Gingrich on NY-23: Conservatives have every right to be angry at me

posted at 9:42 pm on November 4, 2009 by Allahpundit

People are buzzing about this online but I’m not sure why. “I regret deeply that she was chosen,” he says of Scozzafava in an apparent reversal of his prior support. Except it’s not a reversal: He admitted to Andrew Wilkow way back on October 21 that she’s not the person he would have nominated. His endorsement was always strategic, to support Republican leaders at the local level and dissuade third-party challenges next year.

Why Republicans in a district where there’s no primary should defer to party leaders instead of rallying behind their preferred candidate is a question left unanswered, but that may be because it’s unasked. Ah well.

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Newt isn’t the enemy and treating him like one isn’t going to help defeat them.

notagool on November 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Not an enemy in the leftist sense, but he lost his way long ago (e.g. appearing with Sharpton and Pelosi)

Gingrich is OK. He gets it. He’s a good politician and a good conservative.

jaime on November 4, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Wrong! He has serious ground to make up before he’s trusted again.

macummings on November 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Newt has walked he path of Peggy Noonan. He is going to need real rehabilitation and long suffering in the conservative dog house. When he starts talking people I’m changing the channel. Antipathy thy name is Gingrich.

Theworldisnotenough on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

I completely disagreed with Newt’s decision to support Dede. She was way beyond even the worst RINO. Whether he was honoring the decision of the local pols who selected her, or even if he erroneously believed she would have represented NY-23 fairly, he was wrong. He absolutely made a mistake, and he knows it.

That said, how small will the conservative tent eventually be if everyone who makes a mistake is ostracized and barred forever. This exclusivity thing is disconcerting. You can’t err, can’t work bipartisan relationships, can’t deviate a tad from any sanctioned conservative ideal, can’t consider alternative viewpoints, and God forbid, you can’t ever have been a Democrat. So when does the conservative tent actually hold open enrollment? Is there a limit on the number admitted? Does one need to sign a contract? Promise of first born?

If the goal is to hold to neoclassical conservative values, then great, I’m all in. For the most part, I value the same things you do– limited government, social and fiscal responsibility and pragmatism, strong military, free market capitalism- virtually the works. The difference seems to be that I believe to win elections and defeat Barry’s cultural takeover, the tent needs to welcome new members and even forgive veteran members when they stray. Perhaps, the forgiveness thing is the former Democrat in me. I do forgive, and I think Newt deserves it.

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

I have always been a fan, but the above commentators are right, Newt needs to make the long ‘walk of shame’ back from Noonparkerfrumbrookistan to earn our trust.

Knott Buyinit on November 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM

[RINO in Name Only on November 4, 2009 at 10:30 PM]

Two great points. A quarter of the political donnybrook over this race the result of Newt looking before he leapt in his endorsement of Scuzzafava. Another quarter was the result of attempted smackdowns of those who supported Hoffman.

Palin and Thompson seem to have good sixth senses. Newt just doesn’t seem to have it any more or he’s too busy and just uses some off the shelf generic Eightball software.

Dusty on November 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Newt: “It wasn’t ME that endorsed her – it was the guy whose knee I was sitting on and who has his hand stuck in my back”.

darwin-t on November 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM

As I’ve said before and I’ll say it again: Gingrich is part of the problem, not the solution.

He’ll compromise anything to “win.” He’s in it for all the wrong reasons.

TheBigOldDog on November 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Newt’s a Catholic now, right? Then he can do penance … lots and lots of penance.

SagebrushPuppet on November 4, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Newt has walked he path of Peggy Noonan. He is going to need real rehabilitation and long suffering in the conservative dog house. When he starts talking people I’m changing the channel. Antipathy thy name is Gingrich.

Theworldisnotenough on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

What he needs is to be completely ignored and simply fade away.

TheBigOldDog on November 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Newt likes to talk about problems. We may disagree about the way to deal with these problems, but we can all agree that the problems exist.

Unfortunately, Newt started talking about a problem that does not exist: catastrophic man-made global warming. This enormous scam is so idiotic that I pity the believers.

It’s helpful though: as soon as I hear someone go on about how awful AGW is, I can tune them out. It’s actually a lovely litmus test.

July 10 on November 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM

I am not ready to throw Newt under the bus yet but I do want to throw him off the couch.

Put a leash on him and he can bark for us.

