Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on November 4, 2009 by Allahpundit
“‘I think time was the biggest factor, and if [Hoffman had] had a bit more time, he would have won,’ said Everett Wilkinson, a South Florida-based tea party organizer who was watching the contest closely. ‘I wouldn’t consider it a loss. I think we were successful.’
“‘He just got there late, that’s all,’ Armey said. ‘We think small-government conservatives had a big victory last night.’”
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“What was learned Tuesday is that the American voter is absolutely, totally, unremittingly disgusted with both political parties. More than anything, the American voter is desperate for political leadership…
“Add another American metaphor to the political landscape: the cattle stampede. Independent voters across the U.S. have become like the massive cattle herd John Wayne drove from Texas to Kansas in ‘Red River.’ These voters are spooked and on the run, a political stampede that veered left in November 2008 and now right a mere year later. They will keep running—crushing incumbents, candidates and political models of the left and right—through November 2010 and onto 2012 until they find a person or party capable of leadership appropriate to our unsettled times. And yes, Virginia, the possibility of a man on a white horse in 2012 is not out of the question.”
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“‘I think the conservative movement and the Republican leadership can pretty rapidly come to an agreement that defeating Pelosi in 2010 and Obama in 2012 is worth sorting things out for,’ Mr. Gingrich said.
“Mr. Gingrich said that throughout history, political leaders had emerged to steer parties to power by reconciling competing factions. Asked which Republicans had the stature to do so now, he replied: ‘That will happen. Or it will not.’”
***
“What happened to the change we can believe in?”
Blowback
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Brilliant!
mankai on November 4, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Or a woman?
OldEnglish on November 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Come on folks.
In 2008 the conservatives stayed home and the independents fell for the ‘hope and change’ hype.
This year, some conservatives showed up, and the independents are running away from Obama as fast as they can.
Skandia Recluse on November 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Moooooooooooooo!
O/T: Allah…are you watching Greta? Behind the scenes at the chasm between Palin and McCain. McCain didn’t want Palin to speak because he knew she’d upstage him. Seriously.
SouthernGent on November 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM
I think the chatter will be over soon about this race. After all, it’s really too silly.
The article that made the most sense was that this was a very good learning experience for some of the organizers.
AnninCA on November 4, 2009 at 10:38 PM
It’s too bad that we conservatives have to make excuses for some in our party.
We don’t fall for the ‘Republicans vote on Tuesday, Democrats vote on Wednesday’ nonsense.
It shouldn’t have mattered if he showed up a week before the vote. He should have won, dagnabbit.
What is with you people voting dumbocrat? Being unemployed not enough? How long will “It’s W.’s fault” work on you?
Lanceman on November 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Z’OMG…Susan Collins talks like Carol Channing…but she is taking zer0 to the woodshed re: czars.
SouthernGent on November 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM
The Mahdi is coming? Apocalypse Now?
nyx on November 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM
McCain was a horrible candidate.
The Right was not excited and indys broke for the smoke and mirrors… and BHO had a complicit press… and he still only garnered 53%.
The danger will come in the primaries. I noted previously that McCain failed to get 50% of the vote in 21 of the first 23 contests. Conservatives were split (I was one of the <1% supporting Duncan Hunter). If there is a viable candidate to get out in front before IA and NH… BHO can be defeated… but 2012 is a long way off.
mankai on November 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Did anyone else hear that Hoffman didn’t get any votes at all from several voting machines and that somethign like 4 others were quarantined right at the start of the count? I smell a rat..
CCRWM on November 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM
It melted. I blame Global Warming.
MB4 on November 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Man on a white horse in 2012?
Seems like we had a man on a white unicorn in 2008.
This time, how ’bout a woman on a snow machine?
notropis on November 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Agreed.
rukiddingme on November 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Newt’s afraid to commit himself after his e-harmony match in NY-23 didn’t work out.
Ted Torgerson on November 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
He really should have demanded to see a photograph before agreeing to a date….
notropis on November 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
I wonder if Hoffman had a couple more weeks, the GOP political machine and $900,000 more to spend on his campaign if things wouldn’t be a tad different.
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Conservative grass-roots activists asserted Wednesday that third-party candidate Doug Hoffman’s loss in a New York special election was no setback but, rather, signaled a victory for the burgeoning political movement.
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The Tea Partys and Townhall venting has mobilized Conservatives,to get out and vote!!
The ObamaVoterBots who voted in Obama,were AWOL for
this election!!!
Republicans are finally out of the wilderness and
are motivated!!
Thats a WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
I’d like to think so, at any rate.
notropis on November 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
+1
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Janet Spencer, a South Carolina-based tea party activist who in September chartered two buses to take 75 of her neighbors to the nation’s capital for the Taxpayer March on Washington, went one step further, declaring the outcome a win.
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I should of added this!!
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Men, it has been well said, think in herds, it can be seen that they go mad in herds, and only recover their senses slowly and one by one.
- Charles Mckay
MB4 on November 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM
This time, how ’bout a woman on a snow machine?
notropis on November 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
notropis: Excellent,here ya go!!
http://my.qoop.com/store/Youra-Store-1441423690848346/Sarah-Palin-2012-Rogue-Snow-Machine-15-oz–Ceramic-Mug-by-Dan-Youra-Artwork-4857983100464/
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Is it me or does Hoffman come off as a really creepy Fred Rogers?
I still think the really big lesson here is the utter shockwave that occurred when conservative voters stood up and told the GOP leadership “no, we will not vote for that woman in the name of electability.”
2008 was the lesson to question “electability” and NY-23 was the trial run for 2010. The GOP leadership learned from this election, or they didn’t. They have the ability to unite the party and defeat Pelosi but that isn’t going to happen if they repeat the scene where Newt told the Republicans to STFU and vote for Scuzzy.
highhopes on November 4, 2009 at 10:50 PM
NY23 brings home the fact that the Conservative Movement is off target and out of phase. Overall we lack a solid, specific message and strategy. Hoffman and others spend most of their time generalizing rather than being bold and specific. U.S. voters want specifics. No generalizations!
Tuesdays victories clearly go to the Republican establishment. No victory here for us Movement Conservatives. We should not be in denial about that. Darvin Dowdy
Darvin Dowdy on November 4, 2009 at 10:51 PM
It won’t be Newt.
elduende on November 4, 2009 at 10:51 PM
What was learned…?
OK, I’ll bite.
How about no more RINOs on Republican tickets?
How about exposing the Global Warming/Climate Change and the “Coming Green Economy” as a complete HOAX and not giving it the dignity of polite conversation?
How about exposing The Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and anyone else responsible for our economic collapse.
How about closing “K Street”?
How about writing legislation in plain language in under twenty pages that every American can understand?
Need more..?
Seven Percent Solution on November 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I’ve been meaning to ask for a long time now.
What is the seven percent solution?
You didn’t get it off a bottle of peroxide, did you?
Lanceman on November 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM
I believe that was McCain’s main problem with Palin from the convention on.
ddrintn on November 4, 2009 at 10:56 PM
RAAAAAAACIST!!!……………………………and sexist.
red winger on November 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Gingrich should return to writing mediocre novels. He’s not a man of this moment.
rrpjr on November 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM
from imdb:
Plot Summary for The Seven-Per-Cent Solution (1976)
Concerned about his friend’s cocaine use, Dr. Watson tricks Sherlock Holmes into travelling to Vienna, where Holmes enters the care of Sigmund Freud. Freud attemts to solve the mysteries of Holmes’ subconscious, while Holmes devotes himself to solving a mystery involving the kidnapping of Lola Deveraux.
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Seven Percent Solution 2012!
mankai on November 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Obama hits new low in RCP
MB4 on November 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM
He didn’t want her to speak on election night…after the loss. She had a speech prepared and everything. You could definitely see the tension on stage. She’s leading the “herd” now, though. She will lead us to the Promised Land.
SouthernGent on November 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM
The guy had no knowledge about the specific district and its problems. How would more time have helped that?
Speedwagon82 on November 4, 2009 at 11:00 PM
There is no try.
- The Cat
MirCat on November 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM
What was learned Tuesday is that the American voter is absolutely, totally, unremittingly disgusted with both political parties. More than anything, the American voter is desperate for political leadership.
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So,the narrative is both are bad,ooooookay,but,if the
voter is desperate for political leadership,ummm,Obama
has been in office for a little over ten months!!
Interesting me thinks!!
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Tuesdays victories clearly go to the Republican establishment. No victory here for us Movement Conservatives. We should not be in denial about that. Darvin Dowdy
Darvin Dowdy on November 4, 2009 at 10:51 PM
BetseyRoss on November 4, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Hoffman beat one candidate and almost beat a second.
A backstabbing RINO hurt him at the end.
That won’t happen a second time.
profitsbeard on November 4, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Change we can bereave in.
ronsfi on November 4, 2009 at 11:06 PM
You’re being very optimistic tonight. How do we stop this herd mentality and promote independent thinking? I suggest we round everybody up who has a herd mentality, brand them, then keep whipping them until they do what they’re told, follow our lead, and think independently, exactly like we do.
Loxodonta on November 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Graham is still a member of the GOP…
MeatHeadinCA on November 4, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Hope and Change is out!
Trust and Verify candidates is in!!
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 11:12 PM
There was a news story on biggovernment.com
“Acorn to protest tomorrow’s vote in clinton county”
(I believe this story is about clinton county new york NY-23)
but I’m getting a gateway timeout and can’t confirm.
ACORN to protest vote only if Owen lost?
What happened to the protest?
Skandia Recluse on November 4, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Henninger is a good writer.
1. dot com bubble
2. 9/11
3. crash
4. virtually zero interest rates
5. housing bubble
6. two wars
7. housing crash
8. financial crash
9. Obama elected
10 2009…bailouts, nationalizations, Barney Frank, Pelosi, cap&tax, healthcare
one hell of a decade. yes, people want to live in peace, in a work-a-day world, where they can save and grow their money, for their children.
The Leftists do not want people to live in peace, they want constant agitation, because there is where the government becomes the greatest power…what did 1st Lady say? Obama will make you work??? indeed, they love the crisis, that is how they get things done
Seriously, in management/leadership, the best is to get a crisis (or war)…that always rallies the troops. no time to question, get to work
r keller on November 4, 2009 at 11:14 PM
There was a news story on biggovernment.com
“Acorn to protest tomorrow’s vote in clinton county”
(I believe this story is about clinton county new york NY-23)
but I’m getting a gateway timeout and can’t confirm.
ACORN to protest vote only if Owen lost?
What happened to the protest?
Skandia Recluse on November 4, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Skandia Recluse: I wonder if ACORN voted for Scozzafava,
and thats why she had the five thousand
or so votes to dilute the voter count!!:)
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Agreed. Virginia was a wonderful event for conservatives and against Obama. New Jersey seems a mixed bag. Clearly Obama demonstrated no ability to draw a winning vote, but the election seemed more about a very poor Democrat candidate. So, one conservative win and two Obama losses give me Hope for change in 2010.
NY-23 was and remains a mess from the local party’s initial choice through Hoffman’s defeat. I love to read a detailed analysis of what happened when, who, why and how. It will be interesting to see how it works out next year.
Loxodonta on November 4, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Kinky.
MB4 on November 4, 2009 at 11:28 PM
The rat is the Federal government lording it over the states to adopt POS electronic machines nationwide because a clatch of retards in FL couldn’t read butterfly ballots or fully punch chads out of reader cards.
I want our mechanical monsters back!!!! Waaaaa ….
Dusty on November 4, 2009 at 11:30 PM
I prefer a real conservative losing to a feaux liberal Republican winning.
I dunno, call it principal…..
JoeinTX on November 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM
To the Troll read it and weep.
Conservatives of America proudly presents The North American Tour of “Going Rogue”.
Clyde5445 on November 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM
So long as it is not a Palomino….
coldwarrior on November 4, 2009 at 11:53 PM
I’m amazed that Hoffman did not win. He should have.
How, when Dodo Scuzzyfuzzy dropped out, she wasn’t removed from the polls. Either paper, crossed out, or electronic, NA.
I think NY-23 had blatant voter fraud and no one has called it.
If New Yorkers are that stupid to vote for the candidate that dropped out of the race, then by all means, live with what you put in office.
California just started robbing it’s citizens, I guess one size really does fit all.
Kini on November 4, 2009 at 11:54 PM
I liked the spooked cattle metaphor. That actually sounds about right. Middle America is getting low on chips and in desperation is trying the more extreme games of chance in hopes of a big payoff on the odds. “No experience but sounds nice, let’s give him a try. Oh crap, he doesn’t know what the hell he is doing and is burning through at quadruple the cash rate, let’s try something completely different. Oh crap,…”
ray on November 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM
watch what you say, they’ll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won’t you sign up your name, we’d like to feel you’re
acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!
disillusioned on November 5, 2009 at 12:00 AM
That is insightful and very profound. I like it!
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM
canopfor on November 4, 2009 at 11:12 PM
That is insightful and very profound. I like it!
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Kini:Well,Scozzafava was a double agent,once in,votes
Liberal,and thanks for the kind words!!:)
canopfor on November 5, 2009 at 12:03 AM
There are times when all the GOP asleep.
The question runs so deep.
For such a simple constituency.
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Yes, dear.
Loxodonta on November 5, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Your welcome.
GOP leadership needs to take a hard look at how they run things.
NY should have had a primary, and possibly, Hoffman would have won.
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:08 AM
That tingle up Chrissy’s leg sounds like it has turned into a pain in his a$$.
d1carter on November 5, 2009 at 12:09 AM
watch what you say, they’ll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won’t you sign up your name, we’d like to feel you’re
acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!
disillusioned on November 5, 2009 at 12:00 AM
disillusioned: The Logical Song,SuperTramp!Enjoy:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyEtoMjzRE
canopfor on November 5, 2009 at 12:11 AM
OT: Newt on Hannity explaining why he endorse Scuzzyfuzzy.
He had a hard time going against 11 district leaders that endorsed Scuzzyfuzzy.
Gingrich could have refused to endorse Scuzzyfuzzy.
AUGH!@, this man is so pissing me off
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:11 AM
lol, Thanks for picking up on the reference. Cheers.
disillusioned on November 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Nancy Pelosi: “The Phillies were clearly the winners Wednesday night in NY 27, despite what the right-wing FOX wants you to believe.”
jbtripp on November 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM
QOTD: “The New York Yankees win their 27th World Chamionship”
rbj on November 5, 2009 at 12:18 AM
NY should have had a primary, and possibly, Hoffman would have won.
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Kini: The Tea Partys and Townhall meetings showed that the
Republicans can mobilize and get out the vote!
Of all places,I heard a CNN analyist say,last night
on an Intel mission,that those Liberals who voted
for Obama,sat this one out,and the African American
vote was done five points and claimed that the Liber
als are in trouble!!
Conservatives have regained the momemtum,that to me
is a WIN!!:)
canopfor on November 5, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Kini,have a great nite,sweet dreams,the wife needs her
quality time on the net:)
canopfor on November 5, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Newt should just slither back under his rock. He makes my skin crawl. He just bends which ever way the wind blows.
TXMomof3 on November 5, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Collins has been tenacious about this issue.
onlineanalyst on November 5, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Can you please, please tell me what we’ve learned.
I know it sounds absurd, please tell me how Newt Gingrich could possibly have endorsed Thunder Thighs
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Aloha man, good nite!
Kini on November 5, 2009 at 12:24 AM
This is not normal. A new American presidency, especially this one, should not be in this much trouble 10 months into a four-year term.
Methinks it’s time for the WSJ to show Daniel Henninger the door, as he’s becoming more obtuse the more he writes for that page. I can think of quite a few recent Presidents for whom the above statement applies: Carter, Clinton, Ford, Truman, even Kennedy and Reagan (Oh, NOES!) to certain degrees. I can also think of quite a few pre-FDR Presidents that had this issue too.
Restlessness in dealing with new Presidents, much like restlessness in dealing with wars longer than a year or two, is a feature, not a bug.
BradSchwartze on November 5, 2009 at 12:35 AM
FTW!
29Victor on November 5, 2009 at 12:37 AM
I disagree. Here is what I see….
