Global warming goes … vegan
posted at 9:30 am on October 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
If people want a glimpse of what the world will be like with global-warming hysterics in charge, Lord Stern of Brentford lets the veil slip in an interview with the Times of London. Stern admits that the upcoming Copenhagen talks would produce a pact on energy usage that would send the cost of meat “soaring.” That suits Stern just fine, because he wants to push the world into vegetarianism anyway:
People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is better.” …
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities of greenhouse gases.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said. “I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of their food.”
Climate change is just another lever for the same old busybodies to run people’s lives. Lord Stern explains that his tastes and philosophy have changed since he was a student — and assumes therefore he has the right to dictate everyone else’s choices. Global-warming hysterics want to use this as an excuse to gain control and power for their idea of a benevolent despotism.
The health-care overhaul debate in the US has the same dynamics. Its advocates want to control the delivery of health care and make it more public in order to use it to insert themselves into private choices. Call it “creeping elitism,” but it’s creeping from all directions these days.
Seven hundred years ago, man farmed and raised cows and pigs on the entire island of Greenland. When they do that again, perhaps I’ll worry about bovine flatulence as a global threat. Until then, I consider creeping elitism from horse’s asses a much more elitist threat than methane from cow’s butts.
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“Vegetable are what dinner eats.”
via Andrew Bolt
mesquito on October 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Tail Gate party in Copenhagen!!!!!
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Stern himself is a little vague on whether he consistently practices what he preaches?
Like Algore, who preachse about carbon emisisons, and then rides in SUVs, flies in private jet and has an unnecessary luxury of a gas-guzzling houseboat.
Let the proles eat tofu. Or soylent green, the ultimate recycling.
Wethal on October 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Get the masses to deprive themselves of luxury out of guilt…until eventually, all the luxury is plentiful for the elite.
Oh, wait…luxury was already plentiful for everyone under capitalism.
So…it’s spite on the part of the elite? They simply can’t stand that others are doing as well as them? Hm.
MadisonConservative on October 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM
I’ll make a deal with Lord Stern. I’ll go vegetarian after he kills himself to do his part to save “Gaia.”
The ball is in your court, douchebag.
PimFortuynsGhost on October 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Call it “runaway authoritarianism”.
progressoverpeace on October 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Sooo, we’re not supposed to eat a steak and drive?
loudmouth883 on October 27, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Absolutely deplorable. Nothing is sacred to these f***s.
LibTired on October 27, 2009 at 9:36 AM
What use would cows, pigs, and chickens have to us if we did not eat them. MIght they go extinct? The animals they do not have to worry about extinction are the ones thaty we grow to eat.
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Because everyone knows that the alternative – growing enough extra vegetables to support a worldwide vegan diet – wouldn’t consume *any* water.
/sarc off
Midas on October 27, 2009 at 9:37 AM
What is not stated is that Stern was chewing on a big, thick, juicy piece of steak while making this statement. In fact, the reporter had to remove a piece of masticated beef from his cheek during the interview. ;)
TQM38a on October 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Oh even more wonderful. . .
let’s get rid of cheap energy so poor people freeze
let’s get rid of meat so poor people starve
Make no mistake, the human condition is that of hunter/gatherer, to deny this is absurd.
It doesn’t matter that instead of a core group of hunters going out to take down game that we’ve replaced them with a core group of ranchers. Just as it doesn’t matter that instead of almost every female being forced to collect nuts, grains, fruits, berries that we’ve replaced them with a small core group of farmers. WE ARE STILL HUNTER/GATHERERS!!! WE ARE OMNIVORES NOT HERBIVORES!!!
To deny our omnivore status is to deny our very humanity. Eating meat is what gave us the energy density in our food collection to branch out from our evolutionary past.
Yet another step in the lefts attempt to go BACKWARDS!
Sorry for shouting.
Jason Coleman on October 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Yeah, I can really see Americans having a hissy fit over a lack of carbon content on the packaging of food.
