Did Obama throw Zelaya under the bus?
posted at 2:25 pm on November 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
If you thought the White House response to the crisis in Honduras was confused before yesterday, you’ll need a scorecard to figure it out now. After successfully imposing American will on Honduras to return Manuel Zelaya to the presidency, the Obama administration apparently reversed course and told the Hondurans that we would recognize their elections this month whether Zelaya was back in office or not. Zelaya sent a plaintive request for clarification from underneath the bus:
Ousted President Manuel Zelaya is asking the Obama Administration why, after pressing for his reinstatement, it now says it will recognize upcoming Honduran elections even if he isn’t returned to power first.
In a letter sent to the U.S. State Department on Wednesday, Zelaya asked Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton “to clarify to the Honduran people if the position condemning the coup d’etat has been changed or modified.”
His request came after Washington’s top envoy to Latin America, Thomas Shannon, told CNN en Espanol that Washington will recognize the Nov. 29 elections even if the Honduran Congress decides against returning Zelaya to power.
A U.S.-brokered deal reached last week leaves Zelaya’s reinstatement in the hands of Congress, but sets no deadline as to when lawmakers must decide. Delays in the expected vote have generated fears in the Zelaya camp.
The threat from Obama to Honduras was entirely predicated on recognition of their national elections. Even though all of the political parties had agreed to proceed with the regular election — even Zelaya’s party — the White House warned that sanctions would continue indefinitely, even after the country picked Zelaya’s successor. Without that threat, Honduras would have ignored attempts to mediate the crisis and agree to returning Zelaya to the country at all, let alone to the presidency for the few weeks left in his term.
Now, the Honduran Parliament that unanimously authorized Zelaya’s removal has no particular reason to reinstate him. Zelaya knows that, which is why he’s demanding an answer from Hillary Clinton over his abandonment by the US. Thus far, he seems to be the only one who doesn’t realize that the entire affair has embarrassed the US, particularly since the Law Library of Congress report that concluded that Honduras acted legally to remove Zelaya and didn’t conduct a “coup”.
State Department Ian Kelly says the US is now focused on having the Honduran people resolve the issue themselves:
In Washington, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said Wednesday that the United States considers what happened in Honduras a coup and that Zelaya should be reinstated, but he said the focus now should be on implementing last week’s deal between the ousted president’s representatives and the interim government of Roberto Micheletti.
“We’ve made our position on President Zelaya and his restitution clear. We believe he should be restored to power,” Kelly said. “Our focus now is on implementing this process and creating an environment wherein Hondurans themselves can address the issue of restitution and resolve for themselves this Honduran problem.”
Which is exactly what the US position should have been all along.










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The old Obama promise and expiration date got another one. Tough luck, Zelaya baby.
jwolf on November 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
I think that would be a double reversal half gainer.
Amadeus on November 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
First we were yanking missile defense in E. Europe, then we weren’t… and Honduras also gets a taste of the amateur hour that is the Obama foreign policy. Smart power!
evergreen on November 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
is there a url or a zip code from that area? It’s gotta be dark and crowded these days….
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Ed, You make it sound as if that isn’t standard operating procedure…
ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM
With Friends like Obama, who needs enemies.
Is Obama the Batman Villain Two-Faced?
portlandon on November 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Maybe the Jews are shooting confusion rays at Obama and Hillary.
Daggett on November 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Obama just figured out that you can’t be doin’ illegal things if you don’t have the congress to back you up… which he just discovered he won’t.
Skywise on November 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
yeah, welcome to our world. ‘Cept that “real” Americans started out under Obama’s bus and have stayed there.
At least he’s perfectly consistent with us. He’s only inconsistent with thuggish Central American dictators….at least today anyway….
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Like in Iran and NK?
a capella on November 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Thunk Thunk Thunk
The wheels of the bus go round and round.
nyx on November 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM
+10
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM
I think Obama spins a wheel in his office each day to decide what he believes in that day…
right2bright on November 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Regardless, props to O for abandoning Zelaya which should have been the proper response to the conflict.
nyx on November 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Reset!
a capella on November 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM
+1, good show!
classicaliberal on November 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM
A rudderless ship is not a bus. Captain, you should know better. : ))
Angry Dumbo on November 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM
That it took Obama and Hillary so long to arrive at such an obviously simple conclusion proves how INEPT this administration really is, for shame.
Free World, watch and learn. These are fools who don’t wish for your freedom.
