Quotes of the day
posted at 9:30 pm on November 1, 2009 by Allahpundit
“For some time now Frank Rich, Sam Tanenhaus and countless others (including David Frum) have been arguing that the GOP is a rump party and the only way for it to survive is for it to embrace me-too Republicanism of one flavor or another. The story of all three major races (VA, NJ, and NY-23) is that this conventional wisdom was incandescently wrong and ill-advised… The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party, providing a choice not an echo, and — horror of horrors — it’s working.”
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“The more rightists who win G.O.P. primaries, the greater the Democrats’ prospects next year. But the electoral math is less interesting than the pathology of this movement. Its antecedent can be found in the early 1960s, when radical-right hysteria carried some of the same traits we’re seeing now: seething rage, fear of minorities, maniacal contempt for government, and a Freudian tendency to mimic the excesses of political foes. Writing in 1964 of that era’s equivalent to today’s tea party cells, the historian Richard Hofstadter observed that the John Birch Society’s ‘ruthless prosecution’ of its own ideological war often mimicked the tactics of its Communist enemies.
“The same could be said of Beck, Palin and their acolytes. Though they constantly liken the president to various totalitarian dictators, it is they who are re-enacting Stalinism in full purge mode.”
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“But other conservatives say the problem in both the New York contest and hampering Republicans more broadly is the tendency of GOP establishment leaders in Washington to get behind moderate candidates out of fear a purist conservative can’t win a general election.
“‘Hmmm, I thought the Era of Reagan was over?’ conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO. ‘Who was it that said that? Oh yeah, the smart people on our side who told us the only way we could win was with moderate-liberal candidates like Scozzafava.’…
“‘I think it will empower tea party activists’ to look for moderate scalps in other districts, fretted one senior GOP strategist with national campaign experience. ‘The question is, Will we go through a period in the party where a great purge begins?’ this strategist asked. ‘If it spreads into that, this will be a very bad day.’
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“The truth is that some conservatives are as bloody-minded and intolerant of all dissent as the hard left is at the Daily Kos. A majority political party requires a far more diverse coalition than the audience for your average right-wing blogger or talk show host. Some of those voices prefer having Democrats in power because it drives up their own ratings.
“Democrats did themselves no favors by driving Joe Lieberman out of their party, and conservatives will do their cause no good by forcing GOP candidates in Illinois, California and Connecticut to sound like Tom DeLay. If conservatives now revolt against every GOP candidate who disagrees with them on trade, immigration or abortion, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will keep their majorities for a very long time.”
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WALLACE: Lucille Golman sent this question, “Did you vote for John McCain in the 2008 presidential election?”
RUSH: I did.
WALLACE: Really?
RUSH: Of course.
WALLACE: But you’ve been so critical of John McCain.
RUSH: Yes, but you weigh the two. I don’t think — there are a lot of people, Chris, that are saying there’s no difference in two parties. I know a lot of people think that, and they’re — and they really, really believe it.
But I don’t know of any Republican who would try to take over one-sixth of the U.S. economy. I don’t know one Republican who would put forth this — this irresponsible cap and trade bill. I don’t know one Republican who would actually do that as something he initiated.
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Kini,have a great evening,I’m pack’n it in!
Aloha,and *Aloha po_!:
* (I cheated,I googled goodnight in Hawaiian,but screwed up
the little line thingy under the O!:)
canopfor on November 2, 2009 at 12:54 AM
What did you expect coming to a conservative site? Why are you here? I don’t hang out a Leftit sites.
CCRWM on November 2, 2009 at 1:04 AM
The Tea Party march was the opener. Hoffman v. the Machine was the first battle of the new revolution.
Tuesday we will see which side has the momentum. IMHO we do. That video of Obama Zombies at the Halloween March in Greenwich Village means the whole country has woken up.
I’m euphoric. I didn’t think it would happen this fast.
PattyJ on November 2, 2009 at 1:04 AM
I enjoy the entertainment, not the message.
Therefore, I ignore the message and enjoy the story.
Just like Palin points out the evil empire the obama is…
Reality based, you know.
Kini on November 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM
A hui hou!
Kini on November 2, 2009 at 1:13 AM
To clarify, Palin’s message is what I listen to.
I ignore the other messages….
whew….
Kini on November 2, 2009 at 1:22 AM
I love how Scozzafava is backing Owens and doing robo calls for him, but it’s Sarah who gets slammed for “abandoning” her party. Hello, she endorsed a Republican — he just happens to be a conservative Republican and didn’t have the blessing of the cynical NRCC. Now this alleged “Republican” turns around and endorses a liberal Democrat? Who is the traitor again?
NoLeftTurn on November 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM
Palin doing robo-calls in virginia. not for mcdonnell though. Just to encourage people to vote
ousoonerfan15 on November 2, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Why do people think that limited government is a bad thing?Conservatism is nothing more than believing that individuals should have power over their own lives.Conservatism is believing that the government doesn\’t make this country great.Conservatism is believing that the less centralized the power is, the better the government is.For some reason, even people in the Republican establishment apparently think it is the government\’s job to dictate everything to the people. In fact, if the government did nothing, most Americans would be better off.How are any of the above ideas \’frightening\’? They are conservative ideas. This country has a huge conservative ideology that encompasses all races and religions.
ThackerAgency on November 2, 2009 at 1:45 AM
Yeah Hornet. Sting that F*cker some more. He is going to need more than fins. He needs to grow a brain.
Geochelone on November 2, 2009 at 1:59 AM
Interesting….
You hang around where you aren’t wanted or particularly welcomed. And you say you are unhappy to be here, and yet, you can’t stay away.
Who said liberalism wasn’t a mental defect!
Why wait for Tuesday, beat the rush!
Bye-bye grow fins, we hardly knew you!
gary4205 on November 2, 2009 at 2:09 AM
No one making you hang around here.
(or ARE they? Maybe trolling Hot Air is your job?)
You could leave now, erase HotAir from your bookmarks, lock yourself in your Mom’s basement and never be forced to endure rational thought again.
LegendHasIt on November 2, 2009 at 2:13 AM
Well, we’re gonna need bigger shoes…and an even bigger bra!
That Dede is one large woman.
Jenfidel on November 2, 2009 at 2:27 AM
Rev Jeremiah Wright (introduced by Robert McChesney) speaking at the 60th anniversary celebration of the independent socialist magazine Monthly Review. The event was held on September 17th, 2009, at the New York Society for Ethical Culture in New York City.
VIDEO:
http://vimeo.com/6913334
Annie on November 2, 2009 at 2:36 AM
Ha ha, this is pretty funny. They fix the poll so that it only includes 17% Republicans. They then claim that only 17% of the public are republicans as as proof they quote the biased fixed poll. Pretty good shell game Frank.
Dollayo on November 2, 2009 at 2:43 AM
Aloha, Pehea ‘oe!
Kini on November 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM
alohapundit on November 2, 2009 at 3:06 AM
Maika’i no! Mahalo nui loa!
Kini on November 2, 2009 at 3:17 AM
dudette, good post. feel free to chime in on occasion or even more often than that depending on how them there planets are aligned.
Geochelone on November 2, 2009 at 3:27 AM
WASTE OF WORDS FOR JAR-RHEAD ET AL.
Of course, they are all greedy of power.
Because of this Win-Win-Corrupt mentality of the Democratic Party, it has been invaded by communists and socialists since the early 1930s. No principle whatsoever. They just go together and share the loot.
What’s the use of staying in the power if all your constituents are hungry and neutered.
TheAlamos on November 2, 2009 at 5:27 AM
Funny – Strange!
Last Month the mantra of the GOP moderate(RINO) wing was that the Reagan ERA was over. Comes now, the empty-suit wannabee speaker Rep. Boenor, jive-talkin about Lord Ronaldus’ 11th commandment! No John, we’re not “new to politics”, we’re just sick n’ tired of watching the socialist thugs MUG the USA, while the GOP acts as a willing accomplices to the assault.
As for that NY23 waste, Scuzzyfavors, she was obviously a Democrat disguised as a RINO. That Newty and the rest of the GOP elite couldn’t or wouldn’t sniff that beast out, speaks volumes about the REAL problem within the Republican Party!
Either the GOP, wakes up and smells the TEA, or they’ll be buried along with the Whigs!
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on November 2, 2009 at 6:18 AM
Are we actually talking about the John Birch Society? This is so silly. Hoffman does not strike as a Bircher. I do think that Beck is out for himself and I really do not trust the man. But that is a just a personal opinion, it has nothing to do with the larger issue here…I think Beck has latched onto a desire on the part of conservatives to bring the party back right in the hopes that it can offer a real alternative to Democrats.
I do think that politics are local however, and if Hoffman and Dede had faced off in a primary, he probably would have won it. There will be parts of the country where socially conservative people might have a hard time winning, but I do think that fiscal conservatism might well be a winner just about everywhere in the near future. It depends on the region of country where people are running. The GOP needs to run good local fiscal conservatives in these races.