Good luck trying to convince us Texans to give up meat. My wife is a vegetarian and even she won’t attempt to sway me. You think the government is gonna fare any better?
Doughboy on October 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM
The “green” movement is a watermelon. Green on the outside and all red on the inside.
I’m going to have a nice steak for dinner.
wildcat84 on October 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Two words: wagyu steak
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Hell no. Not gonna follow these watermelons, green on the outside, red on the inside.
rbj on October 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Eating pasture-raised/grassfed meat (or venison from over-populated wild white-tail herds) is one of the best things you can do for the environment, and for your health.
That’s reason #256 I can’t stand this global warming scam. It diverts attention and resources away from real problems and good solutions.
I’ve lost 20 easy pounds so far, and counting, by upping my meat consumption and cutting out grain from my diet. They’re not taking that away from me. Cold dead hands.
juliesa on October 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM
These admonitions from the so-called green folks always have a whiff of “send me money or God will punish you”, don’t they.
LibTired on October 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Yes, let’s slaughter the cowsm goats chickens etc….
Wait that’s drastic or is it. We all know that the left’s arguments are baseless.
larvcom on October 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM
If they want the beef so bad, they can pry the cheeseburger from the cold, dead hand that isn’t clutching the freshly-emptied Smith and Wesson.
steveegg on October 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM
So that’s what my incisors are for. If you meat up with a sanctimonious vegitatarian, just point to the incisors.
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM
I like this guy. He’s got a hell of a sense of humor. I say we have a big barbecue with all the benefits going to charity, maybe buy turkeys for a food bank, in his honor.
trubble on October 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Remember according to these same folks you have to kill your dog first!
patrick neid on October 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Off topic: The hold on the Ares 1-X flight test was just released and launch in about 5 minutes.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Live stream
Jason Coleman on October 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM
This little island dweller has no clue. Just drive across Kansas and you will see only a fraction of the thousands upon thousands of acres suitable only for raising cattle.
I suppose he would be all for letting that land lay fallow, but the protein that otherwise useless land produces helps feed the world.
We import a lot of beef, directly supporting the world’s citizens. To stop them from producing beef would throw many countries back two hundred years.
These people are beginning to annoy me. I think I’m going to have to grill some steaks for dinner tonight.
davidk on October 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM
then again. . . maybe that’s not so far off topic
Jason Coleman on October 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Barbecues in the UK have a global warming tax on them. You can’t fire up the grill in your backyard without paying something around $25 in global warming taxes on it. Seriously.
Great Britain went way over the edge long ago. They are toast.
progressoverpeace on October 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM
I do love animals. They’re delicious. But I had not thought that eating beef was increasing my carbon footprint. Hey – gravy!
Ted Torgerson on October 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM
As a cattleman, I hope HA will permit me to reproduce and disseminate Ed’s most eloquent statement above, with attribution, of course.
This horse’s ass, Lord Stern, reminds me of one of the differences between a conservative and a liberal.
When a conservative decides to become a vegetarian, he does so quietly.
When a liberal goes vegan, he wants to force everyone else to do so as well.
TXUS on October 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM
I guarantee the vision of this jackass and others like him is to make meat so expensive, that only he and other elites can afford it.
Remember, this guy (like Barack Obama) is among the “talk the talk” crowd, not the “walk the walk” crowd.
Unless I’m mistaken and he takes public transport, flies coach and sends his kids to public schools. Unlike our president.
NoDonkey on October 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM
davidk is right. A huge percentage of world land is not suitable for growing crops. It’s only use is recreational, and/or production of meat, wool, mohair, and other animal products.
juliesa on October 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Tell you what,..you eat what you want and I won’t say a thing, you mind your own effing business about what I eat and I won’t beat yer ass like the veggie bitch you are.
