MATTHEWS: But Chuck, let me get back to you again. Is there such a thing as an Obama believer? In other words, is there a set of beliefs he holds which can be shared by other politicians of the Democratic Party?

See Marx, Lenin and Mao.

Fixed it for myself (FIFM)
BobMbx on November 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM

It’s all about you? ;-)

That’s why you’ll never hear about the “Obama Doctrine” cause he doesn’t believe in anything.

gophergirl on November 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM

The Obama Doctrine: “You either worship him, or you are an un-American RACIST!”

V

I think we actually agree: Obama is not a Democrat, but the creature of others. His main interest is in being liked and admired.

We agree on what the consequences of his tenure are, but we disagree on this part of his wanting to be liked. I have the view that he doesn’t care what people think about him – not Americans, or Westerners, anyway. He’s never really done anything to try and make anyone like him. The press has always assumed that it was their job to get everyone worshipping the moron.

As for his goals, you and I can’t know that yet. For the time being, he seems content to let the hard left of his Party push its agenda.

Janos Hunyadi on November 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

We split here, too. I have no doubt about his goals. He’s been explicit about them, if not intentionally so. You might disagree, but all I can tell you is that nothing he has done has surprised me in the least. for instance, when he went to Copenhagen and everyone assumed that he would never do that without having it in the bag, I was of the opposite view, because I knew that, more than anything, he likes destroying the credibility of the office and making it a mockery. And when that was a total bust, it didn’t make him lose a step on his push to destroy us. He is very single-minded (and simple-minded, thank G-d).

Well, let’s give MSNBC credit for something. As Ed Morrissey writes, Chuck Todd  stumbles onto the truth about President Obama in a segment with the Tingler himself, Chris Matthews:
MATTHEWS: But Chuck, let me get back to you again.  Is there suc…

I think that about says it all.

BobMbx on November 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Fixed it for myself (FIFM)

We’ve complained a number of times about the cult of personality that surrounds Obama, but as Todd implies with this answer, it’s really all Obama has.

I think about says it all.

Yes. It’s like Sampson and his hair. You take away the cult and the image, it’s over. And the ACORN-esque “ground game,” too, that has to be factored in.

Beck said it best yesterday about Team Obama. They have two things: Propaganda and bully tactics. That’s it, that’s all they have.

Jim Vicevich and you, Ed, are both correct: Obama does want to enact a hard left agenda and he did want to be president (and he wants to be powerful, both now and for the rest of his life). I think the latter is more important than the former, however. That is, he’ll do what he has to do to stay in office and maintain power. If that means the left wing agenda gets thrown under the bus, so be it. See 1994. I don’t think he’ll throw the radical concepts away as easily as Clinton did, but if they have to go, they’re gone.

Obama is about Obama, and that means post-presidency as well. Once I saw him and Michelle sucking up to Theresa and John Kerry Heinz before the inauguration (and maybe during the campaign), I knew a lot of this was about Obama getting himself set up for life with power and $$$.

As you point out, Afghanistan is a great example. Every decision made by this administration is political, at least so far. Governance is secondary to The One, and that isn’t likely to change.

Paul F. Villarreal

Does Olbermann have a clause in his contract that he only has to go on the air when his side wins something?

Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM

It’s hard to broadcast from a fainting couch.

Dark-Star on November 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

“gigantic words”. To you they are. You’re about half as smart as you think you are, and no one cares what your silly nic is or why you chose it.

You can’t communicate with others because you can’t conceptualize what they’re saying, so you babble to yourself.

Nice. An amateurish attempt to slander using gigantic words to make yourself sound more important. Whatever trips your trigger, dear.

The ‘Star Wars’ nic gives you away, too.

Janos Hunyadi on November 4, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Epic fail, again. My username has nothing to do with Star Wars. Google it and hotair.com to find my explanation, which I posted some months ago.

progressoverpeace on November 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM

I think we actually agree: Obama is not a Democrat, but the creature of others. His main interest is in being liked and admired. As for his goals, you and I can’t know that yet. For the time being, he seems content to let the hard left of his Party push its agenda.

Dark-Star on November 4, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Grown-up words, eh? Nice try. You write disorganized gibberish because that’s how you ( don’t ) think, and because you don’t actually know enough to have any points of reference.

You can’t communicate with others because you can’t conceptualize what they’re saying, so you babble to yourself. The ‘Star Wars’ nic gives you away, too.

Obama wanted to be President, not to lead, but just to win. Now that he has won, he has no core set of governing principles other than what impacts Barack Obama.

Sorta like the dog chasing the car. Whenever I have that happen, I stop and let the dog catch the car. Once that happens, the dog just stands there and doesn’t know what to do.

Before I drive off, I go “Here, kitty, kitty, kitty” and that confuses the dog even more.

“ilk” ? “shebang” ? Do you have a list of quirky meaningless cliches you’re working from? You write gibberish that mashes everything together with no actual analysis of facts.

So sorry, precious. Do all those grown-up words make your little libtard brain hurt?

but is a Default Democrat more interested in fame and popularity–so he lets hardcore Democrats run the show.

Janos Hunyadi on November 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Not at all. The Precedent has the very well-defined goal of taking the US down and bringing us as much pain as possible. He knows that letting the batsh!t crazy Dems in Congress run wild will serve this purpose quite well (better than his own ideas, since he’s an imbecile) he just lets them run free. They are merely the useful idiots of an insane, revenge-driven imbecile. And all of the confusion is an added bonus for The Precedent, since anything that sucks the public trust out of our institutions is in sync with his aims. And The Precedent doesn’t just let the fools on the Hill run free, but he eggs them on at every chance.

Dark-Star on November 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM

“ilk” ? “shebang” ? Do you have a list of quirky meaningless cliches you’re working from? You write gibberish that mashes everything together with no actual analysis of facts.

Democrats DO have an ideology, genius: Look at the legislation they’ve proposed and passed. This thread is about how OBAMA has no fixed ideology, but is a Default Democrat more interested in fame and popularity–so he lets hardcore Democrats run the show.