Schadenfreude on November 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM
MB4 on November 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM
He’s on his hearts and minds global tour, pissing everyone off.
the_nile on November 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I’m beginning to think that Obama was confused and thought he was getting Manny Ramirez reinstated instead.
Mr. D on November 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Good Lord…
Them people under that them thar bus looks like a mountain. I can’t recognize anyones face anymore.
But why does the bus look small up on that peek? And why does the mountainous mob quizer and move as though they are grabbing the bus?
Oh.. I see… Nightmare on Obama’s street. Gotcha!
upinak on November 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Good point, ernesto.
Ed, go with “After successfully imposing anti-American will on Honduras.”
Patrick S on November 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM
So was the aid that he cut of to those folks added to the saved and created list? Not impressive.
Cindy Munford on November 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
thank God for the Constitution that limits the power of this man. It’s strainin’ on its amendments right now….
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
The adults are in charge!
Cicero43 on November 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
We may not have succeeded, but we’re certainly trying.
ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM
More comedy gold
Obama as bus driver, pulls one lever and the door closes, the next one and the floor drops out….
where is THAT on SNL..?!
We need a RIGHT WING SNL!!!! SHOUT IT OUT
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Someone please make this administration be clear!
WashJeff on November 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Given the almost-daily flip-flops and reversals, we have to ask: Is Obama’s most trusted advisor his Magic 8 Ball?
PackerBronco on November 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
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Where is Zelaya now? Still in the Brazilian Embassy? In the Presidential mansion? Will he have control of a “brownshirt” Hitler style SA or SS to put him in office? Will the police and Army back him? Or will they put him in jail when he shows up? Was the U.S. aid package to Honduras reinstated? Will Hugo Chavez or Castro send in “peacekeepers” when the election results are announced?
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Curiouser and Curiouser
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John Bibb
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rocketman on November 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Yeah, but in the past we weren’t usually on the side of the dictator wannabe.
BadgerHawk on November 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Like a Somali pirate ship.
Angry Dumbo on November 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Is the list of people he hasn’t thrown under the bus now shorter than the list of those he has?
ya2daup on November 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Expiration dates…… Barry’s got ‘em!
omnipotent on November 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Obama was against Honduras before he was for it! The statute of limitations on Obama’s support of Zelaya ran out. Hey drug companies! You know, Big Pharma? Are you listening? It doesn’t pay to make deals with Obama.
Christian Conservative on November 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Obama on Iran:
but Honduras…
WashJeff on November 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM
“Oh wheel of decision, turn, turn, turn.
Tell us the person that we should burn.”
Count to 10 on November 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM
I thought Rahm’s nickname was “Tiny Dancer”
ya2daup on November 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Obama foreign policy: Coup Coup for Coca Puffs
Christien on November 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Indecision may or may not be The Precedent’s problem.
OhioCoastie on November 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM
r2b, I think Obama uses that “Magic 8 ball” we used to use back in…well, a lot of years ago.
marybel on November 5, 2009 at 2:44 PM
What we have here is a bunch of flippin MORONS in the White House and State Department. Time to bring in the adults, the children have run amuck!
glennbo on November 5, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Amateur night at the Roxy.
Mason on November 5, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Zelaya is under the bus, but zer0bama clearly ran him over instead of just tossing him under it.
SouthernGent on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I think we’d get more intelligence out of an amoeba than we’re getting from this President.
capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
First he’s got to decide whether he’s indecisive or dithering
ya2daup on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
we have to ask: Is Obama’s most trusted advisor his Magic 8 Ball?
What a great name for Rahm. He’s the magic eight ball with size 7 capezio slippers.
His eight ball would have all marxist phrases: workers of the world unite, ask Castro, get back to me later, is your neighbor a threat to the state?, redistribute, check with Mao, etc.
It’s getting crowded under the bus with all those Poles, Israelis, Iranian freedom fighters, the american army in Afghanistan, grandma….
Haunches on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Obama: “Quick, Hillary, get a button with ‘reset’ written on it in Honduran and rush down there!”
red winger on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I’ve got no constitutional strings
To hold me down
To make me fret, or make me frown
I once had some constitutional strings
But now I’m completely free
There are no longer any constitutional strings on me
Hi-ho the me-ri-o, I won!!!
That’s the only way to go
I want you to know
Nothing constitutional ever worries me
Hi-ho the me-ri-o, I won!!!
