Pelosi backs off Medicare rates in “consumer option”
posted at 9:30 am on October 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Nancy Pelosi and the House Democratic Caucus will unveil their version of ObamaCare this morning, and the New York Times reports some significant changes made in the last few days. First, the “public option,” which had changed to the quasi-Orwellian name of “competitive option,” now goes the full 1984 to the “consumer option.” Gone, though, is the reliance on Medicare rates for the government-funded coverage plan, as moderate Democrats from rural districts insisted that hospitals would go out of business:
Under pressure from moderate-to-conservative members of the House Democratic caucus, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has decided to propose a government-run insurance plan that would negotiate rates with doctors and hospitals, rather than using prices set by the government, aides said Wednesday.
Ms. Pelosi said the public plan, which she prefers to call a “consumer option,” would compete with private insurers. But the speaker was apparently unable to muster the votes needed for the “robust” liberal version of a public plan, which she has repeatedly said would save more money for consumers and the government.
Members of the House Democratic leadership team offered these details of their bill, to be unveiled on Thursday. It would provide coverage to 35 million or 36 million people. The 10-year cost of expanding coverage would be less than the $900 billion ceiling suggested by President Obama. The cost would be offset by new taxes and by cutbacks in Medicare, so the bill would not increase the federal budget deficit in the next 10 years or in the decade after that.
The new bill, like an earlier version, retains a surtax on high-income people, but increases the thresholds. The tax would hit married couples with adjusted gross incomes exceeding $1 million a year and individuals over $500,000 — just three-tenths of 1 percent of all households, Democrats said.
“Consumer option”? Any choice made by consumers is a “consumer option”. It’s an almost meaningless phrase, except for what it hides. Pelosi’s newest nomenclature hides the fact that consumers don’t pay for it — taxpayers pay for it.
Ending the Medicare reimbursement rates will certainly gain Pelosi some votes, but that sounds fishy. The bottom-line number didn’t change from last week to this. How did the House bill calculate the costs of negotiated rates as opposed to the Medicare rates they used in their earlier calculations? How did that not increase the overall cost of the bill?
Well, it turns out that Pelosi & Co have decided to shift more of those costs onto the state. Earlier versions had people at 133% of the poverty line eligible for Medicaid, the costs of which states largely have to bear. The new version hikes that to 150% of poverty line, forcing more people onto state rolls rather than federal. That allows Pelosi to claim some cost savings, but the public burden felt by taxpayers will increase, thanks to unfunded mandates on the states.
For that matter, increasing the surtax thresholds should have cut back on their revenue expectations. Did they increase revenues elsewhere to maintain deficit balance? If so, where? Here’s one place where Pelosi cribbed from Max Baucus in the Senate:
The new House bill would also impose annual fees on manufacturers of medical devices like heart pacemakers and artificial hips. The fees — in effect, excise taxes — would total $20 billion over 10 years.
Taxing innovation — the Democratic way to better health care!
Hopefully, the CBO will score this one quickly and answer the big questions. Meanwhile, be sure to read Keith Hennessey’s analysis of upcoming Senate votes on ObamaCare.
Update: Politico notes another problem with the bill, which is that it runs surpluses its first five years — mainly because it doesn’t pay benefits until 2013 — and then deficits thereafter (via Geoff A):
The CBO analysis will show that the bill runs surpluses in the first five years and deficits in the second, making it deficit neutral during the first decade. BUT those late decade deficits were raising questions about whether the CBO will be able to declare the second 10 years deficit neutral.
It would appear that this is the same problem seen in the Baucus plan. It uses a head start on revenues to mask deficit spending overall. Also, the new Pelosi bill reneges on the White House agreement with pharmaceutical manufacturers, and it also engages in the same dishonest Doctor Fix strategy that flopped so badly in the Senate:
A permanent doc fix will be carved out of the reform bill and introduced separately today without pay-fors. That’s not going to make docs happy because even if the doc fix bill passes the House, the Senate has already killed a similar proposal. Drug makers are also getting shellacked. They’re looking at between $125 billion and $150 billion in cuts – almost twice the $80 billion they agreed to under the White House deal.
These aren’t even new ways to be dishonest.
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OT – Lerner is back in the hot seat.
http://www.c-span.org/
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Good thing Christie doesn’t have to leap or …
/snark
VibrioCocci on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope Christie wins reelection as governor.
And stays in New Jersey.
MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM
He’ll eat her alive. (oops–I mean, he’s sure to win handily..)
SailorMark on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Tough choice for New Jerseytonianites, elect the communist or elect the unknown Buono.
Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
The bigger they are, the harder they fall…
Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Yes, and … well … I might add … uh, um …
Yeah, I got nothing- you about summed it up.
M240H on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
So, New jersey, ya got Bouno running as a Dem, got Christie running as a Dem-Lite…who ya gonna put out there as a Conservative?
coldwarrior on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I could care less if Christie loses as a matter of fact I hope he does. He is far more damaging to Conservatives as a Republican foil than as a one-term non-sitting governor.
Conan on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.
DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
You might be able to name five people in Congress who are.
beatcanvas on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
If only they could both lose.
Doomberg on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
She needs to do something to offset the Governor’s
Truck Tire around his Gut….
..maybe a tattoo on her Azz cheek….
ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Soaring property taxes? Christie’s being attacked from the right. By a Democrat. Guess I’m not really surprised.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM
She looks like she could be Nancy Pelosi’s sister –
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/eye-on-politics-why-does-barbara-buono-want-to-be-n-j-governor/
rickv404 on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM
It’s not for nothing that they call it ‘morbid’ obesity. Probably her best chance of winning and it’s literally not a bad chance.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Do you want to bet that she can out Democrat Christie !
savage24 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
If Buono looks like she has any chance, I’ll contribute to her campaign. The only “Reoublicans” I hate more than the Fat Man are Rubio, McCain, Miss Lucy and Flake.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM
She looks like a younger Nancy Pelosi.
BacaDog on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
A younger cross-eyed version of Pelosi…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM
I hope Issa has the Sgt. at Arms ready to lock Lerner up at the next hearing…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM
OT:
KMOV fires Larry Conners for facebook post.
He left the reservation and now he is getting burned.
tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Racist! Made me LMAO!
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Good,let the dems spend their money on a race they can’t win…
right2bright on May 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM
On the surface, Buono looks like a much more appealing option than Christie – seriously, how can anyone bring themselves to vote for Christie again?
Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Fat chance.
James on May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Stapuff Marshmellow Man the gun grabbing scheistkoff.
Yea, OrderedPair that’s a great conclusion. (@ 4:06PM)
If he falls over he can’t be used by the Manure Spreading Media and shilled to the R’s as a viable canidate for POTUS in 2016.
Gawd help us if he becomes a distraction/diversion in the primaries.
Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM
On the other hand, she does have the benefit of being a Democrat.
No small thing in New Jersey.
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
only if it helps her.
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
he doesnt look like he lets cake walk past
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM
100% yes.
talking_mouse on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?
faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
What difference, at this point, does it make anyway?
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM
run a 3rd party, split the vote, can them both.
dmacleo on May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Christie will eat her for lunch (both literally and figuratively). ;-)
tommy71 on May 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM
That race, current polls notwithstanding, will be decided by five points or less. And likely in favor of Bouno
SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM
She looks to much like Lois Lerner for low information voters to tell the difference.
meci on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM
I can’t believe I’m going to stick up for christie but he’s taken on the unions and for that he has my gratitude.
As for his stance on gun control, the muslim outreach situation, the higher property taxes (which is a total joke because the tax is proportional to the price of the house so that means prices of homes in NJ are high meaning people want to live there – supply/demand/bernanke pumping up miney supply and driving down interest rates for flippers to come and sell old homes for higher prices BLAME THE REALTORS not christie), his other soft marginal republican attributes which I wish someone would list but most importantly, he needs to be in there for the 2020 census to redistrict and make more red districts (if possible). Does Jersey have term limits? If so then he’s out before 202o anyways but if not, keep him in just for redistricting alone.
athenadelphi on May 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie’s political fortunes at this point. He’ll get no support from me. Maybe Barry will throw him an endorsement.
Kensington on May 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Maybe I’ll give her a nice obama embrace in the form of a campaign contribution.
voiceofreason on May 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Is she claiming she’s pro-life? Give every child a chance at life (the same chance she got)?
Bet no one in Joisey notices the dichotomy.
Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM
She’s probably more Conservative than the Fatboi.
HondaV65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie. Maybe Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kon on May 7:09 PM
cableguy615 on May 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM