Liz Cheney: I can’t believe Obama brought photogs to Dover with him
posted at 9:19 pm on October 30, 2009 by Allahpundit
Gateway Pundit clipped this yesterday and today it made the big time. I get the revulsion at photo ops with fallen soldiers, believe me, but look: He didn’t go to Dover as a prelude to pulling out. Even under the “McChrystal light” strategy that he’s toying with right now, we’re still talking about a build-up of some kind. If he had gone to Dover as a prelude to withdrawing, this photo would symbolize his willingness to abandon Afghanistan and, by extension, U.S. interests because he’s simply unwilling to accept casualties. Doing that on the backs of the dead, who fought valorously to win, would be intolerable. Going to Dover before a build-up symbolizes the opposite, that he is willing to accept the political consequences of further casualties to defend U.S. interests. Conveying that message by posing with a casket is dicey (although he did have the family’s permission), but it’s much more vivid than simply having a press pool reporter write it up — just as the photos of jumpers on 9/11 are much more vivid in communicating the stakes of terrorism than print accounts.
Look at it this way. A year from now, after many months more of hard fighting and men killed in action, which side is more likely to be angrily waving this photo in his face? Conservative hawks or the leftist doves in his own base? The answer is obvious, and don’t think he doesn’t know it. Yet he went and took the photo anyway. As a show of “tenacity” before the anti-war crowd that’s starting to shout at him about quagmires, you can do worse than this.
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Absolutely revolting.
terryannonline on October 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM
You most certainly are.
huckelberry on October 30, 2009 at 10:53 PM
+1000.
HornetSting on October 30, 2009 at 10:54 PM
So Dear Leader needs a bloody shirt to wave, big deal. All of you need to give him and Allahpundit (Hot Air’s answer to Kim Philby) a break on this one.
Knott Buyinit on October 30, 2009 at 10:56 PM
how do you know he didn’t go to Dover as a prelude to pulling out? Did Obama whisper his decision in your ear?
Willie on October 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Please sit on your finger and spin. A photo op with our fallen heroes is beyond disgusting, even for a blood fart like obooba.
HornetSting on October 30, 2009 at 11:01 PM
So Dear Leader needs a bloody shirt to wave, big deal. All of you need to give him and Allahpundit (Hot Air’s answer to Kim Philby) a break on this one.
Knott Buyinit on October 30, 2009 at 10:56 PM
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Why ?
Dopenstrange on October 30, 2009 at 11:02 PM
So THAT’S why we never see them in the MSM.
docob on October 30, 2009 at 11:11 PM
O’Bummer was more than happy to give his practiced salute. No doubt he silently was grateful that he didn’t have to make the same sacrifice while raking in millions for being a nothing.
Too cynical? No, I don’t think so.
Cody1991 on October 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM
But we’re cool when Sean Hannity says that because of Obama’s dithering, more Americans died in Afghanistan last month than any other month of the war?
YYZ on October 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I posted earlier on the NYT change of the Dover story about how having cameras at this was disgusting and as I checked back through the day, I was surprised that most didn’t recognize the bigger issue that is now being covered with this segment.
I think AP is missing the even bigger picture. He hasn’t thought about what potential harm this might cause him down the road anymore than he has considered anything else he has and is choosing to do. It’s all today. We worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
His judgement is nonexistent when it comes to honor and respect, not to mention good taste.
And since I bring up respect, the commander and chief is not a military rank. He returns a salute when saluted. He doesn’t offer a salute. Maybe a bow….. As a civilian, you show respect to the flag with your hand over your heart. Just like all the other civilians standing in the line.
JeffinOrlando on October 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM
..and is he did, he’s a f**king genius!
VoyskaPVO on October 30, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Maybe he was going for a JFK Jr. watching his daddy’s casket go by shot.
29Victor on October 30, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Barry is such a weak, skinny looking wimp and next to military guys that stature is even more emphasized.
Seeing pictures of him saluting is very difficult to stomach…super-poseur vibe, it is.
PC14 on October 30, 2009 at 11:25 PM
President Obama has been saluting fallen soldiers in Afghanistan for months now.
It’s just that this time he used all five fingers.
29Victor on October 30, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Allahpundit…always willing to assume the best about the person who is tearing our country apart.
Idiot.
notagool on October 30, 2009 at 11:34 PM
He gives a damn – good.
