UN calls missile strikes “summary executions”
posted at 8:48 am on October 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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As it happens, the US is not the only entity turning towards a law-enforcement model in the war on terror. The UN has taken that approach as well, perhaps to a reductio ad absurdum that nonetheless will test Barack Obama’s decision on whether to pursue counterinsurgency strategy and his commitment to multilateralism at Turtle Bay. In a report to the General Assembly, the top UN investigator accused the US of breaking international law by killing terrorists through missile strikes:
US drone strikes against suspected terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan could be breaking international laws against summary executions, the UN’s top investigator of such crimes said.
“The problem with the United States is that it is making an increased use of drones/Predators (which are) particularly prominently used now in relation to Pakistan and Afghanistan,” UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Executions Philip Alston told a press conference.
“My concern is that drones/Predators are being operated in a framework which may well violate international humanitarian law and international human rights law,” he said.
US strikes with remote-controlled aircraft against Al-Qaeda and Taliban targets in Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan have often resulted in civilian deaths and drawn bitter criticism from local populations.
“The onus is really on the United States government to reveal more about the ways in which it makes sure that arbitrary extrajudicial executions aren’t in fact being carried out through the use of these weapons,” he added.
If I set out to write satire, I couldn’t do it this well. Suddenly, killing one’s enemy has become a summary execution. Would an arrest be considered a mugging?
Note too that while AFP mentions collateral civilian deaths, Alston doesn’t make that distinction. The UN is concerned with whether the US has justification for killing Taliban and al-Qaeda leaders, not whether we got the wrong targets. “Summary executions” mean that we have not provided these poor dears with proper due process to determine whether they should have been killed at all. It takes the law-enforcement approach to its natural, absurd conclusion, which is that armies are really nothing more than police officers with cooler weapons.
In a rational world, this would prove the utter uselessness of the UN in dealing with terrorism and terrorist networks. In the Obama administration, however, I suspect that they’re already attempting to justify themselves to Alston, or worse, modifying an effective program that kills terrorist leaders and disrupts their plans to satisfy “international law” that forces us to act against our own interests in war. The UN and a large number of Americans seem to forget that this is a war, not a domestic organized-crime problem, and that war means killing your enemies on the battlefield before they do the same to you, not finding a way to get them into court.
If this farce helped convince the Obama administration of that, it would be worth the laugh. Unfortunately, this is not an administration capable of — or inclined towards — telling idiots from multilateral organizations to pound sand.
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And we care what the UN says because…….?
4shoes on October 28, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Well, then is the left going to turn Barry over to the Haugue for War Crimes, like they wanted to do with President Bush?
The guy who just got the Peace Prize is practicing summary executions?
These guys need to get their messages straight . . .
NoDonkey on October 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Just get it over with and call the strikes premeditated murder.
When U.N. troops rape underage Congolese girls, how would the U.N. categorize that? Civic outreach?
Bishop on October 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Because Obama is working hard to make us a state of the United Nations.
darwin on October 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM
time to put a ‘For Sale’ sign outside of the UN…they need to leave NOW!
I’m afraid dear leader will apologize to them soon…
UGH
cmsinaz on October 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Seriously, I’d like to see proof of even ONE good thing the UN has ever achieved in it’s existence.
We need to kick the UN out of the US, and get the US out of the UN. The only kind of international organization that would even be worth considering would be one that was made up exclusively of democratic countries. The UN is dominated by dictatorships and has become nothing more than a hammer for islam to use.
wildcat84 on October 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM
But Biden said this is the way to fight the war…who is the U.N. to argue with Biden?
Biden has three words for the U.N….Get Lost
right2bright on October 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM
This came via an e-mail yesterday. As our troops experience a deadly month in Afghanistan and their commander is more interested in golf outings and fundraising events than giving them the resources, I felt I needed to post this prayer:
Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.
Veterans Day is just a couple weeks off. I would challenge all the HA readers do something to show appreciation of those currently serving. Their Commander-in-Chief has abandoned them. Let’s show that he doesn’t reflect the views of the American people.
highhopes on October 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM
John Bolton’s moustache says “pound sand, UN weenie!”
>/dream sequence off/<
common sensineer on October 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM
Good. I want them SUMMARILY EXECUTED! And I wouldn’t mind a bit if we did the same to the entire UN…
Fuzzlenutter on October 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM
When the UN stops running child prostitution rings, maybe I’ll care.
PimFortuynsGhost on October 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM
So from now on before each strike, we’ll just have to get someone buff and shirtless to announce, “You have the right to remain… dead.”
LibTired on October 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM
It’s the Polanski treatment: because the Left loves the UN, whatever happens is either good or just something necessary that has to be tolerated.
F.U. U.N.
rbj on October 28, 2009 at 8:57 AM
The area between 42nd and 48th streets, First Avenue and the East River, should be encircled by a 20′ razor wire topped wall and declared an asylum for the criminally insane.
csdeven on October 28, 2009 at 8:59 AM
get US out of the UN.
kelley in virginia on October 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM
If Obama had any Presidential chops, he would tell the U.N. to go jump…if Obama had any Presidential chops….
kingsjester on October 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM
This is just blather from the international set- you know Friends of Barry. In their world we could take out Bin Ladin with a drone and the UN would still attack us for not making sure that Bin Ladin’s pet was collateral damage.
highhopes on October 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM
The onus for the U.S. is to prosecute the War on Terror in a manner which kills as many bad guys as possible, thus reducing the likelyhood that any of them will be able to plan and execute an attack against civilian targets, here or abroad.
The onus for the UN is to stop raping children and giving a platform to some of the worst human rights defenders currently in power.
BadgerHawk on October 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Never heard this title until recently. There is also a “Rapporteur” coming to the US to investigate US human rights abuses (lack of affordable housing).
One wonders where these rapporteurs will show up next. And what authority they have beyond issuing reports. Whether one is obliged to cooperate with them. Not that the reports alone aren’t enough to influence the One, who will welcome them (as long as they stay out of Chicago).
Wethal on October 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Obama has become more hated than Bush in that area.
Spathi on October 28, 2009 at 9:01 AM
I’ve heard this idiotic argument before. I guess they’ve revived it. Personally, I love missile strikes. Us and the Israelis are so good at them. Go, us!
Blake on October 28, 2009 at 9:01 AM
You want to keep those people there? I’d rather that area be turned into something more useful like a garbage dump or a sewage treatment facility.
highhopes on October 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM
we elected a pantywaist as a president and his ill-considered decisions will haunt us long after he leaves office.
But we can all bask in the warm glow of his significantly reduced golf handicap.
turfmann on October 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Because Barry does.
MarkTheGreat on October 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM
But it is OK for Hamas and Hezbollah…
patrick neid on October 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM
The U.N. is lucky one of our drones hasn’t taken out one of their terrorists mid speech.
It’s really too bad the 9-11 pilots didn’t mistake the U.N. building for one of their targets!
Cybergeezer on October 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM
One place we need to be deploying predator drones and missiles is on the UN itself.
TXUS on October 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I’m announcing my candidacy for President of the United States. My platform: Dump the UN — NOW.
johnsteele on October 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Best answer to U.N.; “Yep!”
Star20 on October 28, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Maybe Obama should have Schwarzenegger write the UN a letter with a nice hidden message.
CBP on October 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Funny, I didn’t hear him mention anything in regards to the homicide bombings that just killed 87 Pakistanis. They were summarily executed for what? Shopping?
mossberg500 on October 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM
No it isn’t.
ncborn on October 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Hey Barry, for today/
How many terrorists did ya blow away?
I demand WAR CRIMES!!!111!!
/sarc
Techie on October 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Community organizing.
TXUS on October 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Well the UN knows that missile strikes are Obama’s the preferred strategy of prosecuting the war. This couple with the Nobel shows that the International Community has “The Ones” number; He cares more about his image as a “citizen of the world” more than anything else.
jacrews on October 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Is it me or is the UN getting too cocky for its own good in the age of Obama? This must be the fourth or fifth thing like this I’ve read in a week. They are sending a “human rights commissioner” to check the condition of housing in New York. Apparently bad housing is a humar rights violation now!
I think they’re sensing Obama’s weakness and trying to throw their strength around. Pussies.
promachus on October 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM
Agree 100%- especially after reading this article and the article at American Thinker on “Agenda 21″- changing the land rights rules so that they can turn rural conservative voting areas liberal by taking land and putting high density apt dwellings on them.
journeyintothewhirlwind on October 28, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Fighting them over here so we don’t have to fight them over there!
