Surrender: Axelrod interviewed for 11 minutes by noted “not news” network

posted at 6:26 pm on November 4, 2009 by Allahpundit

I guess that “truce” was for real: Not only did he give Major Garrett a full 11 minutes but he did it the day after they got stomped in Virginia and New Jersey. Peace in our time! You can take your pick of the video below or the transcript; curiously, there are no questions about the recent hostilities. Nothing about Anita Dunn dumping all over Fox on Kurtz’s show a few weeks ago or Axelrod himself recently calling FNC “not really a news station.” Nothing about the White House refusing to let Fox interview Obama for the rest of the year or trying to bar Garrett from chatting with “pay czar” Ken Feinberg at the last minute. Nothing even about the administration’s creepy attempt to quarantine Fox’s scoops by lecturing other news networks on what should and shouldn’t count as news. I can only assume that Axelrod declared Fox-related questions off limits as a condition of the interview. Or maybe Garrett, as a hard news reporter, is embarrassed by all the petty squabbling and didn’t want to waste precious face time on questions about the White House’s media paranoia?

Nothing terribly revelatory here (although his comments about young Democrats and independents staying home without Obama on the ticket bode ill for his party in the midterms), but let’s correct yet another bit of lame spin about NY-23. Quote:

Fox News: Why should millions of votes in New Jersey and Virginia matter less than a larger political atmosphere than the relatively smaller number of votes in New York-23?

Axelrod: Well, I think you have to look at what those races were. The New York-23 race was the one race that was really a microcosm of the national debate. The other races in New Jersey and in Virginia were really state races very much focused on state issues and Jersey was very much focused on Gov. Corzine. But in New York-23 the issues that we’re discussing every day in Washington were very much on the ballot and particularly because of the purge of the republican candidate by the right.

Um, (a) Bob McDonnell ran explicitly on jobs, which I’m pretty sure are being discussed every day in Washington, and (b) one of Hoffman’s biggest weaknesses was that he was perceived as a carpetbagger. He lives outside the district, had basically no relationship with the local party bosses, and, when questioned by the area newspaper, famously showed little knowledge of local issues. Given how close the race was, that may have alienated just enough voters to tip it — which would make the result in NY-23 the most, not the least, parochial of the big three last night.

But whatever. There’s no arguing with spin. Exit question: Was Axelrod forced to do this interview simply because his cable news options are diminishing? Read it and weep, CNN fans.


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Hoffman also had zero charisma. And he still lost by a squeaker.

John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Must have wanted to get their message out since no one watches the other networks.

deadenders on November 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Insert tail between legs Anal-ROD.

RobCon on November 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Maybe Axelturf realizes nobody is hearing their message.

I tuned in to CNN last night for maybe 60 seconds. Nine people saying nothing. The only one with a lick of sense, Mary Matalin, looked as if she’d rather be anywhere else. Her husband the gargoyle was as incoherent as ever. David Gergen was almost lifelike.

JammieWearingFool on November 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM

And let’s not ignore the fact that Scuzzyfavabeans was still on the ballot and got 5%.

TheTrollhammer on November 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Even during the squabble the White House heaped praise on Garrett. I don’t know if he’d have any incentive to continue the feuds.

Anyway, Hoffman had a problem with the carpetbagger image (which couldn’t have been helped by his numerous out of state endorsements… did Palin/T-Paw/Armey & co think of that before jumping in?) but that’s only one of his weaknesses.

Siobhan on November 4, 2009 at 6:35 PM

What’s really silly is that Doug’s biggest flaw was that he talked about the big issues rather than the local problems. So Axelrod’s focus is nothing but politics as usual.

I think that’s what people are mostly sick of, too.
Spin that is this obvious actually is a turn-off.

AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Is that the guy with the German Mustache?

tarpon on November 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Personally, I think Dede threw the race because she really got into a big ole’ pout. The entire race must have the local GOP red-faced.

AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Those numbers are hilarious. Fox has quadruple the viewers of any other cable news channel. Given that fact and the fact newspapers are tanking all over the county, not to mention Air America problems, I would say that nobody wants to hear the Liberal spin on America’s problems. You could tie those numbers in with Obama’s and Congress’ dropping numbers also.

kingsjester on November 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM

I predicted this last night… all they have been doing all day is ignoring NJ and VA and focusing on NY-23 b/c of the “split” in the GOP. Plus it gives them a chance to smear Palin some more.

davek70 on November 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Ny23 must be the most important district in the nation or the most insignificant, it can’t be both.

fourdeucer on November 4, 2009 at 6:41 PM

The bottom line is that Hoffman lost the St Lawrence River Counties where the local issues were supreme — Roof top highway and St Lawrence dredging.

