Too bad to check: NJ Dems sending gangbangers on GOTV efforts?

posted at 10:55 am on November 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

So says Election Journal, who gets it from two sources, albeit anonymous ones. One seems pretty solid; a police officer recognized gangbangers, who discovered him and threatened him after discovering where he lived. The on-camera source seems less specific but just as certain about the GOTV volunteers Democrats sent into her neighborhood:

How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop? And then find out that the men were sent into the neighborhood by the Democratic Party for GOTV operations – complete with lists of voters names, addresses and phones numbers!

That is what happened Sunday on a quiet street in Morris Township. The officer, who’s name we are with holding, specifically heard the men discussing that he was a police officer and that they now know where he lives. The officer confronted the men and they took off. He contacted the local police who responded and caught up with them and about a dozen other men a few blocks away. According to the police report, the men were known criminals and when asked why they were in the neighborhood they stated they were “campaigning for the Democratic Party.”

It wouldn’t be the first time that we’ve seen criminals hired to represent Democratic GOTV efforts. In 2004, the Kerry campaign used an outfit called Americans Coming Together, who hired felons to do some door-knocking and some campaigning on doorsteps.  This year, the Census Bureau botched its criminal background checks and hired hundreds of felons to do their data collection.  One might think that with unemployment skyrocketing, the Census Bureau could do a better job of vetting applicants, but apparently they didn’t care enough to try.

If true, this demonstrates the steep hill Republicans have in dislodging an entrenched Democratic power base in New Jersey that has clearly become unresponsive to voters.


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I wonder which is more corrupt, Kabul Afghanistan or New Jersey and Washington.

wheels on November 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Chicago

At least the corruption in Jersey actually hits the news while the Daley machine completely buries it

Doctor Zhivago on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Trying to raise kids in a blue state … cops busting drug dealers a few miles away … and we keep on electing these democrats WHY? Oh yeah, ‘ceause they promise everybody free stuff. How sad.

Tony737 on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Wrong?

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM

You’re not wrong at all. The entire machine down there reeks of vice, from the docks opposite NYC to Trenton. Hell, if a Newark mayor gets nailed on corruption he can still get re-elected.

Far as I’m concerned, we should detatch the state from the continent and let it float out to sea.

Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM

How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop? And then find out that the men were sent into the neighborhood by the Democratic Party for GOTV operations – complete with lists of voters names, addresses and phones numbers!

Actually I wouldn’t feel that bad as long as I good afford a good lawyer.

MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM

the men were known criminals and when asked why they were in the neighborhood they stated they were “campaigning for the Democratic Party.”

Apparently democratic campaign workers mirror the democratic Congress that Nancy “clean out the swamp” Pelosi presides over.

Baxter Greene on November 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

LOL. Try harder. Blur those lines. “He was always such a good boy.”

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM

LOL. The donks and the unions are as one. Always have been. SEIU and ACORN are one and the same. It’s his base.

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Well, I am used to the Clintons. They always were respectful to Labor, but they weren’t in their pockets, by any shakes.

That’s when I knew, to be honest, that I wouldn’t vote for Obama.

Contrary to people’s opinions that it was a woman issue or a black issue or even a liberal issue, I knew immediately that Obama was ushering back in an outdated Democratic framework, which is totally outdated to meet today’s challenges.

Big labor does not offer solutions. People talk about the GOP as the party of No. They are benign compared to big unions and their solutions.

They really want to dial back the clock.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Bone crushers for the people.

RobCon on November 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Far as I’m concerned, we should detatch the state from the continent and let it float out to sea.

Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM

I said in the Phillies prediction headline a little while back that we should do that with the whole DC/Boston corridor.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM

You’re not wrong at all. The entire machine down there reeks of vice, from the docks opposite NYC to Trenton. Hell, if a Newark mayor gets nailed on corruption he can still get re-elected.

Far as I’m concerned, we should detatch the state from the continent and let it float out to sea.

Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM

OK, I thought so. I almost married a guy from Jersey. :)

Very, very cute Italian. *haha

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM

It is hardly an attempt to steal the election, it’s simply a problem of hiring high-quality labor for a crappy, short-term job.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Right, and I’m married to Donald Trump/

Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Where am I in Cuba, China, Venezuela, Russia?

cubachi on November 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Obamazuela or Pelossia.

MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I’m convinced we have to get past all the garbage from the past if we’re going to re-emerge from the crash.

We at least should try. People who get stuck in past arguments/debates have actually thrown in the towel.