Alden Pyle on October 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Let’s be clear. Lord Stern does not speak for the vast majority of us lefties, who enjoy a good steak as much as anyone. Maybe with a nice cholesteral-laden Bernaise, some pommes perseillade on the side and a big bottle of Bordeaux to wash it back. Stern is, in the words of Monty Python, and Upper Class Twit.
Note that we do think it would be a good idea to end the grain subsidies which make beef artificially cheap and lead to a any number of objectionable practices, but that’s a different subject entirely (and a pro-free market one).
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Well that settles it. Steak tonight, baby!!
crazy_legs on October 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Wow, eight years down the line and the vegans are still pushing the cow toot meme as a reason to give up meat. I’m just surprised Lord Stern (Hoo-Hoo, Lady Robin) didn’t include the usual destruction of the Amazon rain forest by South American ranchers in his screed.
Of course what the good lord forgets as far as the U.S. goes is it’s improper to really push this story line right now if you’re a career politician. To demand people be forced in to veganism while George W. Bush was one thing, because it was just another way to bash Bush and you knew he would never do it; to do it while Barack Obama is in office is to actually get the radical environmentalists’ hopes up that Obama might actually impose a repressive tax or strict FDA limits on meat, and given Barack’s sliding poll numbers and other policy problems, that’s not a battle the in-it-for-the-power-alone Washington Democrats want to be pushing right now.
jon1979 on October 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM
This pompous windbag is in need of some serious medication.
kingsjester on October 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Amazing!
Let’s destroy the economy completely now.
First Cap and tax.
TARP
Obama Care
Now the ranchers, butchers, grocers.
Can anyone visualize a restaurant without meat?
I doubt that McDonald’s veggie burgers would get much of a following.
The Rock on October 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM
You know the Gonzales flag, “Come and Take It”?
http://www.galleryoftherepublic.com/txflags/gonzales.htm
I have one flying over my BBQ grill.
juliesa on October 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Shoot! End all farm subsidies! If there is one thing I can guarantee you, is that there will ALWAYS be demand for food.
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM
IS this a tee-up for a joke about beef in McD’s burgers?
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:53 AM
How would this effect Ben & Jerry?
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM
This!
Specifically paying for land to not be farmed…an even more blatant example of paying to do no work than welfare is!
Dark-Star on October 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Don’t Fret you can still eat boogers. For Now.
BDU-33 on October 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM
+1000
thomasaur on October 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM
I’m with you.
I have some good buddies who are farmers but because they grow food that people eat, not livestock, they actually have to earn a living.
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM
There are many rational reasons to adopt a vegetarian diet or lower meat intake, but global warming is not one of them. And vegetarianism should be an adult choice, not something that’s forced on growing children.
This is another example of elitist, wealthy liberals forcing the poor and the children of the world to bear the burden of their liberal views, while liberals can afford to choose for themselves. Arrogant hypocrites.
Loxodonta on October 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM
There is no doubt veggies create more gas…so we have a human population giving off triple the gas, causing more problems then ever.
We will all be forced to wear carbon filter underwear…
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM
I’ve always said that the main reason why these guys are attacking airplane travel, is because they want to have the beaches at their favorite resorts all to themselves. If the masses can no longer travel, then the best vacation spots open up.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I have an uber-lib friend who actually served me broccoli with yogurt sauce over brown rice for dinner.
BigD on October 27, 2009 at 9:59 AM
MMMMM…Meat
The other M-word.
Brat on October 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM
That wasn’t a friend BigD.
thomasaur on October 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM
There are no subsidies that make grain cheaper.
There are many distortions in the market that make grain more expensive. Things like paying farmers not to grow grain.
I have to give BB credit, for once, he got it half right. that’s way better than his average.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 10:02 AM
This is what Anthropogenic Global Warming Alarmism is all about: A vehicle for lefty factions to achieve their dreams of a socialist, vegan dystopia. If someone invented practical fusion electrical generation, the environmentalists would fight it’s implementation tooth and nail, just as they have nuclear power. It would rob them of their great opportunity to gain power over us all.
I don’t know why anyone listens to the alarmists. They’ve been consistenly too high in their temperature predictions for the last 20 years, outside of any range of error. Shouldn’t there be consequences at some point?
theCork on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
I went ammo shopping on Saturday, for the first time in months.
They were still out of self-defense rounds for most handguns. They mostly only had target stuff, and it was expensive.
This is all related.
juliesa on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
LOL. Though, “meathead” did make the list.
progressoverpeace on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
cattlemen don’t work for a living????
You started off well, but as usual you spun off into the ditch.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
That’s a Peace Prize!
Alden Pyle on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Actually, that sounds rather tasty. ‘Course, I just had bacon and eggs for breakfast so vegetable matter seems more attractive than usual.
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Children, especially really young children, need fat in their diets so that their brains can grow properly.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Of course, being in the cattle business, I’ve always been worried about comments like this from these vegan nutbags.
Well many of these people are getting their way.
The average sized cow herd in the US runs about 45-50 head.
We well exceed that avg here in SW ND, as do many of our neighbors.
Many of us are going out of business.
Anti-trust laws are not being enforced.
Much of your meat comes from other countries that are not inspected & do not have to play by the same rules as we do .
The Humane Society of America, PETA, & other groups like it are advancing their agendas to make you all vegans.
Look at what happened in CA-strict regulation on how animals are produced.
They appeal to your emotions, those of you who never took care of an animal in your life.
Many believe what they say.
You want animals treated humanely.
What’s wrong with that?
Nothing. But what is ‘humane’?
This is the rub.
Steadily, through emotional campaigns & trickery, they insinuate their way into the industry until someday, all of your meat will come from countries that are anything but ‘humane’ to their animals.
There is not enough land in the world to produce enough vegetables for everyone to eat.
Some land is only good for grazing.
Meanwhile, farm & ranchland continues to be paved under as those of us in agriculture sell out through necessity.
We in ag die a slow death when going out of business.
This fall’s cattle prices may be the ax for most of us.
Foreign beef is scary-don’t be misled by the USDA sticker.
That doesn’t mean it’s been inspected.
Buy USA beef.
We produce a superior product.
Demand transparency from the USDA & the FDA.
You’d be surprised at what goes on.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Apocalypse Cow.
ICBM on October 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM
If a friend served that without warning me what to expect, that friend would be bumped down to acquaintance.
theCork on October 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM
I teach this in Biology & Anatomy in the HS.
It’s imperative young children get the proper proteins:made of the necessary amino acids they need to develop physically & mentally.
REAL nutrition needs to be taught in schools.
Most people have no idea why fats are important.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Now lefties use MGW to dictate what we eat. Next they will use it to dictate our sexual preferences. Totalitarianism.
petefrt on October 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Bad word placement there. I meant that they grow unsubsidized food for human consumption rather than subsidized grains for livestock consumption. No slur on cattlemen intended.
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM
UGH. So sorry for you!
BTW-who knows about the study(ies) about vegans?
Somewhere I’ve heard that they have lower reproductive rates and lower brain function/activity.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM
I thought that was correct. I always give my kids the fattest pieces of bacon and steak.
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Not only are you factually incorrect, but you just couldn’t resist a cheap shot, could you?
Corn subsidies have saved HFCS makers significant cash over the years. HFCS producers—including Archer Daniels Midland—accessed “corn priced 27% below its cost from 1997-2005.” Producers snagged $2.2 billion in savings between 1997 and 2005.
Meat packers and dairy processors fared even better; buying livestock fattened on cheap subsidized grain saved chicken processors $11.3 billion, pork processors $8.5 billion, and beef packers $4.5 billion in the 1997-2005 time frame.
The federal government has made it cheaper for us to eat sugar and starch through massive grain subsidies. An old farmer told the stars of King Corn, “You couldn’t make any money growing corn if not for the government payments.” Those government payments are the reason we feed cattle corn instead of letting them eat grass as nature intended.
