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		<title>By: COACHEP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Posts about Obama Health Care Failure as of October 30, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>COACHEP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Posts about Obama Health Care Failure as of October 30, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reform, lou dobbs, obamacare, public option Lou Dobbs Show October 29. Be the first to comment!   Video: The very private unveiling of the Pelosi public option - hotair.com 10/29/2009 Excuse me, the competitive option.  This comes from a source on Capitol [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reform, lou dobbs, obamacare, public option Lou Dobbs Show October 29. Be the first to comment!   Video: The very private unveiling of the Pelosi public option &#8211; hotair.com 10/29/2009 Excuse me, the competitive option.  This comes from a source on Capitol [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ya2daup</title>
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		<dc:creator>ya2daup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1,900+ pages? What&#039;s the carbon footprint of this monstrosity? Did they file an environmental impact statement before releasing this ginormous turd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,900+ pages? What&#8217;s the carbon footprint of this monstrosity? Did they file an environmental impact statement before releasing this ginormous turd?</p>
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		<title>By: ya2daup</title>
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		<dc:creator>ya2daup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lorien1973 on October 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I haven&#039;t visited Instapundit to check for attribution, but this is taken from Daniel Henninger&#039;s column entitled &quot;Obama and the Old Hat People&quot; in today&#039;s WSJ. The whole piece is well worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lorien1973 on October 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I haven&#8217;t visited Instapundit to check for attribution, but this is taken from Daniel Henninger&#8217;s column entitled &#8220;Obama and the Old Hat People&#8221; in today&#8217;s WSJ. The whole piece is well worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: bluegrass</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluegrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this at instapundit today:

In a world defined by nearly 100,000 iPhone apps, a world of seemingly limitless, self-defined choice, the Democrats are pushing the biggest, fattest, one-size-fits all legislation since 1965. And they brag this will complete the dream Franklin D. Roosevelt had in 1939.
lorien1973 on October 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM






The only dream this will fulfill is the &quot; Nightmare on Elm Street &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this at instapundit today:</p>
<p>In a world defined by nearly 100,000 iPhone apps, a world of seemingly limitless, self-defined choice, the Democrats are pushing the biggest, fattest, one-size-fits all legislation since 1965. And they brag this will complete the dream Franklin D. Roosevelt had in 1939.<br />
lorien1973 on October 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM</p>
<p>The only dream this will fulfill is the &#8221; Nightmare on Elm Street &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: landlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>landlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;IF THIS MORE-OUTRAGEOUS THAN EVER &quot;HEALTH CARE&quot; BILL PASSES:&lt;/strong&gt;

1. &lt;strong&gt;This bill will end employment in the USA&lt;/strong&gt;, because no employer can afford the taxes and regulations.  This includes big employers, because they will not be able to force their employees into this thing and because they will not be able to afford the fines for not forcing their employees into it.  It also includes small employers because they will not be able to put up with the constant harassment from the IRS and other government snoops.

2. &lt;strong&gt;Citizens will quickly discover that being a non-citizen is much less expensive&lt;/strong&gt;.  They will adapt in imaginative ways.

3. &lt;strong&gt;The underground economy will mushroom&lt;/strong&gt; and take over as the primary economy in the USA.  Virtually all commerce will become &quot;cash only.&quot;  Internet sales will all be conducted from outside the USA.

4. &lt;strong&gt;Seventh Day Adventists and other sects which have a &quot;religious exemption&quot; will suddenly gain tens of millions of new &quot;members&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;.

5. &lt;strong&gt;Hospitals will collapse&lt;/strong&gt;.  The government will &quot;rescue&quot; (seize) them, leading to a mass resignation of doctors and other health care providers.

6. &lt;strong&gt;A &quot;health care underground&quot; will spring up&lt;/strong&gt;, complete with &quot;cash only&quot; services (just like the &quot;Speak-Easy&quot; establishments of the Prohibition era), appointments-by-referral-only, and an elaborate drug smuggling network.  

7. &lt;strong&gt;Pharmacies will collapse&lt;/strong&gt; and convert to general stores which carry only over-the-counter drugs.  It will become nearly impossible to fill a prescription without using the &quot;health care underground&quot; or traveling to Mexico.

8. &lt;strong&gt;The dollar will be devalued&lt;/strong&gt; by a minimum of 13.4% (=2.9% existing Medicare tax + 8% new employer tax + 2.5% new employee tax) to compensate for the portion of every dollar which will be wasted on a health care system which doesn&#039;t work, nobody wants, and nobody can access.