They are giving up.

I haven’t yet seen bona fide vision yet. But I am not willing to yet decide it doesn’t exist.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Right, and I’m married to Donald Trump/

Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Could you do us all a favor then and shave his head while he is sleeping.

MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Hey, call the DOJ, they’ll get right on it. NOT!

james23 on November 3, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Hope and Change and Thugs and Intimidation.

The Democrat recipe for winning.

We must fight back.

fogw on November 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Not to defend this but…

First, these are clearly not hardcore “gang-bangers.”
Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop?

Whew, glad that cop shooters aren’t hardcore. And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Not to defend this but…

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Huh?

All you did was defend it. See, the usual meaning, in English, of “not to defend this but…” would be that you, yourself, share many reservations concerning the action in question, but are providing a few possibly unnoticed details.

Not that you’re just trying to “sound reasonable” before simply spouting a stupid blanket defense.

notropis on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

First the NBPP now known criminals with ties to Gangs…. Appalling!

BigMike252 on November 3, 2009 at 11:45 AM

And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Voting against anything Obama and the rest of the Enemy Party want.

Liam on November 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Huh?

All you did was defend it. See, the usual meaning, in English, of “not to defend this but…” would be that you, yourself, share many reservations concerning the action in question, but are providing a few possibly unnoticed details.

Not that you’re just trying to “sound reasonable” before simply spouting a stupid blanket defense.

notropis on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

What I attempted to point out is that this is not part of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop?

Whew, glad that cop shooters aren’t hardcore. And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I wouldn’t. But, the alleged shooter being released from jail, I’m not sure how you keep him off the block if he wants to go there. And I’m sure if he was looking for the cop he would have found him, without a voter’s list.

Or are you alleging a Democratic conspiracy to harass cops?

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

It’s Election Day. Do you know where your friendly neighborhood cop killer is???

LFRGary on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Whew, glad that cop shooters aren’t hardcore. And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Kind of like drugging a 13 year old girl and then having sex with her after she says NO repeatedly is not “rape..rape”.

Baxter Greene on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

You do realize the term “gangbangers” has a slightly different definition than it used to, right. Just sayin’.

It's Vintage, Duh on November 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Bipartisanship doesn’t work. It is why we are where we are today. It just leads to more government and more spending. Forget the social issues. Fiscal responsibility won’t happen under our system unless there are clear cut differences in parties.

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Not to defend this but…

Unsolicited Life Lesson: Any communication you open with “I hate to say so, but” should not be made.

First, these are clearly not hardcore “gang-bangers.” Because hardcore gang-bangers, corner boys, crackheads and the like don’t do GOTV for eight bucks an hour.

Yeah, they’re just fingers and tipsters for the triggermen. No reason not to let them know where you live.

What happens is that the party needs canvassers so they hit local colleges (last time I went canvassing, I was paired with an extrem, unions and the like who offer to turn out bodies for the canvass. A bunch of people who are either a) highly motivated ideologues or party “regulars,” or b) poor, bored young people are rounded up, everyone is handed a list and a pen and if they (the poor, bored ones)stay on their route all day they get their $50 or whatever and go home. Inevitably, some of the poor kids are less than model citizens — you’re talking about people who can’t hold down a McDonald’s job — and you occasionally get odd juxtapositions of canvassing teams and neighborhoods that scare the citizenry. Sometimes even black kids get onto the streets of a white neighborhood in Moriss Township.

You are wrong. Race is not a factor. I know it from friends of mine who wear blue, and keep a piece in the bedroom against a few perps of the same color who have promised to Do Something.

Far from being actually intimidating, though, the biggest problem is getting kids who are very shy outside of their element and not motivated to actually knock on the doors in the first place. Note that there is no allegation they were doing anything except being in a neighborhood where the “Didn’t belong.”

No, the biggest problem is that a badge and his family are now marked.

Chris_Balsz on November 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Laugh all you want until Corzine steals the election with 52% of the vote.

BigAlSouth on November 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Bipartisanship doesn’t work. It is why we are where we are today. It just leads to more government and more spending. Forget the social issues. Fiscal responsibility won’t happen under our system unless there are clear cut differences in parties.

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM

“Nonpartisan” is the word for the absence of calculated party interest.

“Bipartisan” just means both parties see political advantage in the situation.

Chris_Balsz on November 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Bipartisanship doesn’t work. It is why we are where we are today. It just leads to more government and more spending. Forget the social issues. Fiscal responsibility won’t happen under our system unless there are clear cut differences in parties.