Dark-Star on October 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Don’t spew about something you know nothing about.
I am in the cattle business.
I live & work with farmers.
Walk a mile in my husbands & mine’s cowboy boots before you shoot your mouth off about raising cattle.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:10 AM
So, in order to replace the protein intake from lost meat, we’ll all have to eat lots of baked beans. I wonder what that will do for the flatulence balance of the earth.
Does the good Lord Stern want to ban fish consumption as well? They also require a lot of water…
Steve Z on October 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Why is there a mentality that small farmers have a right to exist in this country and must be subsidized (I know the subsidies go to the big guys anyway)? Given the heavy equipment involved in farming, it seems that farming lends itself to bigger operations.
WashJeff on October 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Being a vegan for health reasons is one thing; for “green” reasons is quite the other. Are these people for real? My daughter eats fish only because she can’t stand the taste of beef and chicken. But that’s between her and her tastebuds and as a mom, I have to ensure she gets the proper protein and vitamins for growth. I have a brother in law who tries to be a true vegan because it’s politically correct. He craves a good In and Out burger now and then…so who’s fooling whom? I have a niece who is a vegan for health reasons, it helps with her MS.
If Stern wants to forsake beef for the rest of his life, more power to him. But he has no right to push his “world view” on others.
Annietxgrl on October 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM
No more chikin? Gee. I didn’t see that coming.
Randy
williars on October 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM
If cattle are so bad then what about the pre-Buffalo Bill bison herds? How come it wasn’t hot like a toaster in the early 1800′s?
Whilst in the genral area – How did the Polar Bear survive the Medieval Warm Period, which was warmer than today with conceivably less Artic ice cap?
Jed_Eckert on October 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM
You know what other food has a big carbon foot print? Food grown in green houses and fruit grown in South America and shipped to Central Market. So if we are going to start issuing carbon credits for food, keep that in mind.
A low CO2 footprint diet is going to involve a whole lot of cabbage and potatoes for most of the country.
bitsy on October 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Listen-all of the food that you eat is cheap bcs of govt subsidies. Period.
Cattle feeders are in the same pickle as we cow-calf producers.
It is true that when corn is cheap, traditionally cattle are cheap.
But feeders have all been moving to other feedstuffs for quite some time now.
So if you hate paying what you pay now for food, just wait & see what happens if the govt gets out of the food business.
I don’t like govt intervention. The cattle business traditionally stays away from it.
We personally do not take govt $$.
One exception was disaster aid due to 10yrs of severe drought.
But if a country does not have a steady food supply, they will be at the mercy of other countries for its food.
Food is a BASIC NECESSITY.
Do you understand that most cities only have a 3 day supply of food on hand in their stores?
This is one reason the govt sticks its nose into the food business.
I don’t have a solution for it, but agriculture is an entirely different ball of wax than other commodities bcs food you cannot live without.
So cheap corn does not always = cheap cattle.
Get a clue please.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Ed calls it “creeping elitism”.
Levin calls it “soft tyranny”.
Jonah calls it “liberal fascism”.
I think it’s all three.
p0s3r on October 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I believe children can develop well with just dairy products and eggs. But how do you make the meet of cows, poultry, etc. expensive without also making milk, cheese and eggs expensive? And since I don’t see how that can be done, I believe these proposed policies will have a severe negative impact on children, especially the poorest and youngest children of the world. These are the very people who need and deserve our greatest assistance and protection, not a liberal ideological assault on their dietary needs.
Loxodonta on October 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM
What happened to beefalo, that was supposed to save the world and all the clogged arteries?
fourdeucer on October 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM
What a wonderful idea. I think I’ll have a steak dinner to celebrate.
becki51758 on October 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Small farmers are not the ones getting subsidized.
It’s large agriculture that does.
Follow the $$ on who gets the big bucks-you’ll find that its huge companies & not the small fry.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Soylent Green, we are currently playing in the real world remake.