Of course, conservative in California and conservative in Oklahoma are not always the same thing…but the direction matters. The pendulum appears to be swinging back right.
Terrye on November 2, 2009 at 6:19 AM
On Watch:
Be careful who you call a RINO, a lot of those folks out there that you might think are Republicans in name only, have been Republicans all their lives. I do think that Dede Scozzafava was a bad candidate and that she would not have survived a primary vote, however, this is a big country and whoever runs needs to fit the region they are in…after all it is their job to represent their constituents. It might well be that Hoffman is far better suited to do that in NY23 than Scozzafava ever could, but that does not mean the same will be true of every conservative in every race in the country. Politics really are local. I doubt very much if the GOP will go the way of Whigs.
Terrye on November 2, 2009 at 6:28 AM
Conservatives are as open to dissent as anyone. What we are not open to is turning over our freedoms to the care of someone who is diametrically opposed to our ideals.
Mr. Grump on November 2, 2009 at 6:30 AM
In fact, if you look at Rasmussens recent polls, the Republicans are seen as superior to the Democrats on all the major issues facing the country right now. And that I think is why Rush Limbaugh tends to be so reticent about supporting third party runs by and large. Of course there are exceptions to every rule.
Terrye on November 2, 2009 at 6:30 AM
This is fast only to a glacier.
Squiggy on November 2, 2009 at 6:40 AM
And isn’t this what we have been saying all along? The real question is, will the GOP learn anything from this? Do they even desire to?
conservnut on November 2, 2009 at 6:46 AM
terrye: if you are saying that a Republican in NY-23 might be a different kind of Republican than in NJ, Virginia, NV or Washington state, I agree.
but on this & other threads, I keep reading where people insist that a Republican be homogeneous everywhere. aint gonna happen.
kelley in virginia on November 2, 2009 at 6:47 AM
We’ve been purging people from the party since Reagan, but the litmus test was always abortion. I think that was the problem. If we switch the test to be fiscal conservatism, we’ll end up better than we are now.
Kafir on November 2, 2009 at 6:53 AM
I agree to a certain point. But there have been times when a consistent conservative message has carried the day almost nation wide. 1984 for example, when Reagan carried 49 states for his second term. The only one that he didn’t carry was Minn. The land that gave us Al Franken. But all those other liberal bastions went for the right.
I know, I know they still elected democrats to the house and senate, but the presidential race that year was big, there was no coordinated push in those days to get reps from one party or the other. Things have changed in that regard.
conservnut on November 2, 2009 at 6:57 AM
kafir: i agree. the anti-abortion crowd should be screaming & hollering about this Obama socialized medicine because it does not disallow fed funding of abortions (doesn’t allow it either). but since they are not willing to do that for conservatives, i am not willing to turn over my whole political party to them.
kelley in virginia on November 2, 2009 at 7:04 AM
This will all make we, the conservatives, feel better. But in the end both massive voter fraud, and the continual downward slide of morals and ethics, will ensure deviant Democrat victories ahead. Enjoy these small victories while we can.
God help our land.
Jeff from WI on November 2, 2009 at 7:08 AM
That is what happens when one is faced with the fact that their outlook on what is normal is way off base. It’s called cognitive dissonance. You think you are sick, but in reality, you are just starting to get healthy. You’ll fight it, but eventually you will come to accept the truth and it will set you free.
csdeven on November 2, 2009 at 7:12 AM
I think it was Hugh Hewitt who said “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.” We’ve got to make sure these elections in 2010 don’t have razor thin margins. A close race is all the criminal dems need to steal it. They’ve been stealing close elections since the did it with JFK in 1960. This is a center right country. If conservatives vote in big numbers, the dems can’t cheat to win and we’ll have no more fraudulent wins like the disgraceful Stuart Smalley in Minnesota.
If it’s not close, they can’t cheat!
Rational Thought on November 2, 2009 at 7:16 AM
It’s not OR. With Scozzafava, she was a liberal when it came to trade, immigration AND abortion. She was the complete, liberal package who also supported Card Check.
The conventional wisdom that the GOP needs to tilt as moderate no longer makes sense thanks to Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. Since they adopt a far left agenda, a counter balance is needed. Moderates must now choose between traditional conservatism and the free-market on one hand, and big government, nanny-state socialism on the other hand.
pearson on November 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM
spot on…
however, with the so called moderates already/still in Congress, I feel we may see more ‘gang of 14′ come creeping up from the depths until we can get more conservatives in office….
cmsinaz on November 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM
Now quit it with all that there furriner talk! Don’t y’all know that we’re a-feared of minorities around here? (And we’re also apparently seething with rage, so be careful!).
