Video: 12 Truths about the Pelosi Plan

posted at 11:38 am on November 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Starting today at 1 pm ET, the Republican Party will run a 12-hour marathon to educate people about the 12 truths of the Pelosi Plan for ObamaCare. When they arranged this, they couldn’t have guessed that Pelosi would call for a vote on a bill less than 48 hours after they finish their broadcast at GOP.com — even while the 1990-page bill gets changes and additions. Mike Pence invites people to interact, via e-mail and Twitter, to get their questions answered:

Welcome to “Pelosi Plan Exposed: 12 Truths about PelosiCare and Republican Alternatives.” Over the course of 12 hours we will take an in-depth look at the Pelosi health care bill set for a vote in the U.S. House of Representatives in the coming days. We will also explore common-sense Republican alternatives and explain why they will give the American people the health care reform they need and deserve.

This will be a 12-hour live online telecast beginning at 1pm ET on Thursday, November 5, 2009.

What about the alternative? The New York Post reports on the new GOP plan to reform the health-care system, and it comes in at about an eighth of the length of the Pelosi Plan:

A 230-page draft was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. A spokeswoman for Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said changes were still being made before the bill would be finalized in time to offer as an alternative when Democrats begin floor debate on their bill, possibly at the end of this week.

The bill leaves out a number of the key features of the Democrats’ 1,990-page legislation, such as new requirements for employers to insure their employees and for nearly all Americans to purchase insurance. It also doesn’t block insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing health conditions, as Democrats would do.

Instead, the Republican plan increases incentives for people to use health savings accounts, caps non-economic jury awards in medical malpractice cases at $250,000, provides various incentives to states with the aim of driving down premium costs and allows health insurance to be sold across state lines.

“As Leader Boehner has made clear, our proposal will focus on the No. 1 concern of the American people — reducing health care costs, and we do it at a price tag our nation can afford,” said spokeswoman Antonia Ferrier, though Republicans have not said how much their bill would cost.

It’s not perfect, but it goes in the right direction.  The proper reform would be to strip the tax benefits of employer-based health plans and encourage people to buy catastrophic insurance directly, while using HSAs to pay for routine medical costs themselves.  That would allow real pricing mechanisms to control actual costs, solve overuse, and encourage innovation in retail medicine.

Note that the Republicans actually attack one significant (but not primary) inflater of actual costs: malpractice abuse.  Capping non-economic awards or punitive damages (as is already the case in California) takes the profit motive out of ambulance-chasing.  The CBO estimated that such a reform would save the industry over $135 billion over 10 years and reduce deficit spending by $54 billion over the same period. Democrats, in thrall to the trial-lawyers lobby, won’t even consider this common-sense action.

Be sure to tune in, but not during the 3-4 pm ET period, where we’ll be doing a Melt the Phones segment on TEMS.  We’ll be calling Congressional offices to tell them to vote no on the Pelosi plan.

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Hmmm anyone else worried?

upinak on November 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Its time for a shadow government.

The current members are no longer legitimate.

Not a revolution, just a nice, solid flush with a few swishes of the brush to dislodge the “hangers on”.

BobMbx on November 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

13. Pelosi sucks ass.
This is called the “Pelosi Plan.”
Therefore, this plan sucks ass.

bighead4 on November 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

KILL THE PLAN
Give it no mercy

nyx on November 5, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Help Sarah!
Fire off another Facebook entry and sink this Titanic (Dem Rippoff of the Taxpayer Bill) it keeps arising from the dead and will make us all poor, then dead if it passes!

dhunter on November 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Hmmm anyone else worried?

upinak on November 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Worry has been a pit in my stomach since last November.

capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Be sure to tune in, but not during the 3-4 pm ET period, where we’ll be doing a Melt the Phones segment on TEMS. We’ll be calling Congressional offices to tell them to vote no on the Pelosi plan.

Ed, I will be at work with no internet access at that time but I do have a phone and would LOVE to participate. Any ideas?

VegasRick on November 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I don’t see Pelosi going anywhere with this. She has said “I have the votes” now 2-3 times, and she wound up with a teabag on her face, which improved it a bit, but did nothing for her agenda.

ted c on November 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I am worried. I know the Democrats always say they have the votes, but Hoyer said that today and it scares me. Any news on the Bachmann meeting in Washington today? Wonder how many showed up?

sandee on November 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

“I will sign no bill that adds one dime to the deficit. . .”
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U-LYE

BigAlSouth on November 5, 2009 at 11:52 AM

… even while the 1990-page bill gets changes and additions.

It’s over 2,000 pages now. They’ve recently added an amendment to it.

Enoxo on November 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM

2,000 pages x 435 congresscritters = How many dead trees, Nancy?

Christien on November 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

VegasRick on November 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

When I am at work and can’t call D.C. I call the local offices of Congress.

Cindy Munford on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I wish Pence would run for Prez. Seriously.

Edouard on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I am worried. I know the Democrats always say they have the votes, but Hoyer said that today and it scares me. Any news on the Bachmann meeting in Washington today? Wonder how many showed up?

sandee on November 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Someone on a different thread said their inlaws were there, and the crowd was large, and friendly! :D

capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Spiffy website.

ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Hmmm anyone else worried?

upinak on November 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

If it comes up for a vote, it will pass. No way they let it go forward unless they have their members in line.

Asher on November 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

She’ll get it passed. This is a direct response to the Tuesday elections. They don’t dare let those outcomes fester too long without a counterpunch. Blue dogs get thrown over the side.

a capella on November 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

We know the gutter and we know the stink of the street
For not much longer will we press through your festering heat
All you tyrants who tower above us
You who give us the smack of your rod
Soon now we will give you the gutter
We will give you the judgment of God!

The world may be ugly, but each man must do what he must
Give in overreaching tyrants or in a year you will be dust
Soon now our Lady of Justice will possess you
In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed
She will tingle your spines as she captures your hearts and your heads!

PercyB on November 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Spiffy website.

ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM

And it matters what the website looks like because….

Attack the plan not the website? You can’t attack the plan because it makes more sense than Botox’s piece of $h!t

Brat4life on November 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Spiffy website.

ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM

That picture is really unflattering.

sammypants on November 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

When I am at work and can’t call D.C. I call the local offices of Congress.

Cindy Munford on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I can call DC at work. I was just wondering about the plan. Thanks for the advice.

VegasRick on November 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

It’s not perfect, but it goes in the right direction. The proper reform would be to strip the tax benefits of employer-based health plans and encourage people to buy catastrophic insurance directly, while using HSAs to pay for routine medical costs themselves.

–Employers will not like this. The plans offered by most employers are exempt from state regulations about what benefits must be offered.

Jimbo3 on November 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM

The GOP bill is tolerable, but it exists merely to draw a contrast between it and PelosiCare.

The important thing is to kill PelosiCare.

OhioCoastie on November 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM

LAWS RATTLING WITH ERRORS AND MISTAKES ARE NOT LAWS TO BE OBEYED

mooseburger on November 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM


CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, ANYONE?

mooseburger on November 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Truth #13: The Pelosi Plan will cause more deaths than AIDS, Swine Flu, Heart Disease and Cancer combined.

Tommy_G on November 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Oh, make no mistake. If this abomination passes, there will be outright revolt in America.

Edouard on November 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

It will pass.

I hope I’m wrong (and I will break out the champagne if I am).

Missy on November 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I’m really starting to take a hard look at Pence!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM

It is still, in my opinion, part of the drama.

The House bill won’t be the final bill.

It’s just the Pelosi bill. If she’s got the votes, fine.

But that’s where the Senate comes in.

Anyway, much ado about nothing.

AnninCA on November 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Oh, make no mistake. If this abomination passes, there will be outright revolt in America.

Edouard on November 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

More so for the members of AARP, (Armed And Really Pissed)!

milwife88 on November 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Video: the magic of split screen: Pelosi announces government health care bill, citizens discuss misery of government H1N1 vaccination program — http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/simulcast-democrats-announce-government.html

Mervis Winter on November 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM

She’ll get it passed. This is a direct response to the Tuesday elections. They don’t dare let those outcomes fester too long without a counterpunch. Blue dogs get thrown over the side.

a capella on November 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I’m lost here. I understand that they need to do something to try and change the narrative of Tuesday, but the logic of this is strange. She didn’t have the votes for it until now (presumably) and part of the reason for the rout on Tuesday was at least in part due to the Dems overreach on things just like this. So, they plan to save themselves by driving the knife in their gut deeper? That’s where they lose me – UNLESS, the House Dems have been told that this is basically just for show and that the final bill (if there is one) won’t resemble her’s at all. It’s almost like they’re positioning themselves for it’s ultimate failure by losing on a bill that goes whole hog vs. a watered down “compromise”.

volnation on November 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM

WIKI: Mike Pence was mentioned as a possible candidate for President in 2008. However, he did not run for President. In June 2009, an MSNBC political blog listed him as one of a dozen or so possible Republican candidates for President in 2012.[3] That month, the Des Moines Register reported that he planned to visit the Cedar Rapids, Iowa area in late July.[4] Iowa has the first caucus in early 2012, before the primaries in other states.

