Video: Gingrich answers Hoffman supporter at book signing

posted at 11:00 am on October 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Lisa Miller, organizer for Tea Party Washington DC, tracks down Newt Gingrich at a bookstore while he promotes his latest novel, To Try Men’s Souls.  Miller sets up the interview outside the bookstore by reviewing NY23 candidate Dede Scozzafava’s policy record, then goes inside and asks Newt (politely, it seems) what he was thinking when he endorsed Scozzafava. Chris at HAP captures the transcript of Newt’s response, but this encounter has more than one instructive moment:

Gingrich: “Lets just start with, she is the nominee of the local party, my bias is to be for the nominee of the local party, and I don’t second guess the local party, she has signed a no tax increase pledge, she is endorsed by the National Rifle Association, she has come out against Cap and Trade, [crosstalk] she is opposed to the Obama Health Care plan, she will vote for John Boehner instead of Nancy Pelosi.

All of those things together make her it seems to me, a legitimate, authentic, Republican nominee. In addition, the last poll that came out yesterday, she is well ahead of, and she is much more likely to beat the Democrat than Hoffman because Hoffman doesn’t live in the district, he’s never won an election in the district, she represents the biggest county in the district, she actually knows the local issues, and Hoffman has says publicly he doesn’t know the local issues..

So I just think it is a mistake for the Conservative movement, to think splitting in the special elections is a smart idea, if we give that seat to the Democrats, shame on us…

Uh … isn’t Miller, as a Tea Party organizer, supposed to be a loose cannon, out of control, screaming epithets and acting irrationally? Isn’t that the impression that the media leaves when they cover these events? Yet here we have Miller calmly approaching Gingrich, politely asking her question, and thanking him for his cooperation after getting a full answer from Gingrich. Why, it’s almost like Tea Party organizers were normal, rational, thinking Americans. Imagine that!

For that matter, kudos to Newt as well.  He actually responded substantively to Miller’s polite question, although I disagree with his answer, which I’ll get to in a moment.   That’s a lot more responsiveness to a private citizen than we’ve seen from many elected officials — and it certainly beats the hysterical and slanderous response Scozzafava had when an actual reporter, Weekly Standard’s John McCormack, tried to ask her about those policy positions Newt reviews in the video.

But Newt’s still wrong.  First, the NRCC and the RNC have the duty to elect endorsed Republican candidates, so one cannot blame them for following the lead of local party officials — but that’s not Newt’s role unless he chooses it for himself.  He has held himself up as a leader of conservatives more than the Republican Party.  Next, the idea that we should refrain from criticizing party bosses for their candidate selection reminds me somewhat of my experience at WCPAC, when I was told it was “the height of rudeness” to criticize its organizers while covering it.  Scozzafava did not get the endorsement through a convention process, after all, but in a closed-room meeting of sorts with the party leaders of the eleven counties in that district.  I’m also not sure Newt has all of those policy positions correct, and he fails to mention that Scozzafava backs Card Check, which dumps the secret ballot in organizing elections and leaves working people at the tender mercies of union bosses, as well as imposing federal control over compensation for all American industries through its mandatory arbitration clause.  That’s hardly conservative.

Besides, this is a special election, and the same seat comes up again next year.  If Scozzafava wins it, it will make it more difficult for a fiscal conservative to dislodge her in the 2010 primary.  If the Democrat wins it, Pelosi wins one more vote for a year in a chamber which already gives her a 70-seat majority, and Hoffman can run as the truly Republican candidate in 2010.

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Even if the Dem wins and votes for Cap and Trade and ObamaCare?

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Crap&Trade already passed the House and doesn’t need NY-23 to pass the final bill, if the Senate pushes through – which would be with the help of traitors like McShame, Snowe, and the rest of the back-stabbing turds. And, if you think that Scozzafava will be a definite vote against national socialized health care, then you are kidding yourself.

progressoverpeace on October 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I will also add that I think Newt Gringrich is setting himself for a presidential run in 2012. He knows that he’s a public image of being a fierce ideological partisan. So I think he is doing this to show he’s no problems with moderates.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Newt will never be president.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Newt’s explanation for the Ms. Pelosi global warming commercial was that it gave him a seat at the table.
Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM

This perfectly summarizes the ignorance regarding the nature of the Left still at the highest levels of conservatism and the GOP. There is no “seat”, there isn’t even a “table,” and for Newt not to know this by now is sinkingly sad.

rrpjr on October 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Newt will never be president.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I think he’s a long shot. But I think he is right that he does have a public image problem of being a fierce ideological partisan because of his opposing Clinton days. And he definately has ZERO chance of winning if the public views him as firebreather.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Yah but Scuzza signed a pledge. She signed it, right here see?

