ObamaCare may slip to January 2010
posted at 12:15 pm on November 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The push to overhaul the American medical system may not move forward until after the New Year, Politico reports, which opens a whole new set of questions about the Obama agenda for the 111th Congress. Nancy Pelosi’s new bill and its mushrooming cost will almost certainly get addressed this month, but the real problem is in the Senate — and not just for Senators:
Democrats have blown so many deadlines for getting health reform done this year that insiders are increasingly skeptical they can finish by year’s end — and some even suggest the effort might slip to a new deadline, before the State of the Union address.
The discussions are an acknowledgment that with only two months left in the year, Democrats are still a long way from sending a bill to the president’s desk. The House could take up reform on the floor as early as this week, with a good shot at passing something by Veterans Day.
But in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid is still wrangling with his moderate members to corral 60 votes just to get the debate started. And on Monday, Reid sent a letter to Republicans acknowledging that he is waiting on the Congressional Budget Office’s cost estimates and analysis to finish drafting a bill. Democrats signaled that those estimates would not be ready this week, casting further doubt on their ability to finish reform this year.
Democratic Sen. Kent Conrad said he spoke with CBO Director Doug Elmendorf last week and that it sounded like “it would be quite a while” before the estimates were ready. The news makes a Christmas completion “a challenge,” Conrad said.
Barack Obama knew that he needed to pass this quickly in Congress, which is why he put so much pressure on Capitol Hill to get it done by the August recess — in retrospect, a ridiculous notion. The last thing he needed was having his two big statist agenda items, ObamaCare and cap-and-trade, leaking into an election year Both are widely unpopular with likely voters, but having a full year between their passage and the midterms would have allowed anger to subside, especially since both bills take a couple of years to ramp up their effects.
If the health-care overhaul gets pushed into 2010, that strategy goes out the window — for both bills. The closer their votes come to Election Day, the less enthusiastic red-state Democrats will get about either of them, perhaps especially cap-and-trade. With majorities of likely voters unhappy with both bills, Democrats would be daring the electorate to throw them out of power in the House, and handing the Republicans an easy campaign against big government, high taxation, and undisciplined spending.
That becomes doubly true if the Republicans can pull off the big East Coast sweep tonight, in particular New Jersey. Obama campaigned hard for Jon Corzine, and even a narrow win for the Democrat in a heavily Democratic state will not convince moderates in either chamber that running on Obama’s coattails will help them in the midterms. If Christie wins, expect more Democrats on Capitol Hill to start siding with Joe Lieberman and asking for incremental reforms rather than the comprehensive government takeover proposals being pushed by Pelosi and her progressive allies.
By January, expect a full revolt over ObamaCare and cap-and-trade. And expect the Democrats to look mighty foolish as they choke on items 2 and 3 of their Congressional agenda.










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Boom goes the dynamite. Been saying this for 2 months now. It’s dead. It’s been dead. It died under the $9 trillion debt announcement.
lorien1973 on November 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Heh
gophergirl on November 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Oh I hope so.
upinak on November 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM
keep your powder dry until after Thanksgiving. In December, bug your Senators like no tomorrow (especially D’s). Explain to them that you won’t vote for them if they vote for this.
DAILY contact them in December. Make it the 12 days of Christmas. . . but December is the time when you need to make your voice heard for this bill.
ThackerAgency on November 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM
I know I don’t support either version, the House or the Senate.
My reason? It’s way too old-style thinking. One size fits all.
They really should have engaged in real discussion.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM
This is one piece of Ed Morrissey analysis I so hope is fundamentally correct.
radioboyatl on November 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Kill
The
Bill.
Skywise on November 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM
and, I am SO for universal healthcare, too. I should have added that.
I fall into that polling group that wants to see reform, real reform.
But not this.
The direction, I support. The result, I do not.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Coal in everyone’s stockings this year.
Merry Christmas!
Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I remember reading a piece that Obama won’t make a decision on Afghanistan until health care reform was undertaken….does this mean his decision on afghanistan will be extended as well until the beginning of the new year instead?
deidre on November 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Ed, remember that Obama did not campaign recently for Corzine, remember? wink, wink, nudge, nudge???
Johnnyreb on November 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Can I has deadlock, plzthnx?
pseudonominus on November 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
They would have had the goal actually been health care reform.
