Zelaya returned to power
posted at 8:48 am on October 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Now we know why John Kerry demanded that the Law Library of Congress withdraw its report declaring the removal of Manuel Zelaya from the Honduran presidency legal, weeks after the issuance of the report. Honduras, under new pressure from the US, has agreed to allow Zelaya to return as president to the Central American nation under an agreement announced this morning. However, there is one piece of good news, assuming Zelaya keeps his word:
The interim government of Honduras has yielded to international pressure and agreed to allow the return to power of Manuel Zelaya, the ousted President who was toppled in a military coup four months ago.
The breakthrough came after renewed pressure from senior US officials who travelled to Honduras this week for a last-ditch effort to end the crisis.
“It is a triumph for Honduran democracy,” said Mr Zelaya after the rival sides agreed to a deal under which he may be reinstated as President within days.
Well, no, it’s actually not a triumph for Honduran democracy. The parliament in Tegulcigapa had voted unanimously for his removal after Zelaya attempted to violate the nation’s constitution and fake a referendum vote, for which ample evidence existed. It’s actually a triumph for American interventionalism, which this administration pretended to eschew. So much for a humble foreign policy.
The problem should be short-lived, however (emphasis mine):
Mr Micheletti said that Mr Zelaya could return to office after a vote in Congress that would be authorised by the country’s Supreme Court. He said that the deal would require both sides to recognise the result of a presidential election due to take place on November 29 and would transfer control of the army to the top electoral court.
The United States, the European Union and Latin American leaders had all demanded that Mr Zelaya be allowed to finish his presidential term, which ends in January. They had said that they might not recognise the winner of the November election unless democracy was first restored.
Zelaya had attempted to use the army to promulgate his illegal referendum on allowing presidents to seek more than one term, with ballots stashed for the purpose. Now he won’t have any authority over the army at all, which will temporarily take its orders from the court. Meanwhile, the elections that even Zelaya’s own party wanted will go forward, without Zelaya able to seek a second term (and without Micheletti as well). In other words, he may be president, but he’s already a lame duck — with a very, very hostile parliament to boot.
Rumor has it that Zelaya initially refused to sign the agreement, and that he had to be prodded to do so. It’s not hard to see why. He gets to return home, but essentially gets to sit in an office for a few weeks and do nothing. Assuming he doesn’t lead some sort of coup d’etat himself on his return to Honduras, which would make the Obama administration look even more inept in this circumstance, Zelaya is out of power for good.
Update: Be sure to read Fausta’s roundup from the region.
Update II: Law Library of Congress to John Kerry: Pound sand.
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So who is our new Communist State Department’s favored candidate in the Nov. 20 elections? And what do they do if the Honduran people refuse to cooperate and elect the other candidate?
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM
This is a disgrace.
CP on October 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM
The Honduran Supreme Court still has to sign off on this, and the Congress has to vote on it.
How ironic it would be if one or both turn down the agreement. Zelaya and Obama agreed that both institutions should have input and presumbly they’d abide by whatever decisions were made.
If the behind the scenes thuggery doesn’t work, and Honduras followed the letter of the agreeementon its part, it will be interesting to see how the US then says the elections will not be recognized.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM
This isn’t the first time Kerry has meddled in Latin America.
CP on October 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM
You really are f#cking stupid aren’t you?
The Supreme Court and Parliament instructed the Honduran military to remove Zelaya. I’ll type really slow so that your lips can move while your read it aloud: the Supreme Court and Parliament. The military was acting in line with the Honduran constitution. The only person who attempted to use the military in an illegal manner was your pal Zelaya. Not Micheletti, Zelaya.
Oh, and nice slam at Pinochet. But, I don’t expect someone who reads Mother Jones or the Nation to know a f#cking thing about history.
Moron.
PimFortuynsGhost on October 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Don’t confuse him with facts.
sonofdy on October 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Fausta’s Blog even has a picture of Zelaya, Shannon and the tin foil curtains.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 10:38 AM
No, idiot, there is an election being held because it is time for an election under Honduras’ constitution. The only “agreement” is the agreement of the new imperialist U.S. government to recognize the winner of that election as legitimate and stop impoverishing the poor people of Honduras because they refused to support Barack Obama’s pal Zelaya.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM
The principles of outraged conservatives and entrenched interests using the military to install their own puppet as head of government? Very democratic of you.