Bishop on October 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

But I wanna see the ScuzzaFax

Wade on October 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I gotta admit, Newt makes a persuasive argument. I admire him for sticking to his guns.

But I’d add an additional objection to Hoffman (though, I do hope he ultimately wins if he’s the one ahead of the Dem on election day).

Conservative hypocrisy.

Every election cycle the Libertarian Party runs hundreds of candidates nationwide. You don’t see Conservatives jumping up to endorse them.

ericdondero on October 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Every election cycle the Libertarian Party runs hundreds of candidates nationwide. You don’t see Conservatives jumping up to endorse them.

ericdondero on October 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Uh, maybe because conservatives are conservatives and not libertarian. I would never vote Libertarian.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Cap and Trade has already passed the House thanks to turncoat R’s.

The Dems have a 70+ vote majority in the House another Dem actually won’t make a difference when it comes to Obamacare.
If they can’t get it through based on a 70+ majority now they won’t with another vote.

chemman on October 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

According to RedState, “Scozzafava Declares Herself Part of Abramoff Wing of GOP: Funnels Campaign Cash to Family.”

If Scozzafava gets elected, she’ll fit right in.

Way to go, Newt.

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Since most of us can’t vote in NY23 the most we can do is b!tch and donate. Both of those things will be heard by the GOP.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM

The Dems have a 70+ vote majority in the House another Dem actually won’t make a difference when it comes to Obamacare.
If they can’t get it through based on a 70+ majority now they won’t with another vote.

chemman on October 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Well geez then why don’t we just let the Dem win?

/sarc

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I read that also, already funneling campaign funds to relatives. Yes, please, let’s elect her.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

That would be a good argument if Scuz was actually a moderate, she’s not.

chemman on October 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Newt will never be President because he can’t go back and un-leave his cancer stricken wife. It would be like hunting in a zoo for Dems and the media.

” Newt dumped cancer-stricken 1st wife. When his pastor criticized him for not supporting his two kids, he left the church. Newt dumped 2nd wife after cheating on her with the Congressional aide who is now his 3rd wife.”

Oh, yeah, that would be fun.

Marcus on October 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Let’s dispel a myth here.

If Democrat Owens wins this election – he’s still got to run for reelection next year.

When he does – the GOP will have a better candidate than “The Scozz” and Owens will have a record of playing along with Nancy Pelosi – which will make winning the seat a “cake walk” for the GOP.

But if Scozz wins this election – we’ll have a liberal Republican in office which the local party officials will feel obligated to support for reelection.

If Hoffman doesn’t make it in this time – he may well make it in next year – especially with the cash he’s bringing in now.

So yes – it’s better for a Democrat to win this seat than the Scozz – if that’s what it comes down to.

HondaV65 on October 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

I will also add that I think Newt Gringrich is setting himself for a presidential run in 2012. He knows that he’s a public image of being a fierce ideological partisan. So I think he is doing this to show he’s no problems with moderates.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

You’re post makes no sense. ” fierce ideological partisan ” and ” no problem with moderates “. This does not compute!

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Newt Gingrich will never be President. He is an Uber McCain. The democrats will still see him as another evil conservative, the conservatives will see him as a sell-out leftist, and the RINOs will vote democrat anyway. At least McCain had his military and POW experiences.

chicagojedi on October 25, 2009 at 1:38 PM

You’re post makes no sense. ” fierce ideological partisan ” and ” no problem with moderates “. This does not compute!

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

He’s trying to change his image from a “fierce ideological partisan” to one that is less so.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

What do you think conservatives will think of Newt when ” he’s no problems with moderates “? I think posters have already answered that.

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

The democrats will still see him as another evil conservative, the conservatives will see him as a sell-out leftist, and the RINOs will vote democrat anyway.

Excuse me but how is Newt of all people a RINO. I guess you can conceivably argue that McCain is a RINO but not Newt Gingrich? Newt is a conservative. I don’t see how anyone can argue otherwise. That is weird.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

According to RedState, “Scozzafava Declares Herself Part of Abramoff Wing of GOP: Funnels Campaign Cash to Family.”

If Scozzafava gets elected, she’ll fit right in.

Way to go, Newt.

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I read that also, already funneling campaign funds to relatives. Yes, please, let’s elect her.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

RedState Link: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/23/scozzafava-declares-herself-part-of-abramoff-wing-of-gop-funnels-campaign-cash-to-family/

Latest from RedState:

NRCC Officials Feeling Very Threatened By Hoffman

Posted by Erick Erickson
Sunday, October 25th at 12:51PM EDT

The NRCC admits it is planning a relentless barrage against Doug Hoffman so that Scozzafava does not come in third.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/25/nrcc-officials-feeling-very-threatened-by-hoffman/

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I love to listen to Newt, he’s an idea man but the dirt they have on him is horrific. And what they don’t have they will make up. He needs to relax and enjoy where he is.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Interesting plan, alienate your contributing base. Wouldn’t it be better to just tell people how great she is?

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Newt as a presidential candidate is TOAST! This endorsement just finished him. ( in my humble opinion)

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Your argument was that the dem winning could make a difference between now and the 2010 elections. My point is that Owens winning is not a situation worth crying over. The Dems have the numbers to pass their agenda with or without Owens.
I have given up on the GOP saying stick with us we’ll do better next election cycle. It has gotten progressively worse since I became eligible to vote in 1972. Reagan was an anomoly. Look at our GOP Presidential Candidates since 1952. Eisenhower-moderate, Nixon-Progressive, Goldwater-conservative, Nixon-Progressive, Ford-moderate, Reagan-Conservative, Bush I-moderate, Dole-moderate, Bush II-moderate, McCain-moderate. Yes moderates have won but only because conservatives continued to support a Party that really doesn’t support them.
NY-23 is a classic example of this. 11 county committees were involve in the selection process. If I understand what happened correctly the majority of county committees voted for a conservative and were over ridden by the district chairman who’s friend was the liberal republican. This fight didn’t have to occur. It was political cronyism at its worst. So frankly I understand conservatives saying they won’t support the liberal selection just because she has an R by her name.

chemman on October 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Uh … isn’t Miller, as a Tea Party organizer, supposed to be a loose cannon, out of control, screaming epithets and acting irrationally?

Didn’t you see the part where she raised her eyebrows? Crazy woman!

jack herman on October 25, 2009 at 1:48 PM

The NRCC admits it is planning a relentless barrage against Doug Hoffman so that Scozzafava does not come in third.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/25/nrcc-officials-feeling-very-threatened-by-hoffman/

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Is the NRCC nuts! They’ve just thrown away millions in contributions from conservatives. Goodbye NRCC. Good riddance.

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

It was political cronyism at its worst.

Well what about the reports that Hoffman wasn’t familiar local issues. I think it is completely understandable not to select someone who doesn’t have a grasp of the local issues.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Did you read the local issues they asked about? Trust me, they aren’t going to be discussed on the floor of the House in D.C.. We are dealing with Health Care, Card Check, and jobs. At best they would have to be hoping for some pork thrown their way and only the Dem or a “Republican” willing to vote with the Dems is going to make that happen.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Excuse me but how is Newt of all people a RINO. I guess you can conceivably argue that McCain is a RINO but not Newt Gingrich? Newt is a conservative. I don’t see how anyone can argue otherwise. That is weird.

Newt was always more of a partisan than a conservative.

And Newt was just as bad as McCain on immigration. NumbersUSA gives his immigration voting record a “D” overall, and an F- on amnesty.

Jon0815 on October 25, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Has anyone mentioned the irony of Newt’s novel title and his current relationship with conservatives?

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM

And Newt was just as bad as McCain on immigration.

Since when did immigration make one a conservative or not? I didn’t know that had become a litmus test.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Interesting plan, alienate your contributing base. Wouldn’t it be better to just tell people how great she is?

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

No doubt they would if they could find even one redeeming quality in ol’ Dede. Maybe the RNCC should have her do another photo-op in front of Hoffman’s headquarters, while wearing her pink suit and a pair of fluffy white rabbit ears on her head.

Is the NRCC nuts! They’ve just thrown away millions in contributions from conservatives. Goodbye NRCC. Good riddance.

