Gallup: More Americans identify as conservative than any other label
posted at 7:04 pm on October 26, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Good news, but a tad underwhelming when you look at the numbers. Right now it breaks out at 40/37/20 among conservatives, moderates, and liberals, respectively. Between 2006 and 2008, when the left was routing us at the polls, it was roughly … 37/37/22, a testament to how toxic progressives’ brand is even at the best of times. In fact, between the second and third quarters of this year, conservatives actually lost a point while moderates gained two. Not sure what explains that, although as The One moves further left, crazy wingnut ideas like “we shouldn’t create a new federal health-care entitlement that will never, ever pay for itself” gain traction among the center and become de facto moderate positions. Same with the left vis-a-vis opposition to Iraq over the last three years.
If you want to see where the real movement is, follow the link, scroll down, and note the net gains from last year to this year among independents on seven individual issues. All of them are in double digits except one, and the net gain there is nine points. Quote:
Conservatism is most prevalent among Republicans. However, the overall increase in this ideological stance since 2008 comes largely from political independents, among whom 35% say they are conservatives thus far in 2009 — compared with 29% last year. Independents have also become more conservative on a number of specific policy issues, including government and union power, the role of government relative to promoting values, gun laws, immigration, global warming, and abortion. Republicans, most of whom considered themselves ideologically conservative in 2008, have also grown more conservative on several of these issues this year, while less change is seen among Democrats.
All of this has potentially important implications at the ballot box, particularly for the 2010 midterm elections. The question is whether increased conservatism, particularly among independents, will translate into heightened support for Republican candidates.
Right now, it appears it may. Although Gallup polling continues to show the Democratic Party leading the Republican Party in Americans’ party identification, that lead has been narrowing since the beginning of the year and now stands at six points, the smallest since 2005.
This is probably less a case of conservatism winning over independents than The One’s liberalism simply driving them back into the tent. As disaffected Republicans drained out of the GOP over the last few years, doubtless many of them identified (for a time, at least) as not only independent but, relatively speaking, moderate. Now that they’re reacting to Obama instead of Bush, they’re going to trend back the other way, first as conservatives and then — per Gallup’s trend in party ID — as Republicans. Exit question: Is that good news for Palin, Pawlenty, and other self-styled “true conservative” candidates ahead of 2012, though? The bigger the tent gets before the primaries, with indies bleeding back into the GOP, the less potent the “true conservative” brand is.
Update: Even better than the Gallup poll: In a state won by Obama last year by six points, Republican Bob McDonnell is cruising to victory on an 11-point cushion.
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I think it provers that moderates really arent all that powerful. They dont have core beliefs and swing back and forth.
William Amos on October 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM
There’s a reason Democrats tend to campaign as Republicans.
BadgerHawk on October 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Isn’t it a little too early to start guessing now?
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Sweet, I am the majority and didn’t have to sacrifice my independent thought to get there.
Daemonocracy on October 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM
I think at this moment the American people are probably more Libertarian type. Sigh.
terryannonline on October 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM
The only sigh needs to be that the RNC is exactly opposite of what it should be. It is big government social cons, when it should be small government social moderates.
lorien1973 on October 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Not really…conservatism (fiscal restraint, strong defense, American interest based foreign policy, pro-small business) will begin to become mainstream as the consequences of a radical left administration starts to sink in. The thing is to make these core platform issues and stick with them…people will get it.
AUINSC on October 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM
I see a trend here…
Seven Percent Solution on October 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Than why did they elect a weak-kneed, metrosexual, pro-abortion, anti-business, small minded Marxist as president?
Star20 on October 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Nationwide political polling has been going on since the 1950s and the results on this theme have not changed much: about a fifth of Americans are willing to call themselves liberals–and that’s all. Only the Hard Core Kool-Aid Brigade wears the “liberal” tag proudly
If you take out the option of calling yourself a ‘moderate’, conservatives out-poll libtards by more than 2 to 1
Janos Hunyadi on October 26, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Actually I think on social issues are probably the only area the American people don’t agree with Libertarians. If gay marriage couldn’t pass in California, good luck with the rest of the country.
terryannonline on October 26, 2009 at 7:12 PM
+100
BuckNutty on October 26, 2009 at 7:12 PM
A wrecking ball doesn’t have core beliefs and swings back and forth. Shall we say that a wrecking ball is powerful or not?