Geochelone on November 4, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Agreed, but make sure it’s a short leash.

redridinghood on November 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM

His endorsement was always strategic


It’s the antithesis of strategic
. Strategic thinking is by its nature, long-term. Backing her was short-term thinking. A major compromise of all core principles for a short-term gain. A gain, which, in the long-run, would have been harmful to conservatism by weakening its foundation.

TheBigOldDog on November 4, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Newt should just retire and do Geicko commericals.

He can lick his wounds and his eyeballs.

profitsbeard on November 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM

As long as he has learned from his mistake then Newt is still ok with me.

- The Cat

P.S. As in get behind the Conservative and fight hard. Not settle and say, well ummmm let’s just go with it.

MirCat on November 4, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Perhaps, the forgiveness thing is the former Democrat in me. I do forgive, and I think Newt deserves it.

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Actually, believe it or not, we Republicans are capable of forgiveness as well.

Except for Cheney. Don’t screw with that guy, he’s f***ing crazy.

And watch out for Palin, she’ll shoot your dog.

Other than that, we’re pretty nice people.

RINO in Name Only on November 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Agreed, but make sure it’s a short leash.

redridinghood on November 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM

If he doesn’t sit pretty, then no chew bone and he has to go out to the dog house.

Geochelone on November 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM

@anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Great post! Of course, my approval is worthless. I’m just a RINO for my views on some social issues. It doesn’t matter how fiscally conservative I am, nor do my ideas about foreign policy matter.

thuja on November 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM

RINO in Name Only on November 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM

LOL

thuja on November 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Your ideas matter to me. Not that I matter, though.

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Newt started talking about a problem that does not exist: catastrophic man-made global warming. This enormous scam is so idiotic that I pity the believers.

He’s right in there with: Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and company.

Throw in the PSAs with the Queen of Plastic Surgery and the Rev Al Race-baiter and it’s more than I can take.

Newt has wanted the limelight, the attention, the acceptance of the establishment. And he’s moved from promoting conservatism to promoting the Republican brand….and whoever get’s ponied up by a local board to represent it regardless of their views.

Newt is part of the problem. He’s changed. He’s not the same Newt that created the Contract with America and led many good years in the House for this country.

Not anymore. We of the younger generation (I’m 33) prefer what genuine standard-bearers are left standing today to those who “use” to do it but who have been coopted by the dazzle of Beltway attention.

JoeinTX on November 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I still haven’t heard him ‘splain away that Crap and Trade BS with him snugging up to that box of rocks Pelosi.

rgranger on November 4, 2009 at 11:23 PM

“Except for Cheney. Don’t screw with that guy, he’s f***ing crazy.

And watch out for Palin, she’ll shoot your dog.”

Just exactly what has Cheney done that makes him “f***ing crazy,” and what makes you think Palin would shoot your dog?

What, you watch Olbermann every night?

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Are you kidding? What has Cheney done to make him crazy? Don’t you read TIME magazine? He was on the cover, shrouded in darkness, like a sinister evil bad person. Geez, get with the program!

RINO in Name Only on November 4, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Newt, go away. I mean it.

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM

It’s not as if Newt has to endorse every Repub candidate if he doesn’t agree with them just because there might be a 3rd party candidate run. There is the option to be silent. If he didn’t agree with her he should not have endorsed her, strategic or no.

LtBarnwell02 on November 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM

So many suckers on here. The professional politician does the politically expedient thing to do and so many are immediately duped.

Amazing…most of you have learned nothing and still treat politics as a professional sport.

The results of an election are simply a reflection of a much larger societal problem. But you guys keep thinking if some phony conservative GOP’r wins more seats in 2010 then something will be accomplished.

ClassicCon on November 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Since so many people do read Time magazine and believe that crap…..you just never know these days!

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Dick Cheney is part of the solution. I don’t care what anyone says, he was a still is a good looking man.

http://www.democracyfornewmexico.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/31/cheneyhighschool.jpg

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Really late to this but regarding my opinion on Newt….A couch sitting with Nancy Pelosi… nuff said.

sandee on November 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Dick can watch my dog. Sarah can watch my kids. Both amazing people.

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Really late to this but regarding my opinion on Newt….A couch sitting with Nancy Pelosi… nuff said.

sandee on November 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Sandee, you are so right. Newt sitting with Nancy is like Pappy O’Daniel sitting with that clean sweep guy.

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:37 PM

“Dick can watch my dog. Sarah can watch my kids. Both amazing people.”

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Heck, I’d marry Dick in a hearbeat! Cheney/Palin…now there’s one I could really get behind. They are amazing people.