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

#1: Rhetorical question.
#2: Ditto that.

GrannyDee on October 25, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Next, the idea that we should refrain from criticizing party bosses for their candidate selection reminds me somewhat of my experience at WCPAC, when I was told it was “the height of rudeness” to criticize its organizers while covering it.

Sounds rather like the Obama administration.

Maybe the demonization of dissenting journalism is an activity the Republican party and the Obama administration can come together on.

RD on October 25, 2009 at 2:19 PM

There’s something deeply wrong when “supposed” Republican Party officials endorse a candidate who has 46 New York state legislators who are more conservative than she is. Hoffman has a great op-ed here in the New York Post. A candidate the founders could respect. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/take_back_the_party_

pjean on October 25, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Perhaps it’s time for a NCCC ( National Conservative Campaign Committee ) or better yet a NTPCC ( National Tea Party Campaign Committee).

donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Hoffman may not know the district, but he can learn. Scozzo doesn’t get what is important to conservative Americans. Who do you think is going to have a tougher time adapting to the demands of the constituency?

pjean on October 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/take_back_the_party_

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donh525 on October 25, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Both Lisa Miller and Newt handled this disagreement very well. I like Newt a lot, but disagree with him on this one. I also believe that anger at the national GOP organizations is misplaced. They are obligated to support local nominees. But that’s not true of prominent Republicans, or people who can send contributions, or local volunteers and voters.

I consider myself a Reagan, Big Tent Republican. I want the GOP to welcome diverse in ideas. I simply want the GOP to be dominated by people who are conservative, and even we conservatives have disagreements with one another about some issues. To me, this means listening to officials, candidates and voters with differing views, disagreeing with them as civilly as possible and trying to change their minds.

Normally, I’m opposed to the notion of kicking people out of the Party who aren’t conservative on all issues, but have at least some conservative views and can be relied upon to vote with us at least more than half of the time. However, Dede Scozzafava doesn’t seem to fit in at all. The endorsements she’s received and some of her positions show a person who is not just moderate on some issues, but far to the left on many issues. I’m not sure she can be counted on to even caucus with us in the House or remain a registered Republican if she is elected. On the other hand, if he is elected, who will Doug Hoffman caucus with? Not Democrats.

So, to me, it’s better for the Party and our country if neither Scozzafava nor the Democrat were elected, but that Doug Hoffman wins.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Clarification…..

“46 DEMOCRAT New York state legislators who are more conservative than Scozzo.”

pjean on October 25, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Ed,
If you can, can you get the Fox clip from this morning and add it as a update.

Newt was down right pissed in the Fox clip.

Clyde5445 on October 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM

I didn’t see F&F this morning, but I would love to. Tho I’m not surprised to hear of it. I visited Newt’s blog the other day where he defended S’fava. If the outpouring of derision from commenters wasn’t unanimous, then I must’ve missed the pro-Newt comment(s). As I’ve said before, this is his Waterloo.

AH_C on October 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM

I live in the 23 rd Dist. RINO McHugh took the Obama bait, an empty seat Obama hopes to fill with another damthecrap. Doug Hoffman gets my vote this year and I hope next year.

mixplix on October 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM

The national media will treat this like a Republican waterloo, despite VA and NJ going red in their governor’s races. VA by double digits, too.

SouthernGent on October 25, 2009 at 2:38 PM

If Hoffman is indeed polling behind Scozzafava, wouldn’t nominating Hoffman give the seat to a dem? Isnt a dem worse?

ernesto on October 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM

IF Hoffman is polling behind Scozzafava. Are there polls? Are any of those polls taken since the series of prominent endorsements for Hoffman?

Yes, electing a Democrat would fill this seat and make our work even more difficult in 2010. But if elected, would Scozzafava even remain a Republican? So, while I would normally bite the bullet and vote for the lesser of two evils, in this particular case, Hoffman is the better choice and I hope as many Republicans as possible get behind him and boost to a victory.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Actually, I think his “I don’t second guess the local party” line is a subtle deflection: “Don’t blame me! I didn’t pick her!” Newt wants to take it all back. He really, really does. But he’s in too far now. So I expect to hear him more and more make the argument that he was just “respecting” the local election process. Blah, blah, blah.