If you want to know whether Congress can mandate healthcare insurance, or government rationed healthcare, ask yourself a simple question … If government mandated that all food be bought from the federal government, gruel coupons were needed to purchase it, would you think this was Constitutional? How about house coupons? Mortgages? Car coupons needed to buy the ‘right kind of government mandated car’?
Easy isn’t it.
tarpon on October 27, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Bison fed on grain is being touted in markets, but then you basically have a domestic cow.
Grass fed beef is extremely healthy.
Grain fed is more tasty.
I like a grain fed steak.
But I eat my own grass fed beef & it’s yummier & certainly safer than anything I’d buy in the store-especially those chubs of ground beef.
Stay away from that crap.
It’s product mixed from loads of different countries.
Yuck.
Badger40 on October 27, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Every topic you have a “good buddy” that supposedly work and you have the “inside” information…
We laugh at your postings…or as you would state it, I have a good friend who is an editor and he laughs at your postings…
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Good point. There are a lot of mountain slopes above the treeline where nothing grows except grass, which is indigestible to humans, but can be used for grazing sheep and goats in summer, and making hay for winter. If we can’t raise sheep up there in order to make the world cooler, where will we get wool to stay warm? Or do we have to wear all artificial fabrics, whose raw material is (gasp! cough!) crude oil?
Steve Z on October 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Name another one. And I didn’t claim any “inside” information, just that they don’t get subsidies.
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM
We used to buy our beef from the 4H fair and had it butchered to our tastes, but now we just buy from small owner farms. Still beats commercial.
fourdeucer on October 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM
I was just thinking the same thing…
ladyingray on October 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let’s not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources. Ronald Reagan
What happened to those good old days and common sense? What a shame the state we are in now and the ridiculous arguments that have come forth.
bluemarlin on October 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Look at our history. There’s a strong association with the American small farmer, largely because of the massive role they played in building our nation. America never would have stretched from coast to coast had not people ventured ever-westward – often at a terrible price – to establish family farms and small towns that led to bigger and better things.
Just look at Oregon. It is so remembered for intentional immigration to that specific state, we now recall ‘the Oregon Trail’ in textbooks and computer games!
Dark-Star on October 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Vegetarian= Native-American for poor hunter
Sounds like the bastard ultimate plan is the elimination of the species, is Ming The Merciless behind their nefarious plans.
El Coqui on October 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM
What’s the carbon footprint of shipping a melon up from Mexico…assuming it is not tainted by the workers in the field. Ever see how far they have to walk to use the tocador, they are paid by how much they pick so they just….in the fields.
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Yeah, and as soon as the beef prices go up (I doubt they will) and if low-income people start bitching, you’ll be the first one in here suggesting we tax-payers be forced at gunpoint to subsidize their beef purchases.
Hell, you’ll probably even propose creating another huge federal government agency (yet another hit on the taxpayers) be created to oversee it all.
No wonder liberalism has driven this nation to the brink of financial collapse.
You people are complete, government-educated idiots.
Dave R. on October 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Makes sense, kind of. Most herbivores are herd beasts. Non-sentient herd beasts.
mojo on October 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
If anything close to what this numbnuts is proposing is ever enacted, there will not be one wild animal left in the country, fish will become extinct, as will birds. If they can’t find domestically raised animals they’ll take the wild ones for food.
24K lady on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Akzed on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Lord Stern of Brentford: Let them eat cake.
Loxodonta on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Actually, they same folks who might be inclined to dislike beef because of greenhouse gas emissions are also hopping on the “locavore” bandwagon, and try to eat only foods grown locally that produce smaller carbon footprints.
I don;t eat produce from South America because it tastes bad.
Bleeds Blue on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Can we get Soylent Green in multiple flavors (and colors)?
barnone on October 27, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Wasn’t meat-eating one of the things that was necessary to support our larger-than-other-animals-by-proportion-brains over the course of evolution?
theCork on October 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM
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