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:37 PM

That said, how small will the conservative tent eventually be if everyone who makes a mistake is ostracized and barred forever.

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

The thing is,. it isn’t just one mistake. Newt has made a string of bad decisions.

- Buying into Global Warming hysteria
- Flirting with Cap and Trade
- Palling around with Pelosi and Sharpton
- Throwing his full support (and $1MM of GOP money) behind “Double D” scozzafava

Sorry, but given all of that, he has lost conservative creds with me and most other fiscal conservatives. I can only conclude that he’s a RINO.

It’s going to take more than a couple of appearances on FOX News to regain his credibility.

UltimateBob on November 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM

I don’t want a stinking tent. I want to be left alone.

bloggless on November 4, 2009 at 11:42 PM

fronclynne on November 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

It takes a person of very weak character to even attempt to compare the interactions between Newt and the base to something akin to spousal battery. You are a disgusting pig. May Karma come back and bite you in the rear end for the utter lack of mercy you show.

BradSchwartze on November 4, 2009 at 11:46 PM

But you guys keep thinking if some phony conservative GOP’r wins more seats in 2010 then something will be accomplished.

Ed Zachary.

80 new McCains, Sheas, Voinoviches, Kirks, and Scozzafazzas mean what? More “compromise”……..”working across the aisle”…..”reaching out to the President”…….more accepting higher taxes in exchange for lower deficits?

I understand that moderate GOP’ers will get elected in the Northeast and Cali………but Missouri? Ohio? Tennessee? Colorado?

More votes went against Owens than for in the 23rd and if the local GOP board leader and Newt hadn’t F’d up the entire process it certainly would have been different.

JoeinTX on November 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Speakup on November 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM

When you and others make statements like “I’m conservative, not necessarily Republican,” you get into the same validation trap that Newt finds himself in on a regular basis.

BradSchwartze on November 4, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Let’s just say it like it is…and this one goes to Allah…

The “moderates” as they like to call themselves have been jacking with BOTH parties for a long time now. A bunch of Schizophrenics that vote for Reagan and then can justify voting for Obama? Give me a break. Here’s the bottom line.

Vote with the Dems and get all the liberal social programs your hearts desire and a whole bunch that you’ll hate. The Dems are about control…of everything. You’ll have your social programs but no job. You’ll have your social programs but no money, food, education, health or sense of purpose. Or basic freedoms. Everything will be decided for you.

Or you can vote for the Republicans and be safe from all the nutjobs in the world, earn a decent living, raise your family the way YOU want to raise them, feed them what YOU want to feed them and spend your money like YOU want to spend it. You can use that money to save the planet, the animals, buy carbon credits, whatever floats your boat. You can even speak out and say what You want to say even if it’s critical of those in power.

Quit jerking the country back and forth from prosperity to the brink of destitution. Pick what’s important to YOU because if the Dems keep getting elected what You want won’t mean a damn thing.

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:52 PM

deidre on November 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Can we call this yet another example of Sarah Palin’s Revenge? You know, where some idiot gets all condescending and mean when talking about Sarah, only to be followed by that person’s own personal/professional Waterloo?

Let’s list all the examples: I’ll start with David Letterman.

BradSchwartze on November 4, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Let’s see Brad…how about Obama, Reid and Pelosi? Can we all say “death panels?”

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Perhaps, the forgiveness thing is the former Democrat in me. I do forgive, and I think Newt deserves it.

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Forgiveness is fine and should be something everyone strives to do. Trust is earned and Newt has some long thinking to do and position changes to make before he should be considered a ‘leader’ or someone of valued opinion. Have you all forgotten the cozy couch Klimate-KoolAid sipping public service ad he did with the queen ‘B’ Nancy. He was wrong in NY-23 because he was wrong about glow-ball warming and nobody called him out for it. He has a lot of penitence to do before I put any stock in what he has to say. BTW, he is still on the wrong side of ‘climate change’.

belad on November 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM

I am sure someone has already said this. Newt appears to have reached the stage in his importance that he felt it was mandatory to support someone. He had three choices, be a man of The Party, be a conservative, or hush. He chose incorrectly. I still like to listen to him and since I never considered him a leader I am disappointed instead of annoyed.

Cindy Munford on November 5, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:52 PM

If only it were that simple. The government gets bigger every year regardless of the party in power.

