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GOP running scared over primaries?

posted at 11:36 am on November 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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We’ve seen an inordinate amount of handwringing over the campaign of Douglas Hoffman in NY-23’s special election today, as some in the party have openly wondered whether conservatives will split into a third party for the 2010 general elections.  That consists entirely of empty speculation, as no one has even tried that — and the Hoffman example doesn’t apply as a precedent anyway.  Now, Politico reports that the hysteria in the GOP over conservatism has now made them scared of a perfectly normal and legitimate intraparty mechanism — the primary.  Either the GOP needs to get some testicular fortitude or Politico needs to dial down the hyperbole:

In what could be a nightmare scenario for Republican Party officials, conservative activists are gearing up to challenge leading GOP candidates in more than a dozen key House and Senate races in 2010.

Conservatives and tea party activists had already set their sights on some of the GOP’s top Senate recruits — a list that includes Gov. Charlie Crist in Florida, former Rep. Rob Simmons in Connecticut and Rep. Mark Kirk in Illinois, among others.

But their success in Tuesday’s upstate New York special election, where grass-roots efforts pushed GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava to drop out of the race and helped Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman surge into the lead on the eve of Election Day, has generated more money and enthusiasm than organizers ever imagined.

Activists predict a wave that could roll from California to Kentucky to New Hampshire and that could leave even some GOP incumbents — Utah Sen. Bob Bennett is one — facing unexpectedly fierce challenges from their right flank.

“I would say it’s the tip of the spear,” said Dick Armey, the former GOP House majority leader who now serves as chairman of FreedomWorks, an organization that has been closely aligned with the tea party movement. “We are the biggest source of energy in American politics today.”

“What you’re going to see,” said Armey, “is moderates and conservatives across the country in primaries.”

Oh, my goodness, it’s such an unprecedented “nightmare”!  Why, who would have guessed that more than one candidate might run in primaries?  That’s so wild, one has to dig far back into the memory banks to remember that  the GOP holds a primary in every normal election cycle for every political race.

Even the examples Politico uses are entirely laughable.  Charlie Crist, Rob Simmons, and Mark Kirk aren’t incumbents.  Crist and Kirk will run for open seats, while Simmons will try to pick off Chris Dodd.  Furthermore, Simmons is actually a conservative candidate; the other person running in that seat is Linda McMahon, wife of the wrestling impressario Vince McMahon, who’s also a conservative.  It may be one thing to mount a primary challenge against a well-established incumbent, but in races for open seats, it would be very strange not to have multiple candidates.  And Rubio, at least, has already said that he will support the winner of the primary in Florida.

Meanwhile, the Hoffman precedent is nothing of the sort.  The Conservative Party in New York is not a “third party” of the sort envisioned by Politico or hysterical Republicans.  They routinely endorse Republicans for office, much more often than they run their own candidate.  The reason Hoffman had to run on the CP ticket was because the special election didn’t allow for a primary, and the county GOP leaders didn’t have the sense to pick someone who didn’t win the Margaret Sanger Award, didn’t back Card Check, and didn’t back the stimulus spending bill that has already proven itself a very expensive flop.

In fact, primaries exist precisely to settle these kinds of questions.  They’re healthy exercises that allow people within the particular state or Congressional district to determine which kind of candidate represents their best interests and those of the party, rather than have party bosses handpick candidates without any kind of accountability.  That used to be called American democracy rather than being cast as the basis for the next Stephen King novel by hysterics within the party or hyperbolic journalists looking for a story.


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The whole point of having a political party is to rally around the best candidate available for the office. You find the best candidate by having a primary. Coronations, like for Dede S, do a very poor job of selecting good candidates…

18-1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Forget the pundits and use your dollars as leverage. Once the RNCC realizes money is going directly to candidates instead of into their coffers, they’ll be more willing to listen. It’s the only way. They won’t be convinced by argument.

a capella on November 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM

+1,000!