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Well, my opinion….just that….is that the people are actually on the right track.

Both parties are nearly identical and have totally screwed it up.

We don’t need to play the partisanship game one minute more.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

It’s scenarios like this one outlined above in the main post along with other shady DNC and liberal dealings with elections that paint a pretty clear picture. Thousands and thousands of absentee ballots are pouring in for the NY23 election and the Democrats are asking that the names not be checked against the signatures. Not so coincidentally ACORN is ‘helping’ to gather votes in NY23 by getting people to send in absentee ballots.

gwelf on November 3, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

It’s scenarios like this one outlined above in the main post along with other shady DNC and liberal dealings with elections that paint a pretty clear picture. Thousands and thousands of absentee ballots are pouring in for the NY23 election and the Democrats are asking that the names not be checked against the signatures. Not so coincidentally ACORN is ‘helping’ to gather votes in NY23 by getting people to send in absentee ballots.

gwelf on November 3, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I am curious to hear more.

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I wouldn’t. But, the alleged shooter being released from jail, I’m not sure how you keep him off the block if he wants to go there. And I’m sure if he was looking for the cop he would have found him, without a voter’s list.

I’m sure the hired criminal recognized the name of his arresting officer, but the Democratic party gave him the list with his name, address, and phone number. An accidental occurrence, just remember which party did this.

Or are you alleging a Democratic conspiracy to harass cops?

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Nope, I’m pointing out incompetence in the local Democratic party. These are the roots that make up the rest of the Democrats tree.

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I am curious to hear more.

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I take back my comment about Allah. I apologize Allah, this person right here is the biggest moron on earth.

I’m not even going to try and explain the folly of his statement. He’s a moron, he won’t understand.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I think there will be the usual finger-pointing group about voter fraud.

Here’s the reality. MN wore people out on this topic.

Go ahead. File away. But that will just create thousands of blogs discussing stupid issues.

The fact is that NJ allows thuggery in the voting process.

And until something changes? It won’t change.

I presume this is due to the fact that most NJ people are used to this, rely upon unions for their lifestyles, and that’s just how it is.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I am curious to hear more.

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Well you completely dodged the Democrat request that absentee votes actually be vetted for accuracy/validity.

And ACORN is under investigation in many (15+) states for voter fraud.

Democrats also oppose any real system to ensure that a vote is from a valid voter – even something as simple as requiring a valid photo id at the polling place.

gwelf on November 3, 2009 at 12:01 PM

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Well, I can only speak for myself. The ACORN attacks on the Democratic caucuses were documented in detail. The Democratic party ignored the complaints. After all, the first black candidate couldn’t be accused of thug tactics. That’s racist, right?

Except the reports were just that. It was awful.

And then later, the Democratic party promised to investigate.

I’ve never seen any report.

I got the message. They turned a blind eye. I left the party the minute I got that message. I will NEVER support a corrupt party to that extent. A bit of cheating? OK, I’m no purist. But this was widespread and intimidated even Latino voters in Texas and elderly.

That’s disgusting. That is NOT liberal.

And I won’t pretend.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Doing this can’t help race relations

GunRunner on November 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I presume this is due to the fact that most NJ people are used to this, rely upon unions for their lifestyles, and that’s just how it is.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM

So NJ is apparently still the armpit of the country as it has always been? Sad sad state of affairs. I’m glad I’ve only been to NJ 3 times and all 3 times have been Secaucus.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I live in town next to the one in this incident. First heard a rumor of this last night and that they were handing out fliers for the local council race. Plausible because the dem council guy is a bit of a weasel.

Morris County is a very red county in a very blue state but the Essex and Hudson county machines are trying to push their way in.

murty on November 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM

On a 0-10 scale of surprise this is a 0.3 for me.

angryed on November 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Looks as if Dems(most of them anyway)do not have much respect for the law and ethics is a word and principle completely foreign.

jeanie on November 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I think this kind of stuff is what makes national attention turn stupid.

NJ is NJ. The problem of corruption really isn’t a national issue.

It’s just NJ, the heritage of unions.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM

This needs follow up on if these guys are on Democratic payroll. Democrats are the new Gang Bangers, Truly the Democrats represent the criminals interests. If true it would not be unusual for Democrats to associate with criminals. To steal elections you need to hire a thief.

Ed Laskie on November 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM

In the end these kinds of shenanigans will always backfire on those responsible for them.