It wasn’t the carpetbagger issue so much as his not getting the point of “Local issues, Baby, Local Issues”.

Dusty on November 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM

How else would you expect a band of eunuchs to respond to an obvious smackdown? Too bad Obama didn’t campaign in the 23rd. Congressman Hoffman would’ve appreciated the help.

volsense on November 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM

I predicted this last night… all they have been doing all day is ignoring NJ and VA and focusing on NY-23 b/c of the “split” in the GOP. Plus it gives them a chance to smear Palin some more.

davek70 on November 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Well, the shock of VA hasn’t yet sunk in. That was far, far worse than they expected.

AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Is that the guy with the German Mustache?

tarpon on November 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM

I don’t know what that means, but it sounds disgusting.
/Arrested Development

Siobhan on November 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM

You don’t suppose they are beginning to realize their “mandate” was rooted in deceit, hmmmmmmmm? Those on the downslope are in no position to continue to be ars holes.

PaCadle on November 4, 2009 at 6:44 PM

I’ve read that one of the “issues in DC” they did discuss in NY23 was health care; and Owens insisted he is against a “public option” in the bill. Also, I’ve read that Owens attacked Scazzofava as having voted for too many tax increases. If that’s true, then whatever “issues we’re discussing every day in Washington” didn’t work to the One’s favor. In fact, the Democrat had to run away from Pelosi/Reid/Obama in order to win even with, effectively, no Republican on the ballot.

jdp629 on November 4, 2009 at 6:45 PM

The article on “job training” for teapartiers is really very good. It’s on the money.

AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Hoffman was a carpetbagger with no charisma, no political machine and little or no name recognition. In spite of these negatives he nearly beat an established Democrat and his formidable political apparatus. One significant reason was that Hoffman had a commendable conservative approach to governing that the electorate liked and supported. Just think what would have happened if a more dynamic, well known, Party supported candidate with a similar value system had been running. The GOP must learn from this election and ensure they present the electorate with a sound primary system to select strong, dynamic conservative candidates.

rplat on November 4, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Anita Dunn is a Maoist whore and she lost.

Apologetic California on November 4, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Job one for this administration is siphoning wealth to prop up and bribe liberal voting blocks while manipulating the rest of the nation with outright lies into thinking jobs are on the way when this far hard left kabuki theater of operations covertly and deliberately turns down the flame on the America/world liberty engine, causing millions if not billions to suffer and starve to benefit progressive ideologue’s political domination agenda.

Speakup on November 4, 2009 at 6:48 PM

“keep your enemies close”

Assholrod is engaged in intel for his future talking points.

Cybergeezer on November 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM

You don’t suppose they are beginning to realize their “mandate” was rooted in deceit, hmmmmmmmm? Those on the downslope are in no position to continue to be ars holes.

PaCadle on November 4, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Actually, the progressives are pretty much taking the same position as the right….the problem is too much compromise in their eyes.

They are convinced the independents are disillusioned with Obama due to failure to shove through more extreme policies.

It makes very little sense, of course. Why would they vote conservative if that were the case.

But pundits don’t need to be logical.

AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Why is one representative out of 435 more important than 2 governors out of 50?

katiejane on November 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Scuzzifatti had withdrawn and 5% of the liberal lemmings still voted for her. I wonder if she is going to pay the $900,000 back to the RINOs? If the GOP will give someone who is as intellectually deficient as Scuzzifatti this much money then they can save the postage on their contribution mailers.

volsense on November 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I can’t think who Axelrod reminds me of, it might be someone from a Laurel and Hardy movie. Just looking at his face conjures up the sound of one of those old time car horns – aROOga! I can see him in black and white slipping on a banana skin or being hit by a falling piano or something.

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I bet that was painful!

galvestonian on November 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM

The Obaby admin trying to act like adults? Shock…
-

RalphyBoy on November 4, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Hoffman had a lot of problems; carpetbagger image, stabbed in the back by the GOP candidate, and most glaring IMHO, a definite lack of political chops.

Lesson to be learned here is that the GOP should commit in all but the most extreme circumstances to choosing its candidates through a primary process. I suspect neither Hoffman nor Scozzafava would have survived a primary, and the candidate that did win a GOP primary there would have cleaned Owens’ clock.

