25% of California “saved or created jobs” bogus

posted at 1:31 pm on November 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Count California as the latest victim of the Porkulus Flu, in which job numbers get excruciatingly inflated while the state runs a fever of unemployment.  The Sacramento Bee lances the “saved or created” boil of the Golden State’s stimulus accounting, thanks to a closer look at the claims made by the California State University system, which credited half of its workforce as “saved or created” jobs.  The CSU admitted that these were not real numbers — and inadvertently revealed what everyone already knows about budgeting in Sacramento and Washington DC:

Up to one-fourth of the 110,000 jobs reported as saved by federal stimulus money in California probably never were in danger, a Bee review has found.

California State University officials reported late last week that they saved more jobs with stimulus money than the number of jobs saved in Texas – and in 44 other states.

In a required state report to the federal government, the university system said the $268.5 million it received in stimulus funding through October allowed it to retain 26,156 employees.

That total represents more than half of CSU’s statewide work force. However, university officials confirmed Thursday that half their workers were not going to be laid off without the stimulus dollars.

“This is not really a real number of people,” CSU spokeswoman Clara Potes-Fellow said. “It’s like a budget number.”

It’s like a budget number.  In other words, unreal — not connected to reality.  We certainly have seen plenty of unreality in budgeting from California over the last year as they struggled to close a budget gap that was all too real, mainly by making up numbers and using budgetary gimmicks.

That also applies to the Obama administration, especially on Porkulus numbers.  All of them have been disconnected from reality, using silly formulas to claim credit for jobs that were never at risk in the first place.  Some of the jobs claimed as “saved” got raises funded by the federal government, which is the antithesis of a job at risk.  And as unemployment goes into double digits, it adds insult to injury for those increasing number of Americans who have lost their jobs.

Some people got federally-funded raises.  They got pink slips, in record numbers.

Let’s recap the nonsense from “saved or created” accounting by the Obama administration:

This is nothing short of a threadbare lie, one beginning to be exposed in every state where Obama and his team trots it out.  The national media needs to start holding them accountable for their fantasy bookkeeping — and Congress needs to pull back the funding for Porkulus right now.


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i cant stop laughing…

moonbatkiller on November 6, 2009 at 1:34 PM

They can’t even a statistic (“saved” jobs) that’s impossible to measure correct.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

get a statistic

God, you are so stupid.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Bozo’s propaganda is crumbling before his eyes. How much more bull dip can he sling before they really turn on him?

dogsoldier on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

The Corner on the National Review website has a good post regarding how many jobs were LOST because the government took $200 billion out of the economy in order to “create” jobs” via the stimulus.

Money not in the private economy is money that’s not available to private business to hire, etc.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Our kidding me? I’m sitting in an office that has about 1/3 of the staff it once had. My job is on the bubble.

The CA universities and junior colleges have all dropped hundreds of subjects causing kids to scramble. I’ve been told it takes, on average, 3 years to get a 2 year degree out here!

jbh45 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

We’ll see the “real” unemployment rate jump pretty soon as well because congress wants to extend benefits for another 20 weeks.

Then we’ll see how many jobs were “saved”.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The CA universities and junior colleges have all dropped hundreds of subjects causing kids to scramble. I’ve been told it takes, on average, 3 years to get a 2 year degree out here!

jbh45 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

That’s what we call:

Success! – crr6

and

Freedom! – Bleeds Blue

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

These clowns in the White House are acting like Soviet-Style leaders. They keep on lying, but now pretty much everybody knows that they are.

PatriotRider on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Laughing?

This isn’t funny…this is sick.

visions on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

i cant stop laughing…

moonbatkiller on November 6, 2009 at 1:34 PM

You must still have a job for the moment.

ElectricPhase on November 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

I lol’d.

p0s3r on November 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Hey, where’s the redhead??? I feel I personally know her by now.

PatriotRider on November 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM

visions on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

It’s criminal.

