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		<title>By: Health Care Reform and Driving Away the Object of Our Covetousness &#171; Notes From Babel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care Reform and Driving Away the Object of Our Covetousness &#171; Notes From Babel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] further innovation in order to force down costs and redirect resources as politicians see fit.  Like so many other zombified countries before us, we are strapping on bibs as we prepare to feast on the health care industry&#8217;s lifeless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] further innovation in order to force down costs and redirect resources as politicians see fit.  Like so many other zombified countries before us, we are strapping on bibs as we prepare to feast on the health care industry&#8217;s lifeless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More hard info in a few minutes, making the most cogent points on this problem, than all of Obama&#039;s fluffy speeches rolled into one.

Middlemen are a main moocher&#039;s method to siphon off money &lt;em&gt;invisibly&lt;/em&gt;.

Cut these paperwork and redtape leeches- set between consumer and provider -and that alone will be a good start at lowering costs.

Then tort reform, transportability, and across state lines insurance sales.

(Was that a &lt;em&gt;Palin wink &lt;/em&gt;there at the very end from Elina van den Broek?

&lt;em&gt;Goed zo!&lt;/em&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More hard info in a few minutes, making the most cogent points on this problem, than all of Obama&#8217;s fluffy speeches rolled into one.</p>
<p>Middlemen are a main moocher&#8217;s method to siphon off money <em>invisibly</em>.</p>
<p>Cut these paperwork and redtape leeches- set between consumer and provider -and that alone will be a good start at lowering costs.</p>
<p>Then tort reform, transportability, and across state lines insurance sales.</p>
<p>(Was that a <em>Palin wink </em>there at the very end from Elina van den Broek?</p>
<p><em>Goed zo!</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: ptcamn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ptcamn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;lexhamfox&lt;/strong&gt;: do you understand the cause of everything you have mentioned? 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;What a load of crap. The system is way too expensive and the results are poor compared to just about any other industrialized country... Truth is, our system’s costs are undermining our competitiveness.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

The problem is not quality or quantity. The problem, as you clearly point out as the only issue, is cost. And why do we have the costs that we have? Because of government intervention, mandates, and regulation at federal and state levels. &lt;strong&gt;The truth of the matter is that we haven&#039;t had free markets in the health industry since the 1940&#039;s&lt;/strong&gt; and with each decade more regulations were put in place. The point of the video is correct: &lt;strong&gt;get the government out of that industry and let, cut the middle man, and let the market balance the costs out. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>lexhamfox</strong>: do you understand the cause of everything you have mentioned? </p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;What a load of crap. The system is way too expensive and the results are poor compared to just about any other industrialized country&#8230; Truth is, our system’s costs are undermining our competitiveness.&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p>The problem is not quality or quantity. The problem, as you clearly point out as the only issue, is cost. And why do we have the costs that we have? Because of government intervention, mandates, and regulation at federal and state levels. <strong>The truth of the matter is that we haven&#8217;t had free markets in the health industry since the 1940&#8242;s</strong> and with each decade more regulations were put in place. The point of the video is correct: <strong>get the government out of that industry and let, cut the middle man, and let the market balance the costs out. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: UltimateBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>UltimateBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they dress funny in europe

tlynch001 on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree.  And I&#039;m sure they think the same thing about us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they dress funny in europe</p>
<p>tlynch001 on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.  And I&#8217;m sure they think the same thing about us.</p>
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		<title>By: UltimateBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>UltimateBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart, sexy, and a cool accent.  What&#039;s not to like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart, sexy, and a cool accent.  What&#8217;s not to like?</p>
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		<title>By: tlynch001</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlynch001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they dress funny in europe</description>
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		<title>By: Always To The Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Always To The Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;“The Grass Is Not Always Greener.”...&lt;/strong&gt;

Video: The real lessons of Europe&#8217;s nanny-state health care system
As Barack Obama and the Democrats attempt to remake the American
health-care system into the European model, a European economist warns
the US that they have fundamentally......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“The Grass Is Not Always Greener.”&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Video: The real lessons of Europe&#8217;s nanny-state health care system<br />
As Barack Obama and the Democrats attempt to remake the American<br />
health-care system into the European model, a European economist warns<br />
the US that they have fundamentally&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RobCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is like a conservative Lara Logan. I&#039;m in luv.</description>
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		<title>By: RobCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how a Dutch accent sounds like a New York accent.
Afterall, they used to call the place New Amsterdam.

