Obama to troops: “I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way”
posted at 9:24 pm on October 26, 2009 by Allahpundit
A noble and altogether proper sentiment, made somewhat less so by (a) reports of how much golf he’s been playing and (b) the inconvenient truth that there are troops in the field being endangered by the lack of reinforcements. I can only assume he’s defining “rush” here as “any speed faster than the speed I feel like going.” If not, then the obvious question — asked a thousand times but still unanswered as far as I know — is why this strategic reassessment wasn’t undertaken when he decided to replace McKiernan with McChrystal earlier this year. Especially since Bush’s own assessment last year provided “helpful” information, per Gibbs’s own admission.
According to ABC, it sounds like the new yardstick for “rush” is anytime before mid-November:
Sources tell ABC News that as of now President Obama will likely announce his decision about a new strategy in Afghanistan at some point between the Afghan run-off election, November 7, and the president’s departure for Tokyo, Japan, on Wednesday, November 11.
There is a chance the announcement may be delayed until the president’s return from the Asia trip on Friday, November 20, but as of now the plan is to have the announcement in that window.
Sources emphasize that no decision has yet been made, but as of now it looks as though the president is leaning towards sending more troops to Afghanistan, though not as many as Gen. Stanley McChrystal requested, 40,000.
Be sure to read this Danger Room piece on today’s helicopter nightmare in Afghanistan after you watch the clip. Boots on the ground aren’t the only thing we need more of.










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Sorry to be a getalife, but…
“Hey, let’s stay home and not vote for that A-hole “liberal” McCain and teach the GOP a lesson”
A lot of people did just that. Why?
Elections have consequences.
Del Dolemonte on October 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM
There you go again.
- Ronald Reagan
MB4 on October 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Ditto
tbear44 on October 26, 2009 at 11:49 PM
McChrystal’s plan is to clear and hold; it doesn’t get much simpler than that. To do clear and hold, you need a big force — much bigger than the one we’ve got there now.
Given that McChrystal has Petraeus’ second on the approach, I’d say that he clearly outranks your Cindy Sheehan sergeant in both wisdom and foresight, and stands head and shoulders above Ibama.
You’re no Ronald Reagan.
You remind me vaguely of Carole Herman, for some reason, but her volumes were her own writing, not incessant quotes from yet another clueless person
unclesmrgol on October 26, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Whoops. Sorry about the double post. Accidentally used the same box twice.
unclesmrgol on October 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Thanks to all, but I am not John Bernard (He lost his son). He was someone I quoted and linked to. I am not him.
Any who wish to pay their respects to him can read his blog at http://letthemfight.blogspot.com/
MB4 on October 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Cindy Sheehan sergeant? Are you referring to Marine First Sergent John Bernard or Marine Sergent Major Jim Sauer?
Strange that you can like McChrystal so much more than “Ibama” when McChrystal is “Ibama’s” hand picked general.
True, but I know when a quote from him applies.
How wonderful for you.
Which “clueless person” are you referring to, Marine First Sergent John Bernard or Marine Sergent Major Jim Sauer?
MB4 on October 27, 2009 at 12:15 AM
What we have here is the General (Obama’s hand picked general, General Stan McChrystal) involved in a great social experiment, with the plains of Afghanistan as his personal laboratory and our Marines and Soldiers as the rats. History is not on your side General (Obama’s hand picked general, General Stan McChrystal) and you are losing time and the support of the only segment of the population of this country who would normally support your efforts.
Admiral Mullen said in a letter to Senators Collins and Snowe (meant for me) that the ROE had not in fact changed with the ISAF Commander back in June 2009; The Rules of Engagement had only been ‘clarified’. Ganjgal is but one example of how that ‘clarification’ is being brought into question. The current investigation, if not buried by the Army, ISAF, SecDef or higher, is going to yield what we already know; that the rules are intentionally vague to offer maximum cover for those who have implemented them while exposing the decision makers on the ground and all at the expense of those prosecuting the war, O-5 and below. It is already painfully obvious to all, especially those on the ground, that before June we were blowing crap up and providing Air and Arty when needed and now; American lives are inferior to Afghan by our own rules and the UN has prosecutors in Kabul, gleaning after-action-reports looking for evidence they can use to prosecute Marines and Soldiers.
What General McChrystal, Sec Def Gates and President Obama need to remember is that they are sworn by oath to defend this country and our people – not protect the civilian population of another country or rebuild their country with our tax dollars and the blood of our children!
Semper Fidelis; John Bernard (This is not me)
MB4 on October 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
John Bernard, of course. And he’s an ex-Marine by my book, if you know what I mean.
Why, are you trying to hide behind the skirts of another man?
unclesmrgol on October 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM
“I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way…unless it suddenly becomes somehow politically expedient, in which case, get your asses over there!!”
Dopenstrange on October 27, 2009 at 12:49 AM
there’s ‘rushing’ and then there’s ‘making a decision’.
Phoenician on October 27, 2009 at 12:56 AM
I’d give many a penny for the Soldiers’ thoughts on this Ignoramus in Chief.
Schadenfreude on October 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM
I know what you mean. I also know what that says about you.
Why are you beating your wife?
MB4 on October 27, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Video: Obama’s Afghanistan Strategy Decision Making Process Captured on Time-Lapse Photography http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/obamas-afghanistan-strategy-decision.html
Mervis Winter on October 27, 2009 at 1:05 AM
You do realize, don’t you, that Marine First Sergent John Bernard and Marine Sergent Major Jim Sauer are basically “on the same page”? Perhaps you don’t or otherwise it would seem like you would have tried to blood libel both of them.
MB4 on October 27, 2009 at 1:08 AM
Nor will I ever rush to provide support that you might need.
Obama is stupid if he thinks providing reinforcements is sending troops “into harm’s way” is the same way an initial deployment of force is.
The American people certainly understand the difference.
blink on October 27, 2009 at 1:14 AM
I’d give many a penny for the Soldiers’ thoughts on this Ignoramus in Chief.
Schadenfreude on October 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM
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Don’t give too many, Schad — with Barry in da Hooouuse, you’re gonna’ need’em.
Dopenstrange on October 27, 2009 at 1:19 AM
I can’t beleve that he said he would sign that defense authorization bill this week. Is this the same bill that won’t be done untill December? http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/26/no-defense-appropriation-until-decmber/ what a lying POS!
bluestateconservative on October 27, 2009 at 1:34 AM
I love how, whenever Barry addresses the troops, he puts his tough-guy face on. The biggest travesty ever is having that whiny little anti-military, cry-baby, gutless-wonder as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. He’s not fit to be the den leader of the local cub scout troop.
Dopenstrange on October 27, 2009 at 1:35 AM
You’d think that since the votes of those serving overseas don’t count, Obama would rush to send all our military forces somewhere.
Left Coast Right Mind on October 27, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Whiz-bang in EVERY respect and respect for every man. That’s our man. CA-RUMBA.
betsyz on October 27, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Thanks for clarifying that. I’ll send my prayers to Mr. Bernard and his son, but I’m not taking back what I sent your way.
Loxodonta on October 27, 2009 at 2:54 AM
….
“I’d much rather hang you out to dry.”
CiC Barack Hussein Obama.
mmmm mmmm mmm
notropis on October 27, 2009 at 3:02 AM
Is he actually aware that there are soldiers “in harms way” right now? Soldiers who could use a f***ing hand over there?
Wait, this is too bizarre.
He does know that we’re already IN Afghanistan, yes?
The decision, numb nuts, is what to do about a war we’re already IN. Trust me; the troops who are already fighting it are not jumping up and down with joy to know that you’re going to take a really, really, really, long time to decide what you might want to do about that; and to pour over the latest poll results.
Hello, there in the bubble. Yeah, you. Mr. President.
NOW is not too soon for a decision.
You’re supposed to be the most brilliant man who’s ever lived on the face of the earth. Well, as one famous fictitious person might have said to another:
Brilliant IS as Brilliant DOES.
IndieDogg on October 27, 2009 at 3:15 AM
A Marine’s Family Says
It’s time to make a decision on Afghanistan.
by Kyle W. Nevins Joseph R. Nevins
10/23/2009 6:00:00 PM
http://weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=17110&R=1639361CA
Unfortunately the history and facts on the ground show that Obama will:
1. Vote present on this until he can figure out a way to do the most politically expedient move that will benefit “him”, not our mission or Soldiers on the ground.
