Scozzafava endorses Democrat in NY-23

posted at 4:15 pm on November 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Doesn’t this prove the point conservatives had been making about Dede Scozzafava all along?

One day after she suspended her own campaign and declined to publicly endorse either of her opponents, Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava has formally announced her support for Democratic candidate Bill Owens. …

This isn’t a huge surprise. According to the Watertown Times, Scozzafava, who is angry about the indignities she suffered at the hands of Conservative nominee Doug Hoffman, was quietly encouraging her supporters yesterday to support Owens.

In addition, her labor leader husband, Ron McDougall, issued a late-night endorsement of Owens via a statement released by the AFL -CIO, which signaled the start of a labor wave moving from Scozzafava’s camp to Owens’ side. This could prove critical when it comes to the GOTV effort.

Uh, sure, as if that 19% or so that backed Scozzafava in the race included a “labor wave”.  The union voters were not going to back the Republican in this race, outside of McDougall and a few of his buddies.  They’re already behind Owens, even with the Card Check-supporting Scozzafava in the race.  Why wouldn’t they have already wanted to give Nancy Pelosi another caucus vote?

There are two ways of looking at this.  Either Scozzafava doesn’t mind throwing Republicans under the bus for a little dog-in-the-manger revenge, or she’s a lot closer in policy to the Democrat than the conservative candidate.  Neither of those commends Scozzafava, nor the county party leaders who handpicked her to replace John McHugh.  In fact, it makes it clear that conservatives were right all along to point out Scozzafava’s unsuitability for the endorsement — and should result in replacing the GOP bosses in NY-23 who bungled it.


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Another of your simplistic trollisms. You are darn good at em. Stay proud .

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Thanks! And you keep working on that freeedummm!!

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Aww, thanks! Remember, freedom isn’t free!

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM

That’s right, Simpleton. While you sit around in your own sh*tstained filth, there are men and women in harm’s way protecting your freedom to be stupid. Show some respect, you wetend.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Approved by Newt, Mitt, David Frum, David Brooks, Chrissy Buckley and of course

ACORN.

Mr. Joe on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Newt, are you going to speak out about this?

Mr. Joe on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Newt’s final failure. To endorse a liberal because she has an (R) next to her name is one thing, to endorse a candidate who then openly supports the other side is an epic fail. She was an infiltrator the entire time. Just like Bloomberg claimed to be a Giuliani acolyte to get elected and then later turned hard left. Only the Republican establishment is dumb enough to fall for this nonsense. The libs would smoke out someone from the other side doing the same thing far sooner.

echosyst on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Aww, thanks! Remember, freedom isn’t free!

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM

And neither is Obama’s help, you have to spend big money to have him take care of you. Otherwise he is just going to rob you like any other urban street criminal. He doesn’t care you voted for him, he only cares if you’ve paid him off. What have most people gotten for voting for him? A bill. LOL, take that to the bank!

ray on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

That’s right, Simpleton. While you sit around in your own sh*tstained filth, there are men and women in harm’s way protecting your freedom to be stupid. Show some respect, you wetend.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Most liberals live in a total fantasy.

the_nile on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Shrillary was just another dummycrat going to roost in a sea of dummycrats. The clintonistas chose NY on a calculated agenda.

Mangy Scot on November 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM

And that’s a big ass nest, Mangy. :)

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Thanks! And you keep working on that freeedummm!!

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

You truly cannot help your self. Seek help. I sense a mental impairment.

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Newt, are you going to speak out about this?

Mr. Joe on November 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Newtered Gangreneich is getting hammered on the comments on his blog.

progressoverpeace on November 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Yep.

29Victor on November 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM

We knew it all along. RINO.

Ricohoc on November 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Maybe the scud bomb and Michelle Obama could go on a national campaign against Twinkies now… Too soon?

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM

So should I change the NY-23 horse race question AGAIN? Still expect Hoffman to win easilyabout 2 hours ago from web
ppppolls
PublicPolicyPolling

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM

What’s the difference between a pig with lipstick and Scozzafava?
Nothing; They both smell like pork!

Cybergeezer on November 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Funny Simple does think things like health care can be free…friggin hilarious. What an idiot.

