Open thread: New Jersey; Update: Christie wins, says AP; Update: NBC calls it too
posted at 8:20 pm on November 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
Too close to call, to no one’s surprise. Erick Erickson’s hearing bad things anecdotally, but but but:
According to early exit poll data released by CNN, ex-U.S. Atty Chris Christie (R) leads Gov. Jon Corzine among indie voters, 58-33%. Indies make up 27% of the electorate thus far today.
For comparison, the latest Monmouth Univ. poll — which had an overall two-point lead for Corzine — showed Christie beating Corzine among indies by a narrower margin, 43-33%.
Hard to believe that Corzine wins, even in a blue state, if the indie margin is that big. Results are being posted here. Get comfy. This one will go for hours.
Update: For what it’s worth, one of Geraghty’s sources is hearing … Christie by one percent.
Update: Corzine’s InTrade numbers are collapsing, no doubt because of those indie numbers.
Update: Thinks are looking very good at the moment. With 44 percent of the votes in, Christie leads by five. Plus this from Geraghty: “Christie wins Glouster County, which Obama carried by 12.2 percent last year.”
Update: With 58 percent of precincts reporting, Christie leads by … six. I’m starting to feel good.
Update: RCP is feeling good too:
9:46 — NYT fixed Sussex County. 58% in, Christie leads by 90,000 votes. I don’t think there’s enough votes out there for Corzine to win. –SEAN TRENDE
Update: More from RCP on a huge upset brewing:
Some math here. Corzine trails by about 100,000 votes, with 66% reporting. Where does he make up that 100K? The big money districts for Dems are Camden, Essex and Hudson. Camden is 2/3 in with 70k votes. Give Corzine the rest of the votes and its about 30k votes. Do this type of analysis with Hudson and Essex and you get 50k or so for Hudson and 13k for Essex, which gets him his 100k. But there’s still Republican counties out there, and Corzine isn’t going to get 100% of those votes (probably). –SEAN TRENDE
Update: I knew Jerseyans wouldn’t reelect that deadbeat: NJ has a Republican governor, according to the AP.
Update: NBC just called it for Christie too and there are still 20 percent of precincts still to report. The race wasn’t even that close.
Update: The One can spin Virginia but he can’t spin this. Jonah Goldberg:
Remember their explanation for Deeds’ loss was that Deeds didn’t embrace Obama enough. Corzine hugged Obama and made the election about Obama in a state Obama carried by 15 points and where Dems outnumber Republicans by a wide margin. And he lost.









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SMELL THE CHANGE.
Animator Girl on November 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Right on, fat dude!
Hannibal Smith on November 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM
58% of Indies went for Christie! DAMN!
SouthernGent on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Northeast ain’t all bad, folks.
blatantblue on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Any word on California? I know it’s eraly…
hawksruleva on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
True baby, true.
There’ll be an extra rock in the red sock this Christmas for ya Pookster! Keep hanging tough on the couch!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Fat man in a governor’s coat……
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
It’s hard to hear over the yelps of the Blue Dogs!
TN Mom on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
What, Shep is crying over Corzine or something?
ThePrez on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
The fat
ladyman just sang! It’s OVER!newton on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Like California, many folks in the Northeast WOULD VOTE for conservatives, if given the chance.
hawksruleva on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Chicago 2016!
LibTired on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
smells like victory, either that or napalm!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
No it wasn’t.
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
And slim Corzine will have more time to spend at the gym…
newton on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Queue the Humpbot, Allahpundit.
FloatingRock on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Unnatural.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Tossing out a question. When was the last time NJ elected a Republican governor, 1498? Just kidding, but I am curious.
betsyz on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
CNN now focusing on gay marriage issues in Maine, really
Willie on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Why aren’t the trolls on this thread?…for some reason they are only on the Hoffman thread.
CWforFreedom on November 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM
That’s called ‘misdirection’…….
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Just watch. The Precedent is going to pretend that nothing happened, just like after the town halls and DC rally. The question is whether the lunatics on the Hill are going to go along with him, again. The Traitor-in-Chief is not going to change his attitude one little bit. He’s been so detached from reality for so long (to be so arrogant and such a total moron, making one hugely embarrassing public gaffe and mistake after another) that it’s nothing to him. Watch Reid. I think his actions are going to sell the story. The Washington junta is all-in, already, so I’m not sure that they will do anything more than wait a month and try to force the whole thing again …
progressoverpeace on November 3, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Oh excellent, I was wondering how Our Modern Day Murrow was fairing tonight.
Terribly, I would hope.
Vyce on November 3, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Is it too early to say Waterloo?
redwhiteblue on November 3, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Sweet! It’s time for Christie to start a RICO investigation of ACORN and all other organizations that represent Obama’s ground game in New Jersey. It’s a matter of principle.
