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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 69% increase in capital-gains taxes</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2941570</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 69% increase in capital-gains taxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House plan for ObamaCare that passed on Saturday contained a plethora of new and increased taxes, which the Americans for Tax Reform listed in an effort to make Americans aware of the burdensome [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Weekly Claw 11-3-09 - AllMilitary.com's Military Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Weekly Claw 11-3-09 - AllMilitary.com's Military Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a life, and therefore cannot spend the time to read and study the 1990 page Obamacare bill, here’s a few of the NEW TAXES that are embedded within. Do any of you still believe Obama’s promise to not raise taxes on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a life, and therefore cannot spend the time to read and study the 1990 page Obamacare bill, here’s a few of the NEW TAXES that are embedded within. Do any of you still believe Obama’s promise to not raise taxes on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kissmygrits</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the spending for this fiasco starts several years after the tax collection, how much you want to bet the libs spend it all before the costs kick in?  Of course, then they will have to raise taxes to make up the shortfall.  Unless doctors and hospitals will take a IOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the spending for this fiasco starts several years after the tax collection, how much you want to bet the libs spend it all before the costs kick in?  Of course, then they will have to raise taxes to make up the shortfall.  Unless doctors and hospitals will take a IOU.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Bend over an COUGH (here come the taxes)</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Bend over an COUGH (here come the taxes)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nondhimmie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOCTOR&#039;S ORDERS
Republicans warn: Rationing medicine has already begun
Obama extends health care act blamed for costing AIDS patients their lives
Posted: October 30, 2009
11:35 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

President Obama today extended a federal AIDS program that an unlikely pair of Republicans – one blasted for being &quot;anti-gay&quot; and the other chairman of an organization for homosexual conservatives – criticized earlier this month as a foreshadow of the rationing and waiting lists sure to come if the U.S. adopts even more government-run health care programs.

In a ceremony this morning, Obama signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act, which continues a federal program that provides up to $2.5 billion annually in medication for AIDS patients.

The move was lauded by many homosexual advocates, including Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese, who called the extension a &quot;tremendous step&quot; on behalf of people with HIV and AIDS.

But in a joint opinion piece called &quot;Govt.-Run Health Care Isn&#039;t the Answer,&quot; published in the online version of The Advocate, a leading homosexual magazine, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., and GOProud&#039;s Christopher R. Barron warned the homosexual community that the Ryan White CARE Act has already demonstrated how government-run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.

Send Congress a message – no government health care, or you&#039;re outta there – through WND&#039;s exclusive &quot;Send Congress a Pink Slip&quot; campaign!

&quot;The federal government will spend $15 billion on AIDS treatment alone this year,&quot; wrote Coburn and Barron, &quot;yet due to the inefficiencies of the public-run program, thousands will not receive appropriate care.&quot;

The Republicans leveled a list of accusations against the government program Obama extended and the recipient of most of its spending, the AIDS Drug Assistance Program, or ADAP. They alleged:

    * &quot;In recent years, two patients in West Virginia and five in Kentucky died while awaiting care on waiting lists for the RWCA AIDS Drug Assistance Program.

    * &quot;Today there are 247 Americans on waiting lists for lifesaving AIDS drugs in eight states. The number is expected to reach 500 by Christmas.

    * &quot;Many other ADAP patients, while receiving care, are being denied the best treatment. Fuzeon, the AIDS drug of last resort that has been successful in treating patients who no longer benefit from other drugs, for example, has been denied to ADAP patients in our nation&#039;s capital.

    * &quot;The Department of Health and Human Services Office of Inspector found that tens of millions of dollars were going unspent at the same time as patients languished on ADAP waiting lists.

    * &quot;Millions of dollars have been misspent on beachside junkets by AIDS executives and bureaucrats or lost to fraud and abuse.