Oh… and Axelrod is a tool, in case you didn’t know.

JohnGalt23 on November 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Crap on two legs. Always was, always will be.

MayorDaley on November 4, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Spacly Sprockets baby, He’s a dead ringer.

SHARPTOOTH on November 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Um, (a) Bob McDonnell ran explicitly on jobs, which I’m pretty sure are being discussed every day in Washington,

In Washington yes, just not in the White House. The filthy lying dithering coward and his street thugs are more interested in planning the next golf outing, trip to Europe, and what dress best hides Michelle Obama’s fat rump. No time to talk about jobs, they all have one so what is the problem.

IMO, the war with FNC is merely in a lull though it seems to be off the air tonight on the local cable network. I wonder if that is a coinidence or if the filthy lying coward has decided to censor the airwaves after all and Axlerod was merely delivering the paperwork!

highhopes on November 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM

poor Axelrod, Deeds did not embrace obama enough, Corzine embraced him too hard, NY-23 is a microcosm and he has to be interviewd by FOX reporter a day after his boss got rejected decisively and unequivocally

runner on November 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Two words:

Teeth Whitener.

Those teeth, gack, cost Hoffman the election.

klickink.wordpress.com on November 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Exit question:

You can not deny a landslide like yesterday…. Well, unless you think you can fool the Fox crowd. I think they want to try to depress the conservitive base. Nice Try, but we are more motivated than evah!

bbordwell on November 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM

I bet that was painful!

galvestonian on November 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM

I think Team Obama is probably just tired of talking only to the news readers at CNN and MSNBC.

ddrintn on November 4, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Spacly Sprockets baby, He’s a dead ringer.

SHARPTOOTH on November 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM

LOL! Here he is interviewing Glenn Beck….

http://www.selfhelpdaily.com/george-and-spacely.jpg

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Hey Allah Pundit — you seeing anything about the Iranian protests/counter-protests today? Worth reporting on? Looks like both sides hate Obama.

John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Axelrod still won’t talk to the leader of the Republican Party. After all, he’s only an entertainer.

Jim Treacher on November 4, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Or being interviewed by Glenn Beck rather. Or something. I don’t even know what I’m trying to get at.

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 7:10 PM

I agree that NY23 was a national race.

The Lib-RINO went down, and in three weeks after getting on the radar a virtual unknown, a conservative, came within a few points of beating a Dem.

And, if there’d been a primary instead of an inside job, the conservative would’ve won that and the regular election.

TXUS on November 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM

These guys will surrender to anybody!

BadgerHawk on November 4, 2009 at 7:12 PM

I can’t think who Axelrod reminds me of….

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

How about this guy ?

Barnestormer on November 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Or maybe Garrett, as a hard news reporter, is embarrassed by all the petty squabbling

Really? If he were a “hard news reporter” it seems to me he’d be deeply to his marrow disgusted by the litany of insults to Fox’s journalistic integrity (and by the egregious, authoritarian-like abuses of power by the White House against the credo of American journalism) of the past few weeks. What happened may be considered “petty” I suppose by some definition but it was also majestically, historically offensive.

rrpjr on November 4, 2009 at 7:14 PM

How about this guy ?

Barnestormer on November 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM

+1

Looks and politics

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:14 PM

I think Team Obama is probably just tired of talking only to the news readers at CNN and MSNBC.

ddrintn on November 4, 2009 at 7:04 PM

And all twenty of their viewers. IMO the filthy lying coward has acted stupidly by picking a fight with FNC- as if this were one of his community organizing situations where you get what you want by demonizing the loudest dissenter in the court of public opinion.

Fact of the matter is that FNC has an audience. This corrupt administration should be constantly talking to FNC employees if they want to get their message out.

highhopes on November 4, 2009 at 7:14 PM

OT but hahahahahaha

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/11/04/msnbc-s-chris-matthews-visibly-frustrated-after-being-taunted-leg-ti

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Chrissy: b-b-b-b-but what do you mean?

John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Worth reporting on? Looks like both sides hate Obama.

John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Or maybe a thread with the Newt interview on Hannity. Newt was essentially still lecturing that we needed to avoid prickly conservative principles in the name of electability. He admitted that Scozzafava wasn’t as advertised but went on to blame the system.

highhopes on November 4, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Would you like some ketchup with your crow, Mr. Axelrod?

