Gingrich was on Michael Medved’s show today reiterating why he endorsed Dede. Normally Medved’s staunchly anti-third party, but not in this case mainly because there was no primary. Newt emphasized that there were four meetings by the GOP “selection committee” and Hoffman lost in all four. His attitude was that these party officials knew best and everyone else should defer to their wishes. Newt, my man, you screwed the pooch on this one (especially if Hoffman ends up winning). Big time.

Rush I love ya but never again with Mark Taylor please>

gary4205 on October 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Excellent post!

You understand the eternal struggle we are in.

It is a struggle as old as when one angel led a third down.

FYI, Hannity, who is a good buddy of Newt, is sayin how great it is that Sarah endorsed Hoffman. He wasn’t parsing his words either. WOW, Hannity really is a conservative and not a GOP ho.

Geochelone on October 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM

That blew me away when I heard that on Sean’s radio show.

Oil Can on October 26, 2009 at 1:07 PM

More times than not here in NY the R’s & C’s run on the same party line but the R’s screw up so bad it left an opening for a C to get on the ticket. That how this became a three way race.

Hoffman wins in a landslide if he will just for pete’s sake use some Teeth Whitener.

Good grief, what a lousy pic.

klickink.wordpress.com on October 26, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Beck had the perfect analogy for that last week, using two gleaming skyscrapers vs a building that looked like it was covered in second-run windows. Conservatives are looking or substance, not style, nor glamour.

Does it help to have style & glam a la Sarah? No. If it did, then explain Scuzzi, sKerry, dishWaters, Paleloser, Dingy Harry etc, etc. Style and glam only helps to fundamental flaws, i.e. Obambi, Crispy, yes, even Newtie.

Does it hurt to be rough & unpolished? No. Refer to the above short list.

But if ya wanna talk about looks, Hoffman don’t look bad next to those two

So I ask again — has anyone actually vetted this Hoffman guy???

Outlander on October 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM

And so we answered you yesterday in the other thread. Essentially you’re nit-picking an unknown claiming to be conservative, while the other two are committed to anti-conservative causes.

This is a no-brainer and further validated by the fact that Hoffman is a small business owner. My vote goes to the business owner over a professional politician or community organizer.

So we have a GOP with defectors defects like Snowe and Collins, and outright turncoats like Spector.

hawksruleva on October 26, 2009 at 1:17 PM

FIFY

For the good of the GOP, Scuzza should withdraw and support Hoffman.

rbj on October 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM

No. The best thing for the GOP is for Scozzafava to get beaten by the Conservative candidate through votes from actual voters. That’s the most effective message to party leadership. NY-23 has become the rallying point for the soul of the GOP. If real voters reject the party’s chosen candidate for an actual Conservative that will reverberate much more than if that candidate just quit.

JonPrichard on October 26, 2009 at 1:09 PM

^5

If she loses, which appears now she will, we on the Right do not want to go overboard with our denunciations of her, and give her no choice but to switch parties to the Democrats. That would be a post-election embarrassment for the Republican Party.

So, please, you all, criticize her, but save the harshness for the Democrats.

–Gary (or anyone who lives in the area), does a 48% GOP/36% Dem sample make sense? It seems to me that it’s too high for the GOP.

Jimbo3 on October 26, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Current voter rolls in the district show 43/31 Republican/Dem split. Which would put both parties a little high by an equal 5%. When you figure that people registered with a party are more likely to vote than those not it is not totally out of reason.

108 36.0 DEMOCRAT
145 48.3 REPUBLICAN
40 13.3 INDEPENDENT/NO PARTY
2 0.7 CONSERVATIVE
1 0.3 OTHER
4 1.3 REFUSED

–Gary (or anyone who lives in the area), does a 48% GOP/36% Dem sample make sense? It seems to me that it’s too high for the GOP.

AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, ON NOVEMBER 3RD THERE WILL BE LOCAL ELECTIONS AND A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CONGRESS IN YOUR AREA TO FILL THE SEAT BEING VACATED BY CONGRESSMAN JOHN MCHUGH. USUALLY, VERY FEW PEOPLE VOTE IN SPECIAL ELECTIONS LIKE THESE.

HOW LIKELY ARE YOU TO VOTE IN THE
UPCOMING LOCAL ELECTIONS AND THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CONGRESS? WOULD YOU SAY YOU ARE VERY LIKELY TO VOTE, SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO VOTE, OR NOT LIKELY TO VOTE? IF YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE IN NEW YORK, JUST SAY SO.

300 100.0 VERY LIKELY

IF YOU HAD TO LABEL YOURSELF, WOULD YOU SAY YOU ARE A LIBERAL, A MODERATE, OR A CONSERVATIVE IN YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS?

55 18.3 LIBERAL
92 30.7 MODERATE
123 41.0 CONSERAVTIVE
61 20.3 Smwht Conservative
62 20.7 Very Conservative
30 10.0 DK/REFUSED

WITH WHICH POLITICAL PARTY ARE YOU REGISTERED?