If Bush had done this exact same thing, we’d have congressional hearings. It’s be the lead story on news casts, etc. It’d be everywhere.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:42 PM

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

get a statistic

God, you are so stupid.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Congratulations, you are now qualified to work for this administration!

The square root of -1 is more real than any of these porkulus job numbers.

rbj on November 6, 2009 at 1:43 PM

hey I just bought a can of soda. does that mean I save 36 million jobs in the soda industry?

BruceB on November 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

This is a scandal and that the media refuses to pick up on it is unforgivable.

karlant on November 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Fantasy bookkeeping, nice way to put it Ed.

farright on November 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Hey, where’s the redhead??? I feel I personally know her by now.

PatriotRider on November 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM

She’s in the other thread, on the national 10.2% unemployment rate.

jwolf on November 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

And all jobs saved, pretend or not, seem to be government jobs. The rest of us stiffs are expected to keep paying taxes for these jobs from which no one is ever laid off from and who always get their raises no matter how bad the economy.

Blake on November 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Here in MI with jobs sloughing off faster than dead skin cells and dandruff, it’s safe to say we didn’t make the ‘saved or created’ catagory. Now stimulus $$ for budget patching….that list we might have made.

ZeeMI on November 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

I have an idea, let’s give them a crack at our healthcare. If you believe it, it must be true!

bloggless on November 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

They’re creating jobs alright… for factcheckers and mathmeticians who can find their mistakes.

ted c on November 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

The national media needs to start holding [the Obama administration] accountable for their fantasy bookkeeping.

Obama’s entire economic vision is sheer fantasy. It stands to reason that his bookkeeping follows suit. Can you imagine a debt counselor advising a struggling family to spend more in order to solve their financial problems?

jwolf on November 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

You forgot Illinois! The Tribune ran a front-page story earlier this week about the cooked porkalus books.

lizzieillinois on November 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

10.2%.

‘nuf said.

BardMan on November 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

President Liar and his band of axelrots.

bloggless on November 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM

J&J in the process of laying of more than 7% of its workforce and real unemployment numbers (including those who have given up looking for work) must be around 14%. But not to worry!

According Pelosi, these numbers don’t show an increase in unemployment; they show nothing more than an elimination of a decrease in unemployment.

LASue on November 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Time for an arithmetic czar.

txag92 on November 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM

For the record, as far as liberal slant/fabrications go, (with a few exceptions) the Sacramento Bee might as well be the New York Times.

Rovin on November 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

She’s in the other thread, on the national 10.2% unemployment rate.

jwolf on November 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Who’s the redhead?

UltimateBob on November 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Repeal the porkulus bill.
Make Plugs Biden testify and account for every dollar.
Hire an independent firm to conduct a full audit.
Then let the hearings begin.

Dem’s are toast in 2010.

Key West Reader on November 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

My bad — AP reports the real unemployment number is 17%.

LASue on November 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Any number would be bogus, and not just because of the “jobs saved” BS

Porkulus is a macroeconomic program. It was sold as a big dose of money being pumped into “the economy” as a whole which was supposed to keep unemployment at a max of 8% due to direct spending and “multiplier effect”.

So the only numbers that count are the net jobs gained or lost nationwide. We have lost 3 million jobs since it was passed, so we’re at minus 3 million jobs. Period.

Parsing through it to claim such-and-such program is employing X people is meaningless.

forest on November 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

“This is not really a real number of people,” CSU spokeswoman Clara Potes-Fellow said. “It’s like a budget number.”

“really a real” … Okay. I’m surprised she didn’t say, “really, really a real, true …”

Cannot the CSU system even find a spokesperson who can speak English? “really real” Great.

To kick a dead horse, this is flat-out fraud by both Califonia and the feral government, meant to deceive about the criminal theft that was the Porkulus. People should be impeached, prosecuted, and jailed over this.

progressoverpeace on November 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

It’s like a budget number.

No, it IS a bullshlt number.

fogw on November 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

For the record, as far as liberal slant/fabrications go, (with a few exceptions) the Sacramento Bee might as well be the New York Times.