2. What ever decision Obama makes will come with an expiration date.
3. What obstacles or problems Obama faces will be blamed on Bush.
4. Obama will placate or appease the jihadist and rogue leaders like Ahmadenijad, saving his anger and fight for private citizens like Rush or news outlets like FOX.
5. Obama will not send the resources necessary for victory
because he will try to appear dovish to his left wing base but also has to appear strong to the rest of America.
This will result in half measures followed up with Grand speeches parroted by his supporters in the MSM of how smart and committed he is. These half measures will do nothing but permit a slow bleed in Afghaninstan ,costing American lives,respect and support around the world,and embolden our enemies that will see Obama for the weak,naive President that he is.
The American people and our elected Congress needs to hold Obama to the promises he made concerning how important winning in Afghanistan/Pakistan is and the commitment to fulfilling this mission.
Obama and his democratic supporters have been telling us for years how much smarter they were and that they had a better plan born out of their “smart power”.
Obama put “his” own General in charge and presented “his” own strategy in March.
So far we have seen no evidence of “smart power” or has Obama enacted and resourced his own plan he put forth in March.
Time to put up or shut up liberals.
Either start impressing us with all of your “smart power” or get the he!! out of the way and let our military do it’s job.
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 3:23 AM
(via Black Five)
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 3:24 AM
What he meant to say was not “into harms way” but “into arms of gay(s)”
TTheoLogan on October 27, 2009 at 4:14 AM
All the “hate the military” left are probably thinking “Oh neat! Those awful military men are suffering incredible casualty rates. Maybe we can kill off all these throwbacks to cavemen and gorillas so they never plague us again.”
What other excuse can there be for their attitude?
{^_^}
herself on October 27, 2009 at 4:29 AM
Bastard.
If only Obama would commit the troops that McChrystal needs, and actually LEAD the nation instead of voting Present, every one of those soldiers he just addressed would rush to support their brothers and sisters in arms.
Then again, the tooth fairy is real, and so are unicorns.
/GRRRRRR
Wanderlust on October 27, 2009 at 5:07 AM
Great, we have a 3-level Commander in Chief thats in OJT status.
BDU-33 on October 27, 2009 at 5:19 AM
My oldest son is a US Marine. I just spoke to him about BHO. His words were, everybody here hates him. It is what it is.
Rudemeister on October 27, 2009 at 5:49 AM
Wouldn`t want to interfere with Obama`s weekly, several hour golf game.
A leader Obama is not. A speech reader, yes, a leader, no.
Keep in mind that in April Obama already announced the “new” strategy for Afghanistan. He is now working on the new, new strategy.
albill on October 27, 2009 at 6:30 AM
Obama is built on excuse making and blaming others.
CWforFreedom on October 27, 2009 at 6:39 AM
The country elected anti-military civilian leaders. Get over it already.
percysunshine on October 27, 2009 at 7:10 AM
Dithering is never a good strategy.
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 7:20 AM
Hate of the filthy lying coward by the military is what it is. It is the inherent distrust and loathing of the military by this CINC that scares me. He says he won’t needlessly send them in harm’s way when, in fact, his dithering has killed American soldiers. What does the filthy lying coward want to say to the families of those troops?
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 7:25 AM
He’s holding off reinforcements until after next weeks election. He should be impeached.
orlandocajun on October 27, 2009 at 8:02 AM
When community organizers govern…
Some one should inform this 4sshat there are tens of thousands of troops already in harms way.
Fired up!
clap clap
He’s got to go!!
clap clap
Fired up!
clap clap
He’s got to go!!
clap clap
Fired up!
clap clap
He’s got to go!!
clap clap
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locomotivebreath1901 on October 27, 2009 at 8:03 AM
Remember when President Lincoln fired the General leading the Union Army for “dithering”? Lincoln was decisive. Obama is anything but decisive. Anyone who buys the “spin” about solemn deliberation is either a limp-wristed beta male or a flaming feminist.
olesparkie on October 27, 2009 at 8:14 AM
Watching Obama speak, swing his head back and forth like a pendulum, makes me dizzy.
dissent555 on October 27, 2009 at 8:41 AM
And completely delusional. It sounds very Presidential to make statements about solemn deliberations. The filthy lying coward probably remembers seeing it in The American President or an episode of The West Wing.
Nevertheless, there is an important point missing here. That solemn decision was already made. What is happening here is a POTUS who is denying troops in harm’s way the resources they desperately need to continue the mission they were ordered to perform. It is the worst type of dereliction of duty for a CINC. But hey, as long as the bastard gets in his golf outings and unannounced visits to ice cream shops, all is right in Barry’s world.
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 8:48 AM
O
article 88 Of the UCMJ would be your obstacle in many cases.
erakis on October 27, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Look at the faces of the Troops behind Obama…they do not look happy. I am sure it is difficult for them to be used as props while their comrades are on the front lines waiting for reinforcements and the order from the Organizer in Chief.
djn on October 27, 2009 at 8:55 AM
When your friends are dying around you and your mission is not clear because your leader cannot “decide” what to do is a very lonely feeling. I understand what your son is feeling. I pray for him and his fellow Marines everyday.
Semper Fi!
kanda on October 27, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Hmmm….let’s see…the democRats, and Obumble, constantly said that Bush rushed to war in Iraq, yet it took about 16 months of failed diplomacy to get there. Obumble has had nearly 3 months to ponder McChrystal’s plan and he’s afraid of rushing the troops into harm’s way. Does anyone see the idiocy of the democRat party here?
Jarhead68 on October 27, 2009 at 8:56 AM
I’m not. Why are you still beating your wife?
If you’re going to be stupid, at least do it right.
unclesmrgol on October 27, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Last time I checked, the troops already were in harm’s way.
If Obama hasn’t figured that much out, he has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 9:27 AM
I had dinner with two Iraqi vets Saturday night and they echoed the same sentiments.
Obama is scary stupid.
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM
“I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way…or of sending you reinforcements once you’ve already been sent.
Nor will I rush through the sandtraps to send more equipment even though I’ve consistently said we must win this war. I shall not be hurried through the water hazards to have more helicopters; I will not–no, must not fly through my fairway game to approve more F-22s. That is my pledge to you.
And when I’m attending our weekly parties at the White House with big-name artists, and I’m salsa-dancing like Tom Delay on a Cialis/benzedrine bender, I shall never end the party early, merely to study the briefing books.
And I owe it to the soldiers, sailors and airmen of America not to hurry my half-court press or subtract even one letter from a friendly game of HORSE when I’m shooting hoops with my homies; you see, it just looks like I’m playing basketball. In reality, this is how I plot tactics and troop movements in a fluid and complex battle environment. This is also true of my strategic tennis game and my multi-lateral mountain biking. Don’t thank me–you’re welcome!”
Noel on October 27, 2009 at 9:43 AM
So do party nominations, champ.
spmat on October 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Ah, the Cindy Sheehan look alike contest page? By the way, John Bernard is a civilian and has been one for many years. He’s doing the Cindy Sheehan thing with the blind anger attacks because he thinks his son was lost for nothing. I’m betting his son is looking down and just shaking his head, much as Casey Sheehan must be doing with respect to his mother. It must be really sad to think your son died for nothing, but those demons are entirely self-inflicted.
I disagree with your statements about Jim Sauer. His position is quite different from that of “we aren’t there to build nations”. He seems quite happy with the concept of “clear and hold”, of which nation building is a critical part of “hold” in an insurgency of the type we are fighting.
I do honor our veterans when they deserve it, and refuse to honor their acts and words when they do not. If I always kowtowed to our veterans regardless of what stupid ideas they have rolling around in their heads, I’d have a big shrine for Army veteran Timothy McVeigh. I don’t.
I honor the rights enshrined within our Constitution, and nowhere within that document is anything that says we can’t perform nation building and quite a bit that says we should. We got to the top of the merchantile heap by doing so, and those countries who have heeded our lessons (South Korea, Germany, Japan, Italy, Panama, Phillipines) are doing well in the world. Our whole standard of living is based upon merchantilism, and an enlightened merchantilism says that people who have the same rights as we have are better suppliers and better customers. In addition, it certainly does help to fight an enemy on their own turf than to wait for them to come to ours.
unclesmrgol on October 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM
But I believe an election cancels out a party nomination, don’t you agree?
Just ask Ned Lamont. He has six fingers on his left hand.
unclesmrgol on October 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Sad, this is so sad. The best part of America is dying over in Afghanistan, while Obama does photo ops…I can’t imagine what those young men and women are feeling–it must be such a feeling of hopelessness, knowing they have a pu$$y for a CoIC.
Give a clear vision of the mission, or get the heck out! Give our troops the support they need, or bring them home!
lovingmyUSA on October 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM
The ugly fact is that there are three ways forward as far as Obama is concerned:
1. Provide the men and materiel to win, as GWB finally did in Iraq.
2. Pull out and take the blame as the whole region goes to hell.
3. Starve the effort, and wait for the body count to force Americans to demand withdrawal, then accept their demand for withdrawal and shrug your shoulders as the whole region goes to hell.
Guess which one Obama likes? Yes, #3 divides and radicalizes the country, discredits the military, and reduces American morale while erasing the victory in Iraq. What’s not for a Democrat to like about that?!
drunyan8315 on October 27, 2009 at 10:10 AM
YOU HAVE A LOT OF FREAKING GALL, COMPARING THIS FATHER TO CINDY SHEEHAN!!!!! He is nowhere LIKE that b*tch!!!
Bernard, 55, joined the Marines in 1972 and served 26 years on active and reserve duty, leading a platoon as a scout sniper in the first Gulf War in 1991.
He and his wife, Sharon, raised Joshua and their daughter, Katie, 25, in New Portland, population 800. The family attended Crossroads Bible Church in nearby Madison.
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/military/military_ap_maine_Fallen_Marine_father_wants_change_in_Afghanistan_20091013
lovingmyUSA on October 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Bozo is so FOS. While he plays golf, our people are getting killed. And all the other things he should be dealing with continue to go down the drain. What a piece of….
dogsoldier on October 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
The lying, jug-eared scumsucker had his speechwriters working overtime to come up with a phrase that would attempt to make his cowardice and calumny sound like a virtue. Totally transparent and entirely predictable considering the vile turd who spoke the words.
SKYFOX on October 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM
The cop-out king is constantly trying to cover his butt. Good lord this is sad.
rplat on October 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Bernard and many others are correct.
The ROE in Afghanistan takes the fight and decision making away from our Soldiers on the ground and leaves them indecisive,second guessing themselves and their actions which will get them killed.
Our enemies are basically getting better protection than our Soldiers on the ground.
Our need to win “hearts and minds” is not going to matter if we can;t defeat the enemy.
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM
We lost 8 more of our youth this morning . . . how many more lives will be lost before this fool will muster up the courage to make a decision? This is very sad and disgusting.
rplat on October 27, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Imagine FDR saying this absurdity after waiting years after Pearl Harbor. “I’m considering the proper response.”
It’s like when the girl looks blank when you offer her the diamond – by not saying yes, she really said no,idiot.
Don’t wait around for Obama to acknowledge what he really believes – the non-defense of America. He would put the American military in the same position he puts the unwanted unborn -let them die slowly. Now if the generals had asked for a five million man civilian Obama army…
Don L on October 27, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Of course not…he’ll just sit on his fat duff and make NO decision.
Dark-Star on October 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM
“The lying, jug-eared scumsucker …”
SKYFOX on October 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM
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Beautiful…
Dopenstrange on October 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM
As many know, the population centers like Kabul should be secured, but real change will happen when the tribes are turned.
All of Afghanistan’s history revolves around invaders easily taking the population centers only to be driven out over time by the tribes that are relentless and very efficient in using guerrilla tactics.
This is an interesting take on dealing with the tribes:
One Tribe At A Time
http://blog.stevenpressfield.com/
SP: Your idea of Tribal Police Forces and a Tribal Alliance aims to counter both warlordism and Talibanism. Is that right?
Of course the tribes are going to support and respect who is the strongest and makes a real commitment to the country.
Obama is showing weakness in both of these areas as the Taliban increases its numbers and attacks on a daily basis.
Wishy-Washy policy decisions and empty speeches don’t impress the war hardened warlords in the least.
Strength and commitment to victory is the message we need to send towards an Afghanistan “awakening” of corporation between the tribes and coalition forces.
We can defeat this enemy if obama gives our military the resources it needs to fight and ability to put it’s plans into action.