Oooh, someone got duped into reading that rebarbative “People’s History of the United States,” didn’t they?
I’d be bitter too if I was forced to sit through the ersatz education you apparently had to sit through.
Does your registrar give refunds?
Sad.
jeff_from_mpls on October 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Are you really saying liberal presidents didn’t support any of those moves???
LOL crack a book.
sonofdy on October 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM
President Micheletti’s nephew was murdered and I’m sure Micheletti was receiving additional threats.
This is how the EVIL people are.
Watch what Gene “Chip” Tatum, a former CIA Black Ops Assassin has to say about how they do things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6dOsAZfZI
.
ms on October 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Will Jimmy Carter be monitoring these elections?
tomas on October 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM
So now you flip it. You’ll back every socialist thug you can, and you’ll wreck US elections with fraud.
Chris_Balsz on October 30, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Fausta’s Blog says part of the agreement is the establishment of a “truth commission” to investigate an report on the events surrounding Zelaya’s removal. Any guess as to whether this will include a real investigation of the execution-style murder of President Micheletti’s nephew?
The agreement also reportedly is for a power-sharing arrangement. Apparently Micheletti has not agreed to step down at all, just share power temporarily with Zelaya until the new President takes office. That’s not the worst solution to this “crisis.” It seems Micheletti stuck to his guns pretty hard and the agreement will make it virtually impossible for Zelaya to pull anything.
The President doesn’t have a ton of power under Honduras’ constitution anyway, and if Zelaya no longer controls the military I think this is just a stupid fig-leaf “restoration” of him so that his fanboys like Obama can call him El Presidente again for a few weeks.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM
I attempted to defend the Obama on the military funeral thing. Then this happened. No more defending.
All he needs to do to round out this week is demand the Israelis stop having so many d*mn babies and really I’ll never be able to defend anything he does again.
This is a disgrace. If President Bush had done exactly this, can you imagine the outcry???
mjk on October 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM
For all of their flaws, anti-communist regimes were much less problematic than communist regimes. Only a fool (or a communist, but I repeat myself) would rather live in the Chile of Allende instead of Pinochet or the Turkey of Erdogan (okay, he’s an Islamist, same thing) instead of Ozal or Ciller. But, then again, Bleeds Blue is probably has a dart board with Vaclav Havel and Lech Walesa’s picture on it.
PimFortuynsGhost on October 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM
not going to happen
runner on October 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM
The reason that
actually bleeds blue is due to the lack of oxygen.
Trochilus on October 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Trochilus on October 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Hmm, hadn’t thought of that. Comments do sound like they were typed by someone suffering from hypoxia.
cs89 on October 30, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Rule of law be damned. And, no, do not include the US when tyranny triumphs over liberty.
anuts on October 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM
The Congress, the Supreme Court, the military and the Catholic Church all support Micheletti. Zelaya has the unions and possibly the peasants who were promised land reform. The last is odd coming from Zelaya, who is supposed to be a cattle baron. Cattle need a lot of land on which to graze. Probably someone else’s land gets reformed.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM
“Rule of law be damned. And, no, do not include the US when tyranny triumphs over liberty.”
Bleeds Evil is fully aware that the rule of law and freedom was destroyed by Obama’s evil actions.
What you are seeing is the open face of those who enabled and loved the gas chambers and gulags, folks.
Never forget.
ebrown2 on October 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM
He gets to return home, but essentially gets to sit in an office for a few weeks and do nothing.
That should leave him lots of time to go golfing with Obama.
Y-not on October 30, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Unconstitutional.
Kralizec on October 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM
“Go ahead, Mel. We’ll just kind of sit here and watch ya, if ya don’t mind…”
mojo on October 30, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I got the impression that Zelaya was a recent convert to socialism (which is part of the reason his party wasn’t happy with him). Its entirely possible that he was willing the steal land from his former competitors to “spread the wealth around”.
Count to 10 on October 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM
And it is infuriating that “we” basically forced them into it.
Count to 10 on October 30, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Shameful. Obama is dragging us where he and his pals have always been: on the wrong side of history.
el gordo on October 30, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Obama was against meddling in foreign countries before he was for it. Such arrogance!