..here’s a better plan: print up a bunch of those intolerably stupid Scuzzy-Fava-Beans pics of the stupid bitch giving that pathetic speech in front of the Hoffman headquarters with her two idiot rent-s-supporters holding up those crappy hand-lettered signs in front of the sea of red..

..and stuff one one into the return envelope of all those dumb-assed RNC questionnaire/solicitation letters.

VoyskaPVO on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

primary victories by Palin-drone types will turn off exurban moderates who have gay neighbors and whose friend had an abortion Sophomore year.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

GWB was a social conservative and just look what happpened:

Abortion was quickly outlawed and women were forced into back alley’s with coat hangers…

Gay people everywhere were gathered and burned at the stake…

right?

thevastlane on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

The last time I checked, this was still the United States of America and anyone could run for office…

D2Boston on November 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

GOP running scared over primaries?

Nah. Politico running his mouth off over conservative victories.

Tennman on November 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Is it just me or did the entire leadership of the Republican party just give up, put on thongs and hose and start to cry about how they can’t win unless they give up their principles and become the French maid “bottom” slaves who do whatever their Dhimmicrat “top” masters beat into them with a press release? I have never seen a bigger bunch of buffoons and cowards in my entire life.

Is this the kind of leadership that brought the Cold War to its climax and caused the collapse of Communism under its own weight of lethargy, incompetence, and drunken thuggery?

A bigger bunch of pantywaist idiots, you’ll wait a long time to see again.

Subsunk

Subsunk on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Rob Simmons in CT is a good guy. He is best hope of getting rid of Dodd.

reppac122 on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

GWB was a social conservative and just look what happpened:

Abortion was quickly outlawed and women were forced into back alley’s with coat hangers…

Gay people everywhere were gathered and burned at the stake…

right?

thevastlane on November 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

No, actually he screwed up the fiscal conservative agenda and his polling numbers went in the toilet, even among “social cons”.

thevastlane on November 3, 2009 at 12:39 PM

The GOP leadership (in name only) should be running scared and they had better pay attention or they will be out of a job. They are a disgrace. There is a platform for the Republican Party and if you are a candidate and cannot adhere to at least 2/3 of that platform, why on earth should a REAL Republican (i.e. conservative) support you?

Sporty1946 on November 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I totally understandwhy Dems want to conflate the terms “Republican” and “conservative”: Bush defined Republicanism for eight years. People currently hate Republicans. As long as most people believe that Republican=conservative, Dems can tar conservatives with the same brush. Unfortunately, although Bush was definitely a hawk, he was no conservative. If conservatives publicly revolutionize the GOP, the tired “Bush sucks” attacks will no longer resonate, and Dems don’t want to lose that weapon.

Palin knows what she is doing here: only by being very public with her criticism of Republicans will a majority of people believe that she is a different sort of Republican than Bush, which will be a necessary prerequisite to any GOPer’s future electoral success.

alwaysfiredup on November 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Common. Politico is so deeply immersed in the Democratic Party’s machinery. Local incumbents are normally granted a total pass during election primaries.

What’s wrong with primaries? Isn’t it the voice of the people which should prevail? If the people don’t like the way the incumbent is performing or behaving, they have the right to REPLACE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

So, Politico’s story and theory IS IDIOCY OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.

TheAlamos on November 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

In fact, primaries exist precisely to settle these kinds of questions. They’re healthy exercises that allow people within the particular state or Congressional district to determine which kind of candidate represents their best interests and those of the party, rather than have party bosses handpick candidates without any kind of accountability.

Excellent point, have the open primaries of NY, NJ, and Connecticut been closed? Time to take a second look at the scheduling of the 2012 primaries and their open/closed status. What is/has happened with the 2012 primaries and when and how will this be resolved?