There are some real good Dutch and Danish conservatives.
That&#039;s because they see there nations drifting away in a slow motion Blizkrieg of Islamazation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how a Dutch accent sounds like a New York accent.<br />
Afterall, they used to call the place New Amsterdam.</p>
<p>There are some real good Dutch and Danish conservatives.<br />
That&#8217;s because they see there nations drifting away in a slow motion Blizkrieg of Islamazation.</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t follow Europe&#8217;s example &#124; The Proud Profiteer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t follow Europe&#8217;s example &#124; The Proud Profiteer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a great video from a post on HotAir that hits the nail on the head of why we have problems with our health care, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a great video from a post on HotAir that hits the nail on the head of why we have problems with our health care, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: capejasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>capejasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey…she winked! Who else do we know that winks?

crazywater on November 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oooooh I know, I know!!! Remember Obama winked at the young lady at his town hall? She got all giddy, and well.....stupid over it, and said in a groupie sort of way....&quot;he winked at me&quot; *giggle* *giggle*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey…she winked! Who else do we know that winks?</p>
<p>crazywater on November 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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<p>Oooooh I know, I know!!! Remember Obama winked at the young lady at his town hall? She got all giddy, and well&#8230;..stupid over it, and said in a groupie sort of way&#8230;.&#8221;he winked at me&#8221; *giggle* *giggle*</p>
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		<title>By: WarEagle01</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarEagle01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Italy for four years and, yes, health care in Europe does suck.  Going into a hospital in Italy is like stepping into a 1960s Dr. Kildare set.  They are antiquated, not only in their facilities but in how they treat their patients.  BTW, has anyone else taken a look at European death rates?  I just checked the death rates as listed by the CIA factbook listed here: 

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate

It looks to me like European annual death rates are all higher the the US&#039;s.  The US rate is 8.27 deaths per 1000. The wonderful socialist paradise of Sweden has an annual death rate of 10.24 deaths/1000!  That&#039;s amazing to me.  Just consider if the US had the same rate as France (whose health care is rate #1 by the WHO BTW)at 8.48 deaths/1000.  That would come out to about an extra 70,000 deaths per year.  Why do Democrats want so many Americans to die? Why, Alan Grayson? Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Italy for four years and, yes, health care in Europe does suck.  Going into a hospital in Italy is like stepping into a 1960s Dr. Kildare set.  They are antiquated, not only in their facilities but in how they treat their patients.  BTW, has anyone else taken a look at European death rates?  I just checked the death rates as listed by the CIA factbook listed here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate</a></p>
<p>It looks to me like European annual death rates are all higher the the US&#8217;s.  The US rate is 8.27 deaths per 1000. The wonderful socialist paradise of Sweden has an annual death rate of 10.24 deaths/1000!  That&#8217;s amazing to me.  Just consider if the US had the same rate as France (whose health care is rate #1 by the WHO BTW)at 8.48 deaths/1000.  That would come out to about an extra 70,000 deaths per year.  Why do Democrats want so many Americans to die? Why, Alan Grayson? Why?</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the libs in this county suffer from low esteem and view Europeans as UberIntelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the libs in this county suffer from low esteem and view Europeans as UberIntelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: crazywater</title>
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		<dc:creator>crazywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey...she winked!  Who else do we know that winks?</description>
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		<title>By: pabo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ms. van den Broek’s statement that “The right to universal health care in Europe often means the right to get into long waiting lines.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


she is absolutely correct. found 3 ,ups while doing self exam 6 months ago, my mammogram is not until May of 2010. I waited over a year for an MRI finally got one when I was rushed into emergency with encephalitis and had to have a spinal tap too.

Am Amerrican living in Europe here. You don&#039;t think that can of soup &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;really costs 2.59euros&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ms. van den Broek’s statement that “The right to universal health care in Europe often means the right to get into long waiting lines.”</p></blockquote>
<p>she is absolutely correct. found 3 ,ups while doing self exam 6 months ago, my mammogram is not until May of 2010. I waited over a year for an MRI finally got one when I was rushed into emergency with encephalitis and had to have a spinal tap too.</p>
<p>Am Amerrican living in Europe here. You don&#8217;t think that can of soup <em><strong>really costs 2.59euros</strong></em> do you?</p>
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		<title>By: hoakie</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoakie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>succinct + accurate = Bullseye!</description>
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		<title>By: mile66</title>
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		<dc:creator>mile66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s Dutch. Love the accent!(e.g. Unifersal) Along with Geert Wilders, two of the most brilliant NL politicians these days. 

There is some hope for Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s Dutch. Love the accent!(e.g. Unifersal) Along with Geert Wilders, two of the most brilliant NL politicians these days. </p>
<p>There is some hope for Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tennman on November 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87TbRWTFGKk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LOL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tennman on November 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87TbRWTFGKk" rel="nofollow">LOL</a></p>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;All that, and cheap too?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course.  

Because I didn&#039;t ask to be sick.  

And I have to pay my cable bill, for a luxury car, designer clothes, a blackberry, a 65&quot; plasma TV, etc.  

