Breaking: Iran rejects west’s nuclear deal

posted at 8:05 pm on October 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

Robert Kagan wondered this morning if The One will ever be prepared to play hardball with Iran or if the “plan” is, in fact, eternal negotiation while they perfect their bombmaking technique.

We’ll know soon.

The proposal would have depleted Iran’s stockpile of nuclear fuel below the threshold necessary for making a single nuclear bomb, possibly creating diplomatic breathing room for a broader agreement between Tehran and those worried about its atomic research program.

But according to the diplomat, Iran wants to send its uranium abroad in smaller batches over an undetermined stretch of time rather than the lump transfer by year’s end outlined under the proposal offered by International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

Such a change would allow Iran to quickly replenish its stock.

Further disappointing the West, Iran did not submit a formal written response as expected, the diplomat said. Instead, Iran’s envoy to the atomic energy agency, Ali Ashgar Soltanieh, described the offer to ElBaradei.

The whole point of the deal, which The One had called a “constructive beginning,” was to get as much of Iran’s uranium out of its hands as possible. That way, even if they continued to enrich uranium at home, they wouldn’t have enough on hand to build a bomb. So much for that. More from the NYT:

A senior European official characterized the Iranian response as “basically a refusal.” The Iranians, he said, want to keep all their lightly enriched uranium in the country until the I.A.E.A. provides the fuel assemblies of fuel for the reactor in Tehran, produced and fabricated from foreign uranium.

Only then do the Iranians say that they would be willing to export their own lightly enriched uranium. “So it’s all virtual,” the official said.

“The key issue is that Iran does not agree to export its lightly enriched uranium,” he said. “That’s not a minor detail. That’s the whole point of the deal.”…

American officials are concerned that the Iranians are planning to run out the clock and continue processing uranium so that they can either build a weapon or attain “breakout capacity,” the ability to build one within a few months. Some diplomats involved in the negotiations are also concerned that Iran may have more nuclear fuel in its stockpile than it has acknowledged, and may indeed already possess breakout capacity.

This is the punchline to the stories this morning about Ahmadinejad trumpeting “cooperation” with the west in his latest speech. “Cooperation” is simply a euphemism for further negotiation, which accomplishes Iran’s goal of buying time. Dinnerjacket knew that news was about to break that the west’s offer had been rejected and this was his way of sounding conciliatory so that they’ll hold off on sanctions and keep talking. And you know what? They probably will. In fact, the biggest absurdity here is that this deal was likely to achieve next to nothing even if Iran had agreed to it. Danger Room estimated last week that, given current Iranian capabilities, had they shipped the bulk of their uranium to France or Russia they probably could have replenished their supply in as little as three or four months. The fact that they turned Obama down anyway only goes to show how resolute they are about not making concessions to the west, even if those concessions are meaningless in practice. Exit question: Sanctions now?


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What about the Russian influence for which we sold out US allies Poland and the Czech Republic?

Smart power!

Wethal on October 29, 2009 at 8:07 PM

but but but but but, It’s OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!

marklmail on October 29, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Shocker.

“But, the Egypt Speech???? We might have to send an Ipod with this speech on it to Tehran.+- Barry Obama

portlandon on October 29, 2009 at 8:07 PM

How can they keep slapping away Barry’s “open hand?”

Star20 on October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

If Obama can’t tame them then nobody can.

Sharke on October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

NOW Obama will take decisive action to teach the Iranians a lesson! (Ha, ha, ha, ha – I crack myself up sometimes…)

Be strong and prepare well, IDF – the time of judgement is soon.

Realist on October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

No.

Weight of Glory on October 29, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Iran may have more nuclear fuel in its stockpile than it has acknowledged, and may indeed already possess breakout capacity.

Hold on… let me see if I can do this effectively…

DDDUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Cooperation: Iranian definition> I do whatever I want to and you stand there talking.

ROCnPhilly on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

I think the new name for Obama will be O-Bomb-a. Now whether he uses those new bunker busters that were just ordered is in play. I doubt it though.

bbordwell on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

wow, let’s think about this, for a minute, maybe a minute more.
I think,hm,I think maybe Iran intends to be a nuclear power no matter what Obama does.

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Perfect, Obama has them right where he wants them…..time to spring the trap :)

deepinthought on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

Wow, that’s a knee-slapper…yeah, just as soon a Russia joins in.

AUINSC on October 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

As Obama dithers and dithers.

farright on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

I am shocked. Shocked! I tell you!

dKap on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you… /Channeling Barrack Obama…

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

So.. my question:

Do liberals actually have to SEE the nuclear Bomb in the sky above them before believing Obama is a worthless POS?

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

That takes even less thought, yes.

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

Probably have to ask Putin and Medyedev about that.

fourdeucer on October 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

That takes even less thought, yes.

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

actually I rethought that and I think the answer is:

“Look at the weird looking pla…. ” BOOOM

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Nah. They’ve got to feel it. It’s all about feelings.

ROCnPhilly on October 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

They’re toying with him and he doesn’t even know it . . . pathetic.

rplat on October 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM

I wish Allah would do a poll on when we get bombed.

Winner get a beer, a mask, a radioactive pin indicator and a hole.

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM

I nominate MB4 to take obama’s place. He would whip Iran into shape.

deepinthought on October 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

It’s not so much that Obama doesn’t know how to take no for an answer. It’s that he doesn’t know what to do when someone says no to him.

spmat on October 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Blanche Devereaux exudes my response…

SouthernGent on October 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

Hell No!! Appeasement always works in these situations….a strongly worded apology is in order here!!

Chicago Jesus needs to remind DinnerJacket just how much he hates Bush and 82% of the American people.

That aught to buy us 6 more months….

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Just got back from Colorado….many bumper stickers that say: ‘War is not the answer.’
Well, it looks like speaking through a teleprompter and trying to be friends is not the answer either.
This is what happens when pantywaists flock to the polls.
I just hope they hit Colorado first, sorry Thomasaur. That hellhole has TOO MANY EFFIN LIBERALS and is TOO DAMN COLD!

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

A more intersting poll to me is what will these idiots’ response be when we are hit?

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

‘aught’??

Wow..where the Hell did I come up with that??

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Bolton/Cheney 2012

Johnson on October 29, 2009 at 8:19 PM

A more intersting poll to me is what will these idiots’ response be when we are hit?

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

that is the beauty of it. How many liberals don’t live in a city? What can they say… Ouch?

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Doc, every night, I keep having this same dream…

… and then Achmeddamn’emall pops out of the box, all springy-sproingy like, and goes “I KILL YOU!”

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

That hellhole has TOO MANY EFFIN LIBERALS and is TOO DAMN COLD!

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Thank God $hit tends to roll downhill…..

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

To what end? It will in no way slow the enrichment process and others will gladly ‘run the blockade’ for profit.

Bomb the installations and live with the consequences.

ROCnPhilly on October 29, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Stall,stalled,stalling,stalling still!!

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

Don`t rush Obama. He`s still thinking about considering maybe making a possible decision, mostly likely on Afghanistan, maybe sometime later if he gets around to it, given if he has enough time to maybe think about possibly…….

ThePrez on October 29, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Time to spring the trap!!!! Pull the Lever!!! oh wait you guys didnt think that far ahead to make a trap, you really thought that your words alone would get them to give up their nuclear device, for shame!

deepinthought on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

So.. my question:

Do liberals actually have to SEE the nuclear Bomb in the sky above them before believing Obama is a worthless POS?

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Even as the flesh was burning off their bones and their eyes melting out of their sockets they would believe Obama was the Messiah…

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

None taken, where did you go?

thomasaur on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Smart Power.

Itchee Dryback on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

‘aught’??

Wow..where the Hell did I come up with that??

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

I’m sure you were thinking “double-aught”; just like the rest of us.

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Doc, every night, I keep having this same dream…

… and then Achmeddamn’emall pops out of the box, all springy-sproingy like, and goes “I KILL YOU!”

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Doorgunner: Do you hear,Voices tho!!:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2F3zCGj-t0

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Obama makes Chamberlin look like Bismark.

rob verdi on October 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM

MOPs STAT

fourdeucer on October 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Tick tock – The Hammers.

elduende on October 29, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Oh my – what a surprise! Time for Mr. Dithers to make another speech…

Drained Brain on October 29, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Just got back from Colorado….

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

HornetSting: Welcome home Sting:)

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

Sanctions?

Eff that…hell, load the B2s to the gills, spool ‘em up and send ‘em downrange.

Sanctions.

ted c on October 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Gee, it’s almost as if Obama were an ineffective president.

VanPalin on October 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Even as the flesh was burning off their bones and their eyes melting out of their sockets they would believe Obama was the Messiah…

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

HIS LIGHT! IT`S…….IT`S……SO BEAUTIFUL!

ThePrez on October 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM
None taken, where did you go?

thomasaur on October 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Durango. We took the train, that was great. It was beautiful, but too many liberals and I swear I lost a nipple…gotta stop streaking…

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM

I’m sure you were thinking “double-aught”; just like the rest of us.

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Thirty-aught Six???

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Bolton/ICBM 2012

Weight of Glory on October 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

HornetSting: Welcome home Sting:)

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Thank you, canopfor. I kept an eye on things with my cell, but I was jonesing for my HA.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

So.. my question:

Do liberals actually have to SEE the nuclear Bomb in the sky above them before believing Obama is a worthless POS?

No, they’ll still blame Bush

conservativejack on October 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM

You OpFor guys just live to F with the head, don’tcha?
Tres trippy. Thanx.

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Durango. We took the train, that was great. It was beautiful, but too many liberals and I swear I lost a nipple…gotta stop streaking…

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM

When I see thw War is not the answer stickers I wait around and tell the damned hippy that they didn’t understand the question. I’ve heard that Durango is worse than where I live and that is sayin’ something. (and it ain’t even started to get cold yet) -_*

thomasaur on October 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Thirty-aught Six???

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Double-aught buck-shot.

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

ThePrez on October 29, 2009 at 8:22 PM

ya got that right…

cmsinaz on October 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Double-aught buck-shot.

Doorgunner on October 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Hey, I was just adding to the list….

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Well, at least he got the Olympics 4 Chicago Peace Prize. /sarc.

redwhiteblue on October 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM

How can they keep slapping away Barry’s “open hand?”
Star20 on October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

They’re not really slapping Barry’s “open hand,” they just think Obama wants to play patty-cake.

Which pretty much sums up Obama’s “smart power.”

marybel on October 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Maybe he should show them his Peace Prize.

herrevery on October 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM

When I see thw War is not the answer stickers I wait around and tell the damned hippy that they didn’t understand the question.
thomasaur on October 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I really like that. Beauty.

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM

IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT!!!!!!

Cicero43 on October 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM

The biggest chump since Carter.

Hening on October 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM

A more intersting poll to me is what will these idiots’ response be when we are hit?

ORconservative on October 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Bush’s fault

Missy on October 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM

So.. my question:

Do liberals actually have to SEE the nuclear Bomb in the sky above them before believing Obama is a worthless POS?

upinak on October 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Hey, I’ve seen lots of pictures of telemetry warheads coming down.

They would probably think it was a unicorn flying over pooping out streams of marshmallowy goodness.

BigWyo on October 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM

War is rarely the answer but it depends on what the question is. So, Mr. President, what next?

Mason on October 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Hope and Change? His slogan should be “Kick Me.”

Cicero43 on October 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

The biggest chump since Carter.

Hening on October 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Na, even bigger chump than Carter…

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

So, where are our resident trolls swarming in here to tell us that Obama knows what he is doing, and that the adults are in charge, and we should all just shut up and go away?

Dave R. on October 29, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Aim those suckers at DC, Dinnerjacket and we’ll just start over.
Problem solved.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

War is rarely the answer but it depends on what the question is. So, Mr. President, what next?

Mason on October 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Don’t you mean, What Up, Mr. Steele?
War keeps the unicorns off your lawn.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Sad to say, the Iranians could say “H*ll no, get lost, we’re not discussing it any more, we’re gonna build weapons” and these guys would be spinning “negotiations” as the way to go.

BD57 on October 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now?

I’m sure President Dither will get around to considering sanctions just as soon as a few months after he gets around to his decision on Afghanistan.

redwhiteblue on October 29, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Aim those suckers at DC, Dinnerjacket and we’ll just start over.
Problem solved.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

The problem with that is their aim isn’t all that good.

fourdeucer on October 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I’m sure President Dither will get around to considering sanctions just as soon as a few months after he gets around to his decision on Afghanistan.

redwhiteblue on October 29, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Washington and Tel Aviv will both be glowing craters long before President Dither decides to do anything.

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Blanche Devereaux exudes my response…

SouthernGent on October 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Not that I wan to LOL but that was perfect!

CCRWM on October 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Aim those suckers at DC, Dinnerjacket and we’ll just start over.
Problem solved.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM
The problem with that is their aim isn’t all that good.

fourdeucer on October 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

So, they take out NJ by accident. When at first you don’t succeed, try try again.

HornetSting on October 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM

The only deal Iran should be offered on this issue is fifteen minutes of warning before a facility that is even remotely connected to a nuclear program is used for extensive bombing-run practice by the USAF.

Dark-Star on October 29, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Didn’t Obama “bluntly confront Iran” and warn “severe consequences” or something like that….?

Oh yeah, he was in Chicago at the time…

… couldn’t help himself. Something about being surrounded by union goons and ACORN thugs makes you a “tough guy”.

OK, “tough guy”, your move…

Seven Percent Solution on October 29, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Dinnerjacket is waiting for the guy stuck in the well
to crawl out with the briefcase handcuffed to his wrist
with the Iranian launch codes!!

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Dinnerjacket is waiting for the guy stuck in the well
to crawl out with the briefcase handcuffed to his wrist
with the Iranian launch codes!!

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Isn’t Dinnerjacket trying to start WWIII so He gets to be the one who ushers in that 12th Mahdi who’s going to kill all of us infidels???

CCRWM on October 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM

OK, “tough guy”, your move…

Seven Percent Solution on October 29, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Seven Percent Solution: Me thinks he squandered that image,
awhile back!:)

Hey,SPS,I’m guessing you have these
sites:)

http://www.spacewar.com/

and,

http://www.globalsecurity.org/index.html

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 9:13 PM

If Obama can’t tame them then nobody can.Sharke on October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PMYep. Time to NUKE EM.

huckelberry on October 29, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Clenched Fist.

Ahmadinejad can’t believe his good luck.
Putin can’t believe his good luck.
Hu Jintao can’t believe his good luck.
Kim Jong IL can’t believe his good luck
Mullah Omar can’t believe his good luck.
Bin Laden can’t believe his good luck.
Daniel Ortega can’t believe his good luck
Fidel/Paul Castro can’t believe their good luck.
Hugo Chavez can’t believe his good luck.
——–
Crazy crazy world.

antisocial on October 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Obama may be the President of the USA, but he is not the guy that has the answer to this problem. And yet the answer does exist. Anyone even wondering what is going on in Israel tonight?

MikeA on October 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

These are not the Islamofacist Iranian mullah dogs I thought I knew.

Yours Truely , Oblaba the precedent…

huckelberry on October 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Isn’t Dinnerjacket trying to start WWIII so He gets to be the one who ushers in that 12th Mahdi who’s going to kill all of us infidels???

CCRWM on October 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM

CCRWM: Dinnerjacket wants WW3,and if he takes out a 100
million muslims,as unworthy believers,oh well!

And,yes,Persia tried twice to take over the world,
and now,they will have atom-smashing weapons,with
a 7th century mindset!!

Oh,and infidels,yes,we are target number 1!!:)

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Crazy crazy world.

antisocial on October 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

I will always maintain that the Dark One and his earthly cave-dwelling minions had a celebration when the 2008 elections were over. Every last one of them down to the lowliest kneecap-breaker knew *exactly* what 0bama stood for and what his ultimate goals would be.

Dark-Star on October 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM

As with Afghanistan, the dithering is the strategy. But you will see THe Precedent snap into action the minute Israel makes its move and hits the Iranian nuke program. The Precedent will join with the EU and set about planning the destruction of Israel, starting with an embargo, UN resolutions declaring Israel to be the center of all evil, the ejection of Israeli diplomats from the US, and likely moving to a blockade after not too long.

The Precedent has a very specific list of enemies, and Iran is not on it. The US and Israel are, however. People will see soon enough.

progressoverpeace on October 29, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Clenched Fist.

Ahmadinejad can’t believe his good luck.
Putin can’t believe his good luck.
Hu Jintao can’t believe his good luck.
Kim Jong IL can’t believe his good luck
Mullah Omar can’t believe his good luck.
Bin Laden can’t believe his good luck.
Daniel Ortega can’t believe his good luck
Fidel/Paul Castro can’t believe their good luck.
Hugo Chavez can’t believe his good luck.
——–
Crazy crazy world.

antisocial on October 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

antisocial: Meanwhile,back at Team Jihady Cave,their laugh
ing their ass’s off!!

canopfor on October 29, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Washington and Tel Aviv will both be glowing craters long before President Dither decides to do anything.

doriangrey on October 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Yes, tragically true.

redwhiteblue on October 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Anyone even wondering what is going on in Israel tonight?

MikeA on October 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Plans detailing defense strategies, the maintaining of supply lines, and mass evacuation when the United States finally throws Israel to the wolves. I’d imagine it’s a pretty grim situation to try and plan for.

FYI – anyone know the job situation there? I’d fill sandbags or driving a forklift for the Lord’s chosen if there’s a position open. Better that than fruitlessly throwing my application at fast-food and big-box positions while my home nation crumbles away. Israel, at least, hasn’t thrown their national survival instincts out the window.

Dark-Star on October 29, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I know! We’ll just tell Obama that Iran is a subsidary of Fox News – then he’ll take decisive action!

Realist on October 29, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Exit question: Sanctions now? Nope, they’ll try a more direct approach with them. Instead of saying get rid of your enriched uranium, they will now add pretty pretty please with a cherry on top.

We really are getting parinoid over nothing. Remember Zero telling us that Iran is a ‘tiny’ country, and it doesn’t pose a serious threat
/sarc

Brat4life on October 29, 2009 at 9:34 PM

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