&lt;strong&gt;In summary: &lt;em&gt;The government will tax everyone to death in order to pay for &quot;free&quot; health care.  But with only a government health insurance policy in hand, nobody will be able to find a health care provider willing to work for what the government will pay them.  There will be no such thing as &quot;Employment.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>IF THIS MORE-OUTRAGEOUS THAN EVER &#8220;HEALTH CARE&#8221; BILL PASSES:</strong></p>
<p>1. <strong>This bill will end employment in the USA</strong>, because no employer can afford the taxes and regulations.  This includes big employers, because they will not be able to force their employees into this thing and because they will not be able to afford the fines for not forcing their employees into it.  It also includes small employers because they will not be able to put up with the constant harassment from the IRS and other government snoops.</p>
<p>2. <strong>Citizens will quickly discover that being a non-citizen is much less expensive</strong>.  They will adapt in imaginative ways.</p>
<p>3. <strong>The underground economy will mushroom</strong> and take over as the primary economy in the USA.  Virtually all commerce will become &#8220;cash only.&#8221;  Internet sales will all be conducted from outside the USA.</p>
<p>4. <strong>Seventh Day Adventists and other sects which have a &#8220;religious exemption&#8221; will suddenly gain tens of millions of new &#8220;members&#8221;</strong>.</p>
<p>5. <strong>Hospitals will collapse</strong>.  The government will &#8220;rescue&#8221; (seize) them, leading to a mass resignation of doctors and other health care providers.</p>
<p>6. <strong>A &#8220;health care underground&#8221; will spring up</strong>, complete with &#8220;cash only&#8221; services (just like the &#8220;Speak-Easy&#8221; establishments of the Prohibition era), appointments-by-referral-only, and an elaborate drug smuggling network.  </p>
<p>7. <strong>Pharmacies will collapse</strong> and convert to general stores which carry only over-the-counter drugs.  It will become nearly impossible to fill a prescription without using the &#8220;health care underground&#8221; or traveling to Mexico.</p>
<p>8. <strong>The dollar will be devalued</strong> by a minimum of 13.4% (=2.9% existing Medicare tax + 8% new employer tax + 2.5% new employee tax) to compensate for the portion of every dollar which will be wasted on a health care system which doesn&#8217;t work, nobody wants, and nobody can access.</p>
<p><strong>In summary: <em>The government will tax everyone to death in order to pay for &#8220;free&#8221; health care.  But with only a government health insurance policy in hand, nobody will be able to find a health care provider willing to work for what the government will pay them.  There will be no such thing as &#8220;Employment.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the bill is written by Pelosi, then it is written in Pig Latin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the bill is written by Pelosi, then it is written in Pig Latin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;jdkchem on October 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh hell &lt;strong&gt;no&lt;/strong&gt; I did not vote for Obama.  I am ashamed to say that I set aside my principles, held my nose and voted for the TR progressives in the race (aka McCain-Palin) rather than Barr or a Ron Paul write-in.

&quot;Rewrite history?&quot;  It is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>jdkchem on October 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh hell <strong>no</strong> I did not vote for Obama.  I am ashamed to say that I set aside my principles, held my nose and voted for the TR progressives in the race (aka McCain-Palin) rather than Barr or a Ron Paul write-in.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rewrite history?&#8221;  It is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: jdkchem</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdkchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rae on October 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Furthermore, before you spew more nonsense about how so and so should have done whatever you conjure up.  Explain how conservatives could have ever passed free market options in congress?  Any bill would have been dead.  If you cannot fathom that reality how often have conservatives tried to privatize social security and had that free market option shot down?  While your at it who exactly is responsible for easy credit?  Did Bush sign the CRA?  Did Bush stop regulation of freddie-mac?  Why don&#039;t you educate everyone how law enforcement was a far better anti-terrorism strategy.

Have you been an idiot residing in fantasy-land all of your life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rae on October 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Furthermore, before you spew more nonsense about how so and so should have done whatever you conjure up.  Explain how conservatives could have ever passed free market options in congress?  Any bill would have been dead.  If you cannot fathom that reality how often have conservatives tried to privatize social security and had that free market option shot down?  While your at it who exactly is responsible for easy credit?  Did Bush sign the CRA?  Did Bush stop regulation of freddie-mac?  Why don&#8217;t you educate everyone how law enforcement was a far better anti-terrorism strategy.</p>
<p>Have you been an idiot residing in fantasy-land all of your life?</p>
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		<title>By: jdkchem</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdkchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rae on October 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you voted for Obama and like your dear leader blame anyone but yourself and rewrite history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rae on October 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>So you voted for Obama and like your dear leader blame anyone but yourself and rewrite history.</p>
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		<title>By: karl9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MOAB Option

(Mother Of All BOHICAs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MOAB Option</p>
<p>(Mother Of All BOHICAs)</p>
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		<title>By: jodetoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodetoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anecdotal evidence of an option we will NOT have:

during a recent minor surgery I asked both my family doctor and the surgeon what impact the passage of a bill would have on their practices.

My family doctor said she would hold out for a while, but probably end up returning to her home country, the Philippines, to practice.

The surgeon said he would retire.

I&#039;m in a small rural area, with few doctors.  The loss of these 2 would mean obvious problems, and probably other doctors around here are considering their options. 

Doubt it would be much different anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecdotal evidence of an option we will NOT have:</p>
<p>during a recent minor surgery I asked both my family doctor and the surgeon what impact the passage of a bill would have on their practices.</p>
<p>My family doctor said she would hold out for a while, but probably end up returning to her home country, the Philippines, to practice.</p>
<p>The surgeon said he would retire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in a small rural area, with few doctors.  The loss of these 2 would mean obvious problems, and probably other doctors around here are considering their options. </p>
<p>Doubt it would be much different anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: freeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>freeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The STFU And Go Stand In Line Option!

txag92 on October 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Winner and +1,000

The only thing left to do now is pray hard the Blue Dawgs and our RINOS take a stand for America, Americans, the last beacon of democracy and defeat this behemoth. I have emailed and tea partied and phone called all I can. What is there left to do other than to pray?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The STFU And Go Stand In Line Option!</p>
<p>txag92 on October 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM
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<p>Winner and +1,000</p>
<p>The only thing left to do now is pray hard the Blue Dawgs and our RINOS take a stand for America, Americans, the last beacon of democracy and defeat this behemoth. I have emailed and tea partied and phone called all I can. What is there left to do other than to pray?</p>
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		<title>By: pilamaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilamaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.....unquestionably.....without a doubt.....

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;THE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; WORST SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!

EVER!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely&#8230;..unquestionably&#8230;..without a doubt&#8230;..</p>
<p><em><strong>THE</strong></em> WORST SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!</p>
<p>EVER!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the GOP peed away their majority on their Misunderestimated Mesopotamian Misadventures, assaults on the Bill of Rights, NCLB, and expanding Medicare, hm?

They could have implemented free market solutions in health care, protected our liberties rather than undermine them, gotten a handle on the insane borrowing, spending and printing, easy credit, &quot;ownership society,&quot; &quot;New Economy,&quot; and fought the enemy within, but &lt;em&gt;noooo&lt;/em&gt;.  Preemptive perpetual nation-building wars in the ME was more important to the Bush tools.  Still is, oddly enough!

Thanks again, &quot;conservatives.&quot;  I hope &quot;spreading democracy&quot; to a bunch of backward tribalists was worth losing our republic over.

Between the domestic interventionists on the left, and the foreign interventionists on the right, and all bipartisanship in between, we&#039;ll be going the way of the Roman empire sooner rather than later.  The only question is whether the fall results in a return to our Constitutional principles, or the US descends into totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the GOP peed away their majority on their Misunderestimated Mesopotamian Misadventures, assaults on the Bill of Rights, NCLB, and expanding Medicare, hm?</p>
<p>They could have implemented free market solutions in health care, protected our liberties rather than undermine them, gotten a handle on the insane borrowing, spending and printing, easy credit, &#8220;ownership society,&#8221; &#8220;New Economy,&#8221; and fought the enemy within, but <em>noooo</em>.  Preemptive perpetual nation-building wars in the ME was more important to the Bush tools.  Still is, oddly enough!</p>
<p>Thanks again, &#8220;conservatives.&#8221;  I hope &#8220;spreading democracy&#8221; to a bunch of backward tribalists was worth losing our republic over.</p>
<p>Between the domestic interventionists on the left, and the foreign interventionists on the right, and all bipartisanship in between, we&#8217;ll be going the way of the Roman empire sooner rather than later.  The only question is whether the fall results in a return to our Constitutional principles, or the US descends into totalitarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silence, you peons! The Central Committee has spoken! Back to your hovels before we set the dogs on you.</description>
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		<title>By: snaggletoothie</title>
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		<dc:creator>snaggletoothie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaker Pelosi&#039;s goal is to provide high quality, affordable health care to all members of Congress and the the illusion of health care to many other Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaker Pelosi&#8217;s goal is to provide high quality, affordable health care to all members of Congress and the the illusion of health care to many other Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dukehoopsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dukehoopsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real rub here is that none of these puffed up self-aggrandizing demagogues will have to endure this nightmare.  They are exempt and have their own special &quot;cadillac&quot; health care.

