Fox News poll: America hates Congress; Update: Biden to campaign for Owens

posted at 4:16 pm on October 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

The partisan split among the sample is a little narrower than usual — 40/37 between Democrats and Republicans — but never mind that. Focus on independents.

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Congressional Dems rate slightly higher than Repubs (36/29), but never mind that either. The more this becomes an anti-incumbency movement, the more the majority party will suffer. Further to that point, read Ruffini’s counter-Gingrichian advice to the GOP to follow Doug Hoffman’s lead and run conservative candidates next year as stealth independents in select areas. It’s a crafty idea for blue districts where the GOP has virtually no chance anyway; anywhere else and it’s suicidal.

If you’re a party person, don’t dismiss this just yet. Say you’re the NRCC and you haven’t found a good recruit against a vulnerable House Democrat. Say the Republican nominee is a joke, or the incumbent is unopposed. Three months out, you go to your star recruit who turned you down a year ago and ask him to run as an independent. It’s a three month campaign as opposed to an 18-month campaign. They don’t have to quit their law practice or small business. They enter in the last few miles of the race, and you put serious pressure on the joke nominee to step aside, or put out word through local media and talk radio that this is the guy…

In a handful of races, perhaps in places where we can’t win with the Republican label alone, it might be more useful for the general election to be a strong Independent versus a Democrat rather than a Republican versus a Democrat. At one extreme of the Cook PVI, let’s stipulate that the general election against Charlie Rangel was waged with a Puerto Rican small business owner running on the No More Corrupt Politicians Party line with behind the scenes, logistical support from the GOP. At a minimum, that person would stand a better chance than a Republican in that district.

Maybe, or maybe he’d bleed enough support from the Democratic incumbent to clear the way for an upset by the centrist Republican nominee. If the RNC has the resources to back two candidates and there’s little chance of it backfiring, why not?

Speaking of conservative independents, here’s the latest set of attack ads from NY-23. Notice anyone missing? I think that Pataki endorsement was basically the last rites for Team Dede. Exit quotation: “The bottom has dropped out on her. She can’t win it.”

Update: The race is close enough that Greasy Joe himself is headed to upstate New York on Monday for an eleventh-hour rally. Um, didn’t we learn just this week that people don’t like him?

The Biden event comes the day before the special election, which has turned into a two-way contest between Owens and a third-party Conservative challenger, Doug Hoffman, who has captured the momentum in the race in the last several days.

It’s the second time Biden has campaigned for Owens – he went up to Syracuse in September to fundraise for him. And Obama headlined a New York City fundraiser for Owens last week.

For Owens to win, he needs to gin up the Democratic base in the upstate New York district to show up at the polls — voters who don’t normally turn out for off-year elections.

If New Jersey was in the bag, they probably wouldn’t be worried about the results in NY-23. The fact that they’re sending the vice president speaks volumes.

Meanwhile, Michael Steele says that if Hoffman wins, he’ll support his bid for reelection as a Republican next year.


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It’s so easy to hate
Preview is my friend.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM

America never liked congress. It was established by our founders as the least of all evils. They knew it would become corrupt and unfocused.

But nonetheless, thanks for making sure you would screw it up the fastest you can.

What’s not to like about congress?

/bottleinfrontofme

obleo on October 30, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Let’s remember, it is Congress who hates us more.

TXUS on October 30, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Update: The race is close enough that Greasy Joe himself is headed to upstate New York on Monday for an eleventh-hour rally.

I hope they send Grayson to help Crazy Joe out with the cheerleading. They should have the crazy brothers travelling together. Heck, I’d show up to a rally to see Crazy Joe and Insane Grayson working the stage. I’d run a pool to see who eats the mike, first.

progressoverpeace on October 30, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Let’s remember, it is Congress who hates us more.

TXUS on October 30, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Let’s remember is right. This should be close to top priority in things to remember right now.

obleo on October 30, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Gee, how does one feel when those entrusted with your welfare turn on you. Kinda like family stabing you in the back.

obleo on October 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Meanwhile, Michael Steele says that if Hoffman wins, he’ll support his bid for reelection as a Republican next year.

If Hoffman wins as an Independent, why in the world would he want to run as a Republican?

Mr. Grump on October 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Am I reading that right? Are they threatening to withhold “incentives” (cash) from any state that enacts “tort reform” on their own? What other alternative could there possibly be for Medical liability litigation?

Would be nice to see the citizens of said states threatening to withhold tax revenue from Washington.

jimmy2shoes on October 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Well of course they’re sending Biden to the Syracuse area to work for Owens. Joe’s an expert in cheating in the Syracuse area.

jon1979 on October 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Biden held a fundraiser for the DNC in South Florida this week-

“About 60 people attended the event. Ticket prices were $1,000, $10,000 and $30,000.”

They didn’t say how much they raised, but I wonder if anyone paid over $1000.

60 people…what a crowd!

djn on October 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Sarah Palin could attract 60 people in the peanut butter aisle at Winn Dixie before she decided between creamy or crunchy.

jimmy2shoes on October 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Biden’s trip tells me that there is a distinct possibility that we may have a trifecta in the works. Can you imagine the cloud if Christie, McDonnell AND Hoffman win? I know that the chances or it are slim but I’d say that 2 out three (NY win and a NJ loss most likely) ain’t bad. If Christie somehow squeaks this out that would be the worst outcome for Bammers given the time that he’s spending the boost Corzine.

volnation on October 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Meanwhile, Michael Steele says that if Hoffman wins, he’ll support his bid for reelection as a Republican next year.

Well, isn’t that big of him. The proper answer, Mr. Steele is that you are sorry that the selection process fell down so far that the GOP is represented by a pro-abortion, pro-card check, advocate of higher taxes and Obamacare.

I like you Mike but you are no Lee Atwater.

highhopes on October 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I’m an Independent and I would vote for Hoffman if I was in New York..what doesn’t the GOP not get about “Fed Up To Here Already” ?

Dr Evil on October 30, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Go Biden!! Just keep that mouth flappin!!!!

mobydutch on October 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM

The more this becomes an anti-incumbency movement, the more the majority party will suffer

I dont read it that way.

The poll shows Democrats are far more likely to support their own representative than Republicans or Independents. Hell,, Democrats re-elect a man who drowns a woman and another who runs a gay whorehouse out of his basement.

So, the more it becomes an anti-incumbency movement, the more it becomes an anti-Republican movement.

Indeed, it seems whenever Democrats are in power and unpopular it ALWAYS becomes an anti-incumbent, “throw the bums out” movement. Because liberals, particularly libs in the media, work to make that the narrative on purpose!

American Elephant on October 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Easy on Steele. Praise him for wanting to work with DH rather than digging in heels stubbornly ala Newt.

In addition, Hoffman was on Hewitt’s radio show a day or two ago and flat out said he would run again in 2010 as a Republican.

KittyLowrey on October 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM

I’m in Texas, but I’m pulling for Hoffman.

madmonkphotog on October 30, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Where do I get a Nancy Pelosi halloween mask?

Cybergeezer on October 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM

All I get from this poll is that Dems have their heads up their asses more than anyone else.

Of course they think their member of congress should be voted back in, they like the wacko crap they are trying to push.

Rbastid on October 30, 2009 at 8:23 PM

110% of Acorn registered voters polled say they will vote for the Dem incumbent 3 times in 2010.

angryed on October 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM

The beginning of the elected conservative revolution.

tatersalad on October 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Vote the bums out!

MCGIRV on October 30, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Meanwhile, Michael Steele says that if Hoffman wins, he’ll support his bid for reelection as a Republican next year.
If Hoffman wins as an Independent, why in the world would he want to run as a Republican?

Mr. Grump on October 30, 2009

He continues to assert that he is a Republican. If he wins I’m confident he will run for reelection as an (R). This will be a good thing as long as he holds to conservatism and doesn’t wimp out and bend to the party elites.

SKYFOX on October 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM

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