OxyCon on October 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM
This development is disgusting. The communists in our government interfering with a democracy in South America is disgraceful.
dogsoldier on October 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Obama opposed Zelaya’s ouster by peaceful, constitutional means simply because he’s afraid the same thing will happen to him.
Emperor Norton on October 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM
hey did everyone hear Pakistan mysteriously ‘found’ passports and such from the 9/11 attackers following Hill’s “I find it hard to believe you cannot find them’ speech yesterday?
ginaswo on October 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM
this is all they can do under the Mary Queen of Scots political rule, which says dont let another monarch/president be deposed or your head may roll next (Charles I found this out the hard way)
ginaswo on October 30, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Disappointing. I can’t believe they knuckled under to this cr*p. They should have never let that turdbag back into the country.
If they have to remove him again, I hope they’ll bring a garbage bag and do it right this time.
austinnelly on October 30, 2009 at 12:12 PM
All this for what? So that this dictator can experience an orderly exit from power?
This makes our gang in Washington happy?
Worst administration ever and we are less than one year in.
Taking bets Zeyala never leaves. Also betting our crew will be alright with that.
FireBlogger on October 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM
When will jimmy carter be heading down to Honduras to confirm that an aggressive write in campaign spurred by acorn has resulted in zelaya being reelected?
peacenprosperity on October 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Same here.
Dave R. on October 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Eh. I think it is much more prosaic. The clowns in this Administration were caught with their collective pants down when Zelaya was removed – I’m sure Zelaya was assuring them that he was fine right up until the soldiers came through the door to remove him – and they overreacted to it. Then they had to double down on their interference to cover up their own incompetence in the whole affair.
It’s all about “getting the win” for Obama now, as Bleeds Blue confirmed with his issuance of the talking points. They know that most Americans still don’t know and don’t care about what happens in Honduras, but they will hear out of one ear about the U.S. helping to “restore democracy” and reverse a “military coup” and think Obama did a good job here. The when the elections are held and Zelaya peacefully gives up power to the new President, it will all end well for everyone, including the Honduran people.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM
This is not a win for barry by any standard and could be a big loss for barry and the honduran people if this guy with help from chavez, castro and carter takes over honduras.
peacenprosperity on October 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM
You are stupid beyond words.
Dave R. on October 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM
The honduran military screwed this up. zelaya should have been arrested for his crime and then allowed to post bail and start his legal defense. The court should have expedited the process and had him and his lawyer argueing why he shouldn’t go to jail. Instead the military gave him the choice of being arrested or leaving the country. He chose the route that made it look like he was forced out of office. It was a good public relations move on his part and a stupid move by the military. Maybe in the future they will learn that the law is the law if you want to be a civilized, stable country.
peacenprosperity on October 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM
None of this “return Zelaya to power” farce would have happened if they’d put a bullet in him in the first place.
They should consider amending their constitution to make attempted takeover a capital crime rather than just “cease to be President”. They had all the players — legislature, supreme court, army — they just didn’t have a sufficiently straightforward consequence.
cthulhu on October 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM
I’ll see your bet and raise you that not only will “our crew” be all right with that, but in fact Obama will help negotiate armed Zelaya reinforcements from other nations in order to make sure it happens.
jwolf on October 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Is ACON International going to be registering Voters in this election?
BigMike252 on October 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Nah, I think some of you are just full of crazy-talk on this. Zelaya’s done, and he knows it. He and Obama are just trying to salvage something so they can do some ore photo-ops and Obama can crow about his new foreign policy approach being a success.
Zelaya is gong to find out that once he is back and his usefulness in creating a propaganda win for Obama is over, he won’t get a return call from the White House again. He will be thrown under the bus along with everyone else who is no longer useful to The One.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Let this be a lesson, next time Zelaya tries something
SHOOT THE BASTARD
agmartin on October 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM
The Precedent lies about the Honduran government perpetrating a coup in order to support his leftist buddy, Zelaya, who actually did attempt a coup. In opposition to American law, The Precedent and his gang of morons officially declared the lawful operation of the Honduran government to be a “coup”, installing a junta, in order to be able to withold money and set in motion a series of automatic events. This is a clear abuse of power by The Precedent and his henchmen – more pointedly identified as one analysis after another showed the Honduran government to have acted lawfully in fending off Zelaya’s coup attempt – and a fraud utilizing US resources in order to further the leftist ambitions of the COCOA-Puffs.