Kralizec on October 26, 2009 at 7:13 PM
so do swings…
but you don’t see riding a wrecking ball. Do you?
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Try another metaphor…there are way too many jokes in that one.
AUINSC on October 26, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Which would tend to make one think Republicans would also want to campaign as Republicans. Funny how it doesn’t always seem work out that way.
JellyToast on October 26, 2009 at 7:15 PM
I could live with this. Fiscally conservative, and socially conservative-libertarian is better.
Well put Lorien.
portlandon on October 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM
well, brother, most Americans don’t know or care all that much about politics. Polls consistently show that only about 1 out of 6 can identify the two sides of three or more current political issues–15 percent
That goes up to maybe 20 percent in the month or so before a prez election, but drops again afterwards. Factor in the DoucheBag Media lying and fantasizing, and most people can be misled
until sh_t starts hitting their own fan………
Janos Hunyadi on October 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Because he lied. And he lied, and lied and lied some more. Now, more than half of our Nation is in a state of shock at what and who this person really is.
Key West Reader on October 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Get with the program if you want to be REAL.
A democrat loss will not be due to Obama.
A democrat win will be solely due to Obama.
That is all from the American Pravda (AP).
jukin on October 26, 2009 at 7:17 PM
The problem is, when those “independents” come into the tent, there is no definability within the tent. They are not met with an alternate philosophy of government, rather a similar one but smaller. Right now the time is ripe for a strong Republican coalition of former politicians, former military, and large and small businessmen to begin to communicate in a clear and concise manner the benefit of the conservative approach to governance, military, and commerce. We are squandering away something really moving. Wake up Steele!
Weight of Glory on October 26, 2009 at 7:18 PM
when dazzeling the masses. Calling bull sh!t, ice cream is the best way for everyone to want to elect that person.. for the free icecream. To bad it on;y comes in one flavor.
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Because he campaigned on tax cuts and the people fell for it, even though his record of voting against tax cuts was thrown in their faces time and time again. They wanted to believe he was more conservative than McCain/Palin painted him out to be.
And he wasn’t Bush. The anti-Bush sentiment in this country was huge and it guaranteed any Democrat was going to be the next President.
yogi41 on October 26, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Unfortunately, most of Obama voters don’t even know what a liberal or a conservative is…
RedbonePro on October 26, 2009 at 7:21 PM
1.Bush Fatigue
2.Economic Blame (falsely assined)
3.McCain gave up in September
4.Media malpractice
portlandon on October 26, 2009 at 7:22 PM
assined= assigned
portlandon on October 26, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Yea; Those brown streaks in your shorts is milk chocolate!
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:22 PM
The only problem is that 50% of the electorate has no idea what conservative means. A plurality of Republican congress critters have the same difficulty. They aren’t RINOs they are CINOs.
Meremortal on October 26, 2009 at 7:22 PM
5. Ignorance
RedbonePro on October 26, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I would really like to see Conservatives win NY23, New Jersey, Virgina and Mass. What an impact that would have.
A GOP win for the Mass Senate seat would really ice the cake.
dogsoldier on October 26, 2009 at 7:23 PM
What I found interesting was that 72% of Republicans identified themselves as conservatives….I seem to recall a poll not too long ago done by Rasmussen saying that 73% of republicans said the congressional GOP was out of touch.
Coincidence?
clement on October 26, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Ahhh I didn’t vote for the great fake dope.
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Do your neighbors know you post on this site? I’ll be watching Google Earth to see if you go up in flames.
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:25 PM
What is your continued beef with libertarians?
John the Libertarian on October 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM
I assume the number identifying as “liberal” will continue to drop as more and more people realize that today’s “liberal” actually means communist.
darwin on October 26, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Proposition 8 (gay marriage ban) wouldn’t have passed in CA without the support of Obama voters. It seems black Americans don’t like to have their civil rights struggle equated with the struggle for homosexual rights.
I don’t care if people want to do things in their bedroom that I don’t do, but if they then want to control which guns I can have we have a problem.
NTWR on October 26, 2009 at 7:28 PM
MY ULTIMATE NIGHT OUT; TO GO OUT BAR HOPPING WITH THESE POSTERS ON HOT AIR!
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:29 PM
I disagree, we win when we run “true conservatives.” We lose when we run “reach across the aisle” RINO’s. Build a true conservative tent and they will come.
farright on October 26, 2009 at 7:30 PM
LOL. Yeah, I have a “special” car just for election season. It gets kicked, keyed, spit on, dented, & tires flattened. I work in downtown Portland so I’m surprised it hasn’t been set on fire. There’s always ‘12, If any sticker will get them ready to burn me out it’s the Palin ‘12 sticker.
portlandon on October 26, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Allahpundit, you won’t be allowed to get away with putting Tim “Cap N Trade” Pawlenty in the same class of true conservative as Sarah Palin.
milemarker2020 on October 26, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I kid I kid
CWforFreedom on October 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM
It’s Bush’s fault. /s
Actually from talking to my more moderate family members, they thought they were getting a centrist.
Annietxgrl on October 26, 2009 at 7:34 PM
What are you smoking?
You know the rule.. puff puff pass… come on get with the program.
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM
I think it’s more a case of different sets of people calling themselves moderates at any given time.
In any case, next Tuesday is going to be quite a day.
DaveS on October 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM
One you can park and forget, I hope.
(I’m not an agent for the government, I swear).
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I haven’t had a toke since 1985; That shid’s too extreme today.
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I usually do the pub crawl, hopping is for wabbits. But otherwise I agree with you.
Geochelone on October 26, 2009 at 7:47 PM
The One’s liberalism simply driving them back into the tent.
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Well,thats a bit helpful!
And,purging the moderates at the entrance of the tent
will also be helpful!!(Sarc)
canopfor on October 26, 2009 at 7:47 PM
The Dems are pretty desperate and getting hysterical. Today, I saw a bunch of new political signs on the roads “McDonnell Cuts Schools!” It is the first time I have seen negative political signs in Northern Virginia.
Gabe on October 26, 2009 at 7:47 PM
I would like to see a poll on those who voted for BO that are already sorry they did…
d1carter on October 26, 2009 at 7:49 PM
You haven’t lived, yet, buddy; Too bad your generation has to go through this shid.
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:50 PM
What are you smoking?
You know the rule.. puff puff pass… come on get with the program.
upinak on October 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM
upinak: I’m staying with tea,did that nasty stuff when I was a kid,hehe:)
canopfor on October 26, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Another great hoot; Cybergeezer out!
Cybergeezer on October 26, 2009 at 7:52 PM
I know many people who call themselves Moderate because they are Fiscal Cons / Libertarian or Soc Moderates.
They don’t call themselves Republican beause they don’t really see the Repubs as either Fiscal Cons (thanks Bush), and see them as Social Cons (ie the Religious Right).
Pundits try WAY too hard to take somthing that should be placed on a TWO axis chart (so you can have Fiscal Policy on one axis, Social Policy on another) and place it on a single axis chart…
I, for instance, am a Fiscal Con / libertarian… am I a True Conservative? Some say yes… others say no…
Romeo13 on October 26, 2009 at 7:56 PM
He lied about pretty much everything, and the MSM covered for him. Never has this country been saddled with such a pathetic, weak, semi-man and malignant narcissist.