July 10 on November 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Why Republicans in a district where there’s no primary should defer to party leaders instead of rallying behind their preferred candidate is a question left unanswered, but that may be because it’s unasked.

I’ll tell you something else that hasn’t been asked AP. Maybe someone with resources will ask. What is the back story here? Jerri Thompson was on to this district for a long time and evidently got involved when she learned that Hoffman was announced as a candidate with a Party. Now if she was bugging Hannity (like she said) and with Fred’s resources, I find it hard to believe that Newt didn’t know this was in the wind when he endorsed what’s her name. Then Palin jumps in probably at Jerri’s behest and the boat begins to start rockin’! So … what’s the back story?

Texas Gal on November 5, 2009 at 12:16 AM

Newt has walked he path of Peggy Noonan. He is going to need real rehabilitation and long suffering in the conservative dog house. When he starts talking people I’m changing the channel. Antipathy thy name is Gingrich.

Theworldisnotenough on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Very well said.

TXMomof3 on November 5, 2009 at 12:29 AM

Conservative tv/radio hosts need to stop booking Gingrich. Not only did this election show that Newt is completely irrelevant, but it displayed his true cowardice. What kind of gutless scum relies on the political winds instead of sound principle to live, govern, or in Newt’s case – expel nonsensical hot air. Nobody is listening because he burnt all his bridges.

chicagojedi on November 5, 2009 at 12:35 AM

Non-apology apology Newt, and could that “setup” you and Hannity did on the TV show have been any more staged?

F- Mr. Gingrich. We Conservatives have had our fill

gradyman on November 5, 2009 at 12:42 AM

He’s human.

He makes mistakes.

Now don’t do it again.

You-Eh-Vee on November 5, 2009 at 12:43 AM

I don’t know anybody mad at Newt . Because none of us listen to him or care what he says he could never let us down .

borntoraisehogs on November 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM

Newt’s a Catholic now, right? Then he can do penance … lots and lots of penance.

SagebrushPuppet on November 4, 2009 at 10:57 PM

It’s not about guilt of Newt.

It’s about lack of judgment.

I will never listen to him again in matters of discerning good candidates.

TheAlamos on November 5, 2009 at 12:54 AM

His endorsement was always strategic

It’s the antithesis of strategic. Strategic thinking is by its nature, long-term. Backing her was short-term thinking. A major compromise of all core principles for a short-term gain. A gain, which, in the long-run, would have been harmful to conservatism by weakening its foundation.

TheBigOldDog on November 4, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Exactly. It was tactical – to win 04 Nov 09. Nevermind that come next year, it’d be hard to dislodge an incumbent RINO gone bad. The tactic failed on a second point in that replacing an “R” with just another “R” wasn’t going to derail Peloser.

Strategically, this event would have been the perfect time to test whether putting up a real conservative would bring the moderates or not. Only then could the GOP validate the notion that conservatives wouldn’t bring in the votes next year. Epic fail, but then what do you expect from 0-lite Elites at the RNC, et al?

That goes for M. Steele, as well. I liked him as a pundit, but I hardly think “Rappin’ The Vote” RNC style would bring in the votes necessary to replace lost conservative voters.

AH_C on November 5, 2009 at 1:00 AM

Its not about validation, its not about Newt, its about character or the lack of it and the damage caused as a result.

Speakup on November 5, 2009 at 1:01 AM

HE SHOULD HAVE REFUSED TO ENDORSE SCUZZYFUZZY

It’s called common sense.

If it sounds bad, smells bad, it must be bad.

Kini on November 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM

Newt is tainted goods; he’s been compromised with his desire to get along with the left. Global warming, visits to the Obama WH, paling around with Howard Dean, etc.

Another thing wrong with Newt is that his intellegence gets him into trouble. He’s smart enough to know what it takes for Conservatives to win and he’s smart enough to know what it takes for Liberals to win–sometimes he doesn’t choose wisely.

ConservativeTony on November 5, 2009 at 1:10 AM

Newt can go to hell. Damned windsock.

rayra on November 5, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Thank you for giving us permission to be angry with you Newt.

Now FO!

csdeven on November 5, 2009 at 1:39 AM

fuhgeddaboudit? no way. what’s a Newt?

13blackcats on November 5, 2009 at 1:42 AM

The difference seems to be that I believe to win elections and defeat Barry’s cultural takeover, the tent needs to welcome new members and even forgive veteran members when they stray.

In other words, you like being a sucker for those who flip flop around for politics sake.