I’m as happy as can be
I want you to know
Nothing constitutional ever worries me
I’ve got no constitutional strings
So I have fun
I’m not tied up to the constitutional strings of anyone
They’ve got constitutional strings
But as you can plainly see
There are no constitutional strings on me
Cheshire Cat on November 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I call him Toes
upinak on November 5, 2009 at 2:46 PM
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Answer: Hillary
.
It seems that voting “present” is not as bad as realizing that something has to be done, but being incompetent.
.
Question: How much worse would the alternate-universe-post-2008-Hillary election-victory-America-of-2009 have been?
Arbalest on November 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Yes, because everyone knows that America is ALL about Free, and Fair ELECTIONS!!!
Yes! Look at the Iranian who we are partners with!
Look… look… at Karzai’s Afganistan! Yes, a model of true free and Fair American Elections!
Look… look at Senator Stuart Smalley!!!
Look… at ACORN!!! Yes!!! A true American success story…
And of course, we can’t forget the NEW Black Panther Party and their efforts to help people Vote!!!
/sarc off
We need to clean up our own election process… the rest of the world is just taking its cues from us.
Romeo13 on November 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Obviously, he didn’t bundle enough narcotraficantes donations…
mojo on November 5, 2009 at 2:48 PM
“Let me be clear, Manny. I need you to get under there and check out what’s wrong with the Air Ride.”
http://images.world66.com/ch/ic/ke/chicken_bus_galleryfull
Doorgunner on November 5, 2009 at 2:48 PM
There is a Deliberate Stupidity here which makes this whole affair a Poster Child for Obama and his ‘administration’ ( a Byzantine maze of cabals and murky special interests and Total Lefty WhackJobs )
America has been wielding T.R’s ‘Big Stick’ for a century in Central America and American governments have propped up dictatorships–to prevent Even Worse Dictatorships and communists from gaining power. A lot of omlettes were made, with more than a few Broken Eggs.
But here, Obama-mama has overtly backed an overtly radical Lefty who overtly violated the Honduran Constitution. He took the worst of previous American behavior and used the worst of methods to back a punk thug who was clearly wrong.
It makes The One look like a Tool–the tool of hardcore Lefties like Chavez and whichever Castro hasn’t yet achieved Room Temperature. Why do this?
Janos Hunyadi on November 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Another obscure language, like Austrian!
ya2daup on November 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
“…Good Lord…Them people under that them thar bus looks like a mountain. I can’t recognize anyones face anymore…”
– upinak -
Maybe that’s why the Obama bus appears stalled, it can’t get any traction for all of the bodies stacked underneath?
potkas7 on November 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Those doofus’s are gonna get people killed. And maybe us.
Alana on November 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
We need to clean up our own election process
Imagine how many votes Christie really got
Haunches on November 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
ROFL!!!
capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Wellll…..maybe there is someone sane in the State Department (**cough cough**) who realized that it might be just a teensy problem for President Hopenchange to go on about the U.S. not interfering in the internal affairs of Iran, while we continued to do just that in Honduras.
rockmom on November 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM
As in begging? Don’tcha remember that business about “robust dialogue” when the regime thugs were shooting down the protestors in the streets? Didn’t I just see a demonstration by the Iranian protestors who were asking Obama if he was with them or the regime?
a capella on November 5, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Couldn’t happen to nicer corrupt pol with delusions of dictatorship. Wait….
ElectricPhase on November 5, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Its even worse… we won’t even clean up the AFGANISTAN election process… a country with a Government we put in place, and a country we are Militarily occupying…
Romeo13 on November 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Chile might disagree
ernesto on November 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Triple lindy.
LibTired on November 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM
What? No “as I’ve said all along”? What are we to think without those magic words?
Sue on November 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM
You know, the more I think about it, the more I believe this may have been a veiled threat to Congress and the people here in the U.S.
As in, “If you try to impeach me and throw me out of office, I am not leaving.”
I mean he had to know that all of the crap he had planned was going to royally piss people off.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM
LOL… yeah… but theres a reason it has a 10 Bazzilion Difficulty factor…
Romeo13 on November 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM
The Obama “administration” is completely incompetent in installing their own whackjob agenda.
How can we expect them to do anything positive for the American people when they can’t even implement the idiot measures they are actually interested in and that benefit them, only?
NoDonkey on November 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM
BTW, where is Hillary? She just appeared on FOX? Is that allowed? I still think she has it out for him….
Haunches on November 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM
is there a url or a zip code from that area? It’s gotta be dark and crowded these days….
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM
With the rate that UnderTheBus-Americans are being minted, they’ll probably get their own Congresscritter after the next census.
VelvetElvis on November 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Yeah… isn’t it interesting that a guy who Taught ACORN, now supports the Administrations of TWO countries brought to power in blatantly Bogus Elections?
Makes ya go… hmmmmm… (but not hmmm hmmm hmmm)
Romeo13 on November 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Heh, thanks! I was a little worried folks might not catch that.
red winger on November 5, 2009 at 3:00 PM
hell, if Zelaya’s under there now, they’ll probably grant him citizenship. He’d probably deny it by then ’cause the economy of Honduras is probably going to look to be in better shape than our own…..
Road Rash.
ted c on November 5, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Where’s the smart in smart power?
johnnybgood on November 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Snort
Blacksmith8 on November 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM
I thought that was what Dick Morris called him?
MarkTheGreat on November 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Most Chileans do agree. You however are wrong.
MarkTheGreat on November 5, 2009 at 3:21 PM
This is all very funny in the case of Honduras, but our real adversaries will notice the inept bungling and will adjust their plans accordingly.
pedestrian on November 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I think that other world leaders are finding out that from Barry, there is no loyalty to any other country for any length of time.
mimi1220 on November 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Very well said, but I don’t have an answer to your question.
My personal opinion is also the most pessimistic interpretation: Obama really wants the US to join the Chavez coalition of the Americas, along with Noriega, Lulu, Morales, Correa, and, he’d hoped at one time, Zelaya, and “transition” our country into a Chavez-style “democracy.”
notropis on November 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Liberal Lexicon:
Honduras: New Mini-van from Honda
BobMbx on November 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM
After watching the Bulls, he finally saw a report that said the American people realised that the Obama Administration was backing a Chavista. Obama doesn’t feel there is anything wrong with backing a Marxist but he doesn’t really want the American people to know that he knows and approves of such behavior. So he pulled out…he isn’t really sure from what he pulled out exactly but…
allstonian on November 5, 2009 at 3:31 PM
They already have, the number of soldiers killed in Afghanistan has grown steadily since the One’s inauguration.
Jvette on November 5, 2009 at 3:31 PM
The LLC Report stripped away their last fig leaf.
They were in the wrong and their last excuse went bye bye.
Gotta boast those ‘approval’ numbers, ya know.
CPT. Charles on November 5, 2009 at 3:37 PM
¡Auge! ¡Auge! ¡Auge!
¡Otro lanzado debajo del autobús!
¡Auge! ¡Auge! ¡Auge!
¡Otro lanzado debajo del autobús!
¡Y otro lanzado!
¡Y Otro lanzado!
¡Otro lanzado debajo del autobús!
¡Hey!
B.O. ¡el ir a lanzarle también!
¡Otro lanzado debajo del autobús!
¡Auge! ¡Auge! ¡Auge!
pilamaye on November 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Breaking News:
Mass Shooting Incident at Fort Hood.
Details pendeing
CPT. Charles on November 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM
pending, sorry.
Bad bad news.
CPT. Charles on November 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM
7 dead, ‘many wounded’
2 possible shooters, 1 in custody.
CPT. Charles on November 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM
O wonder why no one seems to know what they are doing in the Oba-Mao administration?
Of course they are opening propaganda offices all over America.
tarpon on November 5, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I went to my nephew’s graduation at Ft. Benning and was shocked to see that security at the base was outsourced to a private security company.
thomasaur on November 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Now reporting 3 shooters.
Beginning to sound like the Ft. Dix plot.
CPT. Charles on November 5, 2009 at 3:57 PM
The news just now said the shootings were at an area where they ready troops for deployment. This is not sounding good. Fort Hood is huge, and someone would almost have to know exactly where they were going.
capejasmine on November 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM
“I meant it and said it, before I said it and meant it. Now, shut up!”
GrannyDee on November 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I would love to hear the message on Hillary’s answering machine.
“Hellooo, If you are a Frustrated Central American Dictator, I’m out of the office right now but I’ll be glad to get back with you as soon as I can, oh, let’s see here, next July looks open on my schedule. Byee!!!
WWS on November 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM
I propose a compromise: The Honduran Legislature should wait until the middle of January to vote on reinstating Zelaya. They should vote to reinstate him, said reinstatement to take place 1 minute before his successor is inaugurated.
Greg Q on November 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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