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Not only all the golfing belies his pose that he’s taking time to give deep thought to this decision, Mark Knoller of CBS said yesterday on Twitter that a scheduled meeting on Afghanistan had been shortened from three hours to 75 minutes so Obama could leave to attend the two Dem fundraisers last night.
As others noted, it was clear this egomaniacal jerk was also taking yet another (can he speak in public without doing so?) malicious swipe at GWB.
KittyLowrey on October 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Can’t I just eat my waffles?
Choke on ‘em, Champ.
bloviator on October 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM
My oldest son is a language analyst for the military. They have been training for a mission for a few months now. First they had the funds for training, then they didn’t have the funds for training, then they did. Now they are trained and ready to go to I believe Africa, (he can’t really say). However, the day before they were supposed to go, they find out the funding for the mission is on hold. He told me that everything is a total mess and no one knows what is going on from day to day. He and everyone else in his unit can hardly wait for a President who knows what he is doing.
Lily on October 27, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Bravo!
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Wonder if people are not understanding the nuance of his statements on this:
Obama would say it wasn`t him that sent the first troops into Afghanistan, it was George Bush – it is not Obama`s war, yet.
And since he is now contemplating it, he will not rush it. As if, in Obama`s mind, there is no war going on in Afghanistan…a George Bush caused war, but not an (American involved/Obama lead) war.
And since Obama did not start the military action (he inherited it) therefore the other statement Obama made holds true:
So once Obama sends troops into harms way then he will back them to the hilt. (But just the troops Obama sends in?)
Still in Obama`s mind this is Bush`s war, not Obama`s.
albill on October 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Hold on — I’m checking John Murtha’s Marine bio even as we speak.
Gee, he seems to have a wife and kiddies and a distinguished service record too. Gee, he’s so famous he’s got an airport named after him!
Now, what point were you making?
unclesmrgol on October 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM
More like the filthy lying coward in the White House going to ground zero on 9/12/01 and instead of giving the speech GWB gave about going out after the Islamists who killed 3000 we get the Patty Murray lecture about all the good things the Taliban did in Afghanistan and how much we are to blame for the atrocities of 9/11/01.
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Obama doesn’t understand the difference between this decision and the decision to invade Iraq, which looms ominously whenever he talks about acting without a plan.
We’re ALREADY IN AFGHANISTAN. Soldiers are there, dying. By depriving them of the resources they need to implement a new strategy, Obama forces them to stick to the old strategy, which won’t get us anywhere. Want to win? Send in more troops.
Sen. Ketchup- I mean Kerry, suggests that McChrystal’s plan is too bold. If the WH agrees, he should commit the same number of troops, but reduce the region we try to control at first. Bottom line, it takes boots on the ground to provide peace. Predator drones won’t accomplish this mission.
Remember when all the talk was about al-Maliki’s weak government? Funny how his position improved when the country wasn’t busy burying people from bombings, isn’t it? Just maybe, Kharzai can undergo a similar transformation.
hawksruleva on October 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Does this mean that he may find it acceptable to leave our troops hung out and exposed? Or that he may find it necessary to abandon Afghanistan, wave goodby to the folks there who supported us, and watch the Talbin roll in and take revenge?
The Taliban is sensing an opportunity, and stepping up the pressure. Obama could save lives merely by announcing a decision to send troops.
hawksruleva on October 27, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Barry doesn’t do decisions. Beyond that the filthy lying coward is more concerned about upsetting the left than he is about saving troops lives. His priorities are purely political and purely all about what is in it for him.
highhopes on October 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM
What a POSER!!!!
CynicalOptimist on October 27, 2009 at 12:02 PM
“I won’t rush you any help when you need it…” Sounds like a preview of Obamacare to me.
UnderstandingisPower on October 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM
There is another point that can be made…the longer he waits the more he indangers the troops that are already there. He said he would never leave the troops without the equipment they need to be successful. That includes needing more troops.
lwssdd on October 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Much like Hitler wouldn’t rush troops Normandy. Obama’s a failure of epic proportions.
TrickyDick on October 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Fox should be calling for him to make the decision by mid November or sooner, just keep hammering him, then change it in mid-November to late November.
Obama will never give Fox the credit for pushing him to make a decision…it will soon be apparent that Obama is making the decision based on political and not practical reasons.
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM
And seeing as they didn’t pass a budget for the war….
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 2:41 PM
PRESENT!
dhunter on October 27, 2009 at 2:49 PM
To all of you who seem to think Obama is doing something wrong here;
It.is.not.wrong.if.you.are.on.the other.side.
MikeA on October 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM
WTF are you talking about??? John Murtha–what does that have to do with John Bernard? Those are some serious drugs you are on!
lovingmyUSA on October 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM
…even if it kills you.
MikeA on October 27, 2009 at 3:09 PM
President Obama is practicing his surrender speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU4sVQV3Lhk
For those of you who have forgotten, some things are just worth repeating…
Roy Rogers on October 27, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I’ll be interested to see what recruiting (and perhaps more importantly) retention figures are if/when the economy picks up.
I remember how happy my husband and the other navy folks we knew were when Clinton left office and they could talk about their CIC without biting their tongues. But I suspect that given a choice between President 42 and President 44 right now, virtually all would rather have 42 back, then have to deal with 3 more years of this disaster.
Heck, we’re not active duty any more, and from a civilian, domestic policy standpoint, I’d still rather have to deal with 42 than 44.
LibraryGryffon on October 27, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Obama is Marie Antoinette in black face. “Our generallz want zee armaments and zee reinforzements? Let zem eat cake–er, bulletz—er—-whateveh!” This is now a war of attrition, folks. Are your pitchforks at a ready?
Driefromseattle on October 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM
OCTOBER DEADLIEST MONTH IN AFGHAN WAR
and what is Obama spending his time doing…..
….improving his handicap.
Baxter Greene on October 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM
This is clearly confusing the Taliban; They don’t know whether to laugh or shoot!
Cybergeezer on October 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Let me finish this back 9…
Never mind, cybergeezer is funny, mine was not….
right2bright on October 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Eight more of ours dead in Afghanistan, while The Commander and Thief waits.
Nalea on October 27, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Have not read the comments yet but will soon; the only opinion I have is when I saw the video.
What a sad(sometimes bitter) bunch he has behind him!
ProudPalinFan on October 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM
HondaV65, I don’t expect him to drop outta incognito in Afghanistan with a huge turkey.
I dunno how the troops would react…it’d be like, you know, a bar scene with pissed off biker dudes.
ProudPalinFan on October 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I will never rush to get you what you need to fight or to survive.–Obama
Our commitment, including Obama’s commitment, was already made after 9/11/01. So he wants to change his tune; he has no right to leave our military hanging. If Obama wants to “rush slowly” he still must begin with his best and strongest shot, to follow the advice from McChrystal that he requested. THEN, see about moving from here to there and home again.
Obama’s cowardly mannerism and tactic to rely too heavily upon the drone predator that takes out civilian bystander casualties along with the al Qaeda target is one of the worst problems our military on the ground has to deal with in Afghanistan.
McChrystal made it clear; Afghans don’t care why you killed their kinsman, women and children, only that you did kill them. And they’ll never forgive or forget any deaths, no matter how necessary and particularly when so needless.
Our drones are the high tech version of IEDs that kill and maim whoever happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. So far as civilization is concerned, whether Britain WWII or Afghanistan 2009, it is an evil and cowardly opponent that relies too much upon indiscriminate bombing, whether the Nazi rocket bombs landing across England or US predators attacking mountain tribes. It isn’t as though we never have a need and right to use the unmanned bombers; but to only do so is a sign of amorality and sub-humanity in a warriors’ culture. And Afghanistan IS a warriors’ tribal culture.
I noticed an ex-Marine who pulled out from the service when Iraq looked too hairy to stick with early on, is now a big wig military adviser/consultant who just sent in his letter of resignation, to campaign against any US involvement in Afghanistan. How convenient, just in time to give Obama an alternative darling to combat McChrystal and Petraeus in the media. Just what Obama wanted; a new version of Jack Murtha. Well, the blood is on Obama’s hands now. And for the first time in Michelle’s adult life, she’s proud of her damned spot. “Out! Out!”
maverick muse on October 27, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Obama simply knows nothing about war.
Nothing at all.
I would suggest he start with Sun Tzu, The Art of War. An oldie but then, so are the enemies tactics.
Freddy on October 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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