Rational Thought on October 25, 2009 at 2:52 PM

By the way, Newt could probably put Hoffman over the top if he came out now and said “I was wrong. My party is right. Vote Hoffman.” That would be sweet, in a Rove-you-magnificent-bastard kinda way.

Rational Thought on October 25, 2009 at 2:54 PM

I consider myself a Reagan, Big Tent Republican. I want the GOP to welcome diverse in ideas. I simply want the GOP to be dominated by people who are conservative, and even we conservatives have disagreements with one another about some issues.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 2:29 PM

IOW even a big tent still has to be tied to the ground, and the entrances monitored, to be sure the camel doesnt get its nose inside.

And that may be happening here. As far as this candidacy is concerned, if the saddle fits…

(Note to Ed: I am not comparing humans to animals here, nor do I wish to. The analogy of “camel’s nose in the tent” refers strictly to the candidacy.)

RD on October 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM

ernesto on October 25, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Aren’t voters entitled to their preferred representation? Snowe voters could easily vote for a more conservative candidate…but they dont. Why?

Of course voters have the right to vote for whom they want. But Political Party’s also have the right to set rules for who is and is not qualified to be a member.

Conservapedia: Snowe began her career in national politics in 1978 when she was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Since then she has never lost an election. In 2006, she was named one of “America’s Top Ten Senators” by Time Magazine. She has high approval ratings in here home state of Maine and is the wife of former Governor John R. McKernan, Jr. National Journal ranked Olympia Snowe’s voting record 50.8% conservative, 49.2% liberal

This seems like a very poor voting record for a Republican, doesn’t it?

Could the same forces be at play here (namely, that NY-23 isn’t as conservative a district as yours)?

Yes, this district might be a moderate one. But is Dede Scozzafava a moderate? I don’t think so. She seems more liberal than many Blue Dog Democrats.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Marcus on October 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Thanks for the reference. It’s very helpful. Here’s the link to “How Did the GOP End Up With Scozzafava?” on New Majority.

And some quotes from the article:

How did the Republicans in upstate New York choose a candidate who, according to one rating system, is more liberal than 43% of New York State Assembly Democrats?

The answer lies in Scozzafava’s close friendship with fellow Assemblywoman and Clinton County Chairperson Janet Duprey. “Dede and Janet Duprey are soul mates when it comes to voting,” said Mike Long, chairman of the New York Conservative Party, in an interview with NewMajority. Going against the wishes of her county’s delegation, Duprey abruptly switched her vote to put her pal Dede over the top.

Indeed, Scozzafava’s candidacy is becoming a lost cause – internal polling from both the Republicans and the Democrats show her in third place. “As it stands, Scozzafava’s campaign is in a lot of trouble,” said Steven Greenberg, a Siena Institute pollster, to NewMajority. A picture of a poorly executed Scozzafava campaign event sums it up – her votes are flowing swiftly to the Conservative Party.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:17 PM

The national media will treat this like a Republican waterloo, despite VA and NJ going red in their governor’s races. VA by double digits, too.

SouthernGent on October 25, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Good. If the democrat wins, and it looks like he will, let the MSM and the dems imagine that this is a sure sign that America just loves her some Obama and his far left agenda. That’ll make them nice and complacent about 2010, where most races won’t have the drama (and piss poor GOP candidate) that this one does. I’ll enjoy watching the lefty news readers with tears rimming their eyes going “What happened? That New York race last year meant that everyone hates the GOP, didn’t it? What happened?”

Of course the MSM will play this New York race up as a major win for Obama, but they’ll be wrong. So, so wrong.

Rational Thought on October 25, 2009 at 3:22 PM

It’s both funny and sad how easily all of this could have been avoided, and points to how completely out of touch Gingrich has become. This isn’t just about backing the wrong particular candidate, it’s about missing the massive frustration in the grassroots going on for years and cresting this summer. How could Gingrich, a putative leader and self-described revolutionary, miss this?

rrpjr on October 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM

RD on October 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM

IOW even a big tent still has to be tied to the ground, and the entrances monitored, to be sure the camel doesnt get its nose inside.

And that may be happening here. As far as this candidacy is concerned, if the saddle fits…

I agree. The tent has a perimeter. It has entrances and exits. You have to have a ticket to get inside and there are certain minimal rules you have to follow, or you are first warned, then told to stop, then taken outside by security and you’re on your own.