BottomLine5 on November 3, 2009 at 10:38 PM
He, simplesimon, crr6 and bleeds blue are all over on the NY thread, trying to get some attention.
4shoes on November 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM
3 visits from Obama
2 visits from Bill Clinton
1 visit from Biden
Chrisie wins………Priceless!
njpat on November 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Having been clued into the fact you are a woman, all’s I can say is you are one wickedly dumb broad. Get laid once in a while. Take the edge off….
Gang-of-One on November 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Christie Whitman. 1994(?)
IrishEi on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
liberals really do smell like poo when they lose – prob b/c they just shat their pants – how’s all this CHANGE feeling now??
Note: simply-tampon cannot multi task – poor dear
Ris4victory on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
CNN is actually now talking about last year’s election and Sarah Palin’s war with John McCain. Seriously.
We’ve won 2 gubernatorial elections in blue states and are closing the gap in NY23. And they’re talking about last year’s election.
Pathetic.
amerpundit on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Today on Hannity, Christie mentioned the fact that he is a former federal prosecutor and had a few hundred lawyers on the street also many hundreds of poll observers. Thats a lesson we need to take to the 2010/2012 elections and beat Acorn and the voter fraud factor.
sonnyspats1 on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
This is a great night!!!! We are taking our country back, bitches!
jonezee on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Funny thing, that. Outside of getting egg on Obama’s face for campaigning for Corzine, this has zero implications for movement conservatives…unlike NY23 ;)
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME…
(don’t leave me hanging)
abobo on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Well, this was a good sign. But we’ve got a long way to go.
hawksruleva on November 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Tom Kean 1982-1990
Christine Todd Whitman, 1994-2001
ya2daup on November 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Senior citizens and independents won it for Christie, no doubt whatever.
The stats are incredibly lopsided in these two groups and this should scare Obama and the libs silly.
Schadenfreude on November 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Kill kill kill!
I’m just saying, that’s all.
Don’t wanna cast no aspersions.
Coronagold on November 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
….TOO ROOST!
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:42 PM
You from around here? GOP wins here more often than it may seem, Whitman/Pataki days aren’t that far gone ya know.
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:42 PM
And they, my dear, are quaking tonight in their Birckenstocks.
Hell Yeah!
TXUS on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Sha na na na
Sha na na na
Hey hey hey,
Good-bye!
Haiku Guy on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
So now Christie has to lower taxes and put NJ back on the right economic track. Anyone think that will actually happen?
My Prediction: When Christie epically fails to lower taxes and NJ stays the course, the people here at Hotair will be yelling RINO, RINO, RINO!
Decider on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
thread winner.
John the Libertarian on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
+1000
This is just a nice beginning. We’ve got a long way to go to get the same kind of night a year from now.
But if Barry the Clown keeps his crap up he’ll make it a lot easier for us…….
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Their base needs some comforting.
sherry on November 3, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Conservatives already won big in NY-23. If Hoffman takes it, after all the turmoil, that would just be icing. Getting him the spot as the ticket was the message, and it’s been heard.
progressoverpeace on November 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Wait a second! Christie won? I don’t get it. Don’t people know how fat he is?
Proud Rino on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
and now his work is cut out for him; the Demo machine still reigns in the legislature and in the press; going to be a tough crowd; even the local NJ station is already not cutting him any slack
Willie on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Oh man, Hoffman is losing?
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Please don’t objectify the bot. His name, as of tonight, is…
Pookie.
TXUS on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Change I can believe in!
Schadenfreude on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Whitman left office in 2001 — eight years ago. Bush was new in office. Pataki left in 2006, but the last election he won was in 2002 — 7 years ago. Bush was one of the most popular presidents in history at the time.
In politics, that’s a lifetime.
amerpundit on November 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
…to get away from simplesimon?
LibTired on November 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Yeah, a message got heard, it was just that NY23 doesn’t like meddling national movement conservatives from Alaska ;-)
In all seriousness though, what I take out of NY23 is not a very large national impact, but a reminder that all politics is local.
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM
True. True. But these results must shake-up the Blue Dogs and the squirmy Republicans aplenty. They HAVE to rethink their strategies and loyalties, simply because of the self-preservation, future political career factor. After tonight, even the dopiest must see, there will be blood.
betsyz on November 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Congresswoman Wasserman-Schultz (D), true to her name “I see nothing, I know nothing”…it all has nothing to do with Obama…bla, bla, bla…the far right…bla, bla, bla…
Schadenfreude on November 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM
No, i live in VA. From outside NJ, looking in, it just appears to be an awfully blue state. Looks like ya’ll are changing that though. Good on ya.
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Tossing out a question. When was the last time NJ elected a Republican governor, 1498? Just kidding, but I am curious.
betsyz on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Christine Todd Whitman-90′s
Archimedes on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I must say that I personally like Hoffman, as a person. I’ll be most disappointed if he doesn’t win.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM
CHRISTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love ya, Fat Man!
