Asia Times: US threw Abdullah aside to retreat from Af-Pak theater
posted at 10:12 am on November 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The sudden withdrawal of Abdullah Abdullah from a runoff election against Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan has people scratching their heads. Abdullah himself cited security concerns in withdrawing from the race after fighting to have election irregularities recognized in Karzai’s apparent attempt to falsify the first round’s results. However, Asia Times reports today that the US negotiated Abdullah’s withdrawal as a way to negotiate with the Taliban and retreat from Afghanistan:
Abdullah Abdullah, who this week withdrew from the presidential election runoff in Afghanistan, thereby handing victory to the incumbent, Hamid Karzai, did so under pressure from the United States, Asia Times Online has learned.
In exchange for the pullout of the non-Pashtun Abdullah, Pakistan’s military has agreed to actively mediate between Washington and the Taliban over a reconciliation plan that will allow the US to exit from Afghanistan, as it is doing in Iraq, with a semblance of success. …
Apart from other senior officials, Clinton met with the chief of army staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kiani, and the director general of Inter-Services Intelligence, Lieutenant General Ahmad Shuja Pasha. It was agreed that all US-led negotiations with Abdullah, which included offering him the position of chief executive officer of Afghanistan, would stop, and Karzai would get full backing for a second five-year term.
It was also acknowledged that Washington’s political leadership, like the Pentagon, now accepts that the Taliban-led insurgency in Afghanistan is best tackled with contact between the Pakistan armed forces and the Taliban, and not by the political governments of the region.
Clinton’s visit came at a crucial time as Pakistan is engaged in a battle against the Pakistani Taliban and other militants; if it fails, there will be a cascading effect in the whole region and a sure defeat of American interests in Afghanistan.
Color me a bit skeptical on this front. Karzai is certainly a Pashtun, but he’s no darling of the Taliban. Karzai has been battling the Taliban every day since taking office, and his life has been threatened on a number of occasions by assassination plots and a couple of attempts. If the Taliban come back to power, Karzai is a dead man walking, and he knows it.
Nor does the Pakistani military appear to be a credible arbiter of peace negotiations, especially now when they’re in the middle of a large offensive against the Pakistani Taliban on their side of the border. The ISI could fill that role, given their well-known sympathies for the Taliban and the heavy infiltration of Islamists within the intelligence agency. But the deal the Asia Times describes sounds more like the US decided to leave Karzai in place to keep fighting the Taliban, not to retreat.
People tend to confuse Pashtun with Taliban; the Obama administration does this frequently when they speak of “moderate Taliban,” a mythical strain not found anywhere in reality. If the US wants to split the Pashtun from the Taliban in order to generate a duplicate of the Anbar Awakening from Iraq — where native Sunnis fought against al-Qaeda and Sunni insurgents switched sides — then having a Pashtun in charge makes a lot of sense. That would allow the US to have a smaller footprint eventually while marginalizing Mullah Omar and his band of lunatics. The withdrawal of Abdullah and his reported sympathies with India makes it easier for Pakistan to partner with the US and Karzai in that effort, too.
Asia Times knows better than to confuse Pashtun with Taliban, which is why this reporting is noteworthy, but their take on this development makes no sense otherwise. If the US did push Abdullah out of the picture, then we’re still playing long ball in Afghanistan, not looking for a quick exit.










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If O withdraws from Afghanistan, it would just prove to me that we not only elected an incompetent president, but a treasonous one as well.
nyx on November 6, 2009 at 10:14 AM
This is an extremely stupid idea for anyone with two brain cells. I hope the report in Asian Times is false.
nyx on November 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM
SmartStupid PowerPatriotRider on November 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Are we not looking for a quick exit?
What better cover for such a plan?
Karzai is confirmed as the newly elected President, so there is a political solution at hand. Then, the White House can say that a projected settlement between the new Karzai government and the Taliban is an internal Afghan affair and we shouldn’t meddle.
Pakistan and Kabul can arrive at their own solutions…we are merely serving as a recruiting tool for the jihadis. Anyone heard that meme before?
We pack up and leave, after declaring “victory.”
Asia Times is not known for going out on a limb. Perhaps they are able to see events without the Washington DC or US media self-imposed filters?
coldwarrior on November 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I thought Obama said it’s not our place to insinuate ourselves into other countries, and , or governments?
capejasmine on November 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Does Obama have to send Hershey bars and Snuggies to the Taliban before anyone recognizes he’s into aid and comfort to the enemy?
Daggett on November 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I already believe that. However….this just gives more evidence that Obama’s lack of conviction, in getting more troops into Afghanistan is all political, and not ethical on his part. How this man sleeps at night, I will never know!
capejasmine on November 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM
The jihadis are not going to leave when the US withdraws.They are going to enjoy the spoils. They are going to try to take over Afghanistan. Why would they try to blow up an Indian embassy if they are only against the US?
nyx on November 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I’ll believe it when I see it. Every single day this incompetent, Obama, dithers over sending reinforcements and addition troops, a request for which has been sitting on his desk for two and a half months, is a day of unnecessary danger for those in harm’s way.
TXUS on November 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM
This could all be put to rest if Ogabe would say that the U.S. is highly committed to victory and a stable, free Afghanistan, and we will drive out the terrorists with all the means at our disposal.
Alas, our President is concerned about his short game and needs to get some more practice with his chipping wedge, so maybe he’ll get around to Afghanistan next month.
Bishop on November 6, 2009 at 10:24 AM
There are still a lot of ISI sympathizers assisting the Taliban, hence the Indian embassy attack. India was and still is working to grow normal relations with Kabul. it is in their long-term strategic interests to do so. Elements within the Pak intel services see India as the major threat to Pakistan, and Pakistan’s national security structure is still focused on India, not jihadis.
It is my firm belief that the present US Administration will seize any possibility to make a hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan. The several months dithering as to addressing troop requirements on the ground in Afghanistan is a reflection of the White House’s desire to get out, not to commit further.
Using the guise of Karzai entering into “talks” with moderate talibanis seems a convenient out. Having an Abdullah Abdullah side-show mucking up the works would serve to be a roadblock to our pulling out sooner rather than later.
coldwarrior on November 6, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Retreat is the only thing this Admin knows….
Retreat from Afghanistan
Retreat from Iraq
Retreat from missile defence
Retreat from the economy
It’s a clear running theme with these guys. They are not fit to govern. Period.
JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I guess it is clear to most of the world that Obama doesn’t have a clue how to fix things.
I’m betting that the world won’t admit it but they are longing about now for the competence of George W. Bush. It must be pretty scary out there to have such a inept man in the role of most powerful man.
Too bad they came down so strongly against Bush. Now they are just dying to get him back but can’t say it.
petunia on November 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Obama = Treasonous, spineless, incompetent, amateur, disgraceful, lying PIECE OF SH*T!!!! IMPEACH!!!!!
Flyboy on November 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Given the atrocious presser yesterday and the whole Zelaya fiasco, I can totally believe this.
SouthernGent on November 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Just because a policy makes no sense it doesn’t mean Dear Liar wouldn’t implement it. It would only make no sense if you are looking at it from a pro-American viewpoint. I have no faith that The Whine is looking out for America’s sake.
rbj on November 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Where is his announcement on troop levels? They said he was waiting until after the election. There is no election. Where is his announcement?
sammypants on November 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Committing thousands of our men and woman into this theater is a tough tough call.
I can hear and understand the arguments on both sides – I really can.
Tough call – glad I don’t have to make it.
jake-the-goose on November 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM
If Pinnochio was going to give McChrystal the troops he requested he would have done so already.
He has OTHER plans
dhunter on November 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Not the Afghan election, silly………….his reelection bid in 2012.
The troops are fine until then, trust him.
Stupid right-wing extremists criticizing him over meaningless stuff…….
JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Impeach the Kenyan Marxist!
(my latest bumper sticker)
honsy on November 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM
“If…many influential people have failed to understand , or have just forgotten, what were up against in the Cold War and how we overcame it, they are not going to be capable of securing, let alone enlarging, the gains that liberty has made.” — Margaret Thatcher
OSUBuciz1 on November 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Holy crap, I mentioned this to my brother the other day but never blogged about it because I figured it was too conspiratorial. I thought that maybe the Obama administration never wanted a real election in Afghanistan, or the reform candidate to win, maybe they are looking for as many reasons as possible to leave Afghanistan. This would include making the environment so hopless and hostile that it looks like they have to leave (therefore saving political face).
Plerase don’t tell me I was actually right because this would be just criminal.
Daemonocracy on November 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Shameful.
Hening on November 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Obama sure knows how to play hardball with his *political* enemies…
It’s a pity he can’t muster his Chicago-style intensity for this nation’s enemies.
Abelard on November 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM
People, why is this a surprise? He’s a Democrat, and the Democrats make the French look powerful and brave.
Jeff from WI on November 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM
He never intended to stay and fight in Afghanistan. Never. To say that Afghanistan was the “necessary war” was just the easiest way to draw a distinction from Bush while condemning the “failure” in Iraq (manna for the nervous Left) and proving his nationals security seriousness (manna for the wavering moderates) at a critical moment. I’m not sure he’s a “calculating” liar so much as a natural one. He reminds me of the Islamics who practice the code of the necessary lie to further their goals. It’s part of the process and the higher purpose, both.
rrpjr on November 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM
So true. Too bad so many voters forget that so quickly and easily….
JoeinTX on November 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM
You know what’s weird?
When the moderate opposition candidate and more secular alternative to the ultra-religious Taliban (“Talib” meaning students — of Islam) is named “Slave of Allah Slave of Allah”. That’s weird.
Of course nothing going on anywhere in the world has anything to do with a political awakening in Islam, like the Islamic alternative to the UDHR, the Cairo Declaration (1990), all sharia all the time. That never happened, so never mind.
