Bill Blizzard on November 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM

You are aware that Counterpunch is run by a Holocaust-denier, correct? And that it served as a mouthpiece for Pol Pot’s supporters in academia, denying the killing fields and return to year zero in Cambodia even took place, all while evidence was piling up to the contrary, correct? Hey, if you want to align yourself with Holocaust deniers and Khmer Rouge sympathizers, don’t let me stop you. But people need to know this is where you go for your “news.”

You really are a sub-human piece of filth. Sometimes, I really think you guys are a bigger threat to western civilization than the Islamists. At least they are honest.

Somewhere in this blog, I (think I) have a post in which I reference this post or perhaps better, this post since it references the former. The point, one of it’s points, is that O and the Gang are not Marxists. They’re just regular, well, …

The US founding fathers advocated a free press to be a watchdog over the government. When Counter Punch does just that people accuse them of being anti-American. So they must believe the founders to be anti-American too.

Bill Blizzard on November 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM

The Founders were far more concerned with limited government and avoiding the concentration of governmental power. Most of all, they chose a Constitutional Republic over a Democracy, which is why we don’t have national referenda for anything. But, go ahead and keep advocating for the Hondurans to ignore their own Constitution, which was implemented with an eye to avoiding the classic and oft-recurring Latin American problem of dictatorships arising, in order to concentrate and extend power for your leftist thug.

It cannot be repeated enough; you people are despicable.

Eduardo Maldonado, a popular commentator on radio and television, does not hide his allegiance to Zelaya. He said he openly backed Zelaya’s efforts to hold a nonbinding referendum asking Hondurans to approve a constitutional amendment on presidential term limits, which sparked the crisis.

Bill Blizzard on November 1, 2009 at 8:54 AM

The referendum was declared unconstitutional by the Honduran Supreme Court and the promotion of that illegal referendum is also unconstitutional, per the Honduran Constitution:

Article 42.- The quality of citizen gets lost:

5. To encourage, promote or support the continuity or the reelection of President of the Republic; and,

There was an earlier attempt to amend the Constitution, which was legal, but that was rejected, which is why your dear, leftist wannabe dictator decided to break all constitutional proscriptions and force the referendum. When rejected time and again, the wannabe dictator, Zelaya, tried to order the Honduran military to carry out the referendum in defiance of the Supreme Court’s ruling.

It’s pretty sad how you slimebags are so brazen about your desires to install leftist dictators, violating any and every law in your pursuit of an iron grip on power. You people are absolutely despicable … and incredibly stupid, too.

elduende on October 31, 2009 at 5:24 AM
Funny, I get a similar reaction on some places when I post links to HA.
So what source would you consider believable?
Dark-Star on October 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

He considers the Honduran media and whoever picks up and post their feeds verbatim, to be believable.

From the Wash Post:>

In Honduras, some of the most popular and influential television stations and radio networks blacked out coverage or adhered to the de facto government’s line that Manuel Zelaya’s overthrow was not a coup but a legal “constitutional substitution,” press freedom advocates and Honduran journalists said.

Soldiers raided the offices of radio and TV stations loyal to Zelaya, shutting down their signals. Alejandro Villatoro, 52, the owner of Radio Globo, said soldiers broke down doors and dismantled video surveillance cameras. “They grabbed me and put me face down and put six rifles on me, with a foot on my back holding me down,” he said. “It was like I was a common criminal.”

In Honduras, though, the country’s new leaders, the security forces and the clergy argue that Zelaya’s removal had legal justification the rest of the world does not understand. Local media largely “slanted coverage” to favor that position, said Carlos Lauría of the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists.

“The de facto government clearly used the security forces to restrict the news,” Lauría said. “Hondurans did not know what was going on. They clearly acted to create an information vacuum to keep people unaware of what was actually happening.”

Most, if not all, of the news media here are unabashedly partisan, Honduran journalists say, with newspapers and broadcast outlets allied with political parties and local power brokers.

Eduardo Maldonado, a popular commentator on radio and television, does not hide his allegiance to Zelaya. He said he openly backed Zelaya’s efforts to hold a nonbinding referendum asking Hondurans to approve a constitutional amendment on presidential term limits, which sparked the crisis.

The morning of the coup, Maldonado said, he was due to appear on his TV show on Channel 66. Instead, soldiers arrived at the station and prevented him from broadcasting.
“It was a well-prepared coup,” he said. “They only allowed the media that were loyal to them to operate.”

Zelaya’s supporters say that their marches receive scant media coverage, unlike the rallies in favor of the coup, which are advertised on several TV channels.
“The ones that transmit what is really happening here are closed, like Channel 36,” said Juan Carlos Valladares, a teacher who was demanding Zelaya’s return on a recent day.
Channel 36 was off the air for a week after soldiers arrived at its headquarters minutes after the coup. Esdras Amado López, the station’s owner, said he is pleased to be back on the air now. But he remains shaken.
“I am frustrated,” he said. “I feel bad because this is my job, this is my dream, and I worked very hard to have this station.”