Even under the Dems plans costs will go up for many

Robert Goldberg:

The average yearly cost of insurance premiums under the Baucus bill will rise from about $1,900 to about $6,900 a year with about the same level of coverage. Given a choice of paying a $400 tax for not getting insurance or paying $5,000 more a year for care, who wouldn’t wait to buy coverage until after they get sick?

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM

In case your readers are wondering, Scozzafava’s departure from the race clearly helps Hoffman. In our last poll for the Club for Growth (the one over last weekend, which was the first to identify the Hoffman surge), the partisan composition of Scozzafava voters was: 63 percent Republican; 29 percent Democrat; 8 percent Independent. I think Hoffman would have won the race anyway, but now he is strongly favored.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM

In order to repay Scud, the left will have to cave to her demands. I heard that Scuzzy can be expected as a audience member of every Food Network show.

Rachel Ray, watch out!!!

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM

So she throws her first vote for the democrat…which is what she would have been doing in the house of reps.

Good riddance…she’ll have to switch her party registration now…she’s done as an assemblywoman!

aigle on November 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM

The bottom is falling out from under Florida’s once hugely popular governor.

A new Miami Herald/St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9 poll finds only 42 percent of likely Florida voters think Charlie Crist is doing a good or excellent job as governor, by far the worst approval rating of Crist’s 34 months in office.

As Crist seeks a promotion to the U.S. Senate, the race to succeed him is shaping up to be one of the closest the state has seen in decades. Democrat Alex Sink is statistically tied with Republican Bill McCollum, 38 to 37 percent.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM

she’s done as an assemblywoman!

aigle on November 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Person. You right wingers kill me.

/

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Seems there’s plenty of like sentiment, but let me just say for the record:

“How’s that loyalty to the party working out now, Newt?”

Machete_Bug on November 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Another reason I cannot send money to the party. This moronic candidate got almost 1 million dollars from the Republican coffers. We now know she was a Democrat from the start.

echosyst on November 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

-58% of Republicans think that Scozzafava’s a liberal and that was obviously before her endorsement today.

-The Rush Limbaugh effect- Hoffman has a 79 point lead with Rush listeners while Owens has a 6 point lead with people who don’t listen to the show.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

I don’t blame Ms. Scozzafava for being angry about how things turned out. She must have felt that she had played by the rules in winning the nomination through the interview process and was then rejected by her team. However, playing by the rules does not mean that you can necessarily count on the loyalty of individual voters. She was notably more moderate than the overall makeup of the GOP voters in that district or nationally. Pulling out seemed to be an act of putting the party’s long term interests ahead of her own. Tossing her nomination to Owens indicates she really has no party loyalty and proves her detractors were right to oppose her in the race. As a moderate Republican, I’m saddened by her decision. Moderates are frankly 2nd class citizens in this party, but it’s our team and the current state of the nation is too shaky to let the Democrats have even one more vote. Fiscal conservativism and National Security are going to outweigh Moderate vs. Conservative social policies for quite some time to come. She blew it.

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

So you’re saying that if Dede is gone, Hoffman wins by 15%? Really?

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY, lobbied Scozzafava to endorse Owens, according to the Watertown Daily News, quoting Schumer’s spokesman.

HT: Washington Examiner

Wethal on November 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Anyone else ready to pledge to her opponent in the Assembly race next year?

Red Cloud on November 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM

That stupid campaign headquarters stunt made her look like an jackass, not anything Hoffman did. She should put the blame where it belongs.

Speedwagon82 on November 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Political parties must stand for something. When Republicans were in the wilderness in the late 1970s, Ronald Reagan knew that the doctrine of “blurring the lines” between parties was not an appropriate way to win elections. Unfortunately, the Republican Party today has decided to choose a candidate who more than blurs the lines, and there is no real difference between the Democrat and the Republican in this race.

Palin hit the nail on the head

running circles around the elite GOP who think they can put up TPAW to coop Palin’s message since he is a blank slate
She will own him

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Wethal on November 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM

So what else would they have lobbied for from her…?

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:06 PM

That stupid campaign headquarters stunt made her look like an jackass, not anything Hoffman did. She should put the blame where it belongs.

Speedwagon82 on November 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM

She’s a true liberal. Blames others for her failures.

the_nile on November 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM

So you’re saying that if Dede is gone, Hoffman wins by 15%? Really?

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Im not saying the PPP poll just released is saying it. It is a democratic poll btw.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM

As a moderate Republican, I’m saddened by her decision. Moderates are frankly 2nd class citizens in this party, but it’s our team and the current state of the nation is too shaky to let the Democrats have even one more vote. Fiscal conservativism and National Security are going to outweigh Moderate vs. Conservative social policies for quite some time to come. She blew it.

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

What you mean is that you are pro-baby killing. That double speak don’t fly.

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Let me be clear that I have no real sympathy for Dede. I’m pleased that she’s making life difficult for the carpetbagger Conservative, and I’m vaguely sympathetic for someone who’s punched the clock year in and year out and didn’t get the promotion she was waiting for (as I would be for a mechanic who didn’t get promoted to manager or any similar situation). But I’m mostly just happy to see Dede’s bitterness at being screwed work itself out publicly in a way that may hurt the Republican Party. I hope she’s the start of a trend.

Bleeds Blue on November 1, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Nice sentiment about “clock punching” and “promotion”. And the bad, bad “people” got in the way and ruined it for poor, poor her.

That’s exactly the attitude neither party needs. District Representative is a trust, not a prize to be doled out by party flacks. It’s not a “similar situation” at all, don’t you get it? I get the impression you could do without the whole “campaigning” and “voting” thing, since it gets in the way of a “promotion”.

JeffWeimer on November 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM

We hear this all time — conservatives in the GOP have to play nice with the moderates.

We never hear the other, that moderates should play nice with conservatives. Why is that? Consider the facts:

In Michigan’s 7th Congressional District, conservative Tim Walberg challenged the very liberal Joe Schwartz in the 2006 Republican Primary and won. Walberg went on to win the general election.

In 2008, Schwartz endorsed Democrat Mark Schauer and Shauer used that endorsement to squeak out a win in this +2 Republican District.

In Maryland 1, conservative physician and state senator Andy Harris ran in the Republican Primary against Wayne Gilchrist. Harris defeated Gilchrist only to see Gilchrist throw his support to Democrat Frank Kratovil, who won with 49.12% of the vote.

In Arizona 5, conservative David Schweikert won the Republican nomination, but then lost to liberal Democrat Harry Mitchell. Why? Schweikert’s primary opponent refused to help him and sat on his hands rather than help Schweikert pick up his opponent’s primary support.

In Alabama 2, Jay Love beat Harri Anne Smith in the Republican Primary and ran against Bobby Bright in an R +16 district. Smith endorsed the Democrat and Bright went on to win 50.23% of the vote.

In New York 23, the liberal Dede Scozzafava drops out and instead of supporting the guy the GOP crawls on bended knee to, she endorses the Democrat.

All the time we hear “conservatives can’t win the general” and “conservatives should play nice with moderates.” The record shows that the moderates cannot take losing and conservatives don’t win the general because the moderate GOP stabs them in the back.

Erick Erickson, RedState.

Wethal on November 1, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Well so much for all Obama’s under the table, back room efforts here. His plans are going down big time and Scozzafava ought to know his promises have an expiration date, mostly shorter than his delivery date.

Barry one-note is going to be a one term-er. And as this portents 2010, he’s going to be a half term-er.

Dusty on November 1, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Which race are you most interested in?
Sunday, November 1, 2009
More NY-23 mess

Man NY-23 is really a mess.

Here are some interesting facts from our unweighted numbers so far:

-In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

-58% of Republicans think that Scozzafava’s a liberal and that was obviously before her endorsement today.

-The Rush Limbaugh effect- Hoffman has a 79 point lead with Rush listeners while Owens has a 6 point lead with people who don’t listen to the show.

I am going to swap in a third version of our horse race question for remaining interviews today noting that Scozzafava has suspended her campaign and endorsed Owens. The Hoffman lead is wide enough that I feel comfortable releasing numbers later this evening although there will certainly be a lot of caveats- and we will certainly release tabs by when people were interviewed.
Posted by Tom Jensen at 3:42 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Shiockingly… there is nothing at newt.org about this.

mankai on November 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The vichy republicans got exposed.

the_nile on November 1, 2009 at 4:48 PM

QOTD.