It isn’t.
darwin on November 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Awesome I will be warm.. er, oh.. you were being sarcastic. :(
upinak on November 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
BTW- How much of the $500M in fraud and waste have we saved to date.
rjoco1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Can I ask you do you actually think health care in this country will get better under a universal health care system?
deidre on November 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM
He better… even the Democrats who have kids over there are getting ticked off.
upinak on November 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I think this outcome hinges not on NJ, but on NY-23. VA is unquestionable a Dem loss. NY-23 is the key though. If the Dem wins, the Blue Dogs will have their elbows twisted nearly off. If Hoffman wins…they’re going to be running scared.
NJ…at this point, no matter who wins, it’s bad. If Corzine eaks it, there’s the fact he barely one in a solid blue state and the unquestionable stench of corruption and voter fraud. If Christie wins, AND SURVIVES THE RECOUNT, then Obamacare is done.
Rogue on November 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Chances of ObamaCare passing per InTrade right now: A measly 8.6%.
Put a fork in it.
Norwegian on November 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM
I thought that might really happen when Obama actually mentioned tort reform. Sadly, I was mistaken.
Johnnyreb on November 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM
“I want the bill on my desk by the August Recess”
“nothing gets done in this town without a deadline”
JusDreamin on November 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM
We appreciate that. The 60,000 times you’ve said that just weren’t enough.
Chuck Schick on November 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM
AnninCA, you want single payer health care?
OhioCoastie on November 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM
It has been said that the other side of aisle is the party of “no”, but they have been more than willing to discuss reform that makes sense…that pinpoints the 12 million that do not have coverage. Unfortunately, the libs are not open for any discussion. They will be eating their choices in 2010 and 2012.
jbh45 on November 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Shorter Ann:
I want hot ice cream, but I don’t want it all runny and junk.
BobMbx on November 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Wait – Obama and his goons told us that this HAD TO BE PASSED OR PEOPLE WOULD DIE by this past summer.
And yet, we’re all still here. We’re all still healthy. We haven’t slid into chaos. Hell – the O-bots are out there trying to convince people that the economy is IMPROVING.
Well, O-bots, if it’s IMPROVING without this massive piece of Democrat-laden crap legislation, then what is the URGENT NEED to pass it and cram it down the country’s throat?
There is no need except for POLITICAL need. Hence, we are left to conclude that the Democrats are simply playing politics with your medical care and your medical insurance.
Because they “care.”
Good Lt on November 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM
The Dems would have been better off using an incremental approach–passing small health care reform bills one at a time. They could have tinkered with the math each time to tie the hands of the CBO. And while Conservatives would be shrieking about the onset of socalism, the Dem’s media allies likely would have be able to successfully paint the criticism as fringe insanity, given how small and how “reasonable” each part of the bill was.
Thankfully, they’re instead stuck with a massive millstone which contacts many of the third rails of American politics. Obama’s overreach in the first days of his presidency may have doomed his reform agenda.
Revenant on November 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Looks like that , takeover was the goal.
the_nile on November 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Killing this Bill and finishing off the remainder of the Obama agenda for dessert, will be a great victory for the American people.
For once, Democrat ignorance and incompetence works for the American people.
For the coup de grace, we need to take back Congress in 2010 and make Obama completely irrelevant for the sad remainder of his one and only term, prior to kicking his ass to the curb of Pennsylvania Avenue on January 20, 2013.
NoDonkey on November 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Ugh, what is it going to take to kill this thing, a stake through the heart? Garlic?
Kensington on November 3, 2009 at 12:30 PM
I have a bad feeling about this….
This will keep getting postponed next year as well. Don’t think for one second that Thursday’s vote is right after today’s election by accident.
If they do it on an election year, they may wait to see what these Blue Dogs’ chances are in October. If they are gonna lose anyways, then they have 2 cohoices: 1)just vote for the bill and get a job with the Democratic Party. 2)Vote against and lose the election anyways and have nothing to show for it.
jeffn21 on November 3, 2009 at 12:31 PM
My liberal wife has always been for the single payer health care option. Even she is getting fed up with Pelosi’s overreach. The individual mandates, the costs, growth of government. I told her she is starting to sound like a conservative, but she is clinging to the fantasy of single-payer. Though, the democrats may be pushing her over to our side.
Mallard T. Drake on November 3, 2009 at 12:32 PM
If they don’t get these 2 bills done this term, the citizens of this country better make damn sure they get more conservatives back in the House and Senate. I don’t want to go through this again.
moc23 on November 3, 2009 at 12:32 PM
The Jimmy Hoffa treatment. Then it will never come back.
Mallard T. Drake on November 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Tonsil vultures win again.
lorien1973 on November 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I think the Dems need to be given time to regroup. Today’s elections will really send a message.
The fact is that they are pushing an outdated plan, which is reminencent of the 1960′s. I always felt that was the agenda of the insiders against Hillary. They really thought they could take back the world.
This election will make a difference.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Well done.
Mallard T. Drake on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM
It’s oddly ironic, that if the Democrats had not been so eager to push through the first item on their agenda, porkulus, without permitting the GOP any input, without giving any time for debate, without allowing the country time to even read the bill (They hadn’t even finished printing it before the final vote in the House), then they would have had an easier time with the rest of their agenda.
Their heavy handed tactics on that bill left a bad taste in the mouths of many moderates, and as the bad elements of the bill started coming to light, it made everyone much more skeptical when the Democrats again demanded that first Cap and Tax, and then HealthCare Deform be passed quickly, without any debate.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Mallard T. Drake on November 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM
But then they’ll keep digging for it at taxpayer’s expense :)
ORconservative on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Hey Ann if your for single payer then start paying.
Brat4life on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM
It doesn’t matter to me, personally. I think that’s the funny part of this entire debate.
Who cares whether it’s private business or the government deciding?
One decides based on profits. The other decides on votes.
For heaven’s sakes, they are both stupid thinking.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
You are opposed to one size fits all solutions, yet you also support universal health care.
Cognative dissonence on a universal scale.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Single payer is about getting every SINGLE PAYER to pay for Ann’s health care, don’t you see?
Because it’s all about the Anns of this country.
We’re just living in (and paying for) their world.
NoDonkey on November 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM
You know when Hillarycare went down, she exited the stage for a while.
Wonder if Obama will do the same? (I know, I know….)
cs89 on November 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I am sure that it will be spun as “Obama found or saved millions of votes for Corzine”.
percysunshine on November 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM
But the Kaiser system works, because they decide based on- profits?
cs89 on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM
What is that from? One of the local sports guys says it all the time.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM
AnninCA,
A responible leader would say “We would like to address health care reform. However, in light of the fact that we are in one of the worst recessions in the last 100 years and we have an exploding national debt (11+ TRILLION) and we are engaged in 2 foreign conflicts, now is not the appropriate time. Let’s get our economic house in order first, then thoroughly, including all sides of the issue engage the American people in a conversation about health care reform”.
mountainmanbob on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM
The only thing they should be discussing is the repeal of stupid legislation that stands in the way of the productivity of the American economy, and the ongoing national defense issues, period. Tenth amendment; the rest belongs in the State Capitols.
jimmy2shoes on November 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM
:) Good one.
My dream was a major medical plan, funded by people. Major medical/catastrophe plan.
I really think that’s what is needed.
But the current version is way bigger, way more expensive and way more confusing.
I think it’s another Children’s Plan, which makes for good headlines and nobody qualifies.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Hey, AnninCA, I have a simple question for you.
OhioCoastie on November 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Isn’t Kaiser non-profit?
Anyway, I’m a total Kaiser baby. I love it.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Nicely done.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Oh, you poor thing. You’re not married to AnninCA are you?
Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM
MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM
The biggest risk to the Dems is a close race that goes into recounts in NJ.
If they try to pull Frankenvotes out of thin air and the questionable absentee ballots potentially become the tie breaker the electorate will say that the over reach is way too much and the costs down the line will be well beyond a by hook or crook win at all costs.
CommentGuy on November 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM
What’s wrong with profits?
For an insurance company to prosper, it needs to satisfy it’s customers, all of them, all of the time.
For a politician to prosper, he only needs to fool 50% of those who bother to vote, and then only in the months leading up to the election.
Which do you think benefits the people the most?
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM
For those that support single payer health care for those without insurance why don’t they step up to the plate and start paying for those that don’t have insurance. Noone is stopping Botoxpelosi, Dingy Harry, and all the other dems that have the ethics committee looking into them from paying people’s health care. They have millions of dollars and if they want to help them then they should start instead of waiting for this bill to pass.
Yea I know it’s not going to happen, I’m just saying.
Brat4life on November 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM
I really want to say, that I think many who are defending the current system will have to adjust your thinking.
The polls tell the story. Even this plan is gaining 42% by a conservative poller.
So some of you better rethink your position.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM
MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM
It’s from the worst sports cast ever.
lorien1973 on November 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM
My blue dog, Congressman Travis Childers, will be voting against HR 3962, at least that is today’s answer.
Does anyone think this monstrosity might just be defeated in the House?
MississippiMom on November 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM
My gawd…tens of thousands of people dying every month because of a failed healthcare system…and the ‘rats are going to sit on their thumbs for another few months?