(Note to Ed: I am not comparing humans to animals here, nor do I wish to. The analogy of “camel’s nose in the tent” refers strictly to the candidacy.)

What about elephant references? They better be OK, or I won’t like that.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:28 PM

And Newt was just as bad as McCain on immigration.
Since when did immigration make one a conservative or not? I didn’t know that had become a litmus test.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM

It was during the time when you were throwing a coin up in the air to determine whether you were going to be a conservative or a liberal.

HornetSting on October 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM

beltway elitist.

moonbatkiller on October 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I don’t see that in Newt. If he were that way, why would he talk the way he did with Lisa Miller?

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:38 PM

I see that “He doesn’t live in the District” is being trotted out. If he was ineligible then why did the Republican Folks interview him as a candidate in the first place? Question Two Is anyone else having problems with this site running slow as molasses?

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM

1) Doug Hoffman is from upstate New York. It’s not like he’s unfamiliar with issues in the District. If he doesn’t already have one, I expect he’ll have an office in the District soon with all the donations pouring in. And then, it’s the old “meet and greet.”

2) No. There’s never anything wrong with Hot Air. How could you even think that?

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM

The smart thing to do would be to promise her some useless position in the state GOP with a fancy title if she withdraws tomorrow and endorses Hoffman. I’d rather have a win than humiliate a RINO.

Speedwagon82 on October 25, 2009 at 12:28 PM

I like this idea. How about NYGOP Abortion Czar?

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM

My computer is running soooooo sloooow here.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM

I agree with Gingrich about not forming a third party, and splitting the votes to give the victory to the Dems. I like Gingrich, and am seriously considering him my favorite for 2012, but I don’t like that he endorses a liberal. It would have been better if he just withheld his endorsement. I don’t blame Gingrich as much as I blame the local republican party who picked her.

p40tiger on October 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Gingrich is becoming more and more a disappointment like others in the GOP leadership, if you can call this endorsement leadership. He standing on party affiliation and not with conservative principles.

I guess Gingrich has abandoned common sense and is now following the leader… Nancy Pelosi.

Kini on October 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM

What about elephant references? They better be OK, or I won’t like that.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 3:28 PM

For a cranky old guy, you sure are one fine looking elephant. :)

platypus on October 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM

First, the NRCC and the RNC have the duty to elect endorsed Republican candidates, so one cannot blame them for following the lead of local party officials — but that’s not Newt’s role unless he chooses it for himself. He has held himself up as a leader of conservatives more than the Republican Party.

Exactly.

beachgirlusa on October 25, 2009 at 4:05 PM

For a cranky old guy, you sure are one fine looking elephant. :)

platypus

I’m waiting for Loxodonta to come on over to the right side.

beachgirlusa on October 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Please think about the 2000 election and consider if you want to hold it up as an example. Also, stop worrying about all these past Republicans and whether they were conservatives and what they would be considered to now. TODAY is the problem and we need fiscal conservatives. Real ones. Making comparisons is useless when you have all the stuff we are having thrown at us within ten months.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Dear Terry Ann: I think Cindy has given some very good advice here. We do desperately need fiscal conservatives now. I don’t believe Scozzafava has a track record that can be relied upon for that, if anything conservative. Doug Hoffman does. Even though he’s a Conservative Party member, he’s a better fit in the Republican Party than Scozzafava.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Since most of us can’t vote in NY23 the most we can do is b!tch and donate. Both of those things will be heard by the GOP.

LOL. That’s going to be my new motto as a Tea Party activist:

BITCH AND DONATE.

Love it. :D

Animator Girl on October 25, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Did Hot Air just eat my comment? Let me try again:

Since most of us can’t vote in NY23 the most we can do is b!tch and donate. Both of those things will be heard by the GOP.

LOL. That’s going to be my new motto as a Tea Party activist:

B!TCH AND DONATE.

Love it. :D

Animator Girl on October 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM

My computer is running soooooo sloooow here.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I always say that when my brain is working slow. Sometimes, I wonder if my computer will ever run up to speed again. But at least I can be thankful that I can drool and dodder better than most of the young guns around here.

And yesterday, I had another one of those incidents where I needed my reading glasses glasses. You know the glasses you wear to find the reading glasses you put somewhere, but can’t find? Yes, those glasses. And drats! Wouldn’t you know it? I couldn’t find them! So, now I need reading glasses glasses glasses!