108 36.0 DEMOCRAT
145 48.3 REPUBLICAN
40 13.3 INDEPENDENT/NO PARTY
2 0.7 CONSERVATIVE
1 0.3 OTHER
4 1.3 REFUSED

WHAT IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING THE UNITED STATES TODAY THAT YOU WOULD MOST LIKE TO SEE YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS MAKE HIS OR HER TOP PRIORITY?

72 24.0 HEALTH CARE/REFORM
67 22.3 ECONOMY
32 10.7 UNEMPLOYMENT/JOBS
26 8.7 WAR/IRAQ/AFGHAN
13 4.3 REDUCE TAXES
9 3.0 HEALTH INS./AFFORD
7 2.3 SOCIAL SECURITY/SAVE
7 2.3 NATIONAL DEBT
5 1.7 GOV’T OVER-SPENDING
5 1.7 CARE USA FIRST
4 1.3 WAGES/HIGHER

PLEASE TELL ME WHETHER YOU HAVE A FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE OPINION OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING. IF YOU HAVE NO OPINION OR HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE PERSON, JUST SAY SO.

“BILL OWENS”
72 24.0 FAVORABLE
50 16.7 UNFAVORABLE
149 49.7 NO OPINION
29 9.7 NEVER HEARD OF

PLEASE TELL ME WHETHER YOU HAVE A FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE OPINION OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING. IF YOU HAVE NO OPINION OR HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE PERSON, JUST SAY SO.

“DEDE SCOZZAFAVA”
72 24.0 FAVORABLE
85 28.3 UNFAVORABLE
125 41.7 NO OPINION
18 6.0 NEVER HEARD OF

PLEASE TELL ME WHETHER YOU HAVE A FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE OPINION OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING. IF YOU HAVE NO OPINION OR HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE PERSON, JUST SAY SO.

“DOUG HOFFMAN”
91 30.3 FAVORABLE
41 13.7 UNFAVORABLE
143 47.7 NO OPINION
25 8.3 NEVER HEARD OF

IF THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR U.S. CONGRESS WAS HELD TODAY, AND THE CANDIDATES WERE BILL OWENS, THE DEMOCRAT, DEDE SCOZZAFAVA, THE REPUBLICAN, AND DOUG HOFFMAN, THE PARTY CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE, FOR WHOM WOULD YOU VOTE?

81 27.0 COMBO OWENS
71 23.7 Vote Owens
10 3.3 Lean Owens
59 19.7 COMBO SCOZZAFAVA
54 18.0 Vote Scozzafava
5 1.7 Lean Scozzafava
94 31.3 COMBO HOFFMAN
85 28.3 Vote Hoffman
9 3.0 Lean Hoffman
66 22.0 FIRM UNDECIDED

BETWEEN BILL OWENS, THE DEMOCRAT, DEDE SCOZZAFAVA, THE REPUBLICAN, AND DOUG HOFFMAN, THE CONSERVATIVE, WHO WOULD BE YOUR SECOND CHOICE CANDIDATE?

31 10.3 OWENS
41 13.7 SCOZZAFAVA
39 13.0 HOFFMAN
189 63.0 UNDECIDED

BETWEEN BILL OWENS, DEDE SCOZZAFAVA, AND DOUG HOFFMAN, WHO WOULD YOU SAY WOULD DO THE BEST JOB IN THE FOLLOWING AREA?
“CREATING JOBS”

80 26.7 OWENS
42 14.0 SCOZZAFAVA
71 23.7 HOFFMAN
17 5.7 NONE
4 1.3 ALL
86 28.7 DK/REFUSED

BETWEEN BILL OWENS, DEDE SCOZZAFAVA, AND DOUG HOFFMAN, WHO WOULD YOU SAY WOULD DO THE BEST JOB IN THE FOLLOWING AREA?
“REDUCING WASHINGTON SPENDING”

53 17.7 OWENS
40 13.3 SCOZZAFAVA
91 30.3 HOFFMAN
25 8.3 NONE
9 3.0 ALL
82 27.3 DK/REFUSED

WHAT IS YOUR AGE?
10 3.3 18 – 25
31 10.3 26 – 40
60 20.0 41 – 54
91 30.3 55 – 64
104 34.7 65 OR OLDER
4 1.3 REFUSED

GENDER:
141 47.0 MALE
159 53.0 FEMALE

AREA:
73 24.3 BURLINGTON M.M.
39 13.0 Clinton County
14 4.7 Essex County
20 6.7 Franklin County
16 5.3 ALBANY M.M.
12 4.0 Fulton County
4 1.3 Hamilton County
107 35.7 WATERTOWN M.M.
46 15.3 Jefferson County
13 4.3 Lewis County
48 16.0 St Lawrence County
104 34.7 SYRACUSE M.M.
34 11.3 Madison County
12 4.0 Oneida County
58 19.3 Oswego County

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/media/uploads/NY-23-top-lines.pdf

I am certain Doug will win, but will he then run in 2010 as a Republican? Where can one get more information on the Conservative Party?

metroryder on October 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM

That’s more likely than Scozzafava running as a Republican in 2010.

I am certain Doug will win, but will he then run in 2010 as a Republican? Where can one get more information on the Conservative Party?

Sweep ‘em out…everywhere. Back to real (non-progressive pinko) Democrats and (Democrat-lite) Republicans before it’s too late.

gary4205 on October 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Well said!