Jimbo3 on November 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Jimmah, can you sing the obama tune and dance , at the end of a plow line at the same time? Soon very soon.

Probably coincidence, but it seems like a plane always manages to crash or there’s some big scandal coming out of Hollywood or something…

Is this the mountain you want to die upon?
To pass a Government ruination of the finest healthcare known to man, to raise fees and taxes and costs excessively on your constituents who entrusted you with their vote?

To put your name to a bill that effectively socializes and destroys medicine for the most vulnerable among us. Abill that puts Governemnt ahead of doctors and patients in the decision of who gets what treatment?

Is this the mountain you want to die upon for a miserable failure of a man who in nine months has aleinated our overseas friends, has sold out our troops, has tanked our economy, devalued our dollar, put a record number of Americans in the unemployment lines and is going to be a one term worst president ever in the history of the country?

If so vote for this bill secure in the knowledge you will be gone from your cushy job and will be a pariah in your communities forever!

If Michael Steele has any hope of redemption in his current position, he should be mobilizing the party to fight this fight to the bitter end, and if necessary, start raising money for ads to run from now to November 2010.

This is a no-brainer for lovers of freedom and liberty. If we don’t push this back now, the cost of doing so down the line will be much, much higher.

–Why am I thinking about those Sprint commercials that describe what happens when roadies fly planes or when firemen run Congress?

Why am I thinking of that Alec Baldwin movie where he said something like, “Those patients are praying to me. I am god.”

Please save us Mr. Lawyer. It’s all just so complex.

Ed, I read the extended version of the Stand in one weekend. But then again, not as many people died in the Stand as will die because of this bill.

The_Lid on November 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Try reading it for content next time, rather than for speed.

Well over 99.4% of the world’s entire population is killed early on in The Stand. The survivors were little more than a rounding error.

If you’re contending that more than that will be killed by this bill, you need your head examined, STAT.

and I’ve been told that will knock us out, even though it was “cured” three or four years ago.

That is why you need to talk to a professional. Read the link I posted.

Under HIPAA, a plan is allowed to look back only 6 months for a condition that was present before the start of coverage in a group health plan. Specifically, the law says that a preexisting condition exclusion can be imposed on a condition only if medical advice, diagnosis, care, or treatment was recommended or received during the 6 months prior to your enrollment date in the plan.

(Emphasis mine)

6 months – not 3 or 4 years. Someone is playing on your fears.

Jimbo – I think the solutions to your particular problem may already exist in our current system. You seem to be a reasonable man, please consider that this & the Baucus bill is not about insurance – it is about health care. Please take the time to read the bills and the changes the will bring about to compensation to providers of the poor, it is written to starve off the providers who care for the poor. If the charity and medicare/medicaid hospitals/clinics/providers and the DSH shut down the system will be overwhelmed. All the “free” health insurance in the world won’t matter if you can’t get the care.

I like Jimbo. He’s the only one of our lefties who routinely argues with facts and is rarely insulting or demeaning, even when others treat him that way.

BadgerHawk on November 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I guess you missed it when he called me and me a “yellow bellied coward” in another thread.

It is not so that government agencies alone get “bloated”, that is the iron law of all organizations that all organizations tend to maximize themsleves – just take a quick look at the republican party – it seems to have a leadership that is both powerful and ineffective, ramming through an insane pick like Scozzafava. Look at major corporations that take government bailouts , still lose money and let their upper management spend the company’s money like there was no tomorrow. All organizations want bigger budgets, greater jurisdictions, more perks for management etc. It is inescapable and a part of the human condition.

What to do then? The answer is a cycle of construction-growth-stagnation-destruction: We can’t solve the problem once and for all but we can solve it for a generation or two and then the process has to begin again. Maybe this is a good thing too bc that gives every new generation the chance have its reformers. National health service could very well be the solution for our time. Maybe in the future there will be less poverty in america so we won’t need it, then it can go, or more likely alot of more poverty and it will be an integral part of keeping the social peace – in essence buying off the less fortunate so they don’t rebell and start taking their share by force. The alternative would be to use the solution of the past – to pay a portion of the poor to kill off another portion of the poor, and I can’t really call that better alternative. I want a society of peace and quiet and if it takes higher taxes to buy off the poor then that is a cheap price to pay for not getting my throat slit. Do you have a better solution?

“It reminds me of Major Nicholson, the obsessed British major in the film ‘Bridge on the River Kwai,’” one Democrat told me. “She is fixated on finishing her health care bridge even as she’s lost sight of where it’s going and what damage it could cause to her own troops.”

Nancy is delusional.

I like Jimbo. He’s the only one of our lefties who routinely argues with facts and is rarely insulting or demeaning, even when others treat him that way.

However, I completely agree that lawyers like Jimbo, with the mindset that the government can realistically do whatever they feel like to us, are driving this country off a cliff. Doctors, Engineers, and veterans should be filling the ranks of Congress.

I also agree that it often feels like we have to spend our free time calling our representatives just to keep them from slowly taking our freedoms away. There’s something scary about that.

BadgerHawk on November 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM

–Why am I thinking about those Sprint commercials that describe what happens when roadies fly planes or when firemen run Congress?