Itchee Dryback on October 26, 2009 at 8:00 PM
But moderates are powerful enough to make us lose elections when they abandon us, and they’re powerful enough to give liberals their greatest control over our government in decades. So, I’d say these meandering swing voters are a very powerful group that we need to attract as many of as possible, as often and long as possible. How we do that, while retaining our principles, I’m not exactly sure. I’m willing to change my tone, I’m willing to reach out, I’m even willing to make reasonable compromises. but I’m not willing for us to abandon our principles.
On the other hand, I don’t think dismissing these people and disparaging them is the way to win their hearts, minds and votes.
Loxodonta on October 26, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Real key is that almost 2/3rds of voters, poll after poll, want smaller government and fiscal responsibility.
IF the Repubs would not fight Social Con battles quite so much, and ran on a Fiscal Con Platform, they’d be in power forever… and then could stop the Social Liberal movement dead in its tracks.
But they don’t get it.
Romeo13 on October 26, 2009 at 8:07 PM
They are the self-indulgent Right version of liberalism. Whatever feels goods.
terryannonline on October 26, 2009 at 8:10 PM
My wife, daughter and I all drained out of the GOP since 2002. While we all registered as independents, we always self identified as conservative. A lot of conservatives I know did the same thing.
As to the GOP it has rarely been a truly conservative party. It has mostly been a moderate party that drew conservatives because we had no place else to go. Goldwater and Reagan changed the perceptions but look at the reality of what the GOP has supported and you will realize that Goldwater and Reagan were conservative anomolies in an otherwise moderate apparatus.
chemman on October 26, 2009 at 8:18 PM
While I don’t like the harsh and bitter tone of much of the infighting, I do want there to be differences of opinion among conservatives. I think this is one of our strengths. If I never listen to different views, how can I learn, change my opinion, or grow?
I agree with you that at the moment, we desperately need to promote more fiscal conservative views. Somehow, fiscal conservatism has to be able to both attract social conservatives, and not be so draconian that we repel the moderates.
Loxodonta on October 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM
As a conservative evangelical I would support what you have laid out. Further the social issues should be returned to the crucible of the state and allow the ideas marketplace to determine their outcome.
chemman on October 26, 2009 at 8:21 PM
In my opinion you meet the criteria of being a conservative.
I support many but not all libertarian position. It may be that things I don’t support aren’t truly libertarian positions but I haven’t had many discussions with serious libertarians. I wouldn’t mind exploring the differences.
chemman on October 26, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Alternate exit answer – given the only thing left in the “Republican” tent is moderates, the more potent the “true conservative” brand is.
I suppose the operative question is whether the GOP is headed the way of the Whigs.
steveegg on October 26, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Yeah… just as the Conservative tag is a bit muddled right now… the Libertarian tag is even worse…
I’m not a whacko semi Anarchist Libertarian… so lately I’ve been playing with the Term Origionalist (as in the Constitution) to self identify…
Romeo13 on October 26, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Generalize much? The kind of lip curling, snarky comment such as “self indulgent” is one of many reasons a lot of “moderates” will continue to label some conservatives as “neo-cons”. Do you know why I respect Sarah Palin so much? She appeared to be non-judgemental; she focused on the fiscal conservative message more than the social conservative one, because I believe she knows the way to persuade moderates is with her message of limited government, low taxes, stronge domestic energy, and personal liberty. That will appeal to voters of all flavors (well, except for progressives).
Annietxgrl on October 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM
To me, dismissing all libertarians as self-indulgent is like dismissing all fiscal conservatives as greedy, or dismissing all moderates as mushy.
I know some libertarians whom I believe are not self-indulgent, whatever-feels-good type people. Their beliefs are based on principle. I agree with some, but disagree with others, as I believe some libertarian positions have moral, ethical and social consequences that I cannot approve. Yet, I think conservatives and libertarians can ally on many issues. Just as I believe that conservatives and moderates can work together on may policies.
Loxodonta on October 26, 2009 at 9:09 PM
++ you said it better than I did.
