Too bad to check: NJ Dems sending gangbangers on GOTV efforts?
posted at 10:55 am on November 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
So says Election Journal, who gets it from two sources, albeit anonymous ones. One seems pretty solid; a police officer recognized gangbangers, who discovered him and threatened him after discovering where he lived. The on-camera source seems less specific but just as certain about the GOTV volunteers Democrats sent into her neighborhood:
How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop? And then find out that the men were sent into the neighborhood by the Democratic Party for GOTV operations – complete with lists of voters names, addresses and phones numbers!
That is what happened Sunday on a quiet street in Morris Township. The officer, who’s name we are with holding, specifically heard the men discussing that he was a police officer and that they now know where he lives. The officer confronted the men and they took off. He contacted the local police who responded and caught up with them and about a dozen other men a few blocks away. According to the police report, the men were known criminals and when asked why they were in the neighborhood they stated they were “campaigning for the Democratic Party.”
It wouldn’t be the first time that we’ve seen criminals hired to represent Democratic GOTV efforts. In 2004, the Kerry campaign used an outfit called Americans Coming Together, who hired felons to do some door-knocking and some campaigning on doorsteps. This year, the Census Bureau botched its criminal background checks and hired hundreds of felons to do their data collection. One might think that with unemployment skyrocketing, the Census Bureau could do a better job of vetting applicants, but apparently they didn’t care enough to try.
If true, this demonstrates the steep hill Republicans have in dislodging an entrenched Democratic power base in New Jersey that has clearly become unresponsive to voters.
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I’m reading that ACORN is really active in NJ. I guess their money hasn’t yet completely run out.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Why shouldn’t criminal Democrats hire criminals to motivate other criminals to go to the polls?
They are keeping it in the family.
What is astounding is that non-criminal-Americans actually vote for Democrats.
NoDonkey on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM
How can any decent citizen belong to that party? How?
Rational Thought on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM
good Gawd, another reason to not talk to strangers at the door
I expect MONDO SHENANIGANS in Joisey
hang tuff Christie! He has the ideal background to defend against an attempted Franken here, so that is a verrry good thing.
ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM
JUst bidness as usual for the Dems…is anyone surprised?
ornery_independent on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM
rational thought
b/c the media never reports this stuff and people just do not know what is happening. I did not know until I got involved in the DEM primary and saw it for myself.
ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Not so odd. When you’re in trouble, you turn to your friends. No?
RBMN on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Once again the theory of liberal projection proves itself accurate. When liberals talk about how dangerous conservatives are it’s a good bet they are up to something dangerous.
gwelf on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Used to live in Morris Twp. Beautiful place in a rotten state ruined by Democrats and their policies…
Hey, you get what you vote for….payback’s a bitch
PatriotRider on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
This is why I don’t answer the door to canvassers, or anybody really.
4shoes on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I guess it’s easier to steal an election if you’ve got theives in your GOTV efforts.
livefreerdie on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM
They are called Death Panels.
pedestrian on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Democrats are just expanding the tent to become the majority party. Enforcing principles gets in the way of majority building.
EscapeVelocity on November 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM
I’m not a violent person at all, but all of this thug scare tactic crap is really getting under my skin. If I were to be threatened like this and they came to my property, they wouldn’t be leaving on their own accord.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Looks like Pookie got off the couch today.
Jerome Horwitz on November 3, 2009 at 11:03 AM
We are under assault by left-wing goons in this country. This is just another instance. The Socialist Dems will stop at nothing to keep their power. Meanwhile the right plays with kid gloves. God help us — not a pessimistic cry, but a prayer.
Christian Conservative on November 3, 2009 at 11:03 AM
What I don’t get? Why is ACORN doubling down. They have got to realize that this will end up with yet more negative press.
Puzzling.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM
I cease to be surprised.
nyx on November 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Thugocracy.
albill on November 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Got to wonder if Pookie is one of them. Obama said to get him off the couch.
coldwarrior on November 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM
This election should be over in, oh, by the 2010 elections. How long does it take to count the votes, then recount them, then count them again when a trunkful is found in an SEIU trunk, then a court challenge, and of course an appeal…damn, this could take more than a year…
ornery_independent on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Too bad we don’t have a real Justice Department these days. This is about as RICO as RICO gets.
Mr. D on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Where’s GrowFins on this?
BuckeyeSam on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
We go to the door with shotgun in hand……..
Everybody seems to very polite………..
1luckydogg on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
It wouldn’t shock me if there was a surprise upset in this election — in favor of the Democrats.
GOTC — Get Out To Cheat
Daggett on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Where am I in Cuba, China, Venezuela, Russia?
cubachi on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
O/T….I just heard the most stupid remark by Owens in NY. He’s likening Hoffman to going back to Bush and mentioned privatization of social security.
*hooting*
Are we producing politicians that can’t get past shopworn talking points these days?
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Get off my yard!
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
And after Christie wins, I hope he sends the National Gaurd in there to fix the gang problems.
Tony737 on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Keep watching this. If the Democrat machine in New Jersey is dedicated to giving cops’ names and addresses to local crooks, don’t expect law enforcement unions or organizations to stay loyal to the Democrat machine. And remember, Gaetano Lucchese was a community organizer.
Chris_Balsz on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
give it your best shot, kaksuckaz
blatantblue on November 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
If Christie wins, which I doubt, the Dems are going to scream voter fraud on the part of Repubs. Pookie, Tookie Abu Jamaal et. al. are hard at work for dope and spare change.
thomasaur on November 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
This reminds me, last week I pointed out David Englin (Dem. running in VA)to a friend of mine, she said she’d gotten a happy birthday wish from him via email which creeped her out a bit. She didn’t know how he got the info he had.
4shoes on November 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
still at the bar or face down in a pool of vomit
Doctor Zhivago on November 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Well, the GOP sends church goers to doors. Oh the horror!!!!
WashJeff on November 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
That does seem to be the pattern in NJ. I understand that when it’s close, the Dems tend to win.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
No surprise. Sadly.
IrishEi on November 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Same old, same old.
notropis on November 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
It’s wasn’t even his vomit. They don’t know whose vomit it is, since you can’t really dust for vomit.
WashJeff on November 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
The hard truth is the race in New Jersey is within the margin of error in the polls which means that there is 99.99999% chance that the Democrat will win. They always manage to find the votes they need. Can somebody give me an example of a time when a Republican won when the poll numbers were within 1 or 2 points?
I conceded the New Jersey race when I saw that Cristie could not open up a big enough lead.
Remember it is not who cast the vote that counts, rather it is who counts the votes.
Just A Grunt on November 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM
AnninCA at 11:07
Come on, you know why. ACORN is bullet proof: they know they are protected by Obama’s administration as well as the democratic controlled congress. Their existence and livelihood depends on performing well in their fraudulent activities, especially their voter fraud assignments.
GaltBlvnAtty on November 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM
where are the trollies? they will defend ANYTHING that comes outta the dems’ crack-hole…….stories like this are why I always answer the front door with a gun in hand.
Ris4victory on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM
NJ Felons: Vote for Corzine or we’ll kill you.
A win-win proposition, because everybody knows that dead people vote for Democrats.
Steve Z on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Really? I think it might break for Christie. He’s definitely gotten the surge at the end going.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Doesn’t seem all that out of the ordinary. If you figure that a significant number of the population are gang members and those who are mostly likely to have the time to go around and canvas (probably for cash payment) and don’t have regular jobs are gang members, and that gang members are probably close to 100% Democrats, it doesn’t seem odd that gang bangers would be canvassing for Democrats.
Democrats ARE corruption. Democrats ARE thuggery. The Democratic Party is probably quite proud of their gang members. Democrats are the party of gangsters. Ever seen a Republican mobster? Ever seen a Republican union thug?
Even if one believes in socialist principles, I can’t see how they can, in good conscience, align themselves with the Democratic Party, the most corrupt institution we have seen in generations. It has become exactly the opposite of the party of JFK. Democrats, the party of criminals everywhere.
crosspatch on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM
The Chicago Way.
I’m going to start referring to the democrat party as the fascist party. They don’t really believe in democracy in any way.
wildcat84 on November 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
And what press was that?
joeswampy on November 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I wonder what Karzai thinks when listening to Obama’s sanctimonious lectures about political corruption.
karlant on November 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
No, I think the writing is on the wall. And even though the justice dept. declined to prosecute the other case, I remember that situation. The overenthusiastic thugs did leave when asked.