Any party boss who backed this DIABLO can go to hell.

Every single person in the NRCC and the RNC should be reading from this site daily. Jesse knew the difference between positions which where of a political nature vs principles. He compromised on politics often, but never on principles.

I would give anything for our party to have men like him in it: ones who were unashamed of their principles and willing to stand firm in the face of public mockery by the Left because of what they believed.

Specter, Snowe, Collins, et.al. are the polar opposite of Jesse.

Oh, and one more thing.

In 33 years of public office, Jesse didn’t do a single thing that tarnished his reputation – not one scandal.

Compare and contrast with Jack Murtha…

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Jeffords/Scozzafava-D 2012

The “republican” was only skin deep but apparently the “bitter” goes all the way to the bone.

rihar on November 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM
So you’re saying that if Dede is gone, Hoffman wins by 15%? Really?

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

unseen’s having a ManlyRash moment…..and I like it!

Rovin on November 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM

It must be happy hour in obama’s ass…the trolls have left to regroup.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM

As a moderate Republican, I’m saddened by her decision. Moderates are frankly 2nd class citizens in this party, but it’s our team and the current state of the nation is too shaky to let the Democrats have even one more vote. Fiscal conservativism and National Security are going to outweigh Moderate vs. Conservative social policies for quite some time to come. She blew it.

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Could you give us a list of the top 10 things “moderate” Republicans believe in?

rplat on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Dede was always a peek-a-boo Republican. She’ll be forever branded with the scarlet “D” now…..no more hiding in the Republican flock. We’ll see shortly how many pieces of silver she felt her “virtue” is worth.

joe btfsplk on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Erick Erickson, RedState.

Wethal on November 1, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Because we don’t have a real opposition party anymore.

mankai on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

unseen’s having a ManlyRash moment…..and I like it!

Rovin on November 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I won’t believe Hoffman can win until he does.

It’s going to be a hard one for sure.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

CWforFreedom

simplesimon

Wow. Mirror images of idiocy. It’s fascinating to see them interact.

crr6 on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Shiockingly… there is nothing at newt.org about this.

mankai on November 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM

If you clicked on POP’s link you would see why. Newt is being brutalized.

fourdeucer on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

It must be happy hour in obama’s ass…the trolls have left to regroup.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM

orgy ball…

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Newt, are you going to speak out about this?

Mr. Joe

Scozzafava did the right thing in dropping out. I am, however, deeply dissapointed that she has chosen to back Owens over Hoffman.

http://newt.org/EditNewt/FeaturedBloggersDB/tabid/193/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4629/I-Am-Endorsing-Doug-Hoffman.aspx#Comments

Also, it looks like Newt’s going back and editing his prior posts, taking out some of his more supportive comments, and search doesn’t seem to be working for the keywords for the race.

Terry_Dyne on November 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM

If you clicked on POP’s link you would see why. Newt is being brutalized.

fourdeucer on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

He deserves it. Period.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Screw the dems, the liberal reps and the gop elite. We own this campaign. We will win this campaign and we will stop obamacare and cap and trade in its tracks come weds. Obama is catering, crist is catering, Corzine is cratering in one of the bluest states in the uniobn. Conservatives are rising, the knives are out. This is war people. Benidict arnolds will be out there the elitists will not go quietly into the night. buck up and fight

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Wow. Mirror images of idiocy. It’s fascinating to see them interact.

crr6 on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Oh no it didn’t!

crr6 just threw simplesimon under the Obama bus!

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

I can only imagine the headache this is causing Newt Gingrich. And that makes me happy. He whined about all us conservatives for sticking to conservatism (imagine that?) because the party is more important in his mind. So not only is Dede Scuzzbag a complete failure showing Newt’s lack of power and connection to the American people, but then Scuzzbag backs the democrat! So how was she going to be good for the party Newt? She would have switched parties out of ideology or sheer spite and either way hurt the GOP. Newt is either a buffoon or secretly doesn’t give a darn about the party. Maybe all Newt cares about is himself. He is not only irrelevant but also harmful to the party. So if he truly cares about the future of the GOP as he claims he should retire and leave the spotlight for good. You do love the GOP right Newt? I for one hope he goes far, far away and shuts the hell up.

chicagojedi on November 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

This proves the choice of a pink outfit the other week when standing in front of Hoffman’s office was dead on.

If she’d managed to get elected, she would have kept the (R) next to her name, waited until some vote was up, and declared that much as she hated the necessity, she’d have to choose her ‘conscience’ and switch parties so she could vote according to her ‘principles’.
She’d then be championed as a courageous and steadfast politician and given a cushy role in the Obama administration as a (R) who saw the light.

The plan all along I bet. WH pawprints are all over this. Pity it went south for them, eh, not.

Ozwitch on November 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Also, it looks like Newt’s going back and editing his prior posts, taking out some of his more supportive comments, and search doesn’t seem to be working for the keywords for the race.

Terry_Dyne on November 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM

He’s waiting on counsel from Pelosi and Hillary before going any farther.

mankai on November 1, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Fiscal conservativism and National Security are going to outweigh Moderate vs. Conservative social policies for quite some time to come. She blew it.

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Problem was that Dede was not a moderate or a conservative, she is a democrat. She thinks like a democrat, talks like a democrat, votes like a democrat and behaves like a democrat.

The only thing she did is sucker some Republicans into believing that she was a moderate.

The media would have you believe that is was Dede’s social issues that she disagreed with Republicans on, but that is not the truth.

There are actually some moderates out there that disagree on the social issues, but are strong fiscal conservatives. There people are truly moderates and that is okay.

Dede supported the stimulus. Dede was not even a fiscal conservative. In fact there was nothing in her record that shows her to be either fiscally or socially conservative.

There was absolutely nothing in Dede’s record that even showed her to be a moderate. Dede is a democrat.

kcarpenter on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Sorry I am late, NASCAR, NFL and everything…

(clears throat)

Ssssssssscoooooooozzzzzzzzzaaaaaaafffffffaaaaaavvvvvvaaaaaa…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

There are two ways of looking at this. Either Scozzafava doesn’t mind throwing Republicans under the bus for a little dog-in-the-manger revenge, or she’s a lot closer in policy to the Democrat than the conservative candidate.

Might have already been said, but “Both.”

cs89 on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

It must be happy hour in obama’s ass…the trolls have left to regroup.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM

They grabbed their scuba gear for a night dive.

Geochelone on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

The plan all along I bet. WH pawprints are all over this. Pity it went south for them, eh, not.

Ozwitch on November 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

The fact that the NRCC and RNC were so freakin’ oblivious to this possibility speaks volumes about the death of the GOP.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

They grabbed their scuba gear for a night dive.

Geochelone on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

*shudder*

Nuff said…

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

So much for supporting the party at any cost in order to beat the other party.

One down, dozens and dozens to go.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Which race are you most interested in?
Sunday, November 1, 2009
More NY-23 mess

Man NY-23 is really a mess.

Here are some interesting facts from our unweighted numbers so far:

-In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

-58% of Republicans think that Scozzafava’s a liberal and that was obviously before her endorsement today.

-The Rush Limbaugh effect- Hoffman has a 79 point lead with Rush listeners while Owens has a 6 point lead with people who don’t listen to the show.

I am going to swap in a third version of our horse race question for remaining interviews today noting that Scozzafava has suspended her campaign and endorsed Owens. The Hoffman lead is wide enough that I feel comfortable releasing numbers later this evening although there will certainly be a lot of caveats- and we will certainly release tabs by when people were interviewed.
Posted by Tom Jensen at 3:42 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM

–Something may be wrong with the PPP numbers. The prior two polls taken in the last three days showed Owens up by one. I’d want to understand why the two other polls showed such different results in the three way race.

Jimbo3 on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

So much for supporting the party at any cost in order to beat the other party.

One down, dozens and dozens to go.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Scuzzy just sat on the big tent.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

I won’t believe Hoffman can win until he does.