Voting is a voluntary activity. Voting for a particular candidate or party is doubly so.

If a bunch of obvious thugs came to my door asking that I vote for a particular candidate, you can rest assured I would not be encouraged to do so.

Anyone stupid enough to feel coerced into doing their bidding is already voting for the Democrat anyway.

leereyno on November 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Ed, If they can’t unseat corrupt politicians because of extensive voter fraud, then the next likely thing to happen is for people to start abandoning NJ like they’re abandoning NY.

LFRGary on November 3, 2009 at 12:15 PM

In the end these kinds of shenanigans will always backfire on those responsible for them.

Voting is a voluntary activity. Voting for a particular candidate or party is doubly so.

If a bunch of obvious thugs came to my door asking that I vote for a particular candidate, you can rest assured I would not be encouraged to do so.

Anyone stupid enough to feel coerced into doing their bidding is already voting for the Democrat anyway.

leereyno on November 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM

I agree. It’s commonsense. However, the unions still dictate a lot of people in this state. Their retirements rest on them.

That’s huge clout.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Whew, glad that cop shooters aren’t hardcore. And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

In BB’s case, that would be “votes Republican”.

MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

For some time now I have been alluding that the reason the progressive Dems have had such confidence in pursuing their agenda in contradiction to their constituent’s wishes, is their possible knowledge afore hand, activist efforts to undermine the process. Absentee ballots, lost ballots, fraudulent ballots, voter intimidation, legal challenges, false flag ops, and all manner of subversive tactics should be expected by any movement that wishes to challenge their grip on power.

Expect it to get worse going forward, much worse. With a successful backlash against their statist agenda tonight, their desperation to hold onto their recent gains in their 120yr quest to foist a fascist domination over our democratic republic, will only increase. Desperate people are inclined to desperate and dangerous things.

With our every success we enjoy in regaining our liberties, the stakes will be raised ever higher, it’ll come down to political will, and who can reach into deeper pockets of committment.Who can afford to pony up the fortitude to stay at the table.

On the right it will be in the price of harassment, intimidation and the indignity of the vilest of forms charachter assassination.

Seeing as how most public services are doled out from bastions they control, Health, Education, Streets and Sanitation, even Emergency Services, moving on towards 2010 & 12 look for delays and denials of provision to neighborhoods that are strongholds of conservatism. Such conderations may seem far-fetched to most Americans, but in the belly of machine politics like here in Chicago these are common practices. Lack of trash removal, neglect of snow ploughing are standard practice, I’ve not seen it rise her to denial of Emergency Services, yet.

However, if the refutation progressive policies struggled for since Woodrow Wilson’s famous decree, “Conformity will be the only virtue and any man who refuses to conform will have to pay the penalty.” , look to be seriously endangered, they may go to lenghts most thought not possible in America.

I expect them to keep ponying up, especially if 2010′s results look similar to tonights. There is no telling the shennanigans they will be willing to commit keep their modern day Wilson in office. Obama’s narcissism seems the equal to any, be it Chavez or Il Duce, such ego’s can justify all manner of atrocious behavior to annoint us with the blessings of their munificience.

To fully grasp the cost to conscience and level of committment the progressives will bring to stay in “the game”, one need only recall the gulags and killing feilds they’ve ponied up in the past.
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Archimedes on November 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Democratic prosecutors and Attorneys General refuse to investigate cases of voter fraud that benefits Democratic office holders. And this is proof that the fraud never took place.

MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I always look at these door to door campaigns coming from the Dems as possibly getting an idea of who was going to vote and who was not. It helps in voter fraud to know who won’t show up.

jeffn21 on November 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM

NJ is NJ. The problem of corruption really isn’t a national issue.

It’s just NJ, the heritage of unions.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Unfortunately, the representatives and senators from NJ, are still permitted to vote on national issues once they reach Washington.

MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Whew, glad that cop shooters aren’t hardcore. And your definition of hardcore is what?

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

In BB’s case, that would be “votes Republican”.

MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Heh, you’re probably right. I guess we’ll never know since he merely responded to, but did not answer my question.

CBP on November 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM

NJ is NJ. The problem of corruption really isn’t a national issue.

It’s just NJ, the heritage of unions.

Yeah, there are no public sector unions outside of New Jersey. There’s no SEIU, AFSCME, NEA, and the like.

Nope. It’s all New Jersey.

Lord, how some people go through life with their blinders on.

Crawford on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Youz guyz oughta listened when I told ya dat da “dead vote” was easier to handle. My old man knew all ’bout dat. Remember when some ward guyz signed up hundreds and hundreds of loyal democrats – da ones who lived right on top of the Rock Island Line railroad tracks? Dey never wanted nuttin’ – not so much as a frozen turkey at Christmas- and dey was 100% loyal to Da Machine. I’m tellin’ ya, da “Dead” and da “ghost” voters is da only way to go. 100% dependable and don’t cost ya nuttin’.

MayorDaley on November 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM

We can’t really criticize them, these guys are actually the leaders of the local Dem party.

These guys didn’t even try to hide their snuggling with SEIU during rallies, the guys were right up there with Obama and Corzine the whole time.

Rbastid on November 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Gangbangers or brown shirts, what’s the difference aside from 70-years? And Pelosi wonders why we compare this adminstrations tactics and propaganda to Hitler’s? Get a clue Nanc!

Goldy1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

The ratio of accusations of Republicans attempting to disenfranchise minority voters to actual incidences of the same is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof, yet it’s one of the lefts’ most heart-felt beliefs.

Crawford on November 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

The ration of Republican complaints about ballot stuffing to the number of actual convictions over the years is pretty high, suggesting more paranoia than proof.

Okay ACORN troll, lunch is over and you need to get back to work. Oh wait a sec, this is your work.

Goldy1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Democratic prosecutors and Attorneys General refuse to investigate cases of voter fraud that benefits Democratic office holders. And this is proof that the fraud never took place.

Well, yes, of course. And all the while, when you attempt something as simple as requiring photo identification — with the availability of FREE government-issued photo IDs — the Democrats screech about disenfranchisement. Who, exactly, would that disenfranchise? Fake voters and dead voters.

I think it’s telling that when they attempted to challenge the Indiana photo-ID requirement in court, at least one of their plaintiffs admitted to illegally voting in more than one jurisdiction.

Crawford on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

NJ is NJ. The problem of corruption really isn’t a national issue.

It’s just NJ, the heritage of unions.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Ann, Ann, Ann, tsk-tsk. Don’t forget Los Angeles, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, Detroit, Cleveland, Miami, and just every other US metropolitian area. As well the entire states of NY, Illinoios, Hawaii etc.

American’s are ADD that they cannot even conceive of plans beyond a 5-10yr window. The progressive movement, without interruption, has striven to overthrow our grand experiment for close 120 years.

You can trace a straight line of descendancy from then to now. From Upton Sinclair in (S.side Chg) the Back of the yards, to Saul Alinsky (S.side Chg) who mentored Frank Marshall Davis, Paul Jones, Vernon Jarrett who then mentored Barack Obama, David Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett respectively who all further studied the expansion of Alinsky’s theorems of Cloward and Piven of Columbia University.

Your pooh-poohing the depth of the danger posed by the progressives is precisely what they have been encouraging by denigrating concerns regarding communism ever since the wall has fallen. Thise efforts may have been abandoned their but have been alive and well here under the progressive banner carried by Team Obama. Just as the lineage listed above there is the evolution of the Communist Party-New Party-Working Families Party, all of which have been the instruments through which they have ascended to power.

The threat is real, it is now, and it is pervasive. Naysayers such as yourself only enable the subterfuge under which they operate!

Archimedes on November 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM

…AFSCME, NEA, …Nope. It’s all New Jersey. Lord, how some people go through life with their blinders on. – Crawford on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Teacher Unions aye, but, that’s the other problem.
Truth is though, that the NorthEast Red States and cities ala Jersey, are not only a festering cesspool of rotten labor unions and racketeers, they are the socialist/statist incubator of criminal thugs that the current Dmocrat Admin use as threat agents against those honest citizens who stand against their machine politics. If unchecked we will see more violence, an escalation of NEW Black Panther Party voter intimidation, or SEIU assaults, as their enforcer stakes in the corruption and Acorn power grow.

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on November 3, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Who am I?

I don’t know the whole story, but the cops acted stupidly

maybe we could have a crack summit

Sonosam on November 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Crawford at 12:50

What’s saddest of all is that in Ohio, anybody who walked in the door had to be given a provisional ballot, no matter what. Unless the provisional ballot mismatched against DMV and SS records the vote had to count. BUT THE OHO SECRETARY OF STATE WOULDN’T LET THE COUNTY ELECTIONS BOARDS SEE THE DMV AND SOCIAL SECURITY RECORDS.

IOW, anybody could vote on a provisional ballot and have it count.

When the Republican Party appealed to have the Secretary of State follow the Motor-Voter Act which required her to check names against the DMV and SS records – and NOT allow her to say that just having her get a computer printout of DMV and SS info which she then flushed down the toilet and never used – the SCOTUS denied “standing”.

IOW, it’s nobody’s damned business if a Secretary of State breaks state and/or national law in order to steal an election.

Until this changes, we will never be able to count on government even PRETENDING to do our will, since we carry no threat to somebody whose election is guaranteed because the SOS is part of their thugocracy.

We seriously need to consider how to get rid of partisan control over law enforcement.

justincase on November 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM

It is hardly an attempt to steal the election, it’s simply a problem of hiring high-quality labor for a crappy, short-term job.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Yet the Dems were caught paying for robocalls, for the independent candidate. Encouraging voters to vote for the Independent, over the Conservative. A moment of desparation is what we’ll call this. When you’re drowning, you fight like hell to live. This is no different. Corruption is, what it is…and how dare they give gang members the addresses, and phone numbers of police officers. That’s as unethical as it gets, and don’t for one second think, they didn’t know exactly who they were giving this info to.

capejasmine on November 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM

You know the MSM will be right on top of this.

yoda on November 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM

If true, this demonstrates the steep hill Republicans have in dislodging an entrenched Democratic power base in New Jersey that has clearly become unresponsive to voters.

What this really demonstrates is that democrats are too stupid to deal with facts. Their parents were democrats and so were their grandparents, and by God, so are they.

Things change over time and anyone with an open mind and eyes to see and ears to hear, knows that the democratic party today is nothing but a criminal organization supporting other criminal organziations. And what are criminal organizations about? Power and control.

cjs1943 on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Interesting the sorts of people that embrace the Democratic Party, isn’t it?

Why would convicted felons, gangbangers, and other assorted criminal types support the Democratic Party’s vision of America?

Same reason the Brown Shirts supported the policies outlined in Mein Kampf, criminals tend to stick together.

Joe Pyne on November 3, 2009 at 2:04 PM

The Democrat Party:

Of the Thugs.

By the Thugs.

For the Thugs.

TN Mom on November 3, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Thugs in the Classroom

Any more doubters?

bloviator on November 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Thugocracy at its best!!!!

DL13 on November 3, 2009 at 3:33 PM

..this demonstrates the steep hill Republicans have in dislodging an entrenched Democratic power base in New Jersey that has clearly become unresponsive to voters.

Brother, you don’t know the half of it. Expect to see rumors (if not evidence) of election fraud; it follows a Jersey election as night follows the day.

Paul_in_NJ on November 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Barackus Hubris Maximus *hail caesar!* jets all over the world kissing the arses feet of criminals and felons.

Why should anyone be surprised or shocked to see that they’d hire domestic criminals or enlist them as volunteers to work the Get Out The Vote angle too?

Birds of a feather. They flock together.

SilverStar830 on November 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

I posted this last night on my twitter.

Convicted Criminals Hired To Collect Voter Information

Petition signature collectors are often the first and last people who greet customers at the grocery store during the political season.

But Team 5 Investigates has discovered some of the people hired to get your personal information might have some of their own information to hide.

Washington D.C. group called the Ballot Initiative Strategy Center wrote a report about petition fraud. It gives Massachusetts a failing grade for keeping voters safe and the election process free from fraud.

William Amos on November 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I’m convinced we have to get past all the garbage from the past if we’re going to re-emerge from the crash.

We at least should try. People who get stuck in past arguments/debates have actually thrown in the towel.

They are giving up.

I haven’t yet seen bona fide vision yet. But I am not willing to yet decide it doesn’t exist.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Wrong Ann they’re arming up…

huckelberry on November 3, 2009 at 5:10 PM

We must not let Criminals get jobs!!!
Felons should stay off the streets!!!
I say vote with your feet!!!
A campground and small stipend could be provide upon completion of a prison sentence, this would be much safer than just allowing them to apply for any job they might want.

Observation on November 3, 2009 at 7:13 PM

It is hardly an attempt to steal the election, it’s simply a problem of hiring high-quality labor for a crappy, short-term job.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

What does Obama have to do with this?

jdkchem on November 3, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Observation on November 3, 2009 at 7:13 PM

What an ignorant comment.

jdkchem on November 3, 2009 at 9:37 PM

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