I think what’s being reported now is way, way more egregious.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Arguably, they are “aiding and abetting”, which is a criminal act.
Rusty Bill on November 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM
yep, you find some crazy stuff in the jack shacks
Doctor Zhivago on November 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM
There’s already a mainstream article on-line. It’s only going to explode if Christie loses, in spite of polls showing him ahead.
I honestly don’t see this being ignored.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I’m pretty sure he used President Obama’s campaign as the model for his own.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM
If ACORN can get Al Franken installed in the Senate, getting Corzine re-”elected” should be a cake walk.
ornery_independent on November 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I’m going to start referring to the democrat party as the fascist party. They don’t really believe in democracy in any way.
wildcat84 on November 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
i like the term Death party or Party of Death. It defines their postions in a very true way. How could catholics vote for a party of death?
unseen on November 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Not to offend any NJ posters, but isn’t illegalities just the way it goes in that state?
They seem to be more Chicago than Chicago.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Dunno, but the theme music for its imminent departure is queued up and ready to go: “Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye”!
ya2daup on November 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM
He chuckles and remembers that John “effin” Kerry monitered the election, then returned to the U.S. as one of Barry’s right hand men.
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM
I was born and raised in Paterson, NJ. This report comes as no surprise.
Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM
What’s next? Armed escorts to polling stations? What’s happened to my country and the state of liberty?
Rovin on November 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
And some dopes still say there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans. There’s a huge difference!
lanesmerge on November 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Death Party describes them perfectly
ya2daup on November 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I thought so. NJ is just one of those corrupt states, isn’t it?
Sort of a holdover from old-style union/Dem tactics that still actually controls a lot.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Chicago, New Jersey, Detroit,..what do they all have in common?
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
In my small North Jersey town we vote in the same bulding as the police station so I doubt I’ll see any of this. Plus we’re gangbanger-free.
JammieWearingFool on November 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
“Vote Penguin, Support Joker”
“Batman is Racist”
Hening on November 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm
bluegrass on November 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM
My real opinion? Unions.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM
They’re all populated by thugs.
They’re all failing miserably.
They’ve all been “managed” by Democrats for decades.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
i like the term Death party or Party of Death. It defines their postions in a very true way. – Unseen
Except for when it comes to criminals, terrorists, rapists, murderers, etc, then they’re against the death penalty.
How could catholics vote for a party of death. – Unseen
Yeah, makes no sense. Like when Jews vote for the national socialist Demonrat party.
Tony737 on November 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Tony Sopranos is working hard
jp on November 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Concealed Carry is one possible solution, allowing lawful citizens of New Jersey to exercise their right to keep and bear arms that would allow them to protect themselves from these criminals. They still have that Second Amendment thing there, right? Oh, no? Oh well, living in NJ Democrat-land pretty much strips you of your constitutional rights, doesn’t it?
Fishoutofwater on November 3, 2009 at 11:22 AM
What else?
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Remember the Black Panther guys at the polling sttaion in Philly? Neither does Obama.
Tony737 on November 3, 2009 at 11:23 AM
The unions just became such a thug outfit. I have strong feelings about this.
I so have no problem with employees or any other group joining together. I don’t see that one bit differently than I saw the Teaparties. That’s appropriate.
But somewhere in the 60′s, unions went to the dark side in a very big way.
I hate seeing that reemerge in American politics. I was actually surprised to see Obama tapping into that group. It’s so offensive to most people. I thought that part of his base was going to be the ones to give him the real problems, not the intellectual elitists who blog. It’s the union folks who will expose and turn off people.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:23 AM
How appropriate. Half the NJ Democrat Party ought to be convicted of felonies.
WannabeAnglican on November 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Worse, too much government. You have no idea how Trenton wrecked auto insurance in Joisey some years ago, in a government-run boondoggle that lasted three years. After that mess was repealed and replaced by another mess, drivers had to pay surcharges to recoup three billion ‘lost’ dollars for the first disaster.
Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM
The active use of the second amendment in liberal proportions will negate the thugs.
Johan Klaus on November 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM
In CA, Dems are honestly controlled by gov’t unions. Now they are totally different from the NJ variety.
They just get emotional. They don’t employ thug tactics.
But the dems in my state? They can’t address the problems because of their base. Frankly, they’d be voting themselves right out of office.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Intrade has Corzine down almost 10 today- 40% win probability.
You can bet the fraud and intimidation by these thugs is going to ramp up- starting about now.
jjshaka on November 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM
In my mind intentional voter fraud is the same as treason. If you purposely try to sway an election by generating fake votes or threaten those who will cast genuine votes you should be executed.
gwelf on November 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
But Jersey voters seem to take corruption in stride. That’s all I meant. Those corruption charges never seem to really change the pattern there. They are used to it.
Wrong?
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Or crr6, Blatant Blue, simplesimon, etc.?
ncborn on November 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
The community syndicated post-it note blogger AnninCA!
Cybergeezer on November 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
This comment is enough to send me into a blind rage, screaming unchristian profanities…
Seriously, I thought I could handle this. I don’t know if I can. I woke up this morning believing we lived in a country of free, fair elections. Recalling last November, reading this, and envisioning Obama and Co.’s smirking face upon victory in NJ makes me want to pull my hair out.
Diane on November 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I wonder which is more corrupt, Kabul Afghanistan or New Jersey and Washington . Maybe Barry can check on it for us little people .
wheels on November 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Oh well, living in NJ Democrat-land pretty much strips you of your constitutional rights, doesn’t it? – Fish
Yet they claim to be for the ‘little guy’, right? We live in blue Delaware, the beautiful Mrs.737 and I were discussing the idea of buying a gun this morning. She’s on the phone with me right now from her car as I type telling me that she saw several cops busting into a house only a few miles from our home.
Tony737 on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Not to defend this but…
First, these are clearly not hardcore “gang-bangers.” Because hardcore gang-bangers, corner boys, crackheads and the like don’t do GOTV for eight bucks an hour.
What happens is that the party needs canvassers so they hit local colleges (last time I went canvassing, I was paired with an extrem, unions and the like who offer to turn out bodies for the canvass. A bunch of people who are either a) highly motivated ideologues or party “regulars,” or b) poor, bored young people are rounded up, everyone is handed a list and a pen and if they (the poor, bored ones)stay on their route all day they get their $50 or whatever and go home. Inevitably, some of the poor kids are less than model citizens — you’re talking about people who can’t hold down a McDonald’s job — and you occasionally get odd juxtapositions of canvassing teams and neighborhoods that scare the citizenry. Sometimes even black kids get onto the streets of a white neighborhood in Moriss Township.
Far from being actually intimidating, though, the biggest problem is getting kids who are very shy outside of their element and not motivated to actually knock on the doors in the first place. Note that there is no allegation they were doing anything except being in a neighborhood where the “Didn’t belong.”
It is hardly an attempt to steal the election, it’s simply a problem of hiring high-quality labor for a crappy, short-term job.
Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Well, this IS Jersey we are talking about…
I am sure they are just keeping it in the ‘family’
Wolftech on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Don’t forget the Hoboken mayor who was close to Corzine who got busted for his ties with the Mafia
jp on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Tony, I just commented on Mary Katharine Ham’s facebook page. Her post was titled “MaryKatharine Ham is excited to vote today!”
My comment was: “When you get through voting MK, don’t forget to stand out front of the polling station with a uniform and wave your batton around threatening everyone to vote for a Conservative—-according the the DOJ, this is perfectly legal.”
(snark)
Rovin on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I’ve yet to see a line the Democrats won’t cross.
CP on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I was always getting weirdos knocking on my door. They had tattos and piercings all over their faces or joint tattoos.
Blake on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
…an extremely unmotivated college student)
Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
The democrat party is a criminal enterprise.
SouthernGent on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
LOL. The donks and the unions are as one. Always have been. SEIU and ACORN are one and the same. It’s his base.
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Ha !! Just try getting a Firearm ID card, never mind jumping thru the hoops filling out forms for a handgun purchase…..and when the Chief of Police finally gets around to approve it weeks later, maybe they’ll call you and tell you to stop by and pick up your permit.
Jerome Horwitz on November 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I personally would not put too much into these anonymous reports. Won’t be the first time somebody in NJ planted false info during an election, and it won’t be the last time either.
Johnnyreb on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM
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