Two Chicago men charged in terror scheme
Feds say plot focused on Danish newspaper that published Muhammed cartoons
MB4 on October 28, 2009 at 9:10 AM
You’ve got my vote.
Shopping is consumerism which leads to Goebbels Warmening. Thus the Taliban are merely helping to control our climate, not to mention reducing the number of people on this over crowded planet. I hear that next year the Norwegians are going to give the Nobel Peace Prize to the Taliban.
rbj on October 28, 2009 at 9:10 AM
There use to be a great site on the assassination of Sheikh Yassin with diagrams and stuff but now I can’t find it.
Someone should write a book on Drone and Hellfire Attacks We Love and Remember. I’d buy it.
Blake on October 28, 2009 at 9:11 AM
Well, you wouldn’t want them to go to some third world sh!thole complaining about bad housing. There are no world class hotels for the rapporteur to stay in.
mossberg500 on October 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM
The UN is not a friend of the USA. The collateral damage is in no way deliberate as it is with the terrorists. When you’re warring with animals like that it’s gonna get ugly. You’re gonna get Armageddon. The UN is out of its league when it comes to Armageddon. They should bear witness and stop trying to referee.
RepubChica on October 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM
You know who needs to respond to the UN?
Yup.
Arnold.
In writing.
artist on October 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Then the UN can fight the war on terror and match us troop for troop on Afghanistan and watch the wholesale slaughter of the global police men as they go out to spread happiness and pass out flowers (which is all their ROE would let them do). Let them take the “moral high” road of limitless compromise and just sit back in an isolated America with closed borders and watch the world burn to the ground under the limp wrist of the UN.
erakis on October 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM
So right. Yet the libs want to get chummier and chummier with them.
Oh and to the UN: This is a war
CWforFreedom on October 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM
In other words, the onus is on the US to reveal its intelligence to the UN. Uh huh.
ProfessorMiao on October 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Obama wants to handcuff our military activity around the world. He’s setting it up for the UN to control ALL.
marklmail on October 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Well let’s ask Islamic militants which summary execution policy they prefer? The US’s which states lay down your arms and act peacefully and we will leave you be? Or Iran’s which states lay down your arms and they will rape you and then hang you at an intersection?
Rocks on October 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM
When the UN steals oil sales money intended to buy food for starving Iraqis, I guess they’d call that…
A special assessment.
TXUS on October 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Thanks,rbj. I knew I could depend on the HA commentariat to provide insight(as well as humor) into the twiested logic of progressive thinking.
mossberg500 on October 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM
You need to come clean my monitor.
Gosh, I hope Barry capitulates to these nutjobs. The Democratic party is just one terrorist attack in the US away from oblivion and while I don’t want anyone to die, they wouldn’t be the first Americans to die in the cause of liberty and they also wouldn’t be the last.
Kafir on October 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Fixed that for ya, bud.
LibTired on October 28, 2009 at 9:18 AM
For too many long years, the UN has engaged in
unnecessary, irrelevant, and irritatingly
counterproductive actions and speeches which merely
kick the can down the road, as they might say in CA.
Therefore, it is long past the right time for us to
help ourselves, and in turn the whole world, by finally
ending this entire disgraceful charade.
Under no circumstances should the US or indeed any
nation be obligated to hear advice from despots and criminals.
jwolf on October 28, 2009 at 9:18 AM
The UN is not a friend to anyone, except criminals.
You have heard the old joke that a boat is a hole in the water men throw money into?
Well, the UN is a hole in Queens governments throw money into, mostly ours.
Rocks on October 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM
How about making it into President Bush park and wildlife refuge, complete with a 100 foot statue of Vice President Cheney?
Just because it would tork off all of the right (left) people.
NoDonkey on October 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM
If this was 1945, Hitler would have the Allied forces up on charges of ‘War Crimes’ in the ICC.
mudskipper on October 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Summary Executions are allowed for non-uniformed combatants in war time as they can be treated as spies. But any signer of the Geneva Convention should know that.
theguardianii on October 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM
This way of thinking is the primary reason why I became a conservative following the 9/11 terror attacks.
aunursa on October 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Yeah. We can keep an eye on them.
It already is a cesspool.
csdeven on October 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM
After the world legalizes prostitution it will be the UN that says that Rape of a prostitute constitutes Shoplifting.
theguardianii on October 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
No Problem, we’ll use manned B-1 instead.
BDU-33 on October 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I love how the statements are framed…. But they keep harping about drones/Predators… As if for some reason a remotely piloted plane is legally different from, say, an A-10 spraying some 30MM HEI love?
darkpixel on October 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
This message should be repeated in the ear of every backstabbing libtard and generally clueless peacenik, at high volume, preferably by someone who lost a relative in 9/11.
…with a microphone held at their other ear to measure how long the words echo in their empty skulls.
I shudder to think at what would have happened had WW2 been somehow delayed 60 years, with the population and leaders we’ve got.
Dark-Star on October 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Too bad the Prince of Peace, Barry Hussein Obama, is too stupid to know that He is now being dissed by the UN.
Really Right on October 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I would love to boot the UN out. nothing but a low life piece of feces.
hawkman on October 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Ouch! That’s brutal, but I don’t think you need to hope Obama will do that. We know for a certainty he will. Our job will be to be prepared for it.
csdeven on October 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Why is aggression a better philosophy than appeasement?
Aggressive policies are easier to control.
csdeven on October 28, 2009 at 9:27 AM
if only
Lehosh on October 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM
The UN was created to be a facility where nations could sort their differencse and adrress mutual problems. The differense today is that the UN is the problem. I used to think that it was necessary song & dance that one tolreated for benefits described above. No longer, the UN is nought but a purile travesty.
We should immediately pull out of it, cut off all finacial contributions(equal to 25% of its total per aanum capital)give them 1yr to relocate off shore and let Trump turn the place into condos.
To continue to aid, abet, harbor and finance an enemy of the state is patently idiotic. Enough is enough, send them packing.
Archimedes on October 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
How’s the whole sweeping the oil for food scandal working for you UN?
I guess when you put Islamic terrorists in charge of the UN, they will whine about killing them off.
Hening on October 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM
That’s a good one Ed. Though I would’ve put it a little differently…
This is precisely the reason why the Goldstone report should be ravaged, and the laws of war changed to fit the wars of the new millennium.
AlexB on October 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Typos again! I need a cuppa joe prior to HA!
Archimedes on October 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM
In a rational world, this would prove the utter uselessness of the UN in dealing with terrorism and terrorist networks
Need you say more?
heshtesh on October 28, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Park a carrier battle group in Turtle Bay. That’ll shut the UN up.
Akzed on October 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Sometimes it can’t be avoided. However, when the enemy hides among civilians, they are the war criminal – not us.
Blake on October 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM
First we need to move the UN somewhere else, then we need to resign for it. It is nothing more than a rape club.
Mojave Mark on October 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM
The UN was created to
be a facility where nations could sort their differencse and adrress mutual problemsadvance anti-western policies that ultimately lead to the destruction of western civilization and replace it with a communistic world government. Archimedes on October 28, 2009 at 9:29 AMAkzed on October 28, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Obama should not only be stripped of his peace prize..Obama should be charged with war crimes and should be imprisoned!
This war is not helping Americans one bit. It is only hurting us. Our troops are being killed for no reason and the military industrial complex is making trillions on it.
For all of you who don’t know this:
The U.S. military is spending $400 per GALLON of fuel in afghanistan! Yes $400 per gallon!
This amounts to over $320 MILLION PER DAY!
Only a country totally out of control with spending and with FRAUD and corruption would waste resources like this!
MaximusConfessor on October 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM
But that’s exactly what we’re all doing when we pay our taxes.
TXUS on October 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM
They’re not “terrorists”, they are “private armed groups” according to the Obama Administration.
So therefore, if they’re not the enemy, why are they being targeted?
This “administration” has twisted themselves in circles to avoid calling these people what they are and coddling them once they are captured, but they are continuing to bomb them when they are running free.
Not that I’m against the targeting, but why is this “administration” permitted to get away with this ridiculous inconsistency?
NoDonkey on October 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM
If the UN ever gets its way -a weakened US unable to withstand a united world assault- it will surely be a fearful master.
Akzed on October 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Think UNHRC, Israel and the Goldstone Report.
fourdeucer on October 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM
If we had a real conservative party booting the UN would be in The Platform.
rcl on October 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM
The gist of what they really want is in the last paragraph of the quote.
It seems that we have some Curious Georges in the UN pressuring the USA to know how we pick our targets. That would compromise our intelligence methods and sources.
Egfrow on October 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
In a sense, the UN is right here.
Targeting individuals that are not clearly part of an organization that we are at war with is execution without trial. That’s why the Bush Administration attempted to promote the doctrine that if you’re not with us, you’re with the terrorist. It was an muddied attempt to unify civilization into defining terrorism in turn defining and criminalizing terrorist organizations. The implication would have been that all members would be enemy combatants. It failed to take hold.
Now we’re left with terrorist organizations that retain some degree of legitimacy. They’re made more so by this Administration’s reconciliation efforts. So if the terrorist state of Iran is legitimate, so is Hamas, Hezbollah and the Taliban. If the Taliban is a legitimate organization rather than a criminal one, who are we to then decide that any of its members are guilty and should be executed? Their courts are responsible for deciding that.
The environment hasn’t deteriorated to this point yet, but I think that’s the logical conclusion of or new foreign policy direction.
elfman on October 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Because Obama is working hard to make us a state of the United Nations.
darwin on October 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM
So i’ll be able to vacation at all the Country’s that represent the succeses of the UN without a passport,Sudan here i come.
heshtesh on October 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM
The UNHRC has filed war time abuses against Israel under the auspices of the Goldstone Report for war time crimes during operation Cast Lead. Pressuring Obama to endorse the report against Israel so Israel will face charges in the Hague. So far Obama has not endorsed the Goldstone Report.
fourdeucer on October 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Thursday, October 15, 2009
UK rejects Goldstone Report at UNHRC
The UNHRC, where Western countries are the minority-voting bloc, is expected to endorse the resolution based on the extremely biased report which condemns Israel of war crimes in Gaza during the Operation Cast Lead.
The US is expected to vote against the five-page resolution that endorses the report. The European position is unclear.
(JPost) The United Kingdom became the first Western country with voting rights on the UN Human Rights Council to clearly state that it would not endorse the Goldstone Report or the draft resolution based on that report, which had been placed before the council’s two-day special session that opened Thursday in Geneva.
“We can not endorse the report and can not vote for the resolution as tabled,” the UK told the council on Thursday. It added that it did not consider it necessary to hold a special session on the report.
fourdeucer on October 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM
And what does the UN call Muslim suicide bombers and the innocents they kill?
tarpon on October 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Dang ‘em terrorists. Hate it when they do that. It’s so terrifyingly terroristy.
RepubChica on October 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM
This is like the Redcoat commanders having their men wear “red coats” so the American patriots fighting against them could see the strength of the Brittish Army….What could go wrong with wearing a bright red coat on a battlefield…
lovingmyUSA on October 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Can we pull out of the UN yet? If we lead other nations will follow.
shick on October 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Is Kentucky Fried Chicken going to support the US on this?
WashJeff on October 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I’m convinced that this administration is using predator-launched missiles only because they haven’t figured out how to launch counsellors, community organizers & hugs.
landshark on October 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Precisely.
IF summary executions were the norm . . .
Gitmo. Would. Be. A. Lot. Emptier.
CPT. Charles on October 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Maybe we should give up and run away like the UN did in Rwanda. 1 million Africans hacked up with machetes isn’t a violation of international law. It’s a re-organization.
RadClown on October 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM
The problem with “international law” is that Western law is a tumor.
Once some conservatives got into an extended argument with some lefties as to how waterboarding could possibly be considered torture. The liberals gleefully cited chapter and verse: We signed and ratified a treaty in the 1960s, whose language was clarified by a conference in the 1980s, so therefore, the President of the United States had his hands tied.
We might as well agree with the UN that it violates whatever the authorities imagine international law this year, and then, renounce allegiance to international law. If we’re serious about the soveriegnity of the American people we would. But, we haven’t been for some time.
Chris_Balsz on October 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Better still, we wouldn’t ever have to worry about a future administration foolishly releasing captured terrorists into the wild – or being browbeaten into doing so -…unless there are liberals who know the art of necromancy. (Zombie Islamists. Oy.)
Dark-Star on October 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
So the problem is the word “UNMANNED”?
It would be OK if we strapped a soldier to the bomb?
Sorry, we learned it was OK to pull the pin and then THROW the hand grenade. (Don’t tell the jihadists, it is a secret!)
barnone on October 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Elect me President. I’ll pull all the Predators out of the Mideast.
I’ll turn them loose on the UN.
JEM on October 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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