Angry Dumbo on November 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

“…As long as most people believe that Republican=conservative…”

And Democrat=Men Who Stare At Goats

IntheNet on November 3, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Perhaps it’s Republicans getting sick of the Democrats trotting out some RINO that supports their legislation and giving them cover they don’t deserve. Now that Olympia Snowe isn’t Queen for a Day any more, do we need any more proof that, if a Republican wins a seat they ought to at least be a republican!!!!

Coming from Florida, many of us were disappointed when Crist said he was going to run and then, being governor, getting to appoint his former campaign manager to hold the seat. I can assure you that, barring some unforeseen disaster, I’ll be voting for Rubio in the primary. I don’t believe Meeks can win a statewide election, especially with Obama’s coat-tails being as short as they are. Meeks is the one that saddled FLorida with a constitutional amendment on class size that has our finances tied up in knots. Luckily, the economy is helping us, in that regard, by forcing citizens to move out and others to not come, so class sizes are coming down because of that. I’m sure it will be an issue anyway.

bflat879 on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

primary victories by Palin-drone types will turn off exurban moderates who have gay neighbors and whose friend had an abortion Sophomore year.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

dream on idiot

bill30097 on November 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM

But that’s what I think is the problem with the GOP. When I saw McCain taking advice from Schmidt and suspending his campaign, I couldn’t believe the incompetence factor.

AnninCA on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

The Left has a whole system designed to produce politicians and political activists. The Republicans have a mix of people like McCain who want office as a status symbol and people pissed off at the government enough to run for office.

This generally means Republican politicians are less politically savvy then their Democrat opponents – just look at Clinton vs Newt back in the 90s.

18-1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:54 PM

On the other hand, the successful Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign out social issues that the center.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Will this talking point never die? Bush Cheney were not running on social issues. The Supreme Court of Massachusetts injected social issues into the campaign. Not Bush Cheney. The resulting fallout without a doubt benefitted them, but their campaign was not one of social issues.

And Republicans running on “fiscal restraint” is a little tougher given the gallons of red ink they themselves spilled for eight years — and that pesky little recession they gave us.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

If only the electorate acted that way. The president gets credit for a good economy and the blame for the bad. It doesn’t really matter who is on office. Clinton got credit for the economy even though he had nothing to do with it. The policies that promoted growth came from a Republican lead congress and Ben Bernanke. Clinton got the credit though, and Obama gets the blame…

Besides, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter (as Dick Cheney thoughtfully reminds us).

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

The reason Regans defecit were deffirent from Obama’s are that Reagan did not triple the defecit for political patronage. The dollar was not being challenged as the reserve currency. More of the debt was owned by Americans. Military spending is inherently “stimulative,” at the end of the day you have a tank, a plane, a boat, something that had to be taken from raw materials and fashioned into its current state, that employed thousnads of people across the country. And Reagan had, Paul Volcker.

Theworldisnotenough on November 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM

primary victories by Palin-drone types will turn off exurban moderates who have gay neighbors and whose friend had an abortion Sophomore year.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I am impressed here. The, how should I put this, gall perhaps, of a full fledged, koolaide drinking, Obamunist using the term “Palin-drone” is just amazing. You really should demand better talking points from Axelrod – the man is obviously phoning it in now.

18-1 on November 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM

“Republican Party Officials” a/k/a “RINOS”

Let them be worried………very very worried.

And who knows maybe when that audio or video of Barack praising Mao or Stalin shows up we’ll have more people convinced. You just know it’s got to be out there.

Heck, there might be video of GOP OFFICIALS saying the same thing after Tuesday night.

:-)

PappyD61 on November 3, 2009 at 1:06 PM

LOLZ…the country club Republicans are mortified that the caddies are coming in for lunch!

Can we please have more pics of Rubio? MmmmMmmmMmmm

SouthernGent on November 3, 2009 at 1:08 PM

All this RINO hunting reminds me of those old Turok video games.

abobo on November 3, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Is it racist to make those Indian wah wah wah sounds when talking with my friends about all liberal/rino scalps were going to get?

abobo on November 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM

In what could be a nightmare scenario for Republican Party officials, conservative activists are gearing up to challenge leading GOP candidates in more than a dozen key House and Senate races in 2010.