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM

By the way Dede is against Cap and Trade.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Right, and she signed the no taxes pledge and committed to vote for the Republican leader…. Last week?

No Thanks!

RJL on October 25, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Newt will never be President because he can’t go back and un-leave his cancer stricken wife. It would be like hunting in a zoo for Dems and the media.

” Newt dumped cancer-stricken 1st wife. When his pastor criticized him for not supporting his two kids, he left the church. Newt dumped 2nd wife after cheating on her with the Congressional aide who is now his 3rd wife.”

Oh, yeah, that would be fun.

Marcus on October 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM

libturd liar (I have donated to Hoffman)

bill30097 on October 25, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Uh, maybe because conservatives are conservatives and not libertarian. I would never vote Libertarian.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

What does that make Buckley (not the son)?

You do realize there is a difference between l and L, right?

MeatHeadinCA on October 25, 2009 at 4:32 PM

For a cranky old guy, you sure are one fine looking elephant. :)

platypus on October 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Thanks. You’re not so bad looking yourself, for anyone foolish enough to like Beaver-Ducks. And, for some mysterious reason, I do.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM

My glasses are for distance so I always need my glasses to find my glasses.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Have any of you considered the fact that McHugh took a job with the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION? He must not have been *that* conservative. Why are you demanding the district choose a “conservative” when it’s evident the district doesn’t want a conservative? You folks are a bunch of hypocrites. YOU are what is wrong with the modern GOP party, not Newt Gingrich. Have any of you looked into who Doug Hoffman really is? Do you know what he does for a living, or who he works with? How about where he lives? I’m astounded at how naive most of you folks are. You’re better at playing sheep than Obamanaughts!

NoStoppingUs on October 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I’m waiting for Loxodonta to come on over to the right side.

beachgirlusa on October 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Normally, I pay as I go, but if push comes to shove, I can charge it.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 4:48 PM

A strong Leftist government can only be countered by a strong Conservative opposition.

Pretty simple.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 25, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Do you know what he does for a living, or who he works with? How about where he lives? I’m astounded at how naive most of you folks are. You’re better at playing sheep than Obamanaughts!

NoStoppingUs on October 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM

From Wikipedia: Doug Hoffman is a Lake Placid, New York businessman and accountant, an accredited Personal Financial Specialist, married since 1973 has 3 children and 4 grandchildren.

There hasn’t been a Hoffman dump at Wikipedia yet. I don’t read the Kos Kids. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I believe if there was really any bad dirt on him it would have been posted already at Wiki or Kos. There’s always rumor and innuendo, though.

I thought a lot about this. Had doubts, looked into Scozzafava’s background and Hoffman’s. I don’t like this situation at all. But, I had to make a choice about who was best for our party and country, and I’ve made my choice.

I’m not a sheep. I’m an independently thinking, conservative elephant. I’m not only capable of learning, I can also change my opinions. So, if anyone has evidence that there really is something wrong with Mr. Hoffman, please let me know. I dare you. But if you can’t do that, then stop the innuendo.

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 5:07 PM

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Are you drunk?

Gingrich couldn’t get elected President of the local Rotary club. As for his response, it was idiotic. He keeps citing the endorsement of “the NRA”. The NRA national organization has nothing to do with politics, but exists solely as a non-partisan, non-ideological organization other than one issue — the 2nd Amendment. They make great efforts to demonstrate their non-partisan endorsement record, so as to protect their tax status.

The local organization? Who gives a crap? If the local organization is all that matters, then why is he commenting on the race at all?

Jaibones on October 25, 2009 at 5:07 PM

My glasses are for distance…

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Obviously, my reading glasses are for distance as well, as they keeping trying to put as much distance as possible between them and me. Naughty glasses. I’d punish them more severely, except I’m afraid they’d run away from home. And then what would I do?

Loxodonta on October 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM

NoStoppingUs on October 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM

No, no one has bothered to look up or read anything about him or his opponents. New here?

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Have any of you considered the fact that McHugh took a job with the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION? He must not have been *that* conservative. Why are you demanding the district choose a “conservative” when it’s evident the district doesn’t want a conservative? You folks are a bunch of hypocrites. YOU are what is wrong with the modern GOP party, not Newt Gingrich. Have any of you looked into who Doug Hoffman really is? Do you know what he does for a living, or who he works with? How about where he lives? I’m astounded at how naive most of you folks are. You’re better at playing sheep than Obamanaughts!