Pitchforks and torches anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real rub here is that none of these puffed up self-aggrandizing demagogues will have to endure this nightmare.  They are exempt and have their own special &#8220;cadillac&#8221; health care.</p>
<p>Pitchforks and torches anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: BobMbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobMbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So taxpayer dollars will be used for some abortions.

NTWR on October 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This was my first search too.  No need to read any further.

D.O.A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So taxpayer dollars will be used for some abortions.</p>
<p>NTWR on October 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>This was my first search too.  No need to read any further.</p>
<p>D.O.A.</p>
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		<title>By: neuquenguy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883650</link>
		<dc:creator>neuquenguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t help thinking that doctors and patients who can swing it will work outside of this system. Wealthy patients will look for catastrophic coverage, while standing ready to pay for day-to-day care out of pocket. Sure, they may owe a penalty, but somehow they’ll make it work financially. 


BuckeyeSam on October 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I wouldn&#039;t count on it. They&#039;ll simple raise the penalties to impossible levels. Their goal is single-payer and they will do whatever it takes to get it. Even if the ultra rich are willing to pay riduculous penalties, the new battle cry of the left will be that it is not fair that some can afford whatever medical care they want while the &quot;middle class&quot; has no choice but government healthcare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can’t help thinking that doctors and patients who can swing it will work outside of this system. Wealthy patients will look for catastrophic coverage, while standing ready to pay for day-to-day care out of pocket. Sure, they may owe a penalty, but somehow they’ll make it work financially. </p>
<p>BuckeyeSam on October 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t count on it. They&#8217;ll simple raise the penalties to impossible levels. Their goal is single-payer and they will do whatever it takes to get it. Even if the ultra rich are willing to pay riduculous penalties, the new battle cry of the left will be that it is not fair that some can afford whatever medical care they want while the &#8220;middle class&#8221; has no choice but government healthcare.</p>
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		<title>By: d1carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>d1carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government run health care as long as Nanzi invites you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government run health care as long as Nanzi invites you.</p>
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883640</link>
		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems as good a time as any to pass along the email I got the other day.


&gt; Dear All 535 voting members of the Legislature.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; It is now official:  
&gt; 
&gt; The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775 - you have had 234 years to get it right; 
&gt; it is broke.
&gt; 
&gt; Social Security was established in 1935 - you have had 74 years to get it right; 
&gt; it is broke.
&gt; 
&gt; Fannie Mae was established in 1938 - you have had 71 years to get it right; 
&gt; it is broke.. 
&gt;  
&gt; Department of Education started in 1980 under President Carter.  You have had 29 years to improve education.  Study after study shows our education system has gone down hill under federal government control: It is a failure.
&gt; 
&gt; War on Poverty started in 1964 - you have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to &quot;the poor&quot;; it hasn&#039;t worked. They are as poor now as they were then.
&gt; 
&gt; Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965 - you&#039;ve had 44 years to get it right; they&#039;re broke.
&gt; 
&gt; Freddie Mac was established in 1970 - you have had 39 years to get it right; it is broke. 
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; Trillions of dollars in the massive political payoff called the TARP bill of 2009 shows NO sign of working.
&gt; 
&gt; And finally to set a new record:
&gt; 
&gt; &quot;Cash for Clunkers&quot; was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009!  It took good dependable cars (that were the best some people could afford) replaced them with high priced (people who couldn&#039;t afford to are now making payments) mostly Japanese models so a good percentage of the profits, from the sales, went out of the country.  And lastly, the American taxpayers are now going to be dinged with paying for yet 3 billion more dollars of our governments experiments to make our wallets even thinner.
&gt; 
&gt; So with a perfect 100% failure rate and a record that proves that &quot;services&quot; you shove down our throats are failing faster and faster, you want Americans to believe you can be trusted with a government-run health care system?  15% of our economy?  Are you for real?
&gt; 
&gt; Truly, the inmates are running the asylum!  And what does this say about voters who put such  in office?  Maybe we need to let others in on this brilliant record before 2010 and just vote against incumbents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems as good a time as any to pass along the email I got the other day.</p>
<p>&gt; Dear All 535 voting members of the Legislature.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It is now official:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775 &#8211; you have had 234 years to get it right;<br />
&gt; it is broke.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Social Security was established in 1935 &#8211; you have had 74 years to get it right;<br />
&gt; it is broke.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Fannie Mae was established in 1938 &#8211; you have had 71 years to get it right;<br />
&gt; it is broke..<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Department of Education started in 1980 under President Carter.  You have had 29 years to improve education.  Study after study shows our education system has gone down hill under federal government control: It is a failure.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; War on Poverty started in 1964 &#8211; you have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to &#8220;the poor&#8221;; it hasn&#8217;t worked. They are as poor now as they were then.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965 &#8211; you&#8217;ve had 44 years to get it right; they&#8217;re broke.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Freddie Mac was established in 1970 &#8211; you have had 39 years to get it right; it is broke.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Trillions of dollars in the massive political payoff called the TARP bill of 2009 shows NO sign of working.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; And finally to set a new record:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &#8220;Cash for Clunkers&#8221; was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009!  It took good dependable cars (that were the best some people could afford) replaced them with high priced (people who couldn&#8217;t afford to are now making payments) mostly Japanese models so a good percentage of the profits, from the sales, went out of the country.  And lastly, the American taxpayers are now going to be dinged with paying for yet 3 billion more dollars of our governments experiments to make our wallets even thinner.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; So with a perfect 100% failure rate and a record that proves that &#8220;services&#8221; you shove down our throats are failing faster and faster, you want Americans to believe you can be trusted with a government-run health care system?  15% of our economy?  Are you for real?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Truly, the inmates are running the asylum!  And what does this say about voters who put such  in office?  Maybe we need to let others in on this brilliant record before 2010 and just vote against incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: SouperConservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883634</link>
		<dc:creator>SouperConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who determines what medical evidence is “valid”? Will it be like the “consensus” among scientists that Man Made Global warming is fact?