    * &quot;Investigation by the Government Accountability Office found that the program was overpaying for many of the drugs it provided.&quot; 

&quot;These bureaucratic inefficiencies and mismanagement have literally cost lives,&quot; the unlikely Republican pairing summarized. &quot;The attractiveness of a public plan to ensure care for those with no insurance is understandable. But as we have seen with ADAP, a public health program is not a panacea.&quot;

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The Republicans&#039; appeal to the homosexual community – whose activists often take up the cause of advocating assistance for AIDS patients – has been met mostly with fierce criticism, in part because of Coburn&#039;s reputation on homosexual issues.

&quot;Of all the people to write an op-ed for The Advocate, why Tom Coburn?&quot; commented Jason Linkins of the Huffington Post. &quot;Coburn has opposed gay marriage, gay adoption and anonymous HIV testing, and he has called the &#039;gay agenda&#039; the &#039;greatest threat to our freedom that we face today.&#039;&quot;

In fact, the Human Rights Campaign, the largest national lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization, as recently as 2006 gave Coburn a zero rating on its scale of homosexual issues pending before the legislature.

Comments on The Advocate&#039;s website turned outright angry:

&quot;I can&#039;t figure out what&#039;s more repulsive, a gay &#039;leader&#039; teaming up with a loud-mouth ignorant bigot like Tom Coburn or the Advocate providing the two of them a platform,&quot; spouted a post from David La Fontaine, reportedly of Philadelphia.

David Hamburger, reportedly of Boston, added, &quot;Why would anyone listen to what a homophobe and gay traitor say about health care and HIV/AIDS? If the Republicans would actually support spending more money on HIV/AIDS and on health care in general, then we wouldn&#039;t have any of this rationing they&#039;re complaining about.&quot;

James Kirchick, a contributing writer to The Advocate, however, praised Barron for teaming with Coburn in making his appeal.

&quot;If there is to be progress in this country on gay rights,&quot; Kirchick wrote in the New Republic, &quot;Republicans, and conservative ones especially, are going to have to be a part of it.&quot;

Coburn and Barron concluded the op-ed by pointing out that RWCA and ADAP aren&#039;t the only government-run health care programs to suffer inefficiency.

&quot;Medicare only recently began offering seniors prescription drug coverage that had long been covered by private plans, and no one would claim that those in Medicaid are receiving the best possible care,&quot; the Republicans wrote. &quot;Indeed, 40 percent of doctors currently refuse to treat Medicaid patients. Medicare teeters on the verge of bankruptcy, Medicaid is bankrupting state budgets and both programs are rife with billions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse.&quot;

Instead of more government-run health care, the op-ed proposes prohibiting insurance companies from refusing customers with preexisting conditions, allowing all Americans the same choices of health care coverage enjoyed by members of Congress and passing the Patients&#039; Choice Act.

&quot;We can and should work to make sure that every man, woman and child in this country has access to quality, affordable health care,&quot; they conclude. &quot;We can do it without creating an inefficient and expensive government program, and we can do it in such a way that empowers individuals to take control of their own health care.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOCTOR&#8217;S ORDERS<br />
Republicans warn: Rationing medicine has already begun<br />
Obama extends health care act blamed for costing AIDS patients their lives<br />
Posted: October 30, 2009<br />
11:35 pm Eastern</p>
<p>By Drew Zahn<br />
© 2009 WorldNetDaily</p>
<p>Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.</p>
<p>President Obama today extended a federal AIDS program that an unlikely pair of Republicans – one blasted for being &#8220;anti-gay&#8221; and the other chairman of an organization for homosexual conservatives – criticized earlier this month as a foreshadow of the rationing and waiting lists sure to come if the U.S. adopts even more government-run health care programs.</p>
<p>In a ceremony this morning, Obama signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act, which continues a federal program that provides up to $2.5 billion annually in medication for AIDS patients.</p>
<p>The move was lauded by many homosexual advocates, including Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese, who called the extension a &#8220;tremendous step&#8221; on behalf of people with HIV and AIDS.</p>
<p>But in a joint opinion piece called &#8220;Govt.-Run Health Care Isn&#8217;t the Answer,&#8221; published in the online version of The Advocate, a leading homosexual magazine, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., and GOProud&#8217;s Christopher R. Barron warned the homosexual community that the Ryan White CARE Act has already demonstrated how government-run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.</p>
<p>Send Congress a message – no government health care, or you&#8217;re outta there – through WND&#8217;s exclusive &#8220;Send Congress a Pink Slip&#8221; campaign!</p>
<p>&#8220;The federal government will spend $15 billion on AIDS treatment alone this year,&#8221; wrote Coburn and Barron, &#8220;yet due to the inefficiencies of the public-run program, thousands will not receive appropriate care.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Republicans leveled a list of accusations against the government program Obama extended and the recipient of most of its spending, the AIDS Drug Assistance Program, or ADAP. They alleged:</p>
<p>    * &#8220;In recent years, two patients in West Virginia and five in Kentucky died while awaiting care on waiting lists for the RWCA AIDS Drug Assistance Program.</p>
<p>    * &#8220;Today there are 247 Americans on waiting lists for lifesaving AIDS drugs in eight states. The number is expected to reach 500 by Christmas.</p>
<p>    * &#8220;Many other ADAP patients, while receiving care, are being denied the best treatment. Fuzeon, the AIDS drug of last resort that has been successful in treating patients who no longer benefit from other drugs, for example, has been denied to ADAP patients in our nation&#8217;s capital.</p>
<p>    * &#8220;The Department of Health and Human Services Office of Inspector found that tens of millions of dollars were going unspent at the same time as patients languished on ADAP waiting lists.</p>
<p>    * &#8220;Millions of dollars have been misspent on beachside junkets by AIDS executives and bureaucrats or lost to fraud and abuse.</p>
<p>    * &#8220;Investigation by the Government Accountability Office found that the program was overpaying for many of the drugs it provided.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;These bureaucratic inefficiencies and mismanagement have literally cost lives,&#8221; the unlikely Republican pairing summarized. &#8220;The attractiveness of a public plan to ensure care for those with no insurance is understandable. But as we have seen with ADAP, a public health program is not a panacea.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Story continues below)</p>
<p>The Republicans&#8217; appeal to the homosexual community – whose activists often take up the cause of advocating assistance for AIDS patients – has been met mostly with fierce criticism, in part because of Coburn&#8217;s reputation on homosexual issues.</p>
<p>&#8220;Of all the people to write an op-ed for The Advocate, why Tom Coburn?&#8221; commented Jason Linkins of the Huffington Post. &#8220;Coburn has opposed gay marriage, gay adoption and anonymous HIV testing, and he has called the &#8216;gay agenda&#8217; the &#8216;greatest threat to our freedom that we face today.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, the Human Rights Campaign, the largest national lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization, as recently as 2006 gave Coburn a zero rating on its scale of homosexual issues pending before the legislature.</p>
<p>Comments on The Advocate&#8217;s website turned outright angry:</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t figure out what&#8217;s more repulsive, a gay &#8216;leader&#8217; teaming up with a loud-mouth ignorant bigot like Tom Coburn or the Advocate providing the two of them a platform,&#8221; spouted a post from David La Fontaine, reportedly of Philadelphia.</p>
<p>David Hamburger, reportedly of Boston, added, &#8220;Why would anyone listen to what a homophobe and gay traitor say about health care and HIV/AIDS? If the Republicans would actually support spending more money on HIV/AIDS and on health care in general, then we wouldn&#8217;t have any of this rationing they&#8217;re complaining about.&#8221;</p>
<p>James Kirchick, a contributing writer to The Advocate, however, praised Barron for teaming with Coburn in making his appeal.</p>
<p>&#8220;If there is to be progress in this country on gay rights,&#8221; Kirchick wrote in the New Republic, &#8220;Republicans, and conservative ones especially, are going to have to be a part of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coburn and Barron concluded the op-ed by pointing out that RWCA and ADAP aren&#8217;t the only government-run health care programs to suffer inefficiency.</p>
<p>&#8220;Medicare only recently began offering seniors prescription drug coverage that had long been covered by private plans, and no one would claim that those in Medicaid are receiving the best possible care,&#8221; the Republicans wrote. &#8220;Indeed, 40 percent of doctors currently refuse to treat Medicaid patients. Medicare teeters on the verge of bankruptcy, Medicaid is bankrupting state budgets and both programs are rife with billions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead of more government-run health care, the op-ed proposes prohibiting insurance companies from refusing customers with preexisting conditions, allowing all Americans the same choices of health care coverage enjoyed by members of Congress and passing the Patients&#8217; Choice Act.</p>
<p>&#8220;We can and should work to make sure that every man, woman and child in this country has access to quality, affordable health care,&#8221; they conclude. &#8220;We can do it without creating an inefficient and expensive government program, and we can do it in such a way that empowers individuals to take control of their own health care.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2891796</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Health Wars (All-Hallows Eve Eve Edition)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Beware.... &#160; &#160; Or, if you&#039;re not into cheezy horror genre theatrics, you can always wade down the list of new taxes in House BarryCare: Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5% of a......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Health Wars (All-Hallows Eve Eve Edition)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Beware&#8230;. &nbsp; &nbsp; Or, if you&#8217;re not into cheezy horror genre theatrics, you can always wade down the list of new taxes in House BarryCare: Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5% of a&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tmedlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmedlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get out from behind your keyboards and join Michelle Bachmann on the steps of the Capitol this Thursday, Nov. 5th at noon, for her press conference and Healthcare housecall on congress.  We will flood the halls of the congressional office buildings, seeking out our representatives to remind them that we are watching and that we don&#039;t like what we are seeing coming out of the backrooms, in the form of government takeover of healthcare. We&#039;re making it a day trip from NC.  A sick day to save our freedom. contact your local tea parties and 9-12 groups.  Be able to tell your kids and grandkids that you did everything possible, including a day off from work, to save their freedom.  Here&#039;s the clip of Rep. Bachmann&#039;s request.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8_XcSHHxDk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8_XcSHHxDk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get out from behind your keyboards and join Michelle Bachmann on the steps of the Capitol this Thursday, Nov. 5th at noon, for her press conference and Healthcare housecall on congress.  We will flood the halls of the congressional office buildings, seeking out our representatives to remind them that we are watching and that we don&#8217;t like what we are seeing coming out of the backrooms, in the form of government takeover of healthcare. We&#8217;re making it a day trip from NC.  A sick day to save our freedom. contact your local tea parties and 9-12 groups.  Be able to tell your kids and grandkids that you did everything possible, including a day off from work, to save their freedom.  Here&#8217;s the clip of Rep. Bachmann&#8217;s request.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8_XcSHHxDk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8_XcSHHxDk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As a direct comparison as to what these Democrat Communists want to accomplish:
Lets free all inmates of American prisons and let them control the law enforcement of the United States;
Then empty all the insane asylums and let them administer the mental health of all U. S. Citizens;
Turn over the U.S. economy to the Taliban for fiduciary responsibility;
Makes perfect sense to the Democrats!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As a direct comparison as to what these Democrat Communists want to accomplish:<br />
Lets free all inmates of American prisons and let them control the law enforcement of the United States;<br />
Then empty all the insane asylums and let them administer the mental health of all U. S. Citizens;<br />
Turn over the U.S. economy to the Taliban for fiduciary responsibility;<br />
Makes perfect sense to the Democrats!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Headlines Exposed 11/1/2009 — ExposeTheMedia.com</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2891474</link>
		<dc:creator>Headlines Exposed 11/1/2009 — ExposeTheMedia.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House ObamaCare Bill: Here Comes The Taxes! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2891473</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;First, they want to tax you so much you wish you were dead; Then the health care you get from these people will grant your wish! 
What more could you ask for?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>First, they want to tax you so much you wish you were dead; Then the health care you get from these people will grant your wish!<br />
What more could you ask for?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Dark-Star</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2890711</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Actually, Michelle Obama created and supervised a dump patients policy at a hospital she worked in Chicago.

rlwo2008 on October 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And now she wants (and may get) complete, uncontested government control of healthcare on a national basis. Wonderful.</description>
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<p>Actually, Michelle Obama created and supervised a dump patients policy at a hospital she worked in Chicago.</p>
<p>rlwo2008 on October 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM
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<p>And now she wants (and may get) complete, uncontested government control of healthcare on a national basis. Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: rlwo2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>rlwo2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Michelle Obama created and supervised a dump patients policy at a hospital she worked in Chicago.  Of course, those actions are probably sealed now just like your favorite jerk, Obama&#039;s records.  That&#039;s directed at leftists who troll here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Michelle Obama created and supervised a dump patients policy at a hospital she worked in Chicago.  Of course, those actions are probably sealed now just like your favorite jerk, Obama&#8217;s records.  That&#8217;s directed at leftists who troll here.</p>
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		<title>By: jodetoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodetoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\&quot;End of story\&quot; is an immature conclusion when there are other moral questions involved. 

The assumption that there is one moral way for a country to work, that you know it, and we are to be forced into it, is immoral, as well as incredibly egotistical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\&#8221;End of story\&#8221; is an immature conclusion when there are other moral questions involved. </p>
<p>The assumption that there is one moral way for a country to work, that you know it, and we are to be forced into it, is immoral, as well as incredibly egotistical.</p>
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		<title>By: Koa</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2890498</link>
		<dc:creator>Koa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have absolutely no interest in living in a country that feels no moral obligation regarding the health of its citizens.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I dont feel its a question of whether the Government &quot;feels&quot; a moral obligation to the health of its citizens or not. Its more a question of whether its Governments role to babysit its citizens or allow them to succeed or fail on their own. The citizens of this country should be able to survive without a government hand out and certainly will be better off without a &lt;strong&gt;forced&lt;/strong&gt; one. It is not Governments role to ensure 100% success or perfect health. The role is to step back and allow the citizen the choice to succeed or fail or propigate good health or waste away on his or her own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have absolutely no interest in living in a country that feels no moral obligation regarding the health of its citizens.
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<p>I dont feel its a question of whether the Government &#8220;feels&#8221; a moral obligation to the health of its citizens or not. Its more a question of whether its Governments role to babysit its citizens or allow them to succeed or fail on their own. The citizens of this country should be able to survive without a government hand out and certainly will be better off without a <strong>forced</strong> one. It is not Governments role to ensure 100% success or perfect health. The role is to step back and allow the citizen the choice to succeed or fail or propigate good health or waste away on his or her own.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark-Star</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2889834</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many of these poor souls are in this country legally?

Good Lt on October 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t matter in this case. 

Dumping hospital patients is &lt;em&gt;illegal &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;immoral&lt;/em&gt;. End of story. 