Cicero43 on November 4, 2009 at 7:18 PM

OT but hahahahahaha

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/11/04/msnbc-s-chris-matthews-visibly-frustrated-after-being-taunted-leg-ti

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He wanted to go all “I’m gonna kick your ass” on the guy, and then he so clearly remembered: “I’m Chrissy. I’m a wuss.”

Rational Thought on November 4, 2009 at 7:20 PM

You summed it all up here, AP:

I guess that “truce” was for real: Not only did he give Major Garrett a full 11 minutes but he did it the day after they got stomped in Virginia and New Jersey.

Guess who watches FOX? A good number of Independents, the same ones who cost them NJ and who are moving away from them across the board.

One can only have so many fronts in any war and expect survival, much less success.

Looks like Team Overreach just learned that lesson. The hard way.

Don’t think Beck and Hannity won’t notice, either. It’s just like Iran or Russia: Team O has shown its weakness and now it’s open season.

Paul F. Villarreal

PhoenixUniversal on November 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM

There’s no arguing with spin. Exit question: Was Axelrod forced to do this interview simply because his cable news options are diminishing? Read it and weep, CNN fans.

WOW! Not just CNN, but HLN and MSNBC. When FOX is beating the second place guy by nearly four times, it’s time to “reevaluate”, no? Actually no. It’s in the administration’s best interest for FOX to become the most powerful most monolithic most profitable cable news outlet out there.

Weight of Glory on November 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Let me C if I git dis str8.

N da NY 23rd, a citizen takes on the GubRmint, gets beat and everyone is surprised…. hahahah.. So u guys still think DeeDee sold out the Republicans by endorse n da Democrat…hahahaha… doesn’t occur 2 U that she was protect n da System….. don’t feel sorry for her….. she’ll be taken care of….. a D or an R after a name don’t mean nut n 2 da players. Yep da GubRmint beat a Citizen and everyone is surprised…….hahahahaha Even Al Capone and Bugs Moran understood PROTECT n DA SYSTEM

rOfLmMfAo

donabernathy on November 4, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Can we harass CRR FINS DAVE R. etc etc about the tingle O gives them….just wondering…hahahahahaha

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:23 PM

rOfLmMfAo

donabernathy on November 4, 2009 at 7:22 PM

While I get your point …that was annoying

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Chrissy: b-b-b-b-but what do you mean?

John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Totally destroyed.

the_nile on November 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Also not mentioned is the fact that this is not the same 23rd district that everyone describes as a Republican stronghold since the “time of the Civil War”. Hoffman did live in that 23rd district until it was sliced and diced by gerrymandering to form something that Democrats might have a chance of winning.

edwina on November 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Why is one representative out of 435 more important than 2 governors out of 50?

katiejane on November 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Good point…

Especially if the law allows the Governors in NJ and VA to select replacement Senators.

Seven Percent Solution on November 4, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Asslrod talks to Major Garret
Does that mean Obama is ready to talk to BillO ?

macncheez on November 4, 2009 at 7:41 PM

I couldn’t watch 11 minutes of Axe if I was his prison guard . He’s making a break for it !

borntoraisehogs on November 4, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Snideley Whiplash, snake oil salesman

bluegrass on November 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Love that ‘Napoleon returning from Russia look’.

Sapwolf on November 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM

I can not wait until 2010…

d1carter on November 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Wait a minute?

Does this mean Beck gets rid of the red phone?

That would suck. I like that phone. I like waiting for it to ring during his show (about as likely as Glenn interviewing the ‘Great Pumpkin’).

I’d miss it.

Sapwolf on November 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM

I can not wait until 2010…

d1carter on November 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM

The case FOR aging…..aging fast!

Sapwolf on November 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Rush described the Ballot in NY 23 as having Owens name under the Democratic AND the Working Families Party.
Scozzafava had the Republican AND Independence Party.
Hoffman had just the Conservative Party.

Can anyone verify this?

jpmn on November 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM

no questions about the recent hostilities…

Huh????????

Allrighty then. In that case, at the risk of being a royal pain the backside, I think FOX caved.

marybel on November 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM

I think Team Obama is probably just tired of talking only to the news readers at CNN and MSNBC.
ddrintn on November 4, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Nah… they were getting slobbered on so much they are developing rashes

ya2daup on November 4, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Why is one representative out of 435 more important than 2 governors out of 50?
katiejane on November 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Is this a “word” problem from the Math section of the SAT? ;-)

ya2daup on November 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM

I think that Axelrod looked and acted chastened in that interview. He tried to slip in his progressive spin, but the election results in VA and NJ and even in NY-23 were actually a wake-up call that the taxpaying voters are not happy with “hope and change” slogans that bleed their wallets.