Annietxgrl on October 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Well said…
One of the things I like about Sarah is that she lives her personal beliefs, without really PREACHING those beliefs…. she lives it, she does not Prostelyze it…
Romeo13 on October 26, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Meh. These numbers have remained within a couple points either way for many years.
n0doz on October 26, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Gallup: More Americans identify as
conservativeatheist than any other labelFIFY AP
Fuquay Steve on October 26, 2009 at 9:35 PM
atheist Don’t you mean agnostic?
Annietxgrl on October 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Gotta love the fence-sitting independents..left of center today right of center tomorrow if it doesn’t work out.
Sorry, guys…no reset button for presidential elections and we don’t have any parliamentary no confidence votes.
Dr. ZhivBlago on October 26, 2009 at 9:52 PM
If we take back the House in 2010, I lay odds a lot of reset buttons are going to get pushed in the White House.
Yes we can!
Loxodonta on October 26, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Living, as I do, in the belly of the beast (the bluest of the blue states,) I meet a lot of “secret conservatives.
Push, poke, prod; you’ll find many people who believe as we do, but don’t want to admit it: the result, I think, of 40+ years of media ‘branding.’
Conservative = bad.
Conservative = repressed.
Conservative = interested in taking away your rights.
Lots of folks are one conversation away from showing their true colors, and joining us in the light.
So, yes, there’s lots of “running to the right, in order to capture the real mood of the electorate.
Keep reaching out, conservatives: there’s more of us than anybody thinks.
massrighty on October 26, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Even with all the sour mash, I cranked out the above.
Note to trolls: this is why we think you can do a better job with your posts.
massrighty on October 26, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Me three; I think a re-energized conservative base, focused on fiscal and small-government issues, is the way to build back up.
Then, when we’re in charge, we can decide what to do on the social policy side.
massrighty on October 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Mighty broad brush, that;
Care to defend it with examples, and proofs?
massrighty on October 26, 2009 at 10:14 PM
CJ and his minions heads are exploding.
Blake on October 26, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Um… how about the libertarians that say “LET’S GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN BECAUSE I DON’T LIKE WAR!”
terryannonline on October 26, 2009 at 10:31 PM
A small, very loud group of one subset of libertarian thought.
Don’t confuse volume with consensus.
massrighty on October 26, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Drat, you beat me to it!
Cylor on October 27, 2009 at 12:30 AM
“They dont have core beliefs and swing back and forth.”
That is what MAKES them so powerful. Neither the libs nor the conservatives have enough votes to win by themselves. It is the independents who decide the election.
If you have 47% of the electorate voting for the conservative candidate and 20% voting for the liberal, it is how the 37% of the moderates break that decides the election.
I don’t like the term “moderate”, though. I don’t align completely with the “conservatives” on all issues nor do I align with much of the liberal agenda but I don’t consider myself “moderate” at all.
I favor a strong defense, support private enterprise, favor limiting the federal government, believe issues such as gay marriage and abortion should be left to the various states to decide. I believe a solution to the immigration problem should be reached and would favor something like making work permits available for $1000 and denial of citizenship to children of permit holders born in the US. Arrest or unemployment would result in revocation of the permit and deportation. Voluntary repatriation within 3 months after the loss of a job would allow the permit holder to return upon proof of employment. After completion of military service or 10 years here with a clean record, consistent employment, payment of taxes, and demonstrated command of english, one could BEGIN the process of citizenship.
But I am also pro choice at the federal level and believe the decision on allowing it or not allowing it should be made by the states. I am also against such things as teaching “intelligent design” or any creationism of any sort (ANY religion’s creation belief) in the public schools so I am not in alignment with many conservatives on some issues. I don’t consider myself “moderate” because I am not particularly moderate in my belief in these things.
I believe our current welfare system helps people to death. It treats a symptom but does not address the causes of poverty and gives a disincentive for self reliance. These programs perpetuate poverty through the generations.
I generally see “liberals” as “dangerous” in economics, defense, and the social fabric. I see “conservatives” as dangerous in certain social aspects. There isn’t a party that reflects my views entirely but the Republicans “suck less” in general according to my values.