So is an insurance company dumping someone that paid them for years because some bean counter did the math and realized they&#039;d now be too expensive...but I suppose that&#039;s another argument for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many of these poor souls are in this country legally?</p>
<p>Good Lt on October 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter in this case. </p>
<p>Dumping hospital patients is <em>illegal </em>and <em>immoral</em>. End of story. </p>
<p>So is an insurance company dumping someone that paid them for years because some bean counter did the math and realized they&#8217;d now be too expensive&#8230;but I suppose that&#8217;s another argument for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Obama lie(no new taxes for...) come home to roost. This man has no honor and less integrity. At some point the people of this country have got to face that the man in the WH is one huge, gabby con artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Obama lie(no new taxes for&#8230;) come home to roost. This man has no honor and less integrity. At some point the people of this country have got to face that the man in the WH is one huge, gabby con artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care&#8230; &#171; Truth, Lies and In Between</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2889167</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Care&#8230; &#171; Truth, Lies and In Between</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House ObamaCare bill: Here comes the taxes! By Ed Morrissey  Americans for Tax Reform has culled the 1990-page Pelosi health-care overhaul bill to find the taxes that will supposedly collect over $540 billion in revenue over 10 years.  It’s quite an impressive list of new burdens on Americans and their health-care providers and producers — but that’s redundant.  After all, who do you think will end up paying for the medical-device taxes? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House ObamaCare bill: Here comes the taxes! By Ed Morrissey  Americans for Tax Reform has culled the 1990-page Pelosi health-care overhaul bill to find the taxes that will supposedly collect over $540 billion in revenue over 10 years.  It’s quite an impressive list of new burdens on Americans and their health-care providers and producers — but that’s redundant.  After all, who do you think will end up paying for the medical-device taxes? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now, the IRS can just ex post facto assume guilt and penalize the taxpayer.&quot;

An IRS audit is one situation where the American taxpayer&#039;s guilt has always been assumed. That is, it is implicit in an IRS audit that you have to prove your compliance with tax law.

And it is my perception that business expenses are often deemed not business related, and on a subjective basis.  And I think Congress gave the IRS the authority to make regulations a long time ago.

The pot with Frogs-Are-Us will boil over if the Dem-wits get their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, the IRS can just ex post facto assume guilt and penalize the taxpayer.&#8221;</p>
<p>An IRS audit is one situation where the American taxpayer&#8217;s guilt has always been assumed. That is, it is implicit in an IRS audit that you have to prove your compliance with tax law.</p>
<p>And it is my perception that business expenses are often deemed not business related, and on a subjective basis.  And I think Congress gave the IRS the authority to make regulations a long time ago.</p>
<p>The pot with Frogs-Are-Us will boil over if the Dem-wits get their way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz706</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz706</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s the same thing as Obamacare. Trust us.

AnninCA on October 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No it ain&#039;t Ann.

Tort reform would save 58-60 billion dollars in healthcare costs.  This is a direct counter to rising healthcare costs.

Allowing you to buy insurance out of state will allow larger pools to be formed, lowering insurance costs.  It also expands competition by expanding consumer choice.

Shifting the tax credit from employers to individuals would allow people the same buying power to purchase insurance as the employers, and allow people take their insurance with them when they change jobs.

The Obamacare idea is to FORCE people to pay an excise, or force people to buy insurance.  Obamacare then becomes a tax on breathing.

The Obamacare idea is to put up a public option that will bankrupt private insurers.  That&#039;s their idea of expanding &#039;competition&#039;: by erasing it.

The Obamacare idea is to raise taxes, decreasing the chance that anyone will be able to afford anything... private insurance included.

You are a fool, Ann, for saying that the two are the same.  You are ignorant for saying the only thing we offer is faith based.  Our plans have been put out but routinely ignored by the media, by the press, by the democrats, and by Obama.