My, how far the mighty Republican Party “officials” and their RINO beltway buddies have fallen. In early 2005, we were talking about permanent Republican majorities. In 2006, those geniuses lost the House and the Senate due to outrageous sex scandals, wasteful government spending, and a lack of good conservative leadership. In 2008, they helped nominate Captain Maverick to provide a “moderate” balance to John McCain on the theory that he’d provide “mavericky” and “moderate” leadership. He drove the Party into the ground so badly that, four years after talking about permanent Republican majorities, we have so few seats in the Senate that we can’t filibuster!

These GOP insiders have failed the party. It’s time for them to go and for Conservatives to reassert themselves as the rightful intellectual and political leaders of this party. If they fail to do so, they can face the political consequences. See, e.g., Dede Scozzafava.

Outlander on November 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM

oops… make that one sentence, “In 2008, they helped nominate Captain Maverick to provide a ‘moderate’ balance to Obama.”

Outlander on November 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The problem is taking Politico seriously, as if they were a real news outlet instead one of several Democratic Party propaganda organs.

Adjoran on November 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM

And Republicans running on “fiscal restraint” is a little tougher given the gallons of red ink they themselves spilled for eight years — and that pesky little recession they gave us.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

tsk tsk tsk. Let’s be honest here. 6 years. And I along with many, were as angry as anyone over their spending. The last 2 years of Bush’s presidency, you can blame the spending on Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Dodd, Schumer, et al. And when they really got their hands on the controls, look where they’re taking us. And the best part is…they lie consistently.

So keep defending them, without scoffing, when we ALL know what they’re doing is wrong, and ultimately going to bankrupt this country. It just goes to show me, so many are tied to this corrupt party, and that’s where their patriotism, and loyalty are…because it sure as hell isn’t for the best interest of the country. It’s an every man for himself mentality. If one has to sell his soul to Pelosi, to get the freebies they offer, one would do so.

Well not me! I’d rather die in a ditch alone, than go on any government health care, or welfare program.

capejasmine on November 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Foley is also running.

Rocks on November 3, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I like Foley, but I have no idea where he stands on specific issues. He’s running some tough commercials against Dodd here in CT but I don’t who he is other than the former ambassador to Ireland and a rich businessman.

Peter Schiff on the other hand is a guy who not only predicted the economic collpase years before it happened but nailed exactly what the instigators would be and warned of the even more dangerous government response which is happening now. He is the strongest fiscal conservative in this race with a full understanding of Austrian economics as opposed to the all the Keynesians which have infested Washington during both the Bush and Obama years. I have no idea what his social policies are but I think I may throw my support over to him.

Daemonocracy on November 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Furthermore, Simmons is actually a conservative candidate; the other person running in that seat is Linda McMahon, wife of the wrestling impressario Vince McMahon, who’s also a conservative.

Really?

Linda McMahon donated to more Dems than Republicans. Pinch and Rahm love her.

Simmons is another career politician and his fiscal RINO favored by the beltway hack GOP. “The public option should be on the table … a more simple and straightforward carbon tax … don’t drill, baby, don’t drill.”

If you’re looking for fiscal sanity and small gov’t, support (or at least acknowledge) Peter Schiff.

Rae on November 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

okay so riddle me this RNC, if you are so gung ho to EXPAND your party with NEW EXCITING DEMOGRAPHICS! why arent you supporting the attractive Latino Rubio over the old white connected guy?

hmmmmm?

just sayin’

ps dont tell hubby I called Rubio attractive, but ya know he IS! Not that I would vote on that mind you not CONSCIOUSLY anyway lol, but I DID tel all my FL friends and family to support him!

ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

I like Schiff, he does not play nicely with others ie he will not talk the company line

he calls it like he sees it and it would be nice to have a pessimist on economic issues to balance out the lib Pollyannas!

ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Rubio is so very gorgeous.

ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Agreed!

Rae on November 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Rae on November 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

ginaswo on November 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Hey Hey, fellow Schiff supporters.

Daemonocracy on November 3, 2009 at 2:27 PM

My employer wisely prevents me from accessing Politico on our servers. Good taste on their part — it is a pathetic rag of a website, as all liberal sites are.

Jaibones on November 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM

First thing is to close all GOP primaries.

SirGawain on November 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Aye indeed, Sir Gawain. If so-called “independents” get to pick our nominees, we’ll keep getting McCain duds.

evergreen on November 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Now Ed, you know the important thing to Politico is to find something that supports the favored GOP Civil War storyline.

Even if you have to make it up.

Kind of like Joe Biden in a debate.

tom on November 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM

And Republicans running on “fiscal restraint” is a little tougher given the gallons of red ink they themselves spilled for eight years — and that pesky little recession they gave us.

Bleeds Blue on November 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM

tsk tsk tsk. Let’s be honest here. 6 years. And I along with many, were as angry as anyone over their spending. The last 2 years of Bush’s presidency, you can blame the spending on Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Dodd, Schumer, et al. And when they really got their hands on the controls, look where they’re taking us. And the best part is…they lie consistently.
- – - – - – - – (sorry, could not get the quote thingie to work right here)

Actually, it was only FOUR years that the Rs had total control of the White House and Congress. Remember, thanks to Jumping Jim Jeffords in 2001, when he jumped over to the Dems, that kept that loser Daschle in charge of the Senate until he got his ass handed to him in his election by Thune in 2002.

So the Dems are 50% responsible for the Bush economy.

They had control of at least one house of Congress 4 of the 8 years that Bush was in the White House. And remember Bush hardly ever vetoed anything until after 2006. He had to put up with bloated budgets to get the yellow bellied Dems in Congress to fully fund the Defense efforts after 9/11. It was disgusting.

karenhasfreedom on November 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM

It’s quite amusing to see the same party elders who squandered away the House, the Senate and 1600 Penn. Ave wringing their hands that they may not get to annoint the people who will lead the GOP out of the wilderness.

These clowns are deck hands on the Titanic and they are going overboard.

If I were them, I would be more concerned about staying away from tar, feathers, ropes and trees than retaining power and influence.

Their conventional wisdom (i.e. that GOP candidates need to be like Democrats to win) has not exactly been a winning strategy – at least not for the GOP.

I would rather have a liberal Democrat run our country than be chronically betrayed (15 short months ago GWB was clamoring for amnesty for illegal aliens, in case anyone has forgotten) by the party with which I have identifed for the last 35 years.

When the GOP loses people like me, who have been more than forgiving over the last 15 years while it has repeatedly bartered away core beliefs and principles in unsuccessful attempts to retain power, it is lost.

I will start by voting against my state’s 2 RINO Senators (Alexander and Corker) whenever I get the chance.

molonlabe28 on November 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Idiot, damn GOP needs to realize that it is CONSERVATIVES who put them in office or take them out of it. Ahhhh!! They are too stupid. Where do we find these lawyers?

ultracon on November 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Rubio is a stronger conservative than Martinez and a much better choice than Gov. Charlie. Crist hasn’t really done anything here as Gov. other than position himself to run for the senate.
I’m voting Rubio.
My Rep is John Mica and he’s pretty darn good. But ole’ Grayson in the next county over has got to go!

conservativecaveman on November 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM

What the hell is wrong with you, Ed? You must fall in line with the party elders and march in lock step with the elites. They know perfectly well how to lose without your throwing some conservative monkey wrench into their failure machine. Damn, boy, someone would think you were out to win an election or two.

SKYFOX on November 3, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Likely POLITICO headline tomorrow:

“Corzine Vote Totals Not As Fat As Christie’s – Signals Tough Times Ahead for the GOP, a Party At War With Itself”

Lourdes on November 3, 2009 at 7:34 PM

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