NTWR on October 29, 2009 at 1:39 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;



You are on the right track; Al Gore, the inventor of the internet, will also determine which medical procedures are necessary and unnecessary.


And the name of this beautiful piece of legislation is The I-Got-Elected-to-Congress-So-I-Know-What-Is-Best-For-You-But-I-Don&#039;t-Have-To-Use-It Plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who determines what medical evidence is “valid”? Will it be like the “consensus” among scientists that Man Made Global warming is fact?</p>
<p>NTWR on October 29, 2009 at 1:39 PM
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<p>You are on the right track; Al Gore, the inventor of the internet, will also determine which medical procedures are necessary and unnecessary.</p>
<p>And the name of this beautiful piece of legislation is The I-Got-Elected-to-Congress-So-I-Know-What-Is-Best-For-You-But-I-Don&#8217;t-Have-To-Use-It Plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883630</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Excuse me, the competitive option. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;Consumer option
BadgerHawk on October 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er, uh I thought it was the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Co-op&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; option?  I&#039;m so confused, what are the dems goin t call it next week?  May I suggest the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;bend over and take it option&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; or perhaps the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;hurry up and die option&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; or maybe the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;you&#039;re too old so just die already&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; option?  

Any other commentors on HA have any suggestions for more public option names?  Personally I prefer the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;not on your life option&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; but please feel free to add on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Excuse me, the competitive option. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Consumer option<br />
BadgerHawk on October 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Er, uh I thought it was the <strong>&#8220;Co-op&#8221;</strong> option?  I&#8217;m so confused, what are the dems goin t call it next week?  May I suggest the <strong>&#8220;bend over and take it option&#8221;</strong> or perhaps the <strong>&#8220;hurry up and die option&#8221;</strong> or maybe the <strong>&#8220;you&#8217;re too old so just die already&#8221;</strong> option?  </p>
<p>Any other commentors on HA have any suggestions for more public option names?  Personally I prefer the <strong>&#8220;not on your life option&#8221;</strong> but please feel free to add on!</p>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883623</link>
		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the &lt;em&gt;competitive option &lt;/em&gt;drives insurers out of the health care market and ensures absolutely no competition to the de facto single-payer system &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Socialists were really really just been warming up the propaganda machine before.  

It is now officially 1984.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the <em>competitive option </em>drives insurers out of the health care market and ensures absolutely no competition to the de facto single-payer system </p></blockquote>
<p>The Socialists were really really just been warming up the propaganda machine before.  </p>
<p>It is now officially 1984.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelosi&#8217;s Bunker Mentality &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/29/video-the-very-private-unveiling-of-the-pelosi-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-2883615</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelosi&#8217;s Bunker Mentality &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her new public-option (doublegoodspeaked to &#8220;consumer option&#8221;) healthcare bill, Pelosi closed the doors to the public.  She has a history of doing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her new public-option (doublegoodspeaked to &#8220;consumer option&#8221;) healthcare bill, Pelosi closed the doors to the public.  She has a history of doing [...]</p>
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