AZCoyote on November 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM
Anyone else see Geraldo trying his best to claim Limbaugh’s “man-child” comment was racist? Why does Fox put up with that clown?
joedoe on November 2, 2009 at 7:32 AM
Worth repeating! +1,000
redwhiteblue on November 2, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Fair and Balanced.
Cindy Munford on November 2, 2009 at 8:06 AM
I thought Rich showed that he’s missing the point, too. The fact is that Dede dropped out when her polling showed she would be beaten badly in a 3-way race. Her negatives skyrocketed. All anyone had to do, apparently, was reveal her voting record.
AnninCA on November 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM
The alternative (hanging on to RINOS like Arlen Specter as long as possible) is no better.
For all the talk of a “purge-” Really, folks, we haven’t had an unapologetically Conservative Presidential candidate since Reagan. Congress hit a “Conservative” high-water mark 15 years ago, then frittered it away on power plays and corruption/moneygrubbing junk. We had a “maverick” RINO as our candidate a year ago, and he failed to win office.
Who’s chasing whom out of the party? NY 23, etc. is simply saying the conservatives saying “no, this is our party. If you want to be a lib, there’s a liberal party over there under the donkey.
You don’t have to go, you are welcome to stay, but don’t ask the base to write checks, sit in the corner and shut up.”
IMO.
cs89 on November 2, 2009 at 9:12 AM
What’s that the moderates are always saying?: “Vote for the man (or woman), not the party.”
OK. Hoffman is the conservative choice – and that’s a ‘stalinist purge?’
More leftist blather. The moderates can all go stand in the middle of the road.
FIRED UP!
clap clap
READY TO VOTE!
clap clap
FIRED UP!
clap clap
READY TO VOTE!
clap clap
FIRED UP!
clap clap
READY TO VOTE!
clap clap
locomotivebreath1901 on November 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Terrye you sound like wounded RINO!
Your remedy though, is more like a repeat of the Republican
“BIG TENT” recipe (McCain)that brought us the Obama disaster!
NO! Accepting politicos like Specter, Snowe, Collins, Graham, and other assorted RINOs as bonafide Republicans, simply allows their cross–aisle liberal malfeasence to infect the party, as well as our wallets!
As for your denial of the Whig fate that’s in store for a GOP bereft of Conservative ideals, I suspect the Whigs thought they were invincible too.
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on November 2, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Spot on, but that imagery is way too effective. I can actually smell a barnyard now when I picture Skifooza in that pink moomoo she’s wearing in that one pic.
justltl on November 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM
There was a Republican being badmouthed in NY 23. I thought Hoffman was a conservative independent.
Scozzafava’s endorsing her fellow leftist Owens, merely confirms her real allegiance, one that was blatantly obvious from the start. Certainly no badmouthing a Republican here.
Did i miss a fourth candidate? ;-)
Slowburn on November 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Not all the tea-party-goers are even Republicans–some of them actually voted for Obama, unaware (in 2008) of his socialism, appalled by it now. Small-government conservatism, fiscal responsibility, and low taxes WORK and are popular with the electorate. Ronald Reagan was able to push his tax cuts through a Democrat-controlled Congress, because Carter’s economic policy had led to disaster, and Reagan knew how to explain this to the voters.
Republicans lost the elections of 2006 and 2008 because some of them had forgotten their roots and core principles, and got swept away with K Street projects and dispensing favors and corrupt deals, and former President George W. Bush didn’t communicate well with the electorate during his second term, and bungled the emergency response to Hurricane Katrina.
We don’t need a “purge” in the Republican party, but we need articulate conservatives who are steadfast to their principles and know how to EXPLAIN why they work, in a way that is convincing to middle-of-the-road voters who can vote either way in a given election. Then, once they are elected, they need to stop campaigning and start governing, with integrity and competence.
It was the “constant campaign” that brought down George W. Bush, when he should have been working with Congress to get things done when Republicans had the majority. Obama is, to a greater degree, in “constant campaign” mode, and his vanity and thinking that he alone knows what is good for the people might bring him down faster than Bush 43. For 2010, Republicans can tap into the tea-party revolt by being FOR free markets, FOR fiscal responsibility and low taxes, and AGAINST socialism and government takeovers.
Steve Z on November 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM
It was the “constant campaign” that brought down George W. Bush…
I call Bullsh!p!
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on November 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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