I will say no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s the same thing as Obamacare. Trust us.</p>
<p>AnninCA on October 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>No it ain&#8217;t Ann.</p>
<p>Tort reform would save 58-60 billion dollars in healthcare costs.  This is a direct counter to rising healthcare costs.</p>
<p>Allowing you to buy insurance out of state will allow larger pools to be formed, lowering insurance costs.  It also expands competition by expanding consumer choice.</p>
<p>Shifting the tax credit from employers to individuals would allow people the same buying power to purchase insurance as the employers, and allow people take their insurance with them when they change jobs.</p>
<p>The Obamacare idea is to FORCE people to pay an excise, or force people to buy insurance.  Obamacare then becomes a tax on breathing.</p>
<p>The Obamacare idea is to put up a public option that will bankrupt private insurers.  That&#8217;s their idea of expanding &#8216;competition&#8217;: by erasing it.</p>
<p>The Obamacare idea is to raise taxes, decreasing the chance that anyone will be able to afford anything&#8230; private insurance included.</p>
<p>You are a fool, Ann, for saying that the two are the same.  You are ignorant for saying the only thing we offer is faith based.  Our plans have been put out but routinely ignored by the media, by the press, by the democrats, and by Obama.</p>
<p>I will say no more.</p>
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		<title>By: Always To The Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2887846</link>
		<dc:creator>Always To The Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Everyone Pays...&lt;/strong&gt;

House ObamaCare bill: Here comes the taxes!
Americans for Tax Reform
has culled the 1990-page Pelosi health-care overhaul bill to find the
taxes that will supposedly collect over $540 billion in revenue over 10
years.  It&#8217;s quite an......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Everyone Pays&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>House ObamaCare bill: Here comes the taxes!<br />
Americans for Tax Reform<br />
has culled the 1990-page Pelosi health-care overhaul bill to find the<br />
taxes that will supposedly collect over $540 billion in revenue over 10<br />
years.  It&#8217;s quite an&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Snooper Report</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2887737</link>
		<dc:creator>The Snooper Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;PelosiCare: A Curiously Unconstitutional &quot;Bill&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Let&#039;s see what&#039;s in the PelosiCare facade...
Two posts from blogprof, here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>PelosiCare: A Curiously Unconstitutional &#8220;Bill&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what&#8217;s in the PelosiCare facade&#8230;<br />
Two posts from blogprof, here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. ZhivBlago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. ZhivBlago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if they said we&#039;d all have to get neutered in order to control world population growth, then we&#039;d go and on and about how we&#039;re angry as hell, &quot;when they can pry it from my cold (and I suppose bloody) dead hands&quot;...and then roll over and give in anyway.

Ho-hum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if they said we&#8217;d all have to get neutered in order to control world population growth, then we&#8217;d go and on and about how we&#8217;re angry as hell, &#8220;when they can pry it from my cold (and I suppose bloody) dead hands&#8221;&#8230;and then roll over and give in anyway.</p>
<p>Ho-hum.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is their problem with Health Savings Account?

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2009 at 12:52 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can&#039;t take a chance on people bypassing government control.

This is a very useful reminder that Obama&#039;s not the only fascist in DC.  We&#039;d better take back Washington in 2010, or it&#039;ll be too late for the next president to repair the damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is their problem with Health Savings Account?</p>
<p>Cindy Munford on October 30, 2009 at 12:52 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You can&#8217;t take a chance on people bypassing government control.</p>
<p>This is a very useful reminder that Obama&#8217;s not the only fascist in DC.  We&#8217;d better take back Washington in 2010, or it&#8217;ll be too late for the next president to repair the damage.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When statist policies get imposed, everyone pays.  Everyone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When statist policies get imposed, everyone pays.  Everyone.</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: PelosiCARE &#8211; 1990 pages long! Plus comprehensive list of taxes &#124; Fire Andrea Mitchell!</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/house-obamacare-bill-here-comes-the-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-2887423</link>
		<dc:creator>PelosiCARE &#8211; 1990 pages long! Plus comprehensive list of taxes &#124; Fire Andrea Mitchell!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is 1990 PAGES! But wait, thats not all! According to Americans for Tax Reform, this beast contains thirteen new tax hikes. It also pays for Abortions, Cuts Medicare, Raises Fees, and the Deficit. The bill also contains [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is 1990 PAGES! But wait, thats not all! According to Americans for Tax Reform, this beast contains thirteen new tax hikes. It also pays for Abortions, Cuts Medicare, Raises Fees, and the Deficit. The bill also contains [...]</p>
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