It’s going to be a hard one for sure.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

remind me not to get in any foxholes with you. Be a man, grow a pair. be confident. The dems use fear and uncertainity to drive wedges into people. screw them we will win. And if we don’t so what. We already won a great battle. this war is a long war with many battles to come. we will win some and lose some but at this time we are winning the hearts and minds of america. The liberal marxists are being exposed forced to reveal their true colers. The giant as awakened. Obama and his pals are doomed. I would be surprised if he is not impeached come 2011.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Wow. Mirror images of idiocy. It’s fascinating to see them interact.

crr6 on November 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Wow coming from the leader in empty rhetoric I will wear that proudly .Well except for the whole Simplesimon comparison.

Crr …. interestingly enough in the troll world that you and simple share you are siblings . Quite laughable trolls at that.

When you start sharing anything other than lame posts that do nothing other than show that you are a leftist sheep let me know.

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Scuzzy just sat shat on the big tent.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

FIFY

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 PM

FIFY

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Well, either way, it was crushed ;)

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

See @Jimbo3.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Show some respect, you wetend.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM

People with no self-respect cannot respect others.

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:20 PM

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 PM

She took a Newt all over it, and wiped it with a roll of Hope’N'Change.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Meanwhile smart power in action Russia practices Nuke attack on Poland.

William Amos on November 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Meanwhile smart power in action Russia practices Nuke attack on Poland.

William Amos on November 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM

And then there is that whole Iran thing

FAIL

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM

She took a Newt all over it, and wiped it with a roll of Hope’N’Change.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM

See, I thought she would have whipped out the Constitution, then wiped.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Ssssssssscoooooooozzzzzzzzzaaaaaaafffffffaaaaaavvvvvvaaaaaa…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Don’t forget the nice Chianti with them Faaaaava beans.

Rovin on November 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM

From PPP’s blog…

Here are some interesting facts from our unweighted numbers so far:

-In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

SouthernGent on November 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Hmmm….Looks like the only campaign donation ever made by
DeeDee Scozzafava was in the year 2000 to Rick Lazio’s campaign…

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=Scozzafava&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=&all=Y&sort=N&capcode=rzvmz&submit=Submit

centre on November 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM

And Mitt still hasn’t endorsed Hoffman. Amazing.

I guess he’s waiting until Wednesday so he can see who won.

Terry_Dyne on November 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM

The fat turd was never a Republican to begin with. After all that money the Republicans spent on her worthless campaign, she stabs them in the back like a typical RINO. What indignities did she suffer, that Hoffman exposed her for what she just proved herself to be? This woman has no class at all.

I really hope Hoffman wins now.

Daemonocracy on November 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM

FYI:

Poll Date Sample Hoffman (C) Owens (D) Scozzafava (R) Spread
Siena 10/27 – 10/29 700 LV 35 36 20 Owens +1
Daily Kos/R2000 10/26 – 10/28 600 LV 32 33 21 Owens +1
Minuteman/Neighborhood (R) 10/25 – 10/26 366 LV 34 29 14 Hoffman +5
CFG/Basswood Research (R) 10/24 – 10/25 300 LV 31 27 20 Hoffman +4
Daily Kos/R2000 10/19 – 10/21 600 LV 23 35 30 Owens +5

–FYI. When the results of two polls are the same, and the result from a third one is very different, you have to wonder about the third poll. I’m not saying that the PPP poll is wrong, but it’s the outlier.

Jimbo3 on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

By calling her a “moderate” you are being far too generous. She was endorsed by ACORN/AFP, for crying out loud. She was in favor of card-check – legislation I might add, some DEMOCRATS are solidly against.

And it’s the Conservatives who are treated like second-class citizens, as the original decision to run her by the Party attests. The only time we count is in Presidential primaries and in races like this, where we make noise. Otherwise we are patted on the head and told we need a bigger tent when all that is happening is that the Party bosses aren’t making the tent larger, only moving it left.

Don’t get me wrong, we need moderates, and many conservative planks ought to be de-emphasized as part of our strategy and for party unity. But we need a core of principles and a platform all of us can believe in and fight for, and are universal principles that unite instead of divide. And most importantly, we need to be a clear alternative to the Democrats. Scozzofava was not it, as there was daylight between her and Owens’s policy views from her right and his left.

JeffWeimer on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Meanwhile smart power in action Russia practices Nuke attack on Poland.

