In essence, we dodged a bullet in McCain (a guaranteed slide to socialism) by jumping onto the interstate (where we at least can try to dodge the traffic). That’s a hindsight observation, though. Just like Pyrrhus, we had to fight (vote for McCain), but now that we’ve been forced to retreat and regroup, we can bolster our strengths and win.

Not every victory is a win, and not every defeat is a loss. Republicans win when they’re conservative. They lose when they stop being conservatives.

You make a good point. One of the things I always liked about Coburn is his insistence that he won’t become a career politician, and that he would not run beyond 2 terms. Once they become career politicians, I agree, they become all about the power, not about the service.

mbs on November 3, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Coburn and Inhofe are my Senators too. And I too have liked Coburn’s stand on Term Limits. We need to start electing like-minded individuals. If they aren’t for term limits they shouldn’t count on our vote. Until we get a majority of Congress people taking office on the basis of term limits, it will never happen. The insiders will never give their power away.

Anybody who listens to him for any length of time and concludes anything else is a fool or an anti-American statist.

Nobody, not Rush, not Hannity, not Levin, not Laura says it as clearly as he does. Maybe Palin or some other politician can get there, but they haven’t yet. Politicians are bound by their parties, no matter how common-sensical they are.

And don’t give me that clown crap about Beck either. He is plenty smart. Much smarter than the obsequious “gays” and “progressives” who set aside their “inclusiveness” to hate him with a blind fury no conservative could ever generate. Why is that, do ya think?

Humor IS the way to convince people. That’s exactly why they hate him.

I reject the premise that Hoffman and like minded are extremists. We represent the moderate middle. Tim McVeigh is the extremist, and John McCain and Lindsey Graham are Liberals. It’s time for the GOP to return to the true center, and we’re going to work very hard to make that happen.

davecatbone on November 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Recent polling did show that 40% of Americans identify as conservative.

I don’t think McCain and Graham are Liberals…. but I do think they are prefect examples of compromising common sense to what they can get through the liberals in congress.

These guys have been in Washington too long.

Amnesty. That is where McCain goes liberal. But really I think it is more a lack of will and imagination. Amnesty was done by Reagan but it failed miserably. Not because Reagan’s model was flawed. But because of enforcement of the plan.

The plan was to keep illegals out from 1984 forward. That is why Amnesty as proposed by McCain can’t be supported.

Border patrol first. Then we deal with who is here and their status. We should not even talk about amnesty until we have control of our borders!

That isn’t liberal or conservative that is common sense.

That is what is wrong with McCain and Graham.

I like average common sense people. I believe the harder the decision the more common sense applied the better.

Many Republicans have made too many comprises with their own conscience. They buy votes to compete with Dems who buy votes. And here we are.

This is a positive thing.

Actually THIS is change I can believe in.

an added beefit of getting rid of the lawyers bills might go from 1990pages to I don’t know ten.

I think we should have a consitutional amendment that all bills passed by congress must be no longer than 20 one sided double spaced pages using a font of 12. that way the majority of Americans and Congress could read and understand the laws being voted on.

bills of 1990 pages serve only the power brokers as they allow corruption to flourish and liberties to recede

i like some of them too doesn’t mean I would vote for them again. they have had their time on stage. they All need to exit and allow new blood, new ideas in. By voting in people we like over and over again we allow them to gain addtional power over us.

unseen on November 3, 2009 at 9:25 AM

You make a good point. One of the things I always liked about Coburn is his insistence that he won’t become a career politician, and that he would not run beyond 2 terms. Once they become career politicians, I agree, they become all about the power, not about the service.

I do know there are some honest lawyers but they are not in politics.

Career politicians, like Pelosi,Franks, etc. who never had an honest job in their life and making decisions about ours,I for one will never again vote for any candidate who is a lawyer or professional politician, give me a plumber,carpenter,bookeeper just an honest hardworking person who loves this country. God Bless our Military and keep them safe

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/11/quit-making-things-up-joe-biden.html

John McCain and Lindsey Graham are Liberals

Oh, goodness. That’s not how I see either of them. But, labeling is all about personal perspective.

mbs on November 3, 2009 at 9:05 AM

i like some of them too doesn’t mean I would vote for them again. they have had their time on stage. they All need to exit and allow new blood, new ideas in. By voting in people we like over and over again we allow them to gain addtional power over us.

Even the Losertarians can’t upset the conservative tidal wave that’s coming in the next 1 & 3 years.

I eagerly await the year when the people come out and vote all 435 idiots in Washington out on their butts. I could care less about party. The dems and/or GOp is not what is killing this country slowly, it is the 98% reelection rate of Congress. Outlaw gerrymandering, expand the house from 435 to at least 1400, impose term limits. If the government is too big to be run by avg citizens then it is too big. You should not need a PHD nor a law degree from Havard to read and understand the US consitution.

Throw the bums out

unseen on November 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM

Hey, now, I like Coburn and Inhofe, my Oklahoma Senators. There are a few good ones, but yes, most of them need to go.

I have to admit, I’ve never paid much attention to primaries before, and did not get interested in politics until the last year or so. But you can bet I’m never going to miss voting in a primary again. I have to believe there are many people like me out there, who are determined to get more involved in having a say as to who the Republican party nominee is in every race, local and national. All those people who moan about the fact that we never have a good choice in the general elections (yes, I am one of them) need to get involved in making sure we do have a good choice. I really think that will happen.

Throw the bums out

What I still don’t understand is how the GOP party there ended up recommending her.

We don’t need a Bull Moose candidate. We need a Reaganite candidate who cuts/kills/slashes government and spending and takes no cr@p on foreign relations.

JoeinTX on November 3, 2009 at 1:08 AM

I wouldn’t mind changing the GOP animal to moose :) Afterall, we’ve seen Photoshops of what it looks like. I likey it!

Today is the day where lower America will vote, intimidate others to vote, and call foul when we get our victory,

Today is the day where luckier and millionaires in America will get their connections going (if they haven’t done so already with regular folks) and wish for the best so they don’t get raped by the establishment.

I so wish I could go to the Capitol on Thursday. :(