It sure is.

Things are BAD in this state.

Bob's Kid on November 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Who’s the redhead?

UltimateBob on November 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

She’s the “leading unemployment indicator” in the pic Ed always shows in a thread about the national unemployment rate. She’s in the “cover picture” on the left side, about three stories down.

jwolf on November 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM

They can’t even a statistic (”saved” jobs) that’s impossible to measure correct.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

get a statistic

God, you are so stupid.

lorien1973 on November 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Be nice to lorien, lorien. I think you’re being too hard on him.

pxystick on November 6, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Propaganda is hard.

jukin on November 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

It occurred to me this morning the reason Pinnochio won the Nobel Peace Prize is that by refusing his General wishes to send 40,000 more US troops to the war zone Pinnochio saved or created thousands of Muslim Jihadis1

See that was EASY! Where’s my damn button? Hillary you got my sleezy button?

dhunter on November 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM

We’ll see the “real” unemployment rate jump pretty soon as well because congress wants to extend benefits for another 20 weeks.

Then we’ll see how many jobs were “saved”.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM


So in 20 weeks when all of those people move from the U3 to the U6, then the U3 will decrease and the administration will tout that as unemployment going down and the economy on the rebound (yet again) while ignoring that the U6 increased. Just like in July.

DoS_Conservative on November 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM

The square root of -1 is more real than any of these porkulus job numbers.

rbj on November 6, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Obama heard of these things called imaginary numbers, he said, they use them in math, so we can use them in OUR math!

uknowmorethanme on November 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM

How the Government distorts the price of….everything.

Business Insider

uknowmorethanme on November 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

People should be impeached, prosecuted, and jailed over this.

progressoverpeace on November 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Amen, bro (assuming you are a bro and not a sista). Those players-at-the-game-of-politics who are thinking of this in terms of the 2010 elections are ignoring the fact that Osama Obama’s lies translate into real people who have lost/are losing their jobs, risk homelessness and starvation.

I’m not sure which concerns me more: the very real possibility of uprisings by those who have had their lives damaged by the Traitor-in-Chief or the very real possibility of uprisings by those who have had enough of Unconstitutional power grabs by Obama and Congress.

MrScribbler on November 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM

He’s a liar. Pure, and simple. I’m not shocked, but I am angry! The mere fact that the msm’s continue to be complicit in this shows 2 things. 1. This administration, and their goons in Congress are less about caring about the citizens of this country, and 2. The msm’s are less about caring about the citizens of this country, and hell bent on helping destroy it.

capejasmine on November 6, 2009 at 2:37 PM

hey I just bought a can of soda. does that mean I save 36 million jobs in the soda industry?

BruceB on November 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

No, you only save 36 million jobs if you spring for the 20 oz bottle. A can of soda saves about 20 million jobs. In other words you cost 16 million jobs by your beverage size choice!

highhopes on November 6, 2009 at 2:37 PM

It’s fraud. Time to invoke the False Claims Act. Against the White House itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Claims_Act

starboardhelm on November 6, 2009 at 2:40 PM

MrScribbler on November 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Bro, it is. I find this all quite amazing, as fraudulent reporting like this would be enough to land anyone in the private sector in jail. To attach this fraud to hundreds of billions of PUBLIC funds should make it that much worse. … Of course, none of the criminals over at Fannie Mae really paid a legal price, but that doesn’t mean that the straw that breaks the camel’s back, finally, is not about to be placed. One would imagine that outright and intentional fraud with almost $800 billion should be about it …

progressoverpeace on November 6, 2009 at 2:43 PM

I’m not sure which concerns me more: the very real possibility of uprisings by those who have had their lives damaged by the Traitor-in-Chief or the very real possibility of uprisings by those who have had enough of Unconstitutional power grabs by Obama and Congress.

MrScribbler on November 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Why do you think they were so appalled by what happened in Honduras? Think they saw that and the TEA Parties and… got scared?

dominigan on November 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM

10.2%.

‘nuf said.

BardMan on November 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Actually the real unemployment number is 17.5%. The unreported +7.3% are those that have become disenfranchised and are no longer looking for a job.

dominigan on November 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM

I have to believe, or at least hope, that each of the repetitive disclosures of Obama, Pelosi and Reid lies, pushes a few addition hundreds of people over the edge into understanding how deeply evil the radical liberals are, and how much damage they intend to inflict on our great country.

GaltBlvnAtty on November 6, 2009 at 2:57 PM

I have it from unimpeachable sources that MA included Senator Mark Kirk (replaced the late, but not lamented Ted Kennedy) as a job created or saved.

Big Nicholas on November 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM

The national media needs to start holding them accountable for their fantasy bookkeeping — and Congress needs to pull back the funding for Porkulus right now.

Snort!

mr.blacksheep on November 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Bozo and his commie friends are idiots when it comes to “job creation”.

… or maybe their goals are really job destruction.

Congratulations, SEIU and all the Thuggish Unions in the former land of milk and honey! You are succeeding in turning America into 3rd world country. Soon enough, we will be totally just the same (equal) with Cuba and the rest of the Dictatorial Socialist Latin America!

TheAlamos on November 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Come on, you expected REALITY from California? Sacramento is talking about floating bonds worth BILLIONS to pay for a new network to deliver water supplies. Exit question: WHO is going to buy those bonds?

GarandFan on November 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Come on, you expected REALITY from California? Sacramento is talking about floating bonds worth BILLIONS to pay for a new network to deliver water supplies. Exit question: WHO is going to buy those bonds?

GarandFan on November 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Surely liberals will?

mr.blacksheep on November 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Can’t wait until they try to count the 2010 census…

TN Mom on November 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Two possibilities:

1. Gross Incompetence

2. Profoundly Dishonest

I’m going with 2.

marklmail on November 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

“This is not really a real number of people pink slip,” CSU spokeswoman Clara Potes-Fellow said. “It’s like a budget number an irrevocable order to find employment somewhere else.”

ya2daup on November 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

There are no miscalculations, intentional evasion or errors in any states’ reports of the Porkulus Package’s influence on employment. Remember, they projected an economic multiplier for government spending of 1.5x and recipients are showing that it is so, by gum!

ya2daup on November 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

hey I just bought a can of soda. does that mean I save 36 million jobs in the soda industry?

BruceB on November 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

No, you only save 36 million jobs if you spring for the 20 oz bottle. A can of soda saves about 20 million jobs. In other words you cost 16 million jobs by your beverage size choice!

highhopes on November 6, 2009 at 2:37 PM

WOW! I just bought 3 twelve packs of Coke. They had a deal 3 for $10.50 I must of saved a gajillion jobs!

Jeff from WI on November 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Sooooo….

If I push you aside to “save” you from a charging hippo,even though there isn’t a hippo within 100 miles of here and you have 0% danger of being trampled by a hippo I should be congratulated for saving this life.

You were saved from a danger that does not exist.

kurtzz3 on November 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

I really wish the term “saved or created” had been around for W.’s administration. I can think of no end of mischief pols can cause with such non-numbers. Fuzzy math, indeed.

alwaysfiredup on November 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM

If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times…

.

If you are incapable of Dazzling ‘em with Brilliance; Baffle ‘em with Bull$hit! -Barackus Hubris Maximus *hail caesar* et. al.

.

SilverStar830 on November 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Two possibilities:

1. Gross Incompetence

2. Profoundly Dishonest

I’m going with 2.

marklmail on November 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I’m going with both 1 and 2

Confutus on November 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM

$10,000 per head? Gee, working for CSU must be pretty damn as paying jobs go. Even at half the number of jobs $20,000 per head is still severely underpaid.

{^_^}

herself on November 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM

In the private sector this type of reporting, even involving much smaller sums, results in jail terms, why is no one being charged?

Over50 on November 7, 2009 at 8:45 AM