Where is the moral imperative, where is the change, where is the saving lives thingie they were talking about a few months ago?
Bishop on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM
You mean the outrageolus 2.2% profits that the insurance industry gouges their insured?
mwdiver on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM
My position is that I want nothing to do with you and your fuhrer’s Mengela system.
MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM
If the bill would have been about reducing costs, instead of taking over a large segment of cash flow in the private sector, it would have passed before the August recess.
Instead, the dems once again show their hand as the greedy bunch of commies that they are.
Nobody should be allowed to forget this.
cntrlfrk on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM
After months and months of this I’m a little bored of dicussing all the good ideas that will never make it into this bill, but I agree with you here.
One of the reasons health insurance is so expensive is because of all the minor, simple things states require it to cover.
I found a catastrophic (5k deductible) plan for $147 a month last year. That’s something most Americans can afford and will pay for if given an incentive to do so; letting them deduct it from their taxes. Add in some tort reform and tear down the walls between states and you’re most of the way towards solving most of the problems.
But then, everyone here at HotAir already knew all these things.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Kaiser is non-profit, but that’s not the same thing as not caring about profitability.
Even non-profits make more money when they have more customers. Which is why the continue to be more customer friendly than any govt agency will ever be.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I think the “For Profits” got caught up in the executive compensation pay comparisons.
I really do.
That was the only indicator of how they were “For Profit.” Overpay you executives.
They then implemented some tactics from the 1930′s to cut costs, including purging people who had paid premiums.
There is absolutely no defense against this practice.
And any of you supporting it?
Honestly, shame on you.
It is absolutely wrong.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I believe Ed reported a couple of weeks back that health insurance companies only posted profit margins of 2.2 percent on average… hardly a winfall. What’s truly stupid is assuming the federal government can create and administer such a program in a way that is fiscally responsible, especially in light of its record on entitlements. Single payer = suicide.
D2Boston on November 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM
If you all think this thing is dead, you are living in a delusional world. There is no way on God’s green earth that Barry is going to let this thing go down in flames. They’re going to try something around Christmas when the country is otherwise engaged. No way — no way — Barry’s letting his socialist utopia slip away before the midterms.
Rational Thought on November 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM
It will always appear like that to you until you understand that all the democrat proposals have absolutely nothing to do with health care. You’re beginning to look foolish. You’re the only one here who thinks this debate is actually about health care.
darwin on November 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Unfortunately, socialism is always popular with those who think they won’t have to pay for it.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Yoohoooo, Ann!
OhioCoastie on November 3, 2009 at 12:46 PM
OK, I thought so. I do think that the bad press Kaiser got was good for patients. They stepped up their quality of care.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:46 PM
The health insurance industry had a profit margin of less then 3%. That’s barely enough to keep the ship floating. You are dangerously naive.
darwin on November 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM
After watching that I like the phrase even more.
BadgerHawk on November 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM
I saw that. But I think the executive compensation packages are still way out of line.
What do YOU think. Really.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM
THat’s exactly correct. People want health care reform meaning, as Ann so beautifully illustrates, They don’t care how it is done they just want their own healthcare paid for by someone else.
I went to pick up a prescription for my son yesterday and the pharmacy wanted my insurance card. I told her I couldn’t find it, she really wanted it. I told her it was useless because the drugs were never covered due to the high deductable which if I met would put me in the poor house.
So………..my point? I do not think people have any idea they are chasing windmills all while being jealous of my insurance. The windmill is only attainable if you are a SEIU member or other union member that gets a payoff from the WH. Otherwise there is no reform in this mess, it is a bigger monstrosity.
ORconservative on November 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Okay, I’ll play your little game.
ProfitRevenue.All better?
Seriously, “non-profits” still have to bring in more than they pay out to stay in business. The tax breaks help with that.
Because nobody in the “non-profit” sector makes hundreds of thousands, or millions, in compensation.
/sarc
cs89 on November 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Yes everyone, you need to change your views to match whatever majority opinion may or may not be present. Remember: Big Brother wants you to be happy in your work.
See here, Ogabe got 52% of the vote which means you all better be fans of his.
Bishop on November 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Do you really think Christmas or Chanukah will distract us from that sleazebag’s attempts to rifle something through? No way — this jerk wanted attention and he’s got it, and it’s not going to fade because of a little tinsel and eggnog.
D2Boston on November 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Why Government Can’t Run a Business
The Obama administration is bent on becoming a major player in — if not taking over entirely — America’s health-care, automobile and banking industries. Before that happens, it might be a good idea to look at the government’s track record in running economic enterprises. It is terrible.