Another area we have trouble facing reality is when it comes to the Taliban being originally created and funded by a large faction of Pakistan’s ISI. You know, the guys we give billions of dollars to fight the Taliban which they roll into tanks and airplanes for fighting India.
I think the first step in any analysis should involve marshaling the actual facts. But that’s exactly what we carefully avoid.
Beagle on November 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Your analysis makes sense to me except that there’s no way Obama declares victory. No, he will say he is bringing peace to the region by the exercise of smart power and the idiots in the media who still support him will lap it up.
Basilsbest on November 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM
On further thought, yes, Obama would never declare Victory. He’d declare peace…and go on to more pressing matters…
And the media? They’d demand another Nobel Peace prize for The One.
coldwarrior on November 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM
But, running (away) is healthy for you! And it’s mandated in the new health guidelines, I’m sure. Pelosi, Obama, and Reid are just making sure they’ve got a head start.
Blacksmith on November 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM
There are so many bodies that have been thrown under Obama’s bus that those wheels quit actually reaching the road months ago.
wildcat84 on November 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Asia Times is a worthless peice of shit dominated by America hating Muslim writers and “reporters”. Just take a look at their other articles and news stories.
http://www.atimes.com
Why are we quoting them again?
dip it in cider on November 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I’d trust them about as far as I could throw them. Every last stinking one of them.
http://thereligionofpeace.com
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SilverStar830 on November 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
There’s a good reason why people use Pashtun and Taliban in the same breath. As Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based journalist who has written for both the Far East Economic Review and the Wall Street Journal says in the paperback edition of Taliban, published in 2001:
Abdullah Abdullah is a Tajik and was once the public face of Ahmed Shah Masood, the “Lion of the Panjshir Valley,” who was assassinated the week before 9/11. The Tajiks were the most formidable members of the Northern Alliance, the group the US partnered with to overthrow the Taliban in 2001.
In the north of the country, around Mazar-i-Sharif are the Uzbeks, led by Rashid Dostum. He’s the one who locked Taliban prisoners into shipping containers and left them to perish in the desert. He doesn’t get invited to Taliban parties.
At Bamiyan, formerly home of those Buddha statues, are the Hazara, descendents of Genghis Khan’s Mongol Horde, whom the Taliban tried to ethnically cleanse, they’re not in the Taliban club.
So saying Taliban, is tantamount to saying “Pashtun.”
As for Karzai…before he was elected President, he was chosen leader by a national tribal council – a Loya Jirga. He’s a gutsy guy , and whatever his failings appear to be today, he stood up in 2001, at the risk of his life, when a national leader was needed to avert a civil war after the fall of the Taliban government.
potkas7 on November 6, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Correction… the Loya Jirga was in 2002
potkas7 on November 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Or President Obama is that stupid.
exdeadhead on November 6, 2009 at 2:13 PM
So will Karzai be considered a job created or saved?
scituate_tgr on November 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM
“So will Karzai be considered a job created or saved?”
LOL ! scituate_tgr FTW !
nagee76 on November 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Ed,
The Asia Times correspondent who wrote this analysis is a Pakistani and sums up the situation really well.
That would allow the US to have a smaller footprint eventually while marginalizing Mullah Omar and his band of lunatics. The withdrawal of Abdullah and his reported sympathies with India makes it easier for Pakistan to partner with the US and Karzai in that effort, too.
Ed, a newsflash for you – Karzai is a friend of India too – we supported the Northern Alliance and Ahmed Shah Masood against the Taliban, in the period before 9/11.
When Karzai became President, India was pretty happy – he was and is India friendly.
So what has changed now? Karzai is pretty unpopular now and Abdullah would have had a better chance to make the Afghanistan people more confident in their democracy.
Pakistan wants ANYTHING BUT a stable and a democratic Afghanistan – that would naturally be pro-India. Hence it influences Obama to chuck Abdullah and keep the weak Karzai in power – an unpopular and weak pol remains in power, and Afghani faith in its democracy diminishes EVEN MORE – this is exactly what the Pakis want.
So,lets review – Abdullah is sidelined. Karzai is weak as a pony. And Obama wants to leave as soon as 2013, after winning re-election.
Pakistan steps in and says that it can “negotiate” between Washington and the Taliban – in other words, talk about handing power to the Taliban.. they will be asked to stop their attacks on US military in return – once “peace” returns, the US can leave in honor and “victory”.
Obama’s dithering on the troop level makes a lot of sense now. He is READY TO LEAVE and is preparing for withdrawal. Aided by Pakistan.
If the US did push Abdullah out of the picture, then we’re still playing long ball in Afghanistan, not looking for a quick exit.
How so ? If the US actively participated in pushing Abdullah from the picture, it means that it agrees with Pakistan. It means it does not care at all about how faith in democracy in Afghanistan is greatly diminished.
What longball are you guys playing when your President has been sitting on McChrystals recommendation for months now? If anything it tells me that the LAST THING Obama wants to do is to fight.
This article should seem more than plausible to long term observers of the region.
nagee76 on November 6, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Good post; good points.
coldwarrior on November 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM