Lindsey Graham on NY-23 fallout: Leave the RINOs alone!

posted at 9:00 pm on November 4, 2009 by Allahpundit

How RINO is too RINO for Graham? It’s unclear. Even he’s sour on Scozzafava, but apparently only because she was too far left for the “mainstream” in NY-23, not because she was too far left, period. Like Ace, I’m happy to help build a bridge between centrists and conservatives, but a bridge has to end somewhere. Where does this one end? Or should we simply ask all Democrats to declare themselves Republicans and have a one-party system that encompasses everyone from DeMint to Pelosi according to whatever’s “mainstream” in their district?

“To those people who are pursuing purity, you’ll become a club not a party,” Graham told POLITICO in the Capitol Wednesday. “Those people who are trying to embrace conservatism in a thoughtful way that fits the region and the state and the district are going to do well. Conservativism is an asset. Blind ideology is not.”

Graham, who has sparred with his party’s right wing on issues ranging from climate change to Guantanamo Bay to Sonia Sotomayor’s Supreme Court nomination, warned that those concerned about the state of the GOP should help find candidates who are electable — not ones who adhere to a particular type of ideology. And he said that both the GOP nominee, Dede Scozzafava and the conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman were both out of the mainstream of the upstate New York district – which lead to the victory of Democrat Bill Owens Tuesday night.

“If your goal is to make everybody just like you in terms of ideology, that’s a self-centered approach to politics,” Graham said.

If you believe your ideology is the best course for America, why wouldn’t you want everyone to be just like you? Does this guy think Obama sits around the White House at night, musing, “Gee, it’d be terrible if everybody thought just like I did”? Compromise when you must but win when you can. Sometimes I think Graham has it the other way around.

Follow the link for more, including kind words about Carly Fiorina. DeMint’s backing Chuck DeVore out there, which means we’re possibly staring at another Crist/Rubio-type nuclear war in the making. Meanwhile, via Think Progress, here’s Graham touting his deal with the left on cap and trade. The takeaway: “The green economy is coming. We can either follow or lead.”


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I do not how the same state that can elect Jim DeMint and Joe Wilson can swallow the bull$hit that this impostor spews out.

South Carolina – please stop this insanity.

DUMP GRAHAM

J.J. Sefton on November 5, 2009 at 5:41 AM

South Carolinal, I love ya, but this guy is no Republican. Please make him toast in the next election. Retire this dope and do your Republican friends (and yourselves) a big favor.

MainelyRight on November 5, 2009 at 5:56 AM

Our goal a$$wipe is to not bankrupt the nation, knock ourselves back to the stone age and redistribute 230+yrs of political and economic gains in the name of phantasmal fiction to fatten the purses of Al Gore, Goldman Sachs & UN deadbeats!

Succinct. Well said.

MainelyRight on November 5, 2009 at 6:00 AM

When one thinks of the word leader, the name of Lindsey Graham does NOT come to mind. When the media blow in his ear, he will follow their siren call to the faddish popular anytime. He has no principles,

onlineanalyst on November 5, 2009 at 6:18 AM

Conservativism is an asset. Blind ideology is not.

He doesn’t have a clue what conservatism is.

Squiggy on November 5, 2009 at 6:21 AM

I do not how the same state that can elect Jim DeMint and Joe Wilson can swallow the bull$hit that this impostor spews out.

South Carolina – please stop this insanity.

DUMP GRAHAM

J.J. Sefton on November 5, 2009 at 5:41 AM

We have open primaries in which the left votes in.

Graham wouldn’t have a shot at a real contender, and a Democrat isn’t going to win, so the left votes for Graham in this state.

MadDogF on November 5, 2009 at 6:35 AM

RINOs should not be in positions of power …

tarpon on November 5, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Has this guy read his own party’s platform lately? He needs to refresh himself on what being Republican means, and to not be so critical of those who somehow take literally the words in said platform.

unclesmrgol on November 5, 2009 at 7:11 AM

I’m sick of Snowe, Collins, McLame, Grahamnesty and all the other ilk who are in office to be liked by the Dems and libs, not to represent the philosophy of their party and vote according to the wishes of their constituency.

Get on board, or get OUT!

Ricohoc on November 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM

He fancies himself cute in his Republican jersey. And then he sits on the other side of the field for the game with his real friends.

beatcanvas on November 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM

Lindsey Graham needs to be “Hoffmaned.”

BigAlSouth on November 5, 2009 at 7:16 AM

…both the GOP nominee, Dede Scozzafava and the conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman were both out of the mainstream of the upstate New York district – which lead to the victory of Democrat Bill Owens Tuesday night. –Grahamessy

Whisling past the grave yard!
Their coming for you next pal!

HEADLINE:
Conservative unknown topples GOP $$$annointed RINO –
Senator Jacka$$ from SC pees in his pants and shoes!

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on November 5, 2009 at 7:17 AM

What the hell are “green jobs”? You can only have so many people building and installing those ugly huge windmills that I notice only a 3rd every seem to be spinning, or building & installing solar panels for buildings. So what does that leave? Govt. co-oped inspectors or green policy police to make sure everyone has changed to those new dim bulbs, only used one pc. of TP per wipe, and eaten their pet.

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 7:19 AM

F. U. Graham. Defund the RINOs! The Republican Party has what most would consider a conservative platform and therefore should be considered the conservative party. How many Republican/conservative ideals can you be against and still be able to be a Republican?

Sporty1946 on November 5, 2009 at 7:27 AM

And he said that both the GOP nominee, Dede Scozzafava and the conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman were both out of the mainstream of the upstate New York district – which lead to the victory of Democrat Bill Owens Tuesday night.
From the looks of it, Grahamnesty is the first out of the gate to endorse Bill Owens’ ’10 re-election.

kevinkristy on November 5, 2009 at 7:36 AM

Lindsey, if you’re going to stay a wimp Republican, a Democrat-Lite and you can’t see the Tsunami of conservatism coming at you ready to wash the whole stinking bunch of blue blood, country club Republicans away, then you’re even less intelligent than you look or sound.

Lindsey, better start running, that 100′ wave is about to hit the beach

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 7:37 AM

GRAHAM: The Top-Down Centrally Planned Economy is Coming.

Fixed, for stating where my bridge doesn’t end, as we already have a party that represents that view.

MNHawk on November 5, 2009 at 7:52 AM

Mr Grahamnesty, STFU

NoFanofLibs on November 5, 2009 at 7:59 AM

You know the strange part, I’ve always thought South Carolina was more of an in your face politics state, a bit bolder than to elect Sen. Milquetoast

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 8:05 AM

He’s standing there with John Kerry-one of the most liberal, conniving, say-anything-to-please-whoever-I’m-speaking-to liberals around. This is the big tent freak show indeed.

Alfresco on November 5, 2009 at 8:10 AM

RINOs are DINOSAURs and we will extinct them from the GOP.

marklmail on November 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM

“If your goal is to make everybody just like you in terms of ideology, that’s a self-centered approach to politics,” Graham said.

That’s funny coming from a politician who has been trying to drive conservatives from the party.

MarkTheGreat on November 5, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Little Lindsey Scuzzy-fevah, stoking conservatives to keep RINO-hunting. Thanks for the reminder, Lindsey!

james23 on November 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Graham talks like a man (debatable) afraid for his future, not the party’s.

SKYFOX on November 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM

should help find candidates who are electable — not ones who adhere to a particular type of ideology

Just like Newt – getting elected is the be all and end all. Who cares if a politician sells you down the river as long as they have an R after their name. /s

katiejane on November 5, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Graham talks like a Sunday school teacher talking to a group of 10 year olds. He should man up and decide what the party stands for. No one in NY was talking about purity and the media continually stated that the differences between Hoffman and skuzafava were abortion and same sex marriage. This is blatantly not true and Graham knows it. How in the hell does this thing get re-elected?

inspectorudy on November 5, 2009 at 9:49 AM

You can forgive ignorance, but you can never forgive stupidity….. in Grahmnesty’s instance, it’s rampant stupidity. Come on SC, what the hell are you doing?

ultracon on November 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Grahmn is not a conservative, he is an appeaser and will change tack with whichever breeze blows by. Unfortunatly spending his time in DC he is following the wrong weather systems.

Koa on November 5, 2009 at 10:05 AM

So when is Lindsey up for reelection and where is there a Conservative to challenge him?

This guy isn’t bipartisan he is a “colluder” there is a difference.

Dr Evil on November 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM

South Carolina you got yourself a vain, self-righteous, arrogant skirt wearing Arlen Specter. If you think he’s bad now boys & girls, just give him a few more Ice Cream Seasons.

try again later on November 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Since Lindsay has no shame its no use asking him to resign and as a sitting Senator it takes multiple lightning strikes to get him out of office.

Speakup on November 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM

This guy turns my stomach. Please, NC, Lindsey needs visits, calls, e-mails, and a good kick in the pants.

mobydutch on November 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM

oops! South Carolina

mobydutch on November 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Somebody bind and gag this queer and throw him back in the closet where he belongs.

Percy_Peabody on November 5, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Every one needs to call the RNC and start complaining and demanding that the RNC kick out the rino’s (Agent’s provocateur’s) If the RNC hears it long enough, loud and clear enough they will have to act. I called told them I had one foot out the door because of the NY rino.
If you are of the same mind 202-863-8500 RNC HQ.

ColdWarrior57 on November 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM

We have open primaries in which the left votes in.

Graham wouldn’t have a shot at a real contender, and a Democrat isn’t going to win, so the left votes for Graham in this state.
-MadDogF

Demonstrating again why open primaries are a Bad Idea.
Maybe NC needs a Conservative Party with closed primaries so an actual conservative can challenge Graham.

LarryD on November 5, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Any chance that Hoffman will move to SC and run against this clown?

pgrossjr on November 5, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Mr. Graham should reread Mark 8:36

“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

scullymj on November 5, 2009 at 11:33 AM

The GOP needs to thin the herd and get rid of all these Rinos. The core beliefs in Conservatism is what will bring the party back on top, not “reaching across the aisle”.

Ray V. on November 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM

The one thing that can bring everyone on the center right together is small government. Unfortunately, the Pharisaical GOP does not want to reduce government, they want to expand it.

True_King on November 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM

We ran a total caveman here in Virginia and won by 18%. If they run a Rino in your district vote 3rd party or demoncat.

Jerricho68 on November 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

If you don’t bother to run a conservative on either side of the ticket, then a conservative can’t possibly win…

How does that help conservatism or anyone who believes in their principles more than a party that stands for whatever it needs to at the time to get elected?

I guess I don’t understand how this works. I’m thinking that having an election where the two candidates think different things and there is a choice to make is how voting should work… I didn’t realize running two identical candidates with different letters after their name is the goal.

When did that become the goal again?

gekkobear on November 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I am from South Carolina and I am thoroughly embarrassed by this nut-cake. I voted for his democrat opponent last year because I figured if we were going to get a liberal-leaning senator, I at least wanted the genuine article. The radio here is full of spots asking people to contact Graham about his tax and cap compromise thing with the devil, John Kerry. I tried faxing my letter – - 8 times. All failed either for the fax being busy, or unable to connect. I hope this dolt is getting an eye full.

kens on November 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM

i·de·ol·o·gy [ dee ólləjee, ìddee ólləjee ] (plural i·de·ol·o·gies)

noun

Definition:

1. system of social beliefs: a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas forming the basis of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program

2. meaningful belief system: a set of beliefs, values, and opinions that shapes the way a person or a group such as a social class thinks, acts, and understands the world

Maybe Graham-cracker should stop using words he doesn’t understand.

BobMbx on November 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM

So little Lindsay has already ceded to the left “the green economy”. Why would we expect anything else from him? Certainly not a fight! People like him, McCain, the Maine sisters, Specter, etc., have cost us dearly. With the way the Dems are pushing all these bills through without even letting the R’s be a part of them, I will expect, if and when our team ever is in power again, them to do the same. But they won’t, because we always play nice and I’m tired of it.

silvernana on November 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM

I don’t blame SC for being conned by this lying POS, at least not initially. I even used to think he was a conservative. But at some point you have to open your eyes or you just keep walking into walls. Come on, SC, you know you can do better than this weasel. If there were still a Confederacy, this slimeball would be selling secrets to the north.

SKYFOX on November 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Is this guy for real? Reminds me of Spector! Watch for him to jump parties as the Conservative base continues to gain support. He proves how out of touch the Republican ‘leaders’ are.

shov74 on November 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM

We are going to need a lot of cheap labor for these green jobs . Open the gates Grammy !

borntoraisehogs on November 5, 2009 at 12:55 PM

The more we complain about Graham’s policies and values, the more “in your face”, he becomes. He has NO shame!!!!!

mobydutch on November 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM

WTF!! Hey Rino Boy Lindsey would you just pick a side and stay on it? I don’t think that you are doing any good with your wishy washy stances. I used to respect you but now you have shown that you are sofa king spineless that you can’t take a stand, you should just stay home. Take your politcal correctness crap sandwhich and take a big bite yourself. I hope the people of you state put you on the unemployment line ASAP!

shawno on November 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Lindsey in Latin means dufus

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 2:02 PM

“If your goal is to make everybody just like you in terms of ideology, that’s a self-centered approach to politics,” Graham said.

We don’t want our candidates to be like us…just not like you…

right2bright on November 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM

This is quite charming coming from a pretty boy with no core values.

Please step across the isle, Lindsey, and spare us the further drama.

molonlabe28 on November 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Hey little Lindsey a word for you from the upstate of S.C. the Rino hunt is on

thmcbb on November 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM

“Price carbon.” Another wrench in the gears of the American engine.

paraff on November 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM

We call him “Little DeDe.”

james23 on November 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Lindsey Graham opens the door to his inner self with the quote- “Conservativism is an asset. Blind ideology is not.”

An asset? This implies it is a tool, a means to an end, not a point of view, not a principle, just a tool. A tool like having a silver tongue, the ability to lie with a straight face, and something to whip out when you find yourself losing in your next campaign, which is where I hope Graham finds himself.

You watch, he’ll discover it just in time.

archer52 on November 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Time for the GOP to throw Mr. Graham under the bus…

BLKandPRD on November 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

To me, Graham is a worse problem than Obama. As long as we have this kind of RINO on our side, we are doomed. Citizenship for illegals, Govt. run healthcare, Cap & Tax and the ridiculous skyrocketing of energy prices (and necessarily everything else) Graham will make happen with his reaching across the aisle and compromise. God deliver us from such people. South Carolina deliver us from such people.

Christian Conservative on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Every one needs to call the RNC and start complaining and demanding that the RNC kick out the rino’s (Agent’s provocateur’s) If the RNC hears it long enough, loud and clear enough they will have to act…..
ColdWarrior57 on November 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Every one needs to call the RNC and start complaining and demanding that the RNC kick out the rino’s (Agent’s provocateur’s) and tell the RNC that NO MONEY will be coming their way until they stop backing/supporting the likes of Lindsey Graham and John McVain. MONEY TALKS, nothing else works. If the RNC hears it long enough, loud and clear enough they will have to act. …

FIFY!!

belad on November 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM

When I remember Graham is from South Carolina I try to visualize what the type of voter would look like if they voted for this piece of garbage. It is usually a lifeform with three heads with single eyes in their foreheads, then I wake up and remember that Demint and Wilson are South Carolina. So I must be having a nightmare and somebody like Graham couldn’t possibly exist, much less be elected from that state.

volsense on November 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

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