Does he need to let everyone know that? Not really – but he still gives a damn, and that counts for a lot, no matter what we think.
JeffWeimer on October 30, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Please sit on your finger and spin. A photo op with our fallen heroes is beyond disgusting, even for a blood fart like obooba.
HornetSting on October 30, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Hey Hornet, that is one vivid description. I’ve never heard that phrase before but I’m gonna use it first chance I get.
huckelberry on October 30, 2009 at 11:39 PM
I doubt Obama even understand the reason behind the salute. The fact that he’s there is Ok and I’ll leave it to the families to judge his motivations. Hopefully, he really cares. But so far, his actions seem to be more political than responsible. He certainly does not have to send the full 40,00 until he is sure of the direction of the new presidency, but he damn well should send enough to support our troopers until he does decide.
csdeven on October 30, 2009 at 11:39 PM
You can’t assume the worst of people all the time. Sometimes you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.
terryannonline on October 30, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Exactly. We don’t know what he was thinking or feeling. Why should be get into questioning his motives?
terryannonline on October 30, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Your assignment was to produce a well reasoned counter-argument to the preemtive invasion of Irag, which purpose was to remove a mass-murdering dictator and his thuggish, evil sons from undeserved power.
With 6 years of time to complete your assignment, you produced the above;
Total failure, in reason, logic, and proofs.
massrighty on October 30, 2009 at 11:42 PM
By showing up for a photo-op. What a sacrifice. What a guy. What a phony crap sandwich. With all due respect.
JeffinOrlando on October 30, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Fact: The Obama Administration changed the rules of engagement to the point where it’s nearly impossible to engage IED emplacers unless they are demonstrating all the necessary steps to emplace all at the same time. IE, digging in the road at 2am, setting the charge, running the wires (for command det), covering the charge and or watching the site under cover.
Fact: These guys emplace in stages and almost never have the same team complete all the tasks.
Fact: The Obama Administration should be well aware of the enemies TTPs.
Fact: The seven Stryker soldiers were killed by an IED.
Fact: His change of the ROE and his dithering certainly isn’t doing anything to “improve” our situation now, is it?
hawkdriver on October 30, 2009 at 11:44 PM
All those Code Pinkers will still vote for him in the next election. The alternative is voting for the Republican, or, even worse, a Paulbot.
As for the picture, he got one family to agree, and that’s all he needed. Hopefully he saluted all of the remains and not just the ones whose family agreed to the publicity.
unclesmrgol on October 30, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I can boil it down for ya with just one word-TACKY. Plain old tacky as hell. He shows zero class. And Bush was a clod????
di butler on October 30, 2009 at 11:46 PM
The longer Barry takes to act, the stronger the enemy gets.
Rule of Jihad War, Number 1.
They interpret his fumbling and bumbling and dithering and diffidence as Essential Weakness.
Correctly.
And see through this kind of crass political opportunism and laugh at the posturing wimp playacting Caring President Toughguy.
profitsbeard on October 30, 2009 at 11:47 PM
No different in the tactics as of late, maybe. But definately different in our sincereity to the Armed Forces. Besides, it’s only fair to use the enemies tactics against them. Especially when they work so well. We learn lessons slow, but once we got it. Yep.
hawkdriver on October 30, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Even when surrounded by the caskets of dead heros, Obama thinks it’s all about Him.
Obama is not worthy to lick the dirt off of those dead soldiers’ combat boots.
BottomLine5 on October 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM
The rules have changed now, so long as the families ok the photographs. Which I suppose I’m fine with. The truly sickening thing is that the President Of The United States would even consider asking the families if he could use their fallen loved one as a prop.
It’s disgusting.
BadgerHawk on October 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Obama is stupid for saluting. It shows a lack of maturity and respect for the LIVING around him. Only a civilian with a total lack of military awareness and a numbing sense of his own importance would salute in that situation. Someone needs to teach that boy some etiquette. Any old moron can be saluted, but you have to earn the right to execute a salute in a situation like that. Obama is just a pretentious little poseur.
Metanis on October 30, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Amen Glad to see you are ok Hawkdriver.
Gracelynn on October 30, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I would applaud this from My President if he didn’t have to have the cameras.
Sorry it just for show. It tears me up to read about these boys and see Barry with a casket.