Who can afford health care after they pay for the necessities of life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All that, and cheap too?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course.  </p>
<p>Because I didn&#8217;t ask to be sick.  </p>
<p>And I have to pay my cable bill, for a luxury car, designer clothes, a blackberry, a 65&#8243; plasma TV, etc.  </p>
<p>Who can afford health care after they pay for the necessities of life?</p>
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		<title>By: CambellBrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>CambellBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had dinner last night with an Australian who spends tim ein Canada and Europe.
I mentioned how I was going to lose my insurance and be forced onto the government dole if they took over the US health system.
This guy is totally leftwing, and he thinks it&#039;s a good idea for the US to join Canada, AU, and Europe in their healthcare stupidity.
I said &quot;But aren&#039;t your taxes awful? I know Canada&#039;s sales tax alone is incredible! I don&#039;t want to live in that kindof economy because my standard of living will go down&quot;

He says &quot;Yes the taxes are higher, but European standard of living is much better than US&quot;
 WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!!!
I almost laughed in his face!! YEAH RIGHT! I&#039;ve been to Europe! The real estate is unattainable, nobody can afford a car (but then there&#039;s state-run metros), and expendable income is way lower it seems to me.

People on the left not only live in a fantasy, they are total snobs. They really think Europe is so much better than the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had dinner last night with an Australian who spends tim ein Canada and Europe.<br />
I mentioned how I was going to lose my insurance and be forced onto the government dole if they took over the US health system.<br />
This guy is totally leftwing, and he thinks it&#8217;s a good idea for the US to join Canada, AU, and Europe in their healthcare stupidity.<br />
I said &#8220;But aren&#8217;t your taxes awful? I know Canada&#8217;s sales tax alone is incredible! I don&#8217;t want to live in that kindof economy because my standard of living will go down&#8221;</p>
<p>He says &#8220;Yes the taxes are higher, but European standard of living is much better than US&#8221;<br />
 WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!!!<br />
I almost laughed in his face!! YEAH RIGHT! I&#8217;ve been to Europe! The real estate is unattainable, nobody can afford a car (but then there&#8217;s state-run metros), and expendable income is way lower it seems to me.</p>
<p>People on the left not only live in a fantasy, they are total snobs. They really think Europe is so much better than the US.</p>
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		<title>By: jodetoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodetoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how inexpensive medical services would have to be to satisfy people.  We want highly trained doctors and nurses, the availability of the latest medicines, procedures and equipment, we want clean hospitals, we want all the billing and inconvenient stuff to be handled for us, and we want it all now. All that, and cheap too?

This is a great way to drive talented people out of medicine.  

And I want a Mercedes for $500.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how inexpensive medical services would have to be to satisfy people.  We want highly trained doctors and nurses, the availability of the latest medicines, procedures and equipment, we want clean hospitals, we want all the billing and inconvenient stuff to be handled for us, and we want it all now. All that, and cheap too?</p>
<p>This is a great way to drive talented people out of medicine.  </p>
<p>And I want a Mercedes for $500.</p>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how do you guys still win elections is beyond me.

sesquipedalian on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because shockingly, a good many people won&#039;t vote for a corrupt, incompetent, criminally ignorant Democrat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how do you guys still win elections is beyond me.</p>
<p>sesquipedalian on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Because shockingly, a good many people won&#8217;t vote for a corrupt, incompetent, criminally ignorant Democrat?</p>
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		<title>By: Bleeds Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleeds Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We actually have a model of low-cost, high-availability health care in our system right now, and not coincidentally, it’s the markets without third-party payers: cosmetic surgery and Lasik. Providers compete to keep prices low, consumers pay out of their own pockets without interference from governments or employers, and as a result we have rational pricing and a plethora of providers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is at best an imperfect analogy as these are elective, relatively simple procedures that can be understood by lay persons and comparison shopped over time -- unlike the kind of procedures that eat up most health care dollars.

When someone runs a red light and smashes into your car, when your kid has a seizure after a football game, when the tissue sample is malignant, you are not in a position to act as a traditional consumer and thus oncologists and emergency room physicians don&#039;t behave (economically) in the same way that boob-jobbers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We actually have a model of low-cost, high-availability health care in our system right now, and not coincidentally, it’s the markets without third-party payers: cosmetic surgery and Lasik. Providers compete to keep prices low, consumers pay out of their own pockets without interference from governments or employers, and as a result we have rational pricing and a plethora of providers.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is at best an imperfect analogy as these are elective, relatively simple procedures that can be understood by lay persons and comparison shopped over time &#8212; unlike the kind of procedures that eat up most health care dollars.</p>
<p>When someone runs a red light and smashes into your car, when your kid has a seizure after a football game, when the tissue sample is malignant, you are not in a position to act as a traditional consumer and thus oncologists and emergency room physicians don&#8217;t behave (economically) in the same way that boob-jobbers do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how do you guys still win elections is beyond me.

sesquipedalian on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We know. Whatever you do, don&#039;t wise up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how do you guys still win elections is beyond me.</p>
<p>sesquipedalian on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>We know. Whatever you do, don&#8217;t wise up.</p>
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		<title>By: pedestrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedestrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason health costs are lower in other countries is that the rate of obesity in the US is far higher than in other developed countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason health costs are lower in other countries is that the rate of obesity in the US is far higher than in other developed countries.</p>
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