If you actually want to accomplish lower costs, probably the best route would be a single-payer system.

AnninCA on October 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM

So you think that creating a government-run monopoly results in lower costs?

Fine. Give us an example. Give us ONE real-world example in which a government-run monopoly resulted in lower costs than could be found from competition in the private sector.

Just one.

Do it.

But if you can’t, doesn’t that tell you something?

All this basically does, is create a new medicare plan, and force everyone on it , eventually. We already pay for medicare, and medicaid thru taxes. This is just one more added tax, and when congress needs to dip their sticky fingers into the till, to fund some other bogus program, or fund some dumb ear mark….they will feel free to borrow, and we get the bill.

I’m sick, and tired of this dreck. I need to find the combined amounts insurance companies pay, for our doctor, and hospital , and health care needs…and compare that to this 900 billion cost (which is a lie), and then wonder…why it cost so much to insure the so called 40 million? This is rediculous!

KILL THIS BILL!!!

Love that guy with the bullhorn.

Oathkeepers, we need you, the Constitution is under assault.

And so is Peloser’s government rationed healthcare any different?

Neither are Constitutional … And real Americans will stand from either.

Thank you,

ol

Let the lie-counting begin!

How do you fight a Congressional majority that willing to stand before the cameras and the people and simply lie their azzes off?Griz on October 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM

That’s all they have, if they were honest, as in:
Hey, we want to control your healthcare because we want to control YOU,
There would be howls of protests everywhere.
So they have to LIE, playing name games, “consumer option” instead of  “public option”.
Lib or Progressive instead of Socialist or Statist.They really do need to answer the question: Why do they have to LIE If this is so great for us unwashed masses?

The problem with our system is that we expect insurance to pay for everything and cost nothing.

Imagine how much more your auto insurance would cost if it had to cover oil changes, brake pads, fluids, clutch, new tires, CAR WASHES. That’s the equivalent of what people demand from health insurance. . . that’s why it’s too expensive.

I WANT it to hurt. PAINFULLY. EXCRUCIATINGLY. and the sooner the better. I want it all to be caused by the democrats. 100%. If people feel this next year, then November 2010 will be a bloodbath. I don’t just want them to be voted out… I want them to barely escape with their lives.

When the adults get back in charge Pelosicare can be dismanted.

If you actually want to accomplish lower costs, probably the best route would be a single-payer system.

What if that ‘single payer’ decides a new treatment isn’t worth the cost? That’s the problem if you don’t have choice, it is a monopoly.

It sounds good (like world peace), but it doesn’t work. It will always end up with rationing and denying care because the single payer won’t pay. If you only have a single payer that doesn’t pay, that limits the availability of new innovative cures.

The government will eventually ‘reduce costs’ by not paying the providers. So providers will stop providing care. We’ll have ‘single payer’ but it will be all pay and no care.