Add this to the articles of impeachment for The Precedent. It is quite a long list, at this point.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM
His return to Honduras has already happened once, since he has left Honduras twice. Did the Brazilians beam him over to their embassy? This is his second return to Honduras, wherein he leaves the Brazilian embassy and its soil and again steps across the driveway (this time into Honduras). One of the two following quotes will apply:
Gen. McArthur: I have returned.
Darth Vader: You should not have come back.
unclesmrgol on October 30, 2009 at 12:53 PM
I think the US finally realized it was conned by Zelaya, Chavez, and Lulu. No doubt promised there would be a popular uprising once Zelaya returned. (La Gringa had an interesting post in September about how Zelaya could not have come back over land in the time allowed, and must have flown in; the easiest airport to sneak in would have been…a US base).
Once Zelaya started with the tin foil on the windows, the US realized he was a whackjob, but their whackjob for the time being. That picture with Shannon and Zelaya and the tin foil on the windows is priceless.
Zelaya has enough looted millions stashed away for a comfy exile.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Those who suggest that Honduras should have kept Zelaya in the country and tried him for treason miss the point. While technically correct, it’s highly likely that had Zelaya stayed in the country unincarcerated, he would have gotten help from Chavez and Ortega to gin up massive demonstrations, general strikes, etc. to prevent any trial from taking place. He would have been leading rallies of unionists every single day and stirring unrest in the country. He would not have honored the legal process at all, nor recognized its legitimacy in trying him.
It is totally understandable under these circumstances that the military removed him from the country. Unfortunately it did give him and his pals in Washington a propaganda tool to use in calling his forced exile illegal.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Agreed. This was all an exercise in making chicken salad out of chicken sh– by the State Department. The best thing that could have happened for them was for this agreement to take place just a few weeks before the election, so that Zelaya really can’t do anything to stop it and make them all look like fools. I’m sure a substantial amount of that restored U.S. foreign aid will find its way into Zelaya’s bank account too.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM
He got that help anyway, and nothing much happened.
The “unfortunately” part is the result of the ill-considered act of a government exiling a citizen without trial.
unclesmrgol on October 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM
This administration doesn’t respect the Honduran constitution either. At least their fair.
DFCtomm on October 30, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Given that the only US air bases in the region are also Honduran Air Force bases, that would either have involved Honduran armed forces collusion of a massive scale, or an assault by US forces to secure the port of entry.
If it happened, the US forces on the ground would have had to do something more than pout in their barracks.
I’m guessing you are right, but it certainly wasn’t a US base — it was probably some dirt airfield just outside the capital.
unclesmrgol on October 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Fascists ignore constitutions. Kind of like Obama did, and like you do. So don’t think calling other people fascists will fool anybody. The only fascists here are the ones who try to force another sovereign nation to ignore their constitution and install their pet candidate.
Frankly, this is about the most contemptible thing you’ve posted yet.
tom on October 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Zelaya was found by their Supreme Court to have violated the Honduran Constitution and, as per article 42:
could have just had his citizenship revoked.
Who are you to tell Honduras what is lawful in their nation and what isn’t, especially when they followed their own laws?
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Words fail me….. anger at the idiots in the administration and brainless twits like “Lurch” boiling over. Libs are such idiots.
ultracon on October 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM
As Ed noted, anything Zelaya does in those final few weeks falls directly back on Obama. Pretty risky, but then again… he’s nothing if not stupid. :lol:
And even if Zelaya minds his P’s and Q’s and causes no further trouble, a tall order… Obama has still shown a BLATANT DISRESPECT for constitutional law and the sovereignty of nations.
Murf76 on October 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM
And The Precedent has intentionally lied and perverted American law (in declaring a coup by the Honduran government, which any moron knows is a lie) in order to abuse the power of the US government (kicking in automatic actions regarding US funds and commitments) in order to effect an illegal policy with respect to Honduras. Impeachment material in a normal world.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Is it too soon to talk about impeaching Obama now? Given that he just put the entire State department behind restoring a man to power in a sovereign nation that the UN (!?!) and the law library of Congress say was properly removed, surely it’s time for Congressional hearings to begin.
tom on October 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Rock solid proof that the Democrats and Obama are officially communists. No doubt to be found now. None. Nada. Doubt no. Communists. Pure and simple.
Griz on October 30, 2009 at 1:31 PM
That’s bad enough, but they aren’t even modern communists, they are warmed-over 1970s communists. It’s like that whole End Of The Cold War thingie never even happened.
rockmom on October 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Thanks for the information.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Obama and Hillary Clinton are disgusting and should be shunned by all freedom and independence loving people, the world over.
Schadenfreude on October 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM
“We’re just startin’. You ain’t seen nothin’, yet” — Obama
Fools are those who thought otherwise.
Schadenfreude on October 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM
La Gringa’s Blogicito: How to help Honduras. Become a election observor [hey, don't let Jimmy Carter and Zelaya get away with anything].
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Good news for Ortega! Score 1 for the
Obama – Castro – Chavez
fascist junta.
Reality Check on October 30, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Schadenfreude, Hillary’s been a real hit in Pakistan. A group of women she met with wasn’t impressedk, either. Almost makes you understand why Obama gave the real authority to envoys.
Wethal on October 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM
How much do any of you want to bet that Huge-ego Chavez has something up his sleeve to give Zelaya his coup?
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Venezuelan and or Cuban regulars in the streets of Tegucigalpa in less than a month.
babylonandon on October 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM
And once again, where the hell are the repubes? They should be raising the roof over Obama working to reinstate a freedom-hating commie who was legally removed from power.
Dave R. on October 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM
That’s called an attempted coup, Ed (especially when you factor in that Zelaya took his thugs to break into the army building housing the illegal ballots, to distribute them, themselves, in direct defiance of their Supreme Court’s rulings).
When are you finally going to start calling Zelaya’s moves “an attempted coup”?????????
I’m glad that you paint a decent picture for the situation, as a whole, but your reluctance to plainly state this point is very disappointing, especially as I have been telling you this since the first day this story broke.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM
DeMint has been all over this, and, from the media, Greta has done some great coverage of the situation – including pointing out that the “Honduran representative” at the UN is a member of Zelaya’s wannabe junta and was a terrorist from the 80′s, a bomber not unlike Billy Ayers. But the US allowed the terrorist bomber who represents no government in and refused visas to the legitimate Honduran representative.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Once again, we have yet another example of Obama’s disdain of Constitutional order, and his malignant hypocrisy by using coercion and intimidation to aid the march of Marxism in one of our strongest allies.
elduende on October 30, 2009 at 2:24 PM
This isn’t over yet. Zelaya still needs to win a vote of confidence from the Honduran Congress. Marxist pressure is being applied as I type.
Zelaya’s Marxist street thugs are already gathering to intimidate the Congress into voting for Zelaya. Between the threats of violence and the Marxist pressure from the American government, the Congressmen will have to hold firm.
elduende on October 30, 2009 at 2:31 PM
I believe that the Honduran congress and their SC will go along if nothing else to get the international idiots off their backs. The deal makes Zelaya not just a lame duck, but he might as well stay in room and watch re-runs of “The Brady Bunch.” I have a feeling that his bodyguards will not necessarily be there to protect him, but rather keep a very close eye on him. It would have been most preferrable had the Idiot in Chief actually followed what is right and supported the Honduran nation in it’s effort to uphold and enforce its Constitution.
TQM38a on October 30, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Obama opposed Zelaya’s ouster by peaceful, constitutional means simply because he’s afraid the same thing will happen to him.
Emperor Norton on October 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM
The same thing will happen to Oglablabba.It will be Constitutional, but I’m pretty
sure it won’t be peaceful.The next war inside America will be wholly UNCIVIL..
huckelberry on October 30, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Our government has behaved disgracefully. They refused to support the Iranians rising up against their oppressive belligerent government, even if only symbolically. Supposedly because they didn’t want to interfere in the internal politics of Iran. Yet, they bully a constitutional republic to violate their constitution and embrace and yield their liberty to an aspiring despot.
For what it is worth, I apologize to the Honduran and Iranian people for the behavior of our government. Our government has chosen tyranny over liberty and freedom. I am ashamed.
DeathB4Tyranny on October 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Big mistake!
ya2daup on October 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Return to power, declare martial law since the election can’t be held under the cloud of a coup and bingo….Chavez light becomes Chavez Dark!
LifeTrek on October 30, 2009 at 5:37 PM
A coup : Don’t believe the myth
Brass on October 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I don’t know if Obumma and Rahmbo are too stupid to recognize it or simply arrogant and obtuse regarding the facts, but this administration’s legacy when all is said and done will be one of crime, corruption, and cronyism rarely seen in Washington politics. Barry makes Tricky Dick
seem almost saintly, and whoever thought something like that could happen?
Goldy1 on October 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Next time don’t Exile him. Instead arrest and put him on Trial.
CrazyFool on October 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM
A leader such as Zelaya averse to a nation’s constitution can do a helluva lotta damage in five weeks. Consider the damage Zero managed to do to our Constitution and the economy in the exactly four weeks of February. Zero is probably having Zelaya returned as a symbolic gift to his dear Hugo Chavez.
viking01 on October 30, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Here’s hoping he returns to office for about 5 minutes, then gets the 9mm retirement package that he shoudl have gotten in the first place.
Greg Q on October 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Crap.
I was going to leave it just at that, but I HAVE to add that I hope Zelaya tries to pull something outrageous, and then has a ‘terrible accident’ resisting arrest.
LegendHasIt on October 30, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Secretary of State Kerry must have convinced the Israelis’ to turn off the cosmic ray gun, at least temporarily.
Or, the Israelis’ have gained complete control over Zelaya. This must be in reponse to the threat that Honduras poses to Israel. Or something.
You know, the world is just completely bizarre right now.
BobMbx on October 30, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Correction, he yielded to keep more of his familiy from being murdered.
- The Cat
MirCat on October 30, 2009 at 10:26 PM
It’s interesting how all of the news accounts of this “agreement” skipped that little piece of info. Unreal.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Why Zelaya’s Actions Were Legal
More articles.>
Hypocrisy and the Honduran Coup
The Coup and the U.S. Airbase in Honduras
Chiquita in Latin America
Bill Blizzard on October 31, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Legislation does not supercede Constitutional restrictions in a Constitutional Republic. You don’t seem to understand how these structures work. No big surprise. The Honduran Supreme Court ruled the specific referendum unconstitutional, as it made minced meat of a whole slew of Constitutional restrictions, after which your leftist buddy violated a raft of laws by trying to force the military to carry out his personal preferences (in defiance of the court’s rulings) … culminating in Zelaya’s storming of an army building (with a bunch of his goons) to steal the illegal ballots and still carry out the referendum on their own. Maybe that’s how you like to operate, but Constitutional Republics don’t work that way. Of course, we can all see how you slime ignore our Constitution in your mad rush to have the government gobble up every bit of property and power in sight. You people are truly despicable.
progressoverpeace on October 31, 2009 at 1:17 AM
So Obama gets his way with a presicent that the rule of law, even constutional law can not remove a sitting president from office. To do so is a violation of democracy. We have seen that he only gets involved personally with things that effect him directly. It appears to have hit very close to home for him and perhaps his plans to do the very same thing to us.
Haveing an example of a republic democracy, much like own and in our own back yard, removing a president for attempting to change the constitution to install socialism, and the power to remaine president as long as he wants, is not what Obama, nor his good friend Chavez, wants or needs. That would not be good for either of them in the future, particualarly Obama.
Franklyn on October 31, 2009 at 3:24 AM
Nice try troll. Everyone knows Counterpunch is Marxist filth. Next time use credible sources and not the propaganda arm of the CPUSA to crap all over a thread. Cretin.
elduende on October 31, 2009 at 5:24 AM
America. This is your future!
chicken thief on October 31, 2009 at 7:34 AM
The WSJ has a different take on the situation. They are treating neither the requisite supreme court opinion nor the congressional vote as givens for Zelaya. In fact, they’re scoring this as a Micheletti win and a U.S. et al. face saver.
Barnestormer on October 31, 2009 at 8:07 AM
Funny, I get a similar reaction on some places when I post links to HA.
So what source would you consider believable? Clown Hall perpahs?
Dark-Star on October 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM
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