If you had shown up without the damn press it would have gotten out. The familes would have said something you child in chief why the photo Op. It just tears me up.
EPIC FAIL
Gracelynn on October 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Let’s see f:
a) He sent 20000 more troops to Afghanistan. That is not a small number in the context. 20000 is almost half of previous American troop strength in Afghanistan. Why did he sent troops if he is AQ member as some of you clearly believe?
b) He is evaluating a request for more troops. He has not said no yet, you wingnuts.
c) Predator drone attacks in Pakistan have gone up sharply since Obama took over. Look at number of AQ leaders who have been killed right from Baitullah Mehsud.
d) Hillary Clinton went to Pakistan and read the riot act. I come from India; I know better than most of you how many times Pakistanis have taken the world for a ride. Every time they pretend to be fighting the terrorist while secretly arming and supporting them. Most previous administration had winked at it; we had the sec of state–no less–who goes out and tells it as it is. And please don’t fucking lecture me about terrorism: I can’t recount the number of times there were terror attacks in India and all you heard from the West was need for dialogue. America discovered terror after 9/11.
e) Of course there is politics around. And you are telling me that’s not how it is supposed to be? Or did Bush fire Rummie in 2006 because he suddenly discovered he was incompetent? The progressives who are Obama’s support base are dead against the war. The decision to send the troops was taken expressly against their wishes. He needs to throw a few crumbs at them. And you disagree with that? Are you going to vote for him because he will send 40000 more troops? Of course not!
So please, to call an American president terrorist sympathize is disgusting. And if you wingnut, don’t realize it, then shame on you.
rightistliberal on October 30, 2009 at 11:56 PM
You can’t assume the worst of people all the time. Sometimes you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.
terryannonline on October 30, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Your precedent oblabagabba always has the benefit of my doubt.
huckelberry on October 30, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Brilliant satire!
As for your last question, read the Authorization For Use of Force. It contains almost 20 different, multi-sourced documented reasons for going into Iraq, and your party signed off on them. And guess what? Only 1 is WMDs.
Thanks for playing!
Del Dolemonte on October 30, 2009 at 11:57 PM
(emphasis mine)
Sorry, this analogy doesn’t work for me. Yeah, I get the point about vivid reporting. Nonetheless, one involves the horror of innocent people plunging to their death in desperation, while the other involves a POS POTUS looking for an opportunity to practice his tin-soldier salute.
Humility was in order for this occasion, but it’s always about the O.
Shame on you, Allah. But more shame on Obama and his administration.
BuckeyeSam on October 30, 2009 at 11:58 PM
For those who find this acceptable in any way, here’s your assignment this weekend.
Go somewhere, anywhere, where you might find a gathering of either active-duty or former military personell. Tip: there may be a VFW in your town, for example.
Ask them how they feel about this.
You will find that all of them, (all of them!) find this episode reprehensible.
massrighty on October 31, 2009 at 12:02 AM
I think this photo op was a reaction to him speaking to Oberman more than the General McCrystal.
Also, Healthcare and the secret Honduras deal.
Lately I’ve disliked talking to people about politics because they typically don’t know a thing about a guy named Zelaya.
father on October 31, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Yep. While I believe he should be there as a witness to acknowledge the last full measure of devotion, the moment should not have been photographed. All part of creating a hagiography.
Reminder: President Bush chose to meet with families of the fallen in private.
PS: For all who serve or have served, thank you, on behalf of our grateful family.
publiuspen on October 31, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Fact: The Obama Administration changed the rules of engagement to the point
hawkdriver on October 30, 2009 at 11:44 PM
hawkdriver:Thanks for the heads up,I figured Hopey Changed
the Rules of Engagement,you answered my question
:)
canopfor on October 31, 2009 at 12:13 AM
His salute is far too stern to be taken seriously by a guy who was never in the military. It looks contrived to the nth degree. obama just can’t seem to do anything right these days.
keep the change on October 31, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I edited a bit for you. My first reaction was exactly what you’ve said about the contrived salute. I know very little about the military, but my very first thought was to wonder how long he stood before the mirror practicing that salute. My second thought was that the person who had to make the call to arrange for a photographer to be there must have a sick feeling in their soul. Then there’s the shame that the photographer must feel. Oh, the evil of it all!
redwhiteblue on October 31, 2009 at 12:30 AM
One of my biggest problems with this is the media’s perception that Obama doing this photo op is somehow more courageous and sincere than Bush actually meeting with the families.
Over and over the MSM keeps saying that instead of talking to the families, Obama saw the costs “firsthand”.
How is it more courageous and “firsthand experience” to get a photo op with the deliveries of our fallen Soldiers than it is to look into the eyes of their families and talk to them face to face about their sacrifice and loss.
The loss of our Soldiers is just so heart-wrenching and personal that I just don’t think publicized and used for photo ops.
Bush met hundreds of family members without the need for photo ops but Obama can’t seem to go anywhere without his teleprompter and a camera.
I reserved judgment on this until I could look into how our Soldiers viewed this.
Here is a little bit of it from Mudville Gazette:
http://www.mudvillegazette.com/032823.html
It seems to me the best thing Obama could do for our Military is provide them the leadership and resources to complete the missions he stands as the POTUS over.
So far he has played over 24 rounds of Golf and met with General McCrystal twice.
Not a dam# thing “respectful and honorable” about that.
Baxter Greene on October 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Quoth the Raven.
That is what is wrong with the Republicans.
Ugly on October 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Dead serviceman = prop = political guts
Got it.
Y-not on October 31, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Exactly.
Remember, Media Benjamin has already gone to Afghanistan with her fellow scummy anti-military cohorts and declared that we do need troops over there.
With Obama in the White House…”War is the Answer”.
Funny how they are not in the streets anymore yelling about war crimes when Obama is following the same policies as Bush did in dealing with captured terrorist and military actions in Iraq/Afghanistan.
Baxter Greene on October 31, 2009 at 12:41 AM
So far he has played over 24 rounds of Golf and met with General McCrystal twice.
Not a dam# thing “respectful and honorable” about that.
Baxter Greene on October 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Baxter Greene: As you have pointed out,Liberals are in
forever,ongoing,neverending,perpetual
Deception/Perception Mode!!:)
And with that,I’m calling it a night!
Goodnighjt,BG aand all H/A Crew!:)
canopfor on October 31, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Oh puhliz
He used the right hand and right number of fingers to salute
Give the poor guy a break
/sarc
macncheez on October 31, 2009 at 1:01 AM
I think this is going to back fire on Obama, but not in the way he calculated…
Yes, he is a product of a corrupt political machine, with no ideological ties to those who fought and died for this country, with no respect for the Constitution, nor any Rule of Law that he can not pervert…
… He is paid for and bought, has handlers left and left of left that tell him what to do,
But on this one night, he was faced with the true responsibility of the Office of the President of the United States…
If he actually has a soul, then maybe he won’t be sleeping so well tonight, maybe he won’t listen to those who surround him blindly, maybe he just might see the blood on his hands..
… then again, maybe he doesn’t have a soul, and is just a political hack who hates America at all costs, and this was just another fumbled photo op.
We shall see…
Seven Percent Solution on October 31, 2009 at 1:09 AM
For liberals, politicization isn’t everything, its the only thing.
Our children bleed for a radical liberal’s Presidential photo-op.
Speakup on October 31, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Allah…good call, as usual.
From the comments (mostly against, at least as far as I have seen) you must be on to something.
I have to agree.
deebinto on October 31, 2009 at 1:12 AM
I am sorry if this has been said before—-But “O” has absolutely no respect for our military—-can this be just a salute to the new GM Plant that Biden got for his State ???? Just a thought–
Ladywolfnl on October 31, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Good God (yes) AP, either we’re there to win or not. Quit being an apologist for Obama.
fabrexe on October 31, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Dam# that’s good.
Hope you don’t mind if I use that sometime.
Baxter Greene on October 31, 2009 at 1:21 AM
elduende on October 31, 2009 at 1:22 AM
As a Scoutmaster, I’m offended by your statement :). SM is a much more important position than POTUS. I wouldn’t recommend this tool to be troop bugler. My SPL is a more responsible and honorable ‘man’ than the current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Fighton03 on October 31, 2009 at 1:24 AM
How many military families, wounded soldiers, and unloading of fallen warriors has Obama attended without cameras at the ready?
Now tell me how many Bush did, as part of his duty, without photos snapping?