William Amos on November 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM

You are more right than I think you realize. Obama is gutting the military for the cash, a la “procurement holiday” Clinton – except he isn’t stopping at the cash. Obama wants a weak America to justify growing the size of Government beyond even the Left’s wildest dreams. A weak America by default also hides the fact that when it comes to foreign policy, Obama makes JFK look like Reagan: complete and utter sunshine and unicorns empty suit.

Remember well that little thingy about crises and opportunities…

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

It must be happy hour in obama’s ass…the trolls have left to regroup.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Wow, that’s a lot of anger, cat lady. Why not go for a walk around the block? Don’t worry, Mr. Whiskers and the rest of the ‘family’ will be ok. They’ll understand.

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Boehner said, “This rebellion are by people who really have not been actively involved in the political process. And they don’t really care whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican. They want to see people who are going to stand up and protect the future for our kids and grandkids.”

He gets it… a little late but he gets it…

Or not. Let’s see how he acts from now on.

She would have been another Snowe/Collins.

Good riddance

gophergirl on November 1, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Didn’t need to be a rocket scientist to see that. Though personally, I think she’s proven herself to be another Arlen Specter.

PPP is still doing polling and has been all day.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/more-ny-23-mess.html

-In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

kcarpenter on November 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Reaganite!

This only proves my point: there’s no such thing as the ‘moderate’ voter base. Only a group of people who vote for the candidate that looks stronger. Doug Hoffman has come from behind to show principles manner. On principle and on it’s face, Hoffman is now the stronger candidate.

It worked for Reagan, and it looks like it’s working for Doug. Memo to the GOP: more like Reagan (and Hoffman) please! Thank you!

Chaz706 on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

PPP Twitter…

So should I change the NY-23 horse race question AGAIN? Still expect Hoffman to win easily
about 2 hours ago from web

SouthernGent on November 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Moderates are frankly 2nd class citizens in this party…

Jill1066 on November 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Cry me a river. Moderates have been treated by the people in power as if they are Crown Princes whose only concern is over whose turn is next.

If only they were 2nd class within the party…

Kensington on November 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Wow, that’s a lot of anger, cat lady. Why not go for a walk around the block? Don’t worry, Mr. Whiskers and the rest of the ‘family’ will be ok. They’ll understand.

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Anger? That’s not anger. That’s disgust.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM

See @Jimbo3.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Hello do you two read polls. The undecided have decided. And they broke for hoffman. that is where the 15% is coming from as well as those leaving the demacrtic Dede. No one like a loser and a loser that stabs you in the back is worse of all. The undecided have seen the mettle of the dems and they do not like it. Hoffman by 15%

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Obama makes JFK look like Reagan: Obama is a complete and utter sunshine and unicorns empty suit.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Clarified what I meant there.

Wanderlust on November 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Wow, that’s a lot of anger, cat lady. Why not go for a walk around the block? Don’t worry, Mr. Whiskers and the rest of the ‘family’ will be ok. They’ll understand.

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Another troll pin for your dunce cap

Stay proud

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM

remind me not to get in any foxholes with you.

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

MeatinCA would love to be in a foxhole, or even a certain trollhole.

BTW where is his lady, you know who? :)

Geochelone on November 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Wow, that’s a lot of anger, cat lady. Why not go for a walk around the block? Don’t worry, Mr. Whiskers and the rest of the ‘family’ will be ok. They’ll understand.

simplesimon on November 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Was happy hour cut short? Gotta watch that anal poisoning, simpleton.

HornetSting on November 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM

See Doctor Zero‘s solution. New post in the Green Room.

publiuspen on November 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Simple CRR just called you an idiot . Withhold the sex.

CWforFreedom on November 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM

THANKS SCUZZYFLUVVY …. YOU’VE JUST PROVEN THAT

MODERATES = TRAITORS.

TheAlamos on November 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM

unseen on November 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM

I’ll let you take that one up with @Jimbo3. Oh, and yes, I’ve been reading the poll that you keep spamming.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Unseen, I do read polls. PPP said “In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points.” No other poll had anywhere near that level of support for Hoffman in the three way race. That makes his two way race figure suspect.

Jimbo3 on November 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM

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