1>Republican establishment can’t ignore conservatives anymore. This inexperience bunch of folks sidelined GOP candidate and still managed significant portion of the vote.
2>Conservatives can’t win due to lack of institutional strength (party recognition, GOTV, Campaign experience etc.)
There are lessons for both sides:
1>Establishment GOP needs to start promoting/supporting conservative candidates. At the very least Fiscal Conservatives. If that does not happen there will be more of such situations.
2>Conservatives need to take control of GOP at grassroots level. Join the local party in droves. Primary liberal republicans with strong conservatives.
If both don’t work together mutual destruction is guaranteed. That in turn assures destruction of “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness”.
I did support Hoffman. Not because I am not a Republican anymore. Just that the candidate selected by republicans in this race was even liberal than democrat. It was more about teaching the party establishment morons a lesson. Get them to realize that if you don’t stand for anything, don’t count on my support. Rather my opposition is guaranteed in such a situation. And I will pay closer attention to primaries going forward. Also “not one red cent to NRCC, NRSC and RNC.”, until they prove they are worthy of trust and stand for something. In this case I think we won despite the defeat.
antisocial on November 5, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Karl Rove wrote a WSJ op-ed piece on Oct. 28 pointing to the races we should look at. In addition to the obvious ones, Rove highlighted a few others.
Rove: “If Republicans also win the races for lieutenant governor and attorney general [in Virginia] by five points or more, it will strengthen the case of those predicting a GOP ‘wave’ in 2010.”
Outcome: The GOP candidates won both offices by double digit margins (13-14 points).
Rove: “Also watch the races for the 100-member Virginia House of Delegates. Republicans are hoping to add four seats to the 53 they now have. The bigger the GOP gains, the larger the warning for Democrats nationally.”
Outcome: The GOP netted 5 seats, with a sixth too close to call.
“Finally, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court, Judge Joan Orie Melvin, is mounting a strong effort against Democrat Jack Panella, despite a $1 million ad blitz targeting her that’s bankrolled by Philadelphia trial lawyers. A GOP victory would indicate trouble for Democrats in a state Mr. Obama carried by 10 points.”
Outcome: Melvin won by 6 points, giving Republicans a 4-3 edge on the state supreme court.
The Philadelphia Inquirer: “Melvin’s victory shifts the political balance on the state’s most powerful bench to Republican, and could portend a re-energized conservative base in the 2010 gubernatorial and congressional elections.
“With 91 percent of ballots counted, Melvin had won every suburban county around Philadelphia except Montgomery, where Democrat Jack Panella of Easton led by only a few hundred votes.
” ‘It’s clear to me she won because of the wins in the Philadelphia suburbs, and that’s something other Republican statewide candidates have not been able to do in recent years,’ said G. Terry Madonna, professor and pollster at Franklin and Marshall College.”
sauropod on November 5, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Palin/Seven Percent Solution 2012!
gary4205 on November 5, 2009 at 1:15 AM
There is a revolution afoot. The times they are a’changin.
I was very surprised to see this article on the ultra-liberal wcbstv.com website:
The People Have Spoken: Lower Taxes Or You’re Gone
Stunning Results In Westchester, Nassau & N.J. Show That People Are Fed Up With Being Asked To Shoulder Load
Sharke on November 5, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Gibbs: “You can’t buy commercials on MSNBC for nothing.”
Bwahahahahahahahahaa!!!!!! Good gravy Gibbs! MSNBC has been the advertising department of the Obama White House and Chrissy is the lead cheerleader!
The irony of his statement is delicious!
csdeven on November 5, 2009 at 1:48 AM
“just got there late (with Hoffman).”
Too bad.
Let’s not repeat that mistake in NV to replace Harry Reid.
We need a REAL conservative – Sharron Angle. I have known her personally for over 3 years – she is a straight shooter – in both ways – literally and figuratively.
One of her major opponents is a lawyer – think tort reform will get his attention?
The other is former head of NV GOP. Enough said.
Check out Sharron on the issues.
fred5678 on November 5, 2009 at 2:10 AM
How would more time help a guy who needs more time to bone up on local issues? You really asked that question?
xblade on November 5, 2009 at 2:10 AM
We need a REAL conservative who sounds like he/she knows what he/she is talking about. Not saying this lady isn’t, I’m just making a point. Hoffman was not that, and that as much as anything contributed to his defeat.
Just running conservatives for the sake of running conservatives ain’t gonna get it done. If we don’t run competent, likable, well-spoken candidates, we’re not going to win anything.
xblade on November 5, 2009 at 2:18 AM
Lowden should be the rep nominee to oust that despicable turd Reid.
csdeven on November 5, 2009 at 2:25 AM
Sharron is all of that, and more.
Just saw Sharron speak at the NVRA versus Tark and Lowden – Sharron easily had the best received talk.
I’ve also seen her speak versus Dean Heller, who beat her by only 400 votes in 2006 GOP primary. He was the incumbent NV Sec. State at the time (and now doing a great job in DC, by the way!) Check out Heller’s votes – voted against TARP, etc., etc. You’ll get more of the same from Sharron.
I’ve known her personally for 3 1/2 years, flown her around the state, etc. A real class act, and the genuine article.
Check her out in these interviews.
fred5678 on November 5, 2009 at 3:34 AM
Interesting story on the front page of the Post, as we focus on the Republican-True Conservative dichotomy, and the meaning of Tuesday’s vote: “Va. Republicans pledge to steer towards center”.
Apparently McDonnell is not convinced that Hoffmaneesque strategies are not necessarily the way to win.
Bleeds Blue on November 5, 2009 at 6:04 AM
Yep. The Beltway Brains shoved him over the finishline. And they think THEY are going to pick OUR candidate in 2012… THEY had better think again.
I will NOT vote for Mitty or Hucky. Period. Or Pawlenty, or Can’tor…
I WILL vote for Sarah, Bachman, Liz Cheney, Mike Pence.
stenwin77 on November 5, 2009 at 7:12 AM
No, more than anything else I want political leaders to leave me alone!
Martha on November 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM
New description soon to be popular in the political lexicon for RINO’s losing in primary’s:
“He was Hoffmaned.”
BigAlSouth on November 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM
I will tell you the most important thing we can learn from this election. Reject the pessimists who say we are all doomed! Believe God! Persistence breaks resistance!
JellyToast on November 5, 2009 at 7:35 AM
Nope. I think it will be, “He was T.P.’d”
piglet on November 5, 2009 at 7:40 AM
And this is before the bill come into focus for paying for all the unicorns and windmill powered shovels and socks.
Itchee Dryback on November 5, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Yup, I am getting damned tired of the elitist in the GOP deciding who I get to vote for. And then trying to push a genuine POS candidate off on me.
doriangrey on November 5, 2009 at 7:51 AM
The Seals
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: Zech. 1.8 ; 6.3 and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 ¶ And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: Zech. 1.8 ; 6.2 and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; Zech. 6.2, 6 and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7 ¶ And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. Jer. 15.3 · Ezek. 5.12, 17 ; 14.21
Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 7:57 AM
Newt one-upped Cheney by shooting himself in the face at a NY duck hunt.
maverick muse on November 5, 2009 at 7:58 AM
Whoever goes up against Obama in 2012 is probibly someone who is not in the public eye yet. Someone relatively unknown at this time.
LODGE4 on November 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM
I liked the reference to one of John Wayne’s greatest roles in “Red River”. Yall know how to make me happy….
kelley in virginia on November 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM
In today’s internet/TV world, a presidential candidate can come from nowhere in a hurry (like bambi). but it probably takes years to develop all those ACORN/Soros ties.
kelley in virginia on November 5, 2009 at 8:01 AM
I took the reference to be that of the white horse – as in saviour. BTW, it looks like the seals are in the wrong order- we’ve already had the fourth.
OldEnglish on November 5, 2009 at 8:08 AM
At first, I did too, but I see ominous things that could be on the horizon. I noted that too in the quote I copied, afterwards.
Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 8:10 AM
That’s a good analogy. I was thinking about this the other day, politicians will be courting the independents big time. If you claim to be a dem or Republican, well no one cares, your mind is made up already. That’s my impression anyhoo.
4shoes on November 5, 2009 at 8:27 AM
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