The problem is people like you want the tent to be so big that members who believe in Barry’s agenda are welcomed with open arms, and in some cases nominated for office. No thank you. I’m not going to be for cap and tax just because Republicans pass it instead of Democrats. I’m not into winning for winnings sake.

xblade on November 5, 2009 at 1:53 AM

People are buzzing about this online but I’m not sure why

Really? Not sure why? That says a lot about you.

Ugly on November 5, 2009 at 2:03 AM

Go ahead and TRY to cover your ass, Newt, it won’t work anymore.

nelsonknows on November 5, 2009 at 2:33 AM

Newt screwed up. I get where he was coming from, third parties sink ships, what he missed was that this was a ship that needed to be sunk. If you show me two liberals who are going to vote like liberals, one Democrat, one Republican, I’ll take the Democrat. The Democrat votes like a Democrat, no story there, the Republican votes like a Democrat, it’s “Look how bipartisan the Democrats are”.
Conservatives are the core of the party, and when we’re ignored the party suffers. That said, there’s a real danger in getting into a pissing contest over who’s the purest conservative, because we’ll end up with the same hollow crap we’ve got now. We need to remember it’s not for a lack of lip service and hollow gestures that got us here, it’s us accepting that as being sufficient.
Look at the reality. Newt ran the Republican revolution. He took the knees out from under President Clinton, and turned what would have otherwise been 8 very liberal years into 6 years where bureaucracy and regulations shrunk, and the budget got balanced. For everyone willing to spout off stupid litmus tests of their conservatism, there isn’t anyone who can point to more conservative accomplishments than Newt.
This shouldn’t be about ego. This shouldn’t be about making anyone who errs from what the self proclaimed arch-conservatives deem appropriate kiss the ring. We need people who really believe in these things, and that means putting the superficial garbage aside.
Conservatives should be Republicans and Republicans should be conservatives. Although it was misapplied under these circumstances, the idea Newt was backing, that third party candidates run a big risk of screwing themselves and everyone anywhere near them, is frequently legitimate. Principles are only worth something when they’re understood and balanced with pragmatism, and getting upset about Newt’s role in a symbolically rich moment in Republican history is neither principled or pragmatic. It’s vanity.

galenrox on November 5, 2009 at 2:40 AM

It is my belief that neoconservatives lost the last election. When you have Democrat and Democrat light choice, I don’t want nether. The Republican party has been taken over by appeasers and neocons. Newt has pandered to the progressives. Legislation is the problem. We need sweeping reform, that I’m not sure the RNC can do. Too many Republican Legislators have been infected, and now have personal agendas and invested interests. They, Democrats foremost and Neocons, have prostituted the constitution for personal interests.
Newt believes good legislation can fix this nations ills, I believe that legislation is the problem. What needs to happen now is to revisit all legislation since before Roosevelt, and start dismantling the Beast. Freedom for the market, and individuals must be restored. We need to get back to the constitution. Ex-communist country’s have surpassed US and are more free market orientated. We are at a turning point in history, God help US!!!

Ed Laskie on November 5, 2009 at 2:46 AM

galenrox on November 5, 2009 at 2:40 AM

OH HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ACTUAL HISTORY OF NEWT GINGRICH.

1. Gingrich CLAIMED to have written the “Contract With America”. That is a lie.
The Contract With America was written by Larry Hunter, Robert Walker, Dick Armey and Bill Paxon.
2. The ideas in the CWA came from ROSS PEROT, who was a 3rd party candidate, confirmed by all 4 of the authors of the CWA and in the book by John B. Bader; Taking the Initiative: Leadership Agendas in Congress and the “Contract with America”
3. Fully half of the legislation enacted by the CWA failed to pass and the “budget requirements of the the combined budgets of the 95 major programs that the Contract with America promised to eliminate increased the deficit by 13%.
Gingrich is a failure, a fraud and a liar.

nelsonknows on November 5, 2009 at 2:57 AM

The problem was that Newt started ‘dressing down’ those who were pointing out her leftist leanings. Instead of researching what was being said, he took a stand on bad info.
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He needs to pay more attention if he expects to be respected, other wise he’ll do this again down the road as the battle continues. He is not the voice he once was, but he can still be effective if he gets his head straight.
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RalphyBoy on November 5, 2009 at 5:06 AM

Newt is part of the now Vichy Republicans. They’ve been captured by the enemy and rather than fight in the Resistance,
they become collaborators. You CAN’T re-earn trust like you had before. This wasn’t just NY-23. it started longer ago than that. Saying we need Newt is saying there’s no new blood to replace him out there. I actually wish we’d rid ourselves of all the old dinosaurs, my age and older.

Remember you NEVER, NEVER collaborate with the enemy. When you do, those voters that wise up and finally admit to themselves that the Democrats are out to ruin America, will have no one to trust, and no where to go.

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 5:44 AM

Gingrich is OK. He gets it. He’s a good politician and a good conservative.

The day he consented to be filmed on a couch with Polosi he was done.

You don’t get in bed with the enemy.

gdonovan on November 5, 2009 at 5:45 AM

Hey, Newt, tell it to Pat Toomey!!!

manwithblackhat on November 5, 2009 at 6:22 AM

Newt and the rest of the Republicans need stop and listen to the change in the air for their party. We are tired of the spending and the power plays. You work for us! Quit spending money on pork and useless programs! It’s time to bring us all together to stop the liberals from bankrupting America.

yoda on November 5, 2009 at 6:23 AM

Newt should have articulated his points better, and he really didn’t do it that well here either.

The number of representatives translates into electors in the electoral college. (Which is another reason why running a 3rd party person as president won’t work without representatives first btw)

The number of representatives translates into which party the Speaker of the House is.

So in that case if there are 51 Rs, voting her in (nutbag though she be) would have been a good thing.

Thanks for not explaining that Newt.

- The Cat

MirCat on November 5, 2009 at 7:00 AM

His endorsement was always strategic, to support Republican leaders at the local level and dissuade third-party challenges next year.

EPIC FAIL

gryphon202 on November 5, 2009 at 7:04 AM

The problem was that Newt started ‘dressing down’ those who were pointing out her leftist leanings. Instead of researching what was being said, he took a stand on bad info.

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2009 at 5:06 AM

No different than our own President, who stepped into a pile of racial poo when he criticized a certain police sergeant in the way he did…

unclesmrgol on November 5, 2009 at 7:04 AM

So … what’s the back story?

Texas Gal on November 5, 2009 at 12:16 AM

The back story is that Newt kowtowed to the local party leadership. Period. In doing so, he failed to show any kind of leadership himself.

Scozzafava was picked by Republicans, and I am a Republican, therefore I must support Scozzafava was the entire essence of Newt’s argument. It was never any more complicated than that.

gryphon202 on November 5, 2009 at 7:08 AM

I am convinced, people who watch Over-bight nightly, are cooking off.

Gingrich causes me to change the channel, he is totally unprincipled.

tarpon on November 5, 2009 at 7:08 AM

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 5:44 AM

I took the time to read throuh 2 pages of posts here, and your’s is the only one that begins to get to the nut of this. Thanks.

Newt, you didn’t just make the wrong call on NY-23, you made a wrong decision to back party over principle. In doing so you became just another empty suit politician, and stopped being a leader of any cause. You are not sorry for your decision either, you are just sorry you eneded up with your tail in a crack because of it.

MikeA on November 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM

Newt has caught the beltway flu. The primary symptom is arrogance.

I have ‘unsubscribed’ to his e-mails because I am just tired of hearing how small minded I must be.

We are the party Newt, not you!

libertylady on November 5, 2009 at 7:20 AM

MikeA on November 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM

Thanks

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 7:30 AM

Newt is in the wilderness.

javamartini on November 5, 2009 at 7:36 AM

javamartini on November 5, 2009 at 7:36 AM

Newt is in the wilderness

Hopefully, the birds eat the breadcrumbs on the trail.

yoda on November 5, 2009 at 7:44 AM

Whichever way the wind bloweth, there goest Newt.

lizzee on November 5, 2009 at 7:52 AM

NEWS:

NEWT = IRRELEVANT

SDarchitect on November 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM

NEWS:

NEWT = IRRELEVANT

SDarchitect on November 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM

LOL..it’s only news to Newt I fear.

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 8:11 AM

anXdem on November 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM

thuja on November 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM

I think maybe the problem with the “Big Tent” model is that it’s ill-defined. Republicans have yet to take ownership of the language and make it their own. For too long, we’ve allowed Socialist Democrats to control the verbiage.

To my mind, if one believes in the principles of Individual Liberty and Limited Government under the Constitution… then it’s a plenty big tent. It’s only liberal spin that would have us believe that SoCons singularly define us. Conservatives know that all these issues sort themselves out agreeably when the Constitution is followed as written. The Constitution is our final arbiter. When followed to the letter, it’s the referee which puts a stop to our endless bickering and allows unity of purpose.

Gingrich has run afoul with conservatives because he has, himself, put politics above principle. And at this point… he REALLY ought to know better.

Unlike Steele, Newt can’t complain at the prospect of being caught muddling between ideological principles and job responsibility. Newt waded in unbidden when it was not his place. For Michael Steele, there was a call to be made between our federalist belief in Self-Determination at the local level and his responsibility to fund qualified Republican candidates.

It’s late in the day for guys like Newt to not understand that we’re going to INSIST on principled leadership. As we face the prospect of active fascism, we’re well past the point of game-playing where we’re expected to support the red jersey as opposed to the blue one regardless of who’s wearing it. There are a handful of core principles that leadership MUST espouse. And while it’s okay to have differences on the issues, it’s no longer acceptable to twist the Constitution like a pretzel in support of any particular aspect of populism.

Democrats would have us all believe that it’s about social issues like abortion and gay marriage. The true conservative, however, understands that these issues MUST be decided in the several States in accordance with the Constitution, and that the Supreme Court is not the last word on the subject when they’re wrong, ie. when it’s clear that Roe v. Wade ignored the 10th.

There IS room in the tent for differences of opinion on the issues of the day if that’s the definition of “moderate”. But there isn’t room for those who are unwilling to follow the model laid out by the founders in arbitration of those issues. Adherence to the Constitution, the law that binds us together as a nation, is NOT asking too much. It’s a simple thing. There’s no wiggle-room in it, no need for moderation, no gray areas. It’s not written in Greek. It’s in plain English. And it comes to us with supporting documents from the era which serve to further clarify it us.

James Madison tells us:

“If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,

they may take the care of religion into their own hands;

they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury;

they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;

they may assume the provision of the poor;

they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;

in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress….

Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.”

We EXPECT our leadership to understand the basic principles of Constitutional governance. Political machinations will no longer be tolerated. And if you are of the same mind, if this is your definition of Republicanism… there’s plenty of room for you under the Big Tent. :)

Murf76 on November 5, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Used to love the guy, but he is forever yapping a bout some new organization he’s created, or new coalition/partnership he’s formed. It’s become impossible to take him seriously anymore.

Oh yeah, he’s turned into a RINO too.

pugwriter on November 5, 2009 at 8:22 AM

When it gets to the point where ones every move is calculated toward political gain, one has lost touch. Newt reached that point years ago.

pugwriter on November 5, 2009 at 8:25 AM

When Newt switched to support Hoffman just before the election, it reminded me of the old Beverly Hillbillies Show. Newt was Mr. Drysdale, and he was groveling, like he did, on every other episode to keep the Clampetts in Beverly Hills and their money in his bank.

Jeff from WI on November 5, 2009 at 8:36 AM

Gingrich is OK. He gets it. He’s a good politician and a good conservative.

jaime on November 4, 2009 at 9:52 PM

If being a Liberal would sell more books, Newt would be to the Left of Keith Olbermann. You are being used for ratings and book sales.

Decider on November 5, 2009 at 8:41 AM

A quote from Newt’s book “Real Change” (Obama edition)

“Andy Stern, the head of the Service Employees International Union, is the union leader who probably best understands the challenge of the world market and the need to make American union members productive in the face of world competition.”

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Andy Stern is the SEIU guy who is one of Obama’s most frequent visitors in the WH.
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Another example of how Newt is off the reservation.

Dasher on November 5, 2009 at 9:08 AM

I’m sick of Newt, I’m even sick of his voice. If you can’t respect a man’s judgment, and you can’t Newt’s, he’s no leader. I wish he’d just disappear never to be heard from.

Chessplayer on November 5, 2009 at 9:14 AM

For a simple man like me the calculation is easy. Put Sarah Palin behind me with a knife in her hand and I know for a fact that her back will be to mine and she will be covering my six. Put Newt back there and I will be sweating bullets.

SKYFOX on November 5, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Let’s face it: Newt Gingrich made a seriously bad call and was absolutely humiliated by it. What you saw on Hannity last night was as close to an apology as you can get from a politician.

Now the question is, will Newt learn from this experience, and return to his conservative roots?

Outlander on November 5, 2009 at 9:21 AM

This points to the core of the Republican problem – we don’t control our primaries. This story is just another sniffle-like symptom of the actual infection deep in the party – too many people who want to get along, instead of get going.

drunyan8315 on November 5, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Newt is another RINO that rattles his swords, kicks up dust, and will switch parties to get his desired votes!
But, what’s he running for?

Cybergeezer on November 5, 2009 at 9:24 AM

that she’s not the person he would have nominated.

Then perhaps Newt should have kept his big fat mouth shut instead of telling conservatives to once again suck it up and elect someone they didn’t like just because she had an R after her name.

I am sick of RINOs whinning about how the Conservatives are going to push all the moderates out of the “big tent.” Do they ever consider that THEY are the ones pushing the Conservatives out of the “big tent?”

What part of if you elect Republicans no different than Democrats you end up with the same Democratic agenda being passed is so hard to understand? It seems like it’s all about being the party in power for the RINOS – not about actually advancing any different policies.

katiejane on November 5, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Let’s just say it like it is…and this one goes to Allah…

The “moderates” as they like to call themselves have been jacking with BOTH parties for a long time now. A bunch of Schizophrenics that vote for Reagan and then can justify voting for Obama? Give me a break. Here’s the bottom line.

Vote with the Dems and get all the liberal social programs your hearts desire and a whole bunch that you’ll hate. The Dems are about control…of everything. You’ll have your social programs but no job. You’ll have your social programs but no money, food, education, health or sense of purpose. Or basic freedoms. Everything will be decided for you.

Or you can vote for the Republicans and be safe from all the nutjobs in the world, earn a decent living, raise your family the way YOU want to raise them, feed them what YOU want to feed them and spend your money like YOU want to spend it. You can use that money to save the planet, the animals, buy carbon credits, whatever floats your boat. You can even speak out and say what You want to say even if it’s critical of those in power.

Quit jerking the country back and forth from prosperity to the brink of destitution. Pick what’s important to YOU because if the Dems keep getting elected what You want won’t mean a damn thing.

Whippet on November 4, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Excellent! Clear, consise, and astute. You should be writing campaign speeches.
 
If you’re already involved, show it to your candidate and demand a promotion.

Blacksmith8 on November 5, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I’ll tell you something else that hasn’t been asked AP. Maybe someone with resources will ask. What is the back story here? Jerri Thompson was on to this district for a long time and evidently got involved when she learned that Hoffman was announced as a candidate with a Party. Now if she was bugging Hannity (like she said) and with Fred’s resources, I find it hard to believe that Newt didn’t know this was in the wind when he endorsed what’s her name. Then Palin jumps in probably at Jerri’s behest and the boat begins to start rockin’! So … what’s the back story?

Texas Gal on November 5, 2009 at 12:16 AM

The back story is at RedState. In brief the NRCC/Sessions and RNC/Steele have a problem with the timeline and their early involvement with the 11 districts in NY-23. Know this, what Newt knew and when Newt knew it will never be revealed in public.

Blacksmith8 on November 5, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Over the past few months I have been downloading some of Newt’s recent speeches.

I like him. I really do. I recognize what everyone is saying against him (he’s with the dems on global warming, he did something slimy to his wife, he backed a RINO instead of an independent conservative), but the fact is that I still think he’s one of the good guys.

I still don’t think he was entirely wrong in supporting Dede: she would have been better than the Dem, and Hoffman’s entrance insured the Dem’s victory. Yeah, Hoffman was better in many ways and he should have been the one nominated, but since he wasn’t, Newt played the hand that was dealt.

No happy endings here. Palin et al backed a loser. Newt backed another loser. Had Hoffman stayed out, there would have been slight diminishing of Democratic power. But since it was conservative vs. conservative (and I can understand Dede – if I were stabbed in the back like she was for not being ideologically pure enough, I might have done the same).

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 5, 2009 at 10:00 AM

What’s Newts position on the coming green economy? Is he on the same side with Graham? We need to get these green nuts out of our party or we will all be driving golf carts to work and wearing sweaters in the house. Newt better stick to writing books and answering questions with gravitas.

Kissmygrits on November 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Newt who?

molonlabe28 on November 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Newt is a jackass.

Hilts on November 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM

A sincere act of contrition should always be rewarded with forgiveness. Its fair to ask Mr. Newt to vet a candidate before he endorses them.

Although sadly his endorsement won’t be worth much anymore. Neither will that of the republican party.

There is absolutely no excuse for them putting up a radical socialist as a Republican.

dogsoldier on November 5, 2009 at 10:14 AM

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