David2.0 on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM
The message in NY-23 is to the GOP. It struck home. Hoffman’s people seem to say that their votes are still to come in, as per the update over there. Like I said, a win there would be real icing. This night has been a national thumping, with or without it.
progressoverpeace on November 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Maybe so, but they first won during the Clinton era. And during their time, NY and NJ had little to no conservative governance to speak of. And through it all, those states produce reliably democratic senate seats as well as presidential votes.
Christie winning in NJ doesn’t really make waves in terms of policy or the congressional agenda.
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM
CNN is currently dragging US soldiers through the mud in a special look back at Iraq…or something.
MSNBC is playing vampire music to Glenn Beck quotes…or something.
And the news channel that Obama says isn’t the news is reporting all over the place on the impact of today’s election results. And they are giving democrats a lot of time to talk about today’s election results. I call that fair and balanced.
redwhiteblue on November 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM
She is annoying beyond words.
progressoverpeace on November 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM
That’s not the Corzine I knew.
MarkBoabaca on November 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM
concession speech coming
Willie on November 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM
LOL
Proud Rino on November 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM
This is not a referendum on Precedent Barry Soetoro, however it is one on Democratic policies of high taxes and excessive spending…
phreshone on November 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Corzine CONCEDES!!!
John the Libertarian on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Hey Corzine! Whats worse than being a fat guy?
Getting beat by a fat guy.
Speedwagon82 on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
betsyz on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Corzine is saying buh-bye…
Seven Percent Solution on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Obama’s boy Corzine is giving up the farm right now!!!!!
CYA JOHNNIE BOY> Go ask for that ambassadorship NOW!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Thats just the thing, this isnt changing that. This isnt indicative of a real shift in NJ or the northeast in general, and certainly isnt indicative of those voters feelings towards the congressional or presidental agendas.
As I said before. this is a state that – like NY – can vote for (R) governors like Whitman and Pataki, while remaining a solidly blue state.
ernesto on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Corzine’s conceded.
No lawyering in this one.
DONE.
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Beat? Hell, biaaatch slapped and beat!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM
thanking labor HAH
Willie on November 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Getting beat in a “blue” state after he spent all that $ out of his own pocket.
njpat on November 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM
obviously no concession speech was prepared
Willie on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Let me guess, the WHITE HOUSE ain’t watching this one either….!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
MSNBC – The Place for Politics – showing World Series highlights, not even a scroll with election results.
Style Doggie on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I still cant believe it and I cant believe Corzine got so many votes.
Dash on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Corzine will go after Lautenberg’s senate seat now…and try to screw the nation. Lautenberg is like 90 now.
njpat on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! This is Jersey’s equivalent of the Berlin Wall coming down. All those corrupt aholes I have seen get elected from across the bridge (of course you only have to pay to get out of NJ), and finally the bastards went down.
PS: Am I the only one hoping the Dem beats Bloomberg? I hate that fascist bastard. How he is not a democrat baffles me.
LevStrauss on November 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
ouch, that’s got to hurt in a down economy. How’s that hopenchange going to fill that hole in his pocket now?
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
John Corzine: “Gimme back my money, you ungrateful peons!”
progressoverpeace on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
YAaaaaHOOOOOOOooooooooo!
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For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really, REALLY proud of my state!
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I think this historic election proves once and for all that New Jerseyites are not waistist…
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Cortez is on the radio right now doing his surrender speech… He just thanked the
thugsunions…-
Thank you all my fellow Jersey folk. Today is a great day.
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And to Obambie…….. Suck an egg.
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RalphyBoy on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Wonder what Corzy will do now considering the terrible economy in NJ?
Used car salesman? Vacuum cleaner demonstrator?
Nah…..I’m sure a union somewhere has a fat no-show gig for him…..
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
I guess Obama can’t take him to DC now, that would be kind of embarassing.
njpat on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Healthcare… please stop dude. And seriously, cut your hair. Buzz it tight on the sides you look absurd.
Dash on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Hell, the Blue Dog from PA already warned Pelosi and Reid that the election outcomes would have heavy implications for donk legislative voting patterns. What else do you call that if it isn’t affecting agenda?
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
How so? He’s surrounded by a bunch of losers anyway. He also said he’s not interested ‘in victory’ if you knowwhutimean…!
ted c on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Now they should throw him in jail for the stunt they pulled with Daggett.
njpat on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
They’re chanting “Obama…..Obama…Obama…!” at Corzy’s concession speech.
WTF?!?
JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
He said Christie responded to the “You’re Fat” slinging with a “Yeah, but you’re bald”… which is just not true.
Methinks Sheppy watches MSLSD more than his own “Channel”.
roscopico on November 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
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