In conclusion, Newtie, Grahmnesty, McVain, Scuzzi, Frum and their ilk are what’s wrong with the GOP; not someone that claims to be a Reagan Conservative.

NoStoppingUs on October 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Yeah, McHugh “defected”. Why? I don’t know. Maybe he’s more concerned about our boys and girls forced to serve our Communist-in-Chief” and doing what he can to blunt damages, i.e. DA-DT. Or maybe, he’s an Obambi sycophant. Either way, the door’s open to put another who would stand up to Obamanation. No hypocrisy to try and put someone better than Scuzzi.

Who is Hoffman? Someone who claims to be conservative. Being that he’s a small business owner and no political record, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt any day over a true believer in pro-abortion, unions, card check and where family values include shoveling campaign funds to family members. If Hoffman turns out to be a squish, so be it, NY 23 can deal with him the next time around.

AH_C on October 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Ooops, got my response inside the blockquote

AH_C on October 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Putting her in office is the same as re-electing Arlen Specter to any position.

Let’s make it simple. Scozzafava=”Arlene Specter”

The Monster on October 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM

How did the Republicans in upstate New York choose a candidate who, according to one rating system, is more liberal than 43% of New York State Assembly Democrats?

The answer lies in Scozzafava’s close friendship with fellow Assemblywoman and Clinton County Chairperson Janet Duprey. “Dede and Janet Duprey are soul mates when it comes to voting,” said Mike Long, chairman of the New York Conservative Party, in an interview with NewMajority. Going against the wishes of her county’s delegation, Duprey abruptly switched her vote to put her pal Dede over the top.

Indeed, Scozzafava’s candidacy is becoming a lost cause – internal polling from both the Republicans and the Democrats show her in third place.

So now we know who caused this mess. Question is, what are folks going to do about it?

With all this new money floating around, maybe it’s time for someone to chip in and get Janet Duprey a nice fruit basket or something.

RD on October 25, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Every election cycle the Libertarian Party runs hundreds of candidates nationwide. You don’t see Conservatives jumping up to endorse them.

ericdondero on October 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Uh, maybe because conservatives are conservatives and not libertarian. I would never vote Libertarian.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

And The Constitution Party does as welland Conservatives are not jumping – at all.

AprilOrit on October 25, 2009 at 6:20 PM

I just sent this email to the NRCC

I have, from time to time, contributed to the Republican party and to Republican candidates. I was elected to county office as a Republican a few years ago. If you choose to go all out in supporting Scozzavava in NY 23, that’s a reasonable choice (although one I disagree with). If you do so by attacking Hoffman, I will never support the party financially again. I may contribute to an individual Republican candidate, but there will be no support, financial or of any other sort, to the party. There are many others who feel the same way.

If you must attack someone, at least let it be Owens, the Democrat in the race. Fratricide is a stupid move in politics. I don’t want to support the stupid party.

Please let them know how you feel.

Buford Gooch on October 25, 2009 at 6:20 PM

I wish Ace would post something on this topic.

andycanuck on October 25, 2009 at 7:12 PM

NEWT = COMPLETE RINO

PappyD61 on October 25, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Uh, maybe because conservatives are conservatives and not libertarian. I would never vote Libertarian.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Reagan was a Goldwater libertarian.

John the Libertarian on October 25, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Didn’t you see the part where she raised her eyebrows? Crazy woman!jack herman on October 25, 2009 at 1:48 PM

She’s a witch!

yubley on October 25, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Reagan was a Goldwater libertarian.

John the Libertarian on October 25, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Reagan wasn’t a dove. The Libertarian Party today is filled with a bunch of isolationists. No thanks. I want NO part in that while Islamic terrorists are trying to kill us. Libertarians also have no issue with abortion. I’ll pass on voting libertarian.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Newt, Scozzafava, endorsed by the NRA? The SAME NRA that endorsed Mitt Romney AFTER he signed 2 gun bans in MA. The SAME NRA that endorsed Michael Steele who supported gun bans in MD? Scozzafava also voted for A.7733 and its purpose is to “Authorizes courts to revoke firearms license and seize the weapons of certain individuals.”
Scozzafