in his mind and been driven to kill entirely by pre-traumatic stress disorder or PTSD by proxy or whatever? I guess. Anything’s possible. But would the same benefit of the doubt be given to a nut trending towards fanaticism of a different ideological hue? Like I said yesterday on Twitter: You’ll know it’s okay to start speculating about Hasan’s motives when cops find a Glenn Beck book on his bookshelf. In fact, if the same “PTSD by proxy” elements had been present in Hasan’s bio but it turned out he’d attended a tea party or two, we’d already be well into hour 30 of a full-on media speculation orgy. The nutroots needed less time than that to pronounce conservatism collectively guilty of murder in the case of that hanged census worker, even though, as it turns out, he probably wasn’t murdered. But then, we’ve been over this ground before. For now, let’s simply look forward to this Sunday’s New York Times op-ed page, as Krugman and Rich and the rest of the gang who see murderers in every angry conservative face warn us how vicious it is to assume the worst about people because of one bad apple.

In fairness to Matthews, this isn’t a terrible interview. He does press his guest — a little — on the “Allahu Akbar” detail. What he doesn’t press him on is whether he’s the best person to be chatting about this subject. Anyone recognize our expert here?

Update: Incidentally, if Hasan does end up confessing to a jihadist motive, should we start re-thinking 9/11 as motivated in part by post-traumatic stress disorder? Bin Laden fought in Afghanistan against the Soviets, after all. Surely there must be some other explanation besides the obvious one.


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We may never know if religion was a factor on 9/11.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Chris, we know you know and we know, so what does it matter if you admit that you know as long we know. Heh.

javamartini on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

I watched this live

The CAIR representative was freaking out – he kept saying “how do we know its about religion”, etc.

When the CAIR rep said “when eric rudolph attacked abortion clinics, no one blamed christianity” and “no one ties christians to anti-abortion violence” i literalyl spit up my pepsi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this guy 1 week old or is he just a liar?

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

I was just reading this at the Weekly Standard:

Obama Searching for the Root Causes of Ft. Hood Massacre

It looks like the man who killed 13 soldiers and police at Ft. Hood was a Muslim radical who hated America, resented our occupation of Muslim lands, would not be photographed with women, and chanted “Allahu Akbar” before he launched a one-man terrorist attack, but according to CBS White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, Obama wants to know what really made him do it:

Obama said he met today with FBI Director et al to discuss “what caused one individual to turn his gun on fellow servicemen and women.”

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Sure you are always hearing people scream ‘allah you shitbar’ before they start shooting.

cjk on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

We may never know if religion was a factor on 9/11.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

You won’t catch me jumping to conclusions.

artist on November 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

OT….BOR to interview Sarah Palin in 2 weeks.

Sorry AP

Knucklehead on November 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Well … yes, that’s true, if you think anything short of Hasan sitting up in his hospital bed and declaring “why, indeed, religion was a factor at Fort Hood” amounts to irresponsible speculation.

That’s so cute. You think they’d actually accept that as proof.

calbear on November 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

This guy has to be one of the dumbest people alive.

BruceB on November 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

You won’t catch me jumping to conclusions.

artist on November 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

You’d get all wee wee’d up if you did.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM

We may never know if intelligent thought is a factor with this guy, either.

Corky on November 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Well, we may never know if Chrissy humped 0bama’s leg at the DNC either, but we have little reason to doubt it…

SuperCool on November 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Obama said he met today with FBI Director et al to discuss “what caused one individual to turn his gun on fellow servicemen and women.”

ISLAM!

There, I saved him a meeting.

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

PTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSD
PTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSD
PTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSD

Gosh, how can we think it’s anything other than PTSD.

Enoxo on November 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Since Hassan will one day sit in a courtroom we probably will know. If it was religion he will say so.

Chris_Balsz on November 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Major Hasan is like Joe the Plumber in a way. Remember the MSM said Joe the Plumber couldn’t be a real plumber because he didn’t have a licence? Well, Hasan can’t be a religiously motivated terrorist because he didn’t have an official imprimatur from Al Qaeda. He’s an unlicenced jihadist, IOW.

aengus on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Isn’t it funny how Obama doesn’t want us to “rush to judgment” concerning this scumbag but he didn’t hesitate to do the same to Officer Crowley?

Tool-in-Chief.

NoLeftTurn on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Not
Gonna
Click
Nope

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

But yet a wacko killing an abortion doctor is an indictment of every sort of evangelical and fundamentalist.

ddrintn on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Question.

How will this be legally handled?

Through military courts? Or through Texas courts? Or through a Federal Court (likely somewhere in TExas)

And, what would the death penalty method be for this guy if its done by the military?

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

But will we ever know if political correctness that prevented Hasan from being removed from the Army before this happened was the real problem? He had a documented history of doing wacky things involving his Islamic views, and he was just transfered around to send the problems to the next post. Somewhere, someone is sitting in front of their TV watching this unfold and saying “I could have stopped this and I took the easy route instead.” Whoever you are, if you read this, Damn you! I hope you never get another good night of sleep.

MikeA on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

We may never know if it was Obama or Olbermann that gave him that thrill.

Ronnie on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

I vote for death by Bacon!

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

CM and Beltway Bob probably are good friends. They have about the same IQ.

Philly on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

If he has even half a brain, Hasan will beg for life in prison. If he gets out I doubt there is a hole deep enough to save his sorry butt.

MikeA on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Update: Incidentally, if Hasan does end up confessing to a jihadist motive, should we start re-thinking 9/11 as motivated in part by post-traumatic stress disorder?

Toilet training. I think it all goes back to that.

Loxodonta on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Isn’t it funny how Obama doesn’t want us to “rush to judgment” concerning this scumbag but he didn’t hesitate to do the same to Officer Crowley?

Tool-in-Chief.

NoLeftTurn on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

There is nothing funny about it
In both cases he made up his mind against a white cop

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

NoLeftTurn on November 6, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Yes–Power Line had a post: Jumping to Conclusions

“Don’t jump to conclusions” is an all-purpose tautology, like “Don’t panic.” It’s hard to argue with. One wonders, though, exactly what conclusions he has in mind. I think it’s safe to predict that President Obama will never reach those conclusions, let alone jump to them….

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

When the guy tells the 7-11 clerk that he doesn’t want to be deployed, and have to kill Muslims, and then turn around and kills Americans–including a pregnant woman–it’s nothing but his faith.

Enoxo on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Having Odumbass as “president” has caused me PTSD.

txag92 on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM


Yesterday was the deadliest islamo-fascist terrorist attack on the United States of America since 9/11/2001…

There, it has been said. Now watch the Political Correct squeal and squirm…

Seven Percent Solution on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM

The media is just disappointed that this guy turned out to be a Muslim — which I predicted the minute I heard this break on the news. You know they were just hoping and praying the shooter was some Southern redneck so they could whip out Janet Napolitano’s right-wing terror memo and say, “SEE????”

NoLeftTurn on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM

The Power Line post continued:

PAUL adds: Suddenly, President Obama doesn’t want to jump to conclusions. He had no such compunction about jumping to conclusions when his friend Professor Gates harangued a police officer.

I think we can jump to a few in this case. The shooter hated the United States and its armed forces. The shooter’s grievances were political and religious in nature. In addition, the shooter may have had grievances specific to things that were said and done to him. Any such grievances cannot remotely explain or justify his resort to violence, much less mass killing. The killings are best viewed as an act of terrorism grounded in radical Islam.

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Update: Incidentally, if Hasan does end up confessing to a jihadist motive, should we start re-thinking 9/11 as motivated in part by post-traumatic stress disorder? Bin Laden fought in Afghanistan against the Soviety, after all. Surely there must be some other explanation besides the obvious one.

Looking for alternate explanations? Here’s the most well thought-out explanation I read on DailyKos:

JEWS.

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM

INC on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

It was because the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s & 60s to focus on court challenges for incremental political change, rather than working for redistributive change. Dear Liar has said so.

Good thing Hasan wasn’t a Methodist or a Lutheran. They have some killer hot dishes.

rbj on November 6, 2009 at 8:46 PM

I’m sure Hasan will use the twinkie defense.

John the Libertarian on November 6, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Anyone know the name of the FBI genius that declared this to not be a terrorism related incident eraly on? The came from a person, not a building or agrency. Who was that person?

MikeA on November 6, 2009 at 8:48 PM

We may never know if religion was a factor on 9/11.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM

And, some are not convinced it played as a factor on Good Friday either, still today!

ericdijon on November 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Oh come on! The guy just snapped. Kinda like bin laden just snapped and stole 4 passenger jets.

obleo on November 6, 2009 at 8:50 PM

I will not tap dance on this.

This was a Act of Terrorism against America.

Plane and simple.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 8:50 PM

When the guy tells the 7-11 clerk that he doesn’t want to be deployed, and have to kill Muslims, and then turn around and kills Americans–including a pregnant woman–it’s nothing but his faith.

Enoxo on November 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Kill ?
Isn’t he a doctor?
Why would he have to kill anybody ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Plane = Plain

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

My theory has been that the killer wants everyone to believe that it was about religion (even though it likely wasn’t) just to increase anti-Muslim sentiment and build up support for even more war and bombing campaigns. The incident was likely done IMO to increase pro-war sentiment, especially since the polls indicate that Americans want out of the region.

The Dean on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

I am Chris Matthews complete lack of credibility.

FloatingRock on November 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Chrissy and the far left can stick to this narrative all they want, but it isn’t going to fly with the rest of the country. They know. And Chrissy knows they know.

Rational Thought on November 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Why would he have to kill anybody ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

He wouldn’t. He would never be close to the front lines.

Kini on November 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM

We want our 500,000.00 plus that the USA spent educating
this piece of slime. Then the USA can give that money to that darling Texas Hero, Ms. Munley. Redistribution baby, conservative style.

nondhimmie on November 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Looking for alternate explanations? Here’s the most well thought-out explanation I read on DailyKos:

JEWS.

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Meh, it’s Kos.

Jews are responsible for everything according to those douchebags.

SuperCool on November 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM

The incident was likely done IMO to increase pro-war sentiment, especially since the polls indicate that Americans want out of the region.

But the justification for the wars was “We have to fight them over there or we’ll be fighting them over here”.

Doesn’t this incident make a mockery of that?

aengus on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Col. Ralph Peters was just on and gave a scathing rebuttal to all this PTSD-by-proxy BS. He was awesome.

Hope someone posts it somewhere soon. Really worth watching again. And again.

IrishEi on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Since Hassan will one day sit in a courtroom we probably will know. If it was religion he will say so.

Chris_Balsz on November 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

“If” it was religion, I doubt that he’ll have to say so.

uncivilized on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

TIME FOR ANOTHER LINK!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

14,430 deadly terror attacks since 9/11

ISLAMIST ATTACKS IN AMERICA SINCE 9/11:

2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too ‘Westernized.’
2009.10.20 USA Peoria, AZ 0 2 A Muslim immigrant runs down his 20-year-old daughter with his car for being too ‘Westernized.’ She and another woman are injured.
2009.06.01 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim with ‘religious motives’ guns down a local soldier in a drive-by attack.
2009.02.12 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
2008.07.06 USA Atlanta, Georgia 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2008.01.01 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their ‘Western’ lifestyle.
2007.02.20 USA Nashville, TN 0 1 A Muslim cab driver runs over a Christian after arguing about religion. The young man’s ankle and hip are broken by the vehicle.
2007.02.13 USA Salt Lake City, UT 5 4 A Muslim immigrant enters a gift shop and mows down five people buying Valentines Day cards, in a brutal hate crime.
2006.10.06 USA Louisville, KY 4 1 In an ‘honor’ attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2006.07.28 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2006.06.25 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
2006.06.16 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.

and i got tired of cutting and pasting…..

WHAT WAS THEIR MOTIVATION?

WE SHALL NEVER KNOW!

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

The irony is if a Christian fundamentalist shouted Allahu Akbar before killing someone, as odd as that might be, the left would play up the religion angle.

It must be hard for the left to always have to carry water for the scummiest people alive just to carry on what they consider to be the ideological “good fight”. In other words, they have to go to bat for a mass murderer simply to fight the much bigger propaganda battle against conservatives. As much as I despise guys like Mathews, I don’t think they enjoy being put in this position. But he has his priorities. He has the good fight to fight and that means laying down with dogs.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Serpant in the garden. Not them. Us. With PC and all.

/bottleinfrontofme

obleo on November 6, 2009 at 8:54 PM

It wouldn’t surprise me if chris matthews had a representative of hamas or hezbollah on this matter. I find CAIR to be an illegitimate organization who’ll do nothing but defend radicals rather than condemn them.

jaboba on November 6, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Hasan was active military and committed his crime on a military base, against primarily military members.

The military has primary jurisdiction in this case. It will be interesting to watch though how this might be handled if the Feds decide to get involved, etc.

IF the guy were sentenced to death, he could either be shot by firing squad or hung, conceivably. The military has no lethal injection site as far as I know, and I’m not sure if they have a gas chamber of electric chair anymore either.

catmman on November 6, 2009 at 8:54 PM

This is one of the reasons why I wish this guy had just died. I never think that way. The trial and coverage is going to be such a joke. I’m dreading his interviews were he plays the victim.

sammypants on November 6, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Really.

Maybe we could get some crackerjack reporter to do some investigative work on the guy. He is still alive, you know. Hey, wait…maybe the actual perp could tell us things, too. Maybe we could sit down and talk to him about his life and possibly glean some information to conclude motive. I dunno. It’s worth a shot.

Diane on November 6, 2009 at 8:55 PM

The Dean on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

My theory is that you are a warped individual and that you should hang yourself immediately.

Really Right on November 6, 2009 at 8:55 PM

It must be hard for the left to always have to carry water for the scummiest people alive just to carry on what they consider to be the ideological “good fight”. In other words, they have to go to bat for a mass murderer simply to fight the much bigger propaganda battle against conservatives. As much as I despise guys like Mathews, I don’t think they enjoy being put in this position. But he has his priorities. He has the good fight to fight and that means laying down with dogs.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM

I agree 100%.

You know its times like this they think “dangit im defending these slimes”, but the worse enemy is the white, married Baptist parents of 2 in albany, georgia. “american taliban” and all that.

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:56 PM

My theory has been that the killer wants everyone to believe that it was about religion (even though it likely wasn’t) just to increase anti-Muslim sentiment and build up support for even more war and bombing campaigns. The incident was likely done IMO to increase pro-war sentiment, especially since the polls indicate that Americans want out of the region.

The Dean343 on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Whatever you say, Dear.

Del Dolemonte on November 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Um, I’ll take fanatical Islamic terrorist for $1000,Alex.

katy the mean old lady on November 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Anyone know the name of the FBI genius that declared this to not be a terrorism related incident eraly on? The came from a person, not a building or agrency. Who was that person?

MikeA on November 6, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Know what really got me furious, Mike? The FBI said they were on their way to Fort Hood to investigate, but that they did not believe it was terrorism.

This is their standard operating procedure. I am confident that it comes all the way from the top—and they were doing it while Bush was in office too.

Makes me sick.

IrishEi on November 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Military on Military crime, on an Army Post…

Military Court Martial, Murder, and possibly Treason charges…

Texas does not have Jurisdiction, and I would be suprised if the Justice Department would try to snag this from the Military…. especialy as bad as the Military/Admin relationship is.

Romeo13 on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Oh… and as to Mathews?

There are none so blind, as he who will not see.

Romeo13 on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Meant to emphasize this:

They knew it wasn’t terrorism even before they got there.

IrishEi on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

My theory has been that the killer wants everyone to believe that it was about religion (even though it likely wasn’t) just to increase anti-Muslim sentiment and build up support for even more war and bombing campaigns. The incident was likely done IMO to increase pro-war sentiment, especially since the polls indicate that Americans want out of the region.

The Dean on November 6, 2009 at 8:51 PM

eh, not funny.

and what exactly is “ANTI MUSLIM SENTIMENT“?

How do you measure ‘sentiment’?

How does it ‘increase’?

I mean, if you polled 100 americans (as gallup does), 60+ of theem have a flat out negative view of islam. does that mean i have ‘sentiment’?

CALL ME WHEN MUSLIMS IN 2009 ARE TREATED LIKE BLACKS IN 1909. SPARE ME YOUR WHINES.

(i dont remember mlk or emmitt till getting personal foot baths at george mason. maybe im just ‘dumb’ about A-A civil rights?????)

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

“Allahu Akbar” in the mind of a crazy may be more dangerous than a load gun in the hands of a criminal… I’m just saying…
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Oh, and Matthews is an ‘idiot’.
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RalphyBoy on November 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Ultimately who’s the victim here?

obleo on November 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM

I vote for death by Bacon!

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

I try that every sat morning, hasnt worked. (yet)

Greed on November 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Sometimes, a pig is just a pig …. er … wait, it’s always a pig.

OldEnglish on November 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Yes, he was REALLY yelling “Aloha Snackbar”… because this was really caused by Low blood sugar…

Romeo13 on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

honest to God…i simply cannot take anymore of this idiocy from the left. i just can’t stomach it anymore.

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

This is Too Funny. Their twitter account got hacked. LOL! somebody ask Chris Matthews what that could possibly mean. LMAO.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/msnbc-having-a-bad-friday-nsfw/

Dr Evil on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

I vote for death by Bacon!

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Do you know how long that takes? 60 years at least.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

define jihadist?

battleoflepanto1571 on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel.

LibTired on November 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM

We may never know if religion was a factor in the crucifixion since nobody actually said so. Well maybe some people did but we’d have to talk to the people who actually hammered the nails.

And that red cross on the crusaders’ flags was just a jaunty symbol that meant nothing.

And nobody really buys that virgins in heaven thing — some folks just like the idea of going boom!!!

IndieDogg on November 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM

MSM=lying rabble. Perhaps this human scum should have committed his atrocities in full garb with his prayer rug under his arm, maybe then it would be apparent. Hate to paint with such a broad brush but , religion of peace? really?

NY Conservative on November 6, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I try that every sat morning, hasnt worked. (yet)

Greed on November 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM

lol. same here.

Do you know how long that takes? 60 years at least.

keep the change on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Not if he’s covered in corn syrup and the pigs are slowly eating him alive.

elduende on November 6, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Fire doesn’t melt steel.

LibTired on November 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Tell that to The Dean…

catmman on November 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM

The guy was a mentally ill lone actor… he’s not a jihadist…

ninjapirate on November 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM

You are wrong. He may or may not have had ties to larger terrorist networks, but he was indeed a jihadist. You need to read some of Robert Spencer’s books. Or at least go to the website.

IrishEi on November 6, 2009 at 9:06 PM

And nobody really buys that virgins in heaven thing — some folks just like the idea of going boom!!!

IndieDogg on November 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Thanks, I really needed a good laugh! Peed my pants though.

katy the mean old lady on November 6, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Is this the same Chris – the tingle guy?

This is all about religion. Maybe violent form of religion. But for anyone to suggest otherwise is insane. Except Tingly fellow.

antisocial on November 6, 2009 at 9:06 PM

matthews is the KING of the dingbats, they being the left!

peoriaindian on November 6, 2009 at 9:07 PM

AP, why do you keep giving this vacuum air time. STOP watching the idiot. Fine targets closer to us who may be interested in our views. This guy is a piece of the Devil.

PaCadle on November 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Why is it that Obama and the MSM can’t admit that the reason for this was because this guy cared more about his Islamic faith than he did about the lives he took. He did not want to go to Iraq/Afghanistan to fight against a fellow Muslim, so he took the lives of Americans.

Why can’t they just say that it was religion?

If you can’t state the problem, then you can’t address it, and you cannot fix it.

texasconserv on November 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

We may never know if functioning synapses have anything to do with MSNBC.

malclave on November 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Remember this is the guy who “knows” racism is behind the Tea-party protests.

karlant on November 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

AP knocked it out with this one.

If this shooter had ever thought of attending a tea protest every conservative since Edmund Burke would be deemed culpable for his acts.

You get newsrooms filled with liberal people and the liberal perspective will affect their product. It’s unavoidable.

But they won’t – or can’t – admit it.

SteveMG on November 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM

where oh where is terryann is denounce all of this blatant racism on this thread????

Ghoul aid on November 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM

As of this moment, on the left side of HA, Ed’s got the yin, and AP’s got the yang, on the right side.

I go with AP.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

After a daylong tour of all the justifications being offered by the experts for the POS Hasan
I am still confused
1. Hasan was a shrink, so what made him assume that killing anyone was part of his job during deployment to Iraq ?
2. How can he suffer from PTSD when he has never seen combat ?
3. If islam and koran didn’t influence his killings, why did he hang out at jihadi websites ? Why did he pass out free korans ?
4. And whats up with Allahoakbar, killing other people and then not even killing himself ?

macncheez on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Holy Cross campus idiot.

Hening on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Uh, poverty? Nope, darn it.

Lack of education? Rats!

Unemployment? Drat!

No health care? Curses!

Conservative Republican? Has potential. After all they are just like the Taliban.

Islam? Can’t be that. It’s a religion of peace. Jihad is an interior spiritual struggle.

Jews at fault? Hmmmmm…. Maybe if we call them Zionists.

Must be PTSD!

/progressive ‘thought’ process

Beagle on November 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Is this the same Chris – the tingle guy?

This is all about religion. Maybe violent form of religion. But for anyone to suggest otherwise is insane. Except Tingly fellow.

antisocial on November 6, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Yes this is Chris Tingle who related his homosexual fantasies involving B. Hussein Osama on air.

Jerricho68 on November 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM

MSNBC is beside itself this guy wasn’t Baptist.

Marcus on November 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM

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