In 1913, for instance, thinking it was being overcharged by the steel companies for armor plate for warships, the federal government decided to build its own plant. It estimated that a plant with a 10,000-ton annual capacity could produce armor plate for only 70% of what the steel companies charged.
When the plant was finally finished, however — three years after World War I had ended — it was millions over budget and able to produce armor plate only at twice what the steel companies charged. It produced one batch and then shut down, never to reopen.
Or take Medicare. Other than the source of its premiums, Medicare is no different, economically, than a regular health-insurance company. But unlike, say, UnitedHealthcare, it is a bureaucracy-beclotted nightmare, riven with waste and fraud. Last year the Government Accountability Office estimated that no less than one-third of all Medicare disbursements for durable medical equipment, such as wheelchairs and hospital beds, were improper or fraudulent. Medicare was so lax in its oversight that it was approving orthopedic shoes for amputees.
These examples are not aberrations; they are typical of how governments run enterprises. There are a number of reasons why this is inherently so. Among them are:
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MB4 on November 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Still laughing. Nail, meet hammer.
TXUS on November 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM
PLEASE! The insurance companies are no cash cow and they are paying for medicare. It is a mess, needs reform but not the kind where I pay for you.
ORconservative on November 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM
No, I think the industry practices of purging have definitely reached the tipping point.
And anyone or any candidate who supports that?
I’m definitely not going to support.
There are limits.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Why? We’re not running.
I’ll do everything possible to scuttle this idiotic idea and if it passes, do everything possible to get it repealed.
Because it sucks.
What do I care whether some rigged poll says people want it or like it?
If 99% of the American people wanted to chow down on a crap sandwich, it doesn’t mean that I’m going to take a bite voluntarily.
NoDonkey on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM
For a plan that starts taxing people immediately, but doesn’t begin “helping” people for 5 years? Yes, we better get this done NOW! People are dying while we dither! Oh, wait, that last part is the war in Afghanistan.
mwdiver on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I think reforms are needed, but nothing like these idiots are proposing. Medicare and Medicaid also need to be fixed, conflated or something… And as far as executive pay goes, let the market drive that — NOT the Congress or the President.
D2Boston on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Coal in everyone’s stockings this year.
Merry Christmas!
Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Steve Z on November 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM
What you think doesn’t matter. Not when it contradicts reality. If you don’t think non-profits pay their executives a lot, then you either aren’t paying attention, or are extremely naive.
What you claim happened, is illegal. If you can actually prove that this really happened, and isn’t just another one of your liberal myths that you choose to believe, then please do so.
Step one: Make up a myth.
Step two: Declare that anyone who disagrees with supports what happened in the myth.
Step three: Declare yourself superior to those targeted by steps one and two.
How very liberal of you.
And to think, you keep crying about how other people are mean to you, and how we should try and stay civil to each other.
Like all liberals, you Anne, are an incurable hypocrite.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Absolutely. The fact that Santa Claus is a stinking cheap skate this year will be a very, very strong reminder of Pookie.
jimmy2shoes on November 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Why yes he did, along with many others. Too bad AnninCa can’t read.
Mythbuster: Health Insurance One of Least Profitable Industries
Knucklehead on November 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Yeah? Then why don’t you aim your anger and frustration at government. Government created all the conditions and regulations that put us where we are now. Having the government dictate even more is suicide.
Tell the government to impose limits on itself. I don’t want the government running my life just because you want free everything.
darwin on November 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM
I pesonally can tell you that I will NOT vote for any candidate who doesn’t recognize the problems going on in the healthcare industry.
If that offends pure Reagonites, too bad.
They will either acknowledge this or lose my own vote.
I’m not into the current Dem solution. It’s too radical.
But I’m also absolutely against denial.
If people fill out an application, pay the premium, then the company that boots them off due to some nutty reason?
I am totally disgusted with that form of capitalism.
Totally.
AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Which is why private is always better than public. They care about their press. Govt on the other hand controls the press.
MarkTheGreat on November 3, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Not to worry, Reid and Pelosi have already assured us several times that they have the votes…
right2bright on November 3, 2009 at 12:53 PM
And if the government can set pay limits for HC execs, they can do it for anyone and everyone.
Bishop on November 3, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Have you seen what the head of Fannie Mae makes? Do you remember the bonuses given to Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick. Are you just opposed to big compensation in the insurance industry(private sector)?
a capella on November 3, 2009 at 12:54 PM
As I said before … you are dangerously naive.
darwin on November 3, 2009 at 12:54 PM
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