Please cite how a propaganda platform for Michelle Malkin, George Bush, and Rush Limbaugh is authoritative on an any issue let alone one involving a Marxist power grab in Latin America. Normal Americans certainly won’t. If you find the anti American Hotair believable then the problem is you not me.

random liberal person on whenever at whenever PM

Sounds just as silly the other way around, doesn’t it?

So what source would you consider believable? Clown Hall perpahs?

Dark-Star on October 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Please cite how a propaganda platform for Noam Chomsky, Cynthia McKinney, and Fidel Castro is authoritative on an any issue let alone one involving a Marxist power grab in Latin America. Normal Americans certainly won’t. If you find the anti American Counterpunch believable then the problem is you not me.

It’s not a done deal yet folks So I wish people would stop saying that Zelaya’s coming back. It’s very likely but hey, they decided to kick him out once because THAT’S THE LAW. So why is anyone so sure they won’t do so again. I hope they say no to this twisted arm twisting by our duly elected Communist and his lackeys/lickspittles (john kerry and hillary clinton, I’m talking about YOU).

They wisely will leave the Army in control of certain aspects of Government (that’ll hopefully keep El Puerco Chavez at home) and the Court will also supervise him. Personally, I don’t see the point to this except to appease some of their citizenry who were hoping for a “BIG MAN” cult of personality to take effect.
The U.S. and the Congress have shown their true colors and their fecklessness in this thing.

There is an election being held, by the way, as part of the agreement.

Bleeds Blue on October 30, 2009 at 10:33 AM

An election was always scheduled to be held. It didn’t need interference from Chavez or the US or any other international watchdog to assure that this was so. Micheletti was placed into his role as a temporary president as per the Honduran constitution. He is not running in the election to maintain that power.

The Obamao policy via the State Department was not going to recognize the November election in Honduras unless Zelaya finished out his term. The US decision, besides being punitive to Honduras all along, is not about the rule of law but about the rule of Leftist strongmen.

elduende on October 31, 2009 at 5:24 AM

Funny, I get a similar reaction on some places when I post links to HA.

So what source would you consider believable? Clown Hall perpahs?

Bill Blizzard on October 31, 2009 at 1:01 AM

Nice try troll. Everyone knows Counterpunch is Marxist filth. Next time use credible sources and not the propaganda arm of the CPUSA to crap all over a thread. Cretin.

Haveing an example of a republic democracy, much like own and in our own back yard, removing a president for attempting to change the constitution to install socialism, and the power to remaine president as long as he wants, is not what Obama, nor his good friend Chavez, wants or needs. That would not be good for either of them in the future, particualarly Obama.

The restoration of a president with dictatorial dreams in Honduras is
being touted by the administration as a triumph of “dialogue.” In
truth, it’s just old-fashioned … More »

Zelaya returned to power

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Bill Blizzard on October 31, 2009 at 1:01 AM

Legislation does not supercede Constitutional restrictions in a Constitutional Republic. You don’t seem to understand how these structures work. No big surprise. The Honduran Supreme Court ruled the specific referendum unconstitutional, as it made minced meat of a whole slew of Constitutional restrictions, after which your leftist buddy violated a raft of laws by trying to force the military to carry out his personal preferences (in defiance of the court’s rulings) … culminating in Zelaya’s storming of an army building (with a bunch of his goons) to steal the illegal ballots and still carry out the referendum on their own. Maybe that’s how you like to operate, but Constitutional Republics don’t work that way. Of course, we can all see how you slime ignore our Constitution in your mad rush to have the government gobble up every bit of property and power in sight. You people are truly despicable.

President Zelaya intended to perform a non-binding public consultation, about the conformation of an elected National Constituent Assembly. To do this, he invoked article 5 of the Honduran “Civil Participation Act” of 2006. According to this act, all public functionaries can perform non-binding public consultations to inquire what the population thinks about policy measures. This act was approved by the National Congress and it was not contested by the Supreme Court of Justice, when it was published in the Official Paper of 2006. That is, until the president of the republic employed it in a manner that was not amicable to the interests of the members of these institutions.

Why Zelaya’s Actions Were Legal

More articles.>

Hypocrisy and the Honduran Coup

The Coup and the U.S. Airbase in Honduras

Chiquita in Latin America

Correction, he yielded to keep more of his familiy from being murdered.

- The Cat

MirCat on October 30, 2009 at 10:26 PM

It’s interesting how all of the news accounts of this “agreement” skipped that little piece of info. Unreal.

The interim government of Honduras has yielded to international pressure

Correction, he yielded to keep more of his familiy from being murdered.

- The Cat

Or, the Israelis’ have gained complete control over Zelaya. This must be in reponse to the threat that Honduras poses to Israel. Or something.

You know, the world is just completely bizarre right now.