The malarkey that Joe Biden’s visit to NY-23 had an impact on the district’s election is a stretch of vast proportions. I actually think that the Dems would have been happy to have a Scozzafava win because her votes on behalf of the Obamao agenda would have been more predictable, AND like Specter and Jeffords, she was likely to change her party affiliation.

Several points that Axelrod made seemed peculiar: He did not mention the Taliban as a source of terrorism in Afghanistan. I know that “the Taliban is our friend” is the current spin of the WH, but the delusion should never be accepted as wisdom during an interview.

Axelrod claims that there is more international cooperation in re Iran under Obamao’s “smart power,” but exactly how has Russia “stood with us” vis a vis Russia, as Axelrod claims.

Axelrod attributes the losses in VA and NJ to the young not voting in this election. If the Republicans were smart in reaching out to young people, they would creating effective ads that show how little these future employees will be netting in their paychecks once all of the taxes for health care and energy are in place.

Surely someone can create an ad that shows how personally paying for catastrophic insurance or leaner coverage lets an employee have more money to spend or invest on what he chooses.

onlineanalyst on November 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM

How about this guy ?

Barnestormer on November 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM

LOL! Defola!

Sharke on November 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

CWforFreedom on November 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Classic! Ridicule is deadly! See Alinsky, R4R, Rule #5

ya2daup on November 4, 2009 at 8:22 PM

the positive for all of us (other than the obvious is NJ & VA) is that having Bambi campaign for you is a bummer while Biden stumping for you (Owens in NY23) is the BOMB!

damn, it makes me want to run for something.

kelley in virginia on November 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

anecdotal yes. but not many young people voted for McD on my precinct yesterday. granted, we are not a young, hip place, but we didn’t have many young voters at all: Repub or Dem.

kelley in virginia on November 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Why didn’t the President think everything else this
through this thoroughly

uber on November 4, 2009 at 8:48 PM

I guess that “truce” was for real: Not only did he give Major Garrett a full 11 minutes but he did it the day after they got stomped in Virginia and New Jersey.

Or, maybe they realize the best way to destroy Fox is to let it be a channel that has Democrat yak for a solid 11 minutes…

Chris_Balsz on November 4, 2009 at 9:07 PM

This is typical of the democrats. They are so intellectually dishonest they will not admit they were soundly defeated in two major races.

This is a perfect example as to why we conservatives must not weaken one iota on Obama care. These guys want it so bad they will embarrass themselves shamelessly to keep up appearances for those who are supporting their unconstitutional power grab. I’ll tell you when we can relax….NEVER as long as the Marxists run the democrat party!

csdeven on November 4, 2009 at 9:17 PM

But they already told us that none..NONE..of these races were important. Sorry Davy. You, Barry, Plugs, and the ballerina got pwnd badly last night.

WarEagle01 on November 4, 2009 at 9:55 PM

A-rod is like ‘Mymood is Imadinnerjacket’, calling a truce so he can keep building his healthcare and cap and trade nukes.

percysunshine on November 5, 2009 at 6:35 AM

Or maybe Garrett, as a hard news reporter, is embarrassed by all the petty squabbling and didn’t want to waste precious face time on questions about the White House’s media paranoia?

Or he knows that jumping on it gives the other side ammo.

Being hard core news and not getting in a cat fight simply makes the White House look like girly men.

- The Cat

MirCat on November 5, 2009 at 7:03 AM

I hope the tone of the interview does not mean that Fox is now toeing the line.

davod on November 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM

Rove would have tap danced the same line too. Axelrod and company are on the ropes at the moment and probably hope the Old Media simply move on (“nothing to see here, folks”). One day this Chicagoland thug will recall the good old days with Andrea Mitchell that ‘at least we’ll always have NY-23.” Right. For about 1 year.

kens on November 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM

If Axholerod goes on CNN or MSLSD which nobody watches, is it really a news interview?

Another Chicago turd in the DC punchbowl.

dthorny on November 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Fox compromised into tossing Axelgrease puffballs means the WH won this war.
Who needs to watch Fox for that?

Better Obamao’s mouthpiece refuses to appear on Fox and Fox retain their credibility. The WH wants Fox’s viewers more than Fox needs the WH.

Yephora on November 5, 2009 at 1:06 PM