A “conservative” candidate coming out strongly about teaching creationism in the public schools would lose my vote unless my district had school choice and vouchers so I could pull my kids out of the public schools and place them where I want them placed. We are Christians and we believe in creation but church is the place for that teaching, not the school. What if my district eventually is populated by people of a different religion? What if they want to teach their religion in the school? What if they want to teach that the world was created by a turtle or something and they are the majority population? Religion should be kept out of the school because there are so many of them. If one religion is allowed in, then they all need to be allowed in and soon the school is teaching various religions and has no time to teach math.
The “moderates” are powerful because neither of the mainstream parties has enough people to carry an election and which way the moderates break decides the winner.
crosspatch on October 27, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Run for office and I will support you. Segregating your personal and policy stances is the key. It distills down to Sarah P’s statement made in support of Hoffmann:
I support limited government, lower taxes, strong national defense, and individual incentive. ( Not exact quote). These four planks are all that are needed to describe a party. Forget the forty plank strategy that is sure to tick off practically everyone or put them into the ‘lesser of two evils’ dilemma.
GnuBreed on October 27, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Classic Allahpundit!
Sharke on October 27, 2009 at 2:00 AM
That Party is way too tiny to even consider this conclusion. Unless, of course, you meant a small ‘l’ libertarian. They are two different things.
anuts on October 27, 2009 at 5:03 AM
You say that like VA is a nomimally blue state. It isn’t. With the exception of Fairfax County (lots of DC and federal workers live there and the county is growing), the state is by and large moderate to conservative, emphasis on the conservative. When Bill Clinton crushed Dole in 1996, Dole still managed to eke out a 4% win in VA. 2006 and 2008 were a combination of Bush fatigue and “Ooh, look at the pretty candidate”. Also, 2008 increased the black vote to pretty much its maximum level. Absent the particular set of variables that I’ve set forth above, an average Republican will beat and average Democrat for governor in Virginia. This year, we’ve got a decent Republican candidate versus a short bus Democrat one, so the results are pretty much what you’d expect. I predict Deeds loses by 12%-15% next Tuesday.
I will offer one caveat about VA: the voters tend to support the opposition party of the sitting president for governor.
Physics Geek on October 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM
There are two problems.
The liberals have historically owned the high ground of the media.
This allows them to magnify the flaws of Republicans while hiding their own shortcomings. Since most people, regardless of their political philosophy get their information from the news, this creates a disgust with Republicans that often suppresses the Republican vote.
Secondly, our Republican leadership is doing everything in it’s power to tell conservatives to stay home, their help isn’t wanted.
While it’s true that there are more conservatives in the Republican party, it’s also true that conservatives have no party that wants and supports them.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM
It is possible to believe that something is wrong, without concurrently believing that it is the responsibility of govt to do something about it.
The Bible teaches that homosexuality is a sin. However the Bible also teaches that sin is between God and man, not man and government.
WHile it does concern me when others sin, I have no right to use the coercive power of govt to force others to live up to my moral standards. So long as what they are doing is consensual, I have no legal right, or moral authority to do anything about it.
The limit of my power in this area is the power all free men and women have. The right to voice my opinion.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM
The vocal minority defines the group?
There are many valid reasons for prefering a foreign policy that focuses on non-involvement in the problems of the rest of the world.
As a libertarian, it is my belief that the War on Terror is not one these. Our enemy has declared his willingness to take his fight to us. He will continue to attack us, whether we respond or not. In such a case, taking the fight to the enemy is the only rational response.
Not everyone sees it that way. That’s life in a democracy.
MarkTheGreat on October 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM
I take such news with a heavy dose of salt. I know a few people who call themselves “conservatives” but voted for Obama. Does not compute.
evergreen on October 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM
It may be that the two coincide in the RNC, but social cons are not “big government.” Gay marriage, for instance, is an imposition by the state on an institution that is inherent to humanity, not only to traditional religion. Abortion is abridgement of the civil rights of the baby. Both are small government issues.
evergreen on October 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM
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