Obama is the epitome of the political opportunist, otherwise known as a slimy sack of dog s**t. I understand the point that Allah’s making, and it’s more important to the larger war effort. However, I don’t buy for one second that Obama is making this gesture out of any concern about the war. He’s continuing to show a complete lack of guts about his proclaimed principles.
MadisonConservative on October 31, 2009 at 1:27 AM
I would disagree. The best thing this piece of @#%$@ could do for the the US military is get the F@ck out of the way.
My other suggestion might attract the attention of the Secret Service.
Fighton03 on October 31, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Do you think the poser in chief would have the b@lls to meet with the families of these soldiers knowing they were opposed to him, the way W did?
Fighton03 on October 31, 2009 at 1:30 AM
Bringing a cameraman to this, politicizes our fallen brothers…
I really cannot express how much this disturbs me.
Anyone know if the Family gave permission for this picture?
Romeo13 on October 31, 2009 at 1:37 AM
I see Obama saluting, who does he think he is? Obama is NOT a member of the military or a veteran of the military in uniform or a member of the VFW or American Legion wearing a cover and thus CANNOT salute, you have to EARN the right to salute.
nelsonknows on October 31, 2009 at 1:38 AM
His lack of respect and outright disdain for our Armed Services Personnel is palpable.
If the man had gone there and we’d read about his doing so sans photos I would have been suitably impressed. As it is he used those fallen Warriors for a photo op. Nothing more.
Please…don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s rainin’.
Obama is a liar and Truth is
killing his Marxist agenda.
Army Brat on October 31, 2009 at 1:45 AM
For all the years the ‘Press’ and the Left went after President Bush…..
… He never used this as a photo op. That was for the family. Even after she spent years going after him, he never pulled it out.
I doubt President “Cry Baby” knows the difference…
Seven Percent Solution on October 31, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Only one, the rest were repulsed…
May the all Rest in Peace.
Seven Percent Solution on October 31, 2009 at 1:53 AM
There is no law saying that a civilian cannot salute. There is no earned right to salute — or rather, no requirement not to salute.
The military points of etiquette you describe are associated with those who are serving or who have served — not with those who have never served.
As much as I dislike the guy, as Commander-in-Chief, he’s also the titular head of the military, and is saluted by those covered by your etiquette. Again, like many Presidents before him, he has returned the salute, and those individuals acknowledge the salute by completing theirs.
Another way of looking at this is that one salutes a superior. Those individuals who have given their lives for our country are far superior to the man giving the salute — a man who thought about and then discarded the road these dead servicepeople took to its bitter end. They deserve his salute.
unclesmrgol on October 31, 2009 at 1:56 AM
Are you f@#$%^g kidding me??? This was a ridiculously offensive photo op. It is a ‘Peace Prize’ photo and an image he is looking to portray – nothing more. He doesn’t give a damn about the soldiers. If he did he would ‘listen to his generals on the ground’ as we heard about President Bush so often. It’s a quagmire, civil war. He should read his Sun Tzu.
He is getting his ass handed to him in Afghanistan and Pakistan (yeah, I said it). The terrorists know he is weak. Iran knows he is weak. Israel sure as hell knows he is weak.
….and he flies himself out for a photo op saluting the dead before he signs a half-assed effort to continue their fight with less than the requested forces.
Yeah, real f@#$%^g noble, Allah. All praise Zero!
Mr Purple on October 31, 2009 at 2:41 AM
I certainly prefer your solution to mine. I guess I should have stated that the best thing that Obama could do “realistically” was provide our military with leadership and resources to win.
If there is a camera or a chance to take credit for something involved, you can forget Obama “getting the f$$k out of the way”.
Obama’s weakness and procrastination in addressing the “good war” that he repeatedly told us our National Security depended on us winning has certainly emboldened the enemy and left our Soldiers high and dry.
All the hustler and chief is doing is creating a window to get his talking points and trial balloons circulated by his activists friends in the MSM while he weighs out which decisions he can make that will benefit him the best politically.
Obama’s failures with domestic policy,Iran,Russia,and N. Korea are bad enough but we as a country need to make him and the democratic party pay dearly for their inept handling and possible failure in Afghanistan.
The American Soldier deserves a he!! of a lot better leadership than our Paparazzi and chief is delivering.
Baxter Greene on October 31, 2009 at 3:00 AM
So what do our troops think while the prez is in deep thought, hemming and hawing, jawing and preening, pensive on the golf course, wondering, pondering, weighing if’s, and’s, and don’ts. Is he concentrating on the next hole, or, is his entire, collective brain wrapped around the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Silly question.
betsyz on October 31, 2009 at 3:21 AM
Baxter Greene-
Just a meager note to tell you that I appreciate your intelligent input. You include so much information when you respond to the lunatics. I don’t know how you have the patience nor stamina sometimes. But you keep at it, and I applaud you.
betsyz on October 31, 2009 at 3:25 AM
p.s.
Mr. Scribble and Mr. Purple, I adore you, too, although your code names sound like something out of the “Clue” game. No offense intended at all. Most endearing.
betsyz on October 31, 2009 at 3:35 AM
IT IS NOT 3:40 a.m. here in the wonderful Harry Reid state. Just creeping up on 1:00. You can take “creep” and Harry Reid anyway you want to.
betsyz on October 31, 2009 at 3:42 AM
What the hell are you blathering about, AP? The story is that he took photographers with him, and all you did was give some justification for him going to Dover. What does that have to do with your headline? Not a thing. It’s going to be interesting to see if you can still get away with calling yourself an atheist after such a blatant display of Obama worship.
Ronnie on October 31, 2009 at 3:58 AM
Dick Cheney wasn’t CiC. No relevant. Idiot!
Fed45 on October 31, 2009 at 4:20 AM
This wasn\’t a photo-op. It was media control. Earlier this week the headlines were \”Deadliest Month in Afghanistan Since War Began\”. With the photo ban lifted, the White House feared reporters would do follow up stories including photos from Dover.So they sent Obama up there to change the subject. Think about it…you haven\’t seen any stories about the long procession of caskets being unloaded. Only about the president\’s trip.Mission Accomplished.
jeanneb on October 31, 2009 at 5:04 AM
Well here’s something we can shout. We can shout LBJ/Nixon. It’s another Vietnam. A war fought with half measures and worry about what lousy stinking long haired maggot of an anti-war hippie thinks. Only difference is today’s hippie maggot has gray hair & wears it in a slimy pony tail.
Jeff from WI on October 31, 2009 at 6:30 AM
Reputation is earned from the things you so while others are watching; Character is grown from the things you do when only you will know.
From his life, including the trip to Dover, I conclude his reputation as a sh*t and his lack of character are both fully earned.
johnsteele on October 31, 2009 at 7:01 AM
Oh yeah sure, like the 3,000 troop “mini surge” in Kabul early in the year, that worked great didn’t it?
You go all in or all out when our troops are dying. Did Iraq not teach us anything? I trust what the hand picked General on the ground says he needs over what Biden, Kerry and a Community Organizer claim he needs. I just don’t see any good reason for not giving the Genral all of what he wants. No strategic reason has been given other than Kerry’s asinine call for a political solution first (which will never happen without security) and you know it’s not about money because Obama has no problem throwing that around. We can certainly spare the men considering we have idle troops in Iraq right now with literally nothing to do, so what the hell is the reason for not giving the General what he wants? All I have to go by is what the General insists on what he needs and contrast that with the non-response from Obama.
Did you read what you just wrote? There are dead troops in that photo, and you’re discussing the politics of it? I don’t care if this benefits or hurts Obama, the problem I have is that he took photographers with him in the first place. If he truly wanted to salute the fallen troops then he should have done so but instead he brings photographers with him to capture this moment right after his speech about “not wanting to send troops in harms away”. He’s playing politics at Dover and you have just fallen into that political game. I don’t care about the politics when there’s a dead soldier in that casket.
Daemonocracy on October 31, 2009 at 7:06 AM
So symbolic…Obama only salutes the American flag when its draped over a casket.
FOAD, Mr. President.
bluelightbrigade on October 31, 2009 at 7:10 AM
Why didn’t the grusome pig just open the boxes and have a picture taken with the guy. They did that in the “old days” of the Civil War. Besides, the family may have made a donation for a copy of the photo.
Mr. Grump on October 31, 2009 at 7:18 AM
Everything is a photo op and a Pr stunt for Obama.
vcferlita on October 31, 2009 at 7:21 AM
A photo is taken for a reason–to be shown. Unless BHO’s got hidden somewhere in the family quarters a scrapbook which he takes out on those occasions when someone’s been mean to him and all those caring photos are duly triangle-cornered into place to help him feel relevant again, that photo was meant to be published and splashed around the world to show how much he cares for our military. If you need a photo to show it, then you ain’t got it. His ROE, his dithering, his golfing, his basketball, his date nights, his beer summits, his WH parties, his clunkers, his health care reform!, his car companies, his banks, his pandering to the Left, his manchild salute are the true indicators of how much he cares and what his priorities are. I thank G-d every night that I went against my peers and upbringing, did some vetting resulting in a refusal to vote for this disgusting, lying, pathetic excuse of a Commander in Chief. G-d bless our troops and may they prevail in spite of the BHO’s of this world.
Mae on October 31, 2009 at 7:27 AM
Or maybe he’s trying to foment a surge for withdrawing and this begins the cover.
This is was squalid.
Say it, AP.
drjohn on October 31, 2009 at 7:32 AM
There was no other reason to take photographers than to get pictures to use for political purposes. Period. He and his advisers talked about the use of pictures and made a calculated decision based on political considerations.
WordsMatter on October 31, 2009 at 7:33 AM
Wow, thats one angry lesbian. It\’s impressive that you \’conservatives\’ like her so much.
simplesimon on October 31, 2009 at 7:35 AM
You said it! I would have respected his visit if the public would have found out about this several days after the President had been there, but he is always in campaign mode and wants to make sure he can see himself daily on the news.
Our brave soldiers deserve more respect than a photo op.
yoda on October 31, 2009 at 7:47 AM
Donald Rumsfeld’s autopen thanks you.
simplesimon on October 31, 2009 at 7:52 AM
You’re up pretty early troll. Go upstairs and drink your milk.
yoda on October 31, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Wow, thats one angry lesbian. It\’s impressive that you \’conservatives\’ like her so much.
simplesimon on October 31, 2009 at 7:35 AM
You lttle POS. It’s Mary who’s gay. Someone needs to tell your mom you’re using the computer again. You ARE simple…minded.
gitarfan on October 31, 2009 at 8:15 AM
I down with one still picture! BUT to see him marching in step with uniformed military personnel REALLY LOOKED STUPID!
If anyone out there has not seen the HBO Movie Saving Chance, the true story of a Marine LtC who escorts a fallen Marine home to his family, please rent it, buy it, steal it if you have to, but watch it and then tell me what you think of Obama’s stunt!!!!!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on October 31, 2009 at 8:24 AM
DUH! The name of the movie is TAKING CHANCE. Here is the trailer and there are other clips on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtmiLdzzgGE
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on October 31, 2009 at 8:31 AM
They deserve a REAL Commander in Chief too, not this clown.
Absolutely disgusting.
Jeff from WI on October 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Thank you for the youtube trailer. I will try to find the entire movie.
yoda on October 31, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Just think, right now some slimey White House aide is busy reading these posts,just knowing how wonderful his/her boss, Barrack really is. So feeling, so patriotic, so much bull.
Jeff from WI on October 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Next time he wants a cheap political photo op using dead soldiers as a prop, he should bring Bin Laden along.
TexasJew on October 31, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Remember, during the campaign, how President Obama skipped out on a visit to the troops in Germany for a basketball game once he learned that no cameras would be present?
That’s leadership.
BadgerHawk on October 31, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Liz Cheney is a married mother of five. Her sister Mary is the lesbian. But isn’t it telling how you so-called “progressives” — the same people who are constantly lecturing the rest of us about “tolerance” from your moral high horses — are always the first to try and use a person’s sexual orientation as some sort of slur on her character.
You’re pathetic, simpleton. Truly pathetic.
AZCoyote on October 31, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Gad! How disingenuous can you get Obama? While a senator did you once come to the aid and support of the troops…? The answer is NO! Now that they are dead you can use them. “Disgusting” is not a strong enough word for you.
Bert Convy on October 31, 2009 at 9:02 AM
She married her partner? That IS tres progressive! I believe that she only has 1 child though.
simplesimon on October 31, 2009 at 9:13 AM
She has 5, genius. There are plenty of other threads for you to act like a childish jackass on. Go hang out on one of them and stop trivializing such a serious matter.
BadgerHawk on October 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM
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