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 5, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Hmmm anyone else worried?

upinak on November 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Worry has been a pit in my stomach since last November.

capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Me too, but the real action being taken by conservatives has somewhat eased it. Let’s melt those lines!

Jvette on November 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, ANYONE?

mooseburger on November 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

What an unchristian thing to suggest.

ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Foxnew.com is live streaming the rally in DC.

Brat4life on November 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Me too, but the real action being taken by conservatives has somewhat eased it. Let’s melt those lines!

Jvette on November 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I agree – this beast isn’t law yet. And even if it passes the House, then it’s a looooong way from Obama’s desk. This really is a lose/lose for the Dems; a House vote gets them on record voting for many items that will come back to bite them, yet they “have” to in order to prop O and Co. How Pelosi has the votes from fellow Dems when a “yes” will sign their political death warrant is beyond me. Must be some serious horse trading going on behind closed doors.

volnation on November 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Must be some serious horse trading going on behind closed doors.

volnation on November 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM

More like thumbscrews, I’m afraid.

Missy on November 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Cliff the mailman (John Ratzenberger) is on the mic at the Rally right now.

kingsjester on November 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Now its Jon Voight.

kingsjester on November 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I’m surprised the GOP hasn’t done this before. There are a lot of Republican congressmen there. I’m surprised. I thought it would just be Bachman.

Brat4life on November 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Hmmm anyone else worried?

upinak on November 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Worry has been a pit in my stomach since last November.

capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

+1 Is there such a thing as political depression?

thevastlane on November 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM

She added an attachment for ‘management’ = 2790+ pages now…

Plus, she shut down cameras for today and Saturday’s vote will be “closed door”.

This was going to be the most “transparent” congress and adminstration in history.

Weasels go have a party. Pelosi/Reid represent you well.

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM

She = Pelosi, ‘the smartest woman in the world’, right after Hillary….

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Is congress in session? If it is and they are in there then burn the place down!
The real Patriots are outside, the Domestic Terrorists hide in the Halls of Congress!

dhunter on November 5, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I wish Pence would run for Prez. Seriously.

Edouard on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Ditto! I am more impressed with him every time I see him.

silvernana on November 5, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Ernesto you wouldn’t recognize a Christian thing when it punched you in the face.

daesleeper on November 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I wish Pence would run for Prez. Seriously.

Edouard on November 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Ditto! I am more impressed with him every time I see him.

silvernana on November 5, 2009 at 12:45 PM

I love Pence! I agree with htis!!!

deidre on November 5, 2009 at 1:09 PM

She added an attachment for ‘management’ = 2790+ pages now…
Plus, she shut down cameras for today and Saturday’s vote will be “closed door”.
Schadenfreude on November 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Anyone think about what might happen if they put this up for a vote and it FAILS? Either they have this in the bag and it could 10k pages and still pass or they don’t know whether they have the votes are simply going all in and throw caution to the wind. Some have suggested that when things got tough that Obama would throw a fit; I think what we’re seeing now (forcing passage of Pelosicare) are the first signs of his tantrum and that’s he seems to be coming unglued.

volnation on November 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Live streaming of the ‘House Call’ protest & speeches
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx

rayra on November 5, 2009 at 1:42 PM

ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM

By your rationale, Martin Luther King Jr. was un-Christian for suggesting civil disobedience in his day.

Aim any fire hoses lately?

Ryan Gandy on November 5, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I’ve been listening to this broadcast, and its pretty interesting. Not “exciting”, but I like how they are taking questions from all over, and have leaders in the House/Senate showing up to offer their take on things, etc. All lead by Pence, who I am becoming more interested in every time I hear him speak. :)

Highlar on November 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16566

Canadian press still free!
There’s hope at the end if you can make it that far without dieing of dispare.

dhunter on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM

oops dispair

dhunter on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM

This bill is reckless, bloated and loaded with 111 new bureaucracies, commissions and programs. And how many government employees will we need to fill all these federal agencies? Remember, all the GDP growth that recently occurred was ONLY in the public sector? Looks like this administration wants to use this plan as a vehicle to just grow this government even more.

pjean on November 5, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Mike Pence always does a rock solid job. The should be the next POTUS.

nottakingsides on November 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM

I do not understand why Hot Air does not have any coverage of the House Call at the Capital today?

Buckeye Babe on November 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

We are going to have to work hard to remove the Democrats from the majority of both houses, elect as many real Conservatives we can possible, and reverse the damage already inflicted by the Liberals.

The constitutionality of the bill, the mandates contained within, etc. need to be challenged in federal court. If nothing else, Term limits needs to be added to the Constitution to keep boneheads from serving so long that they think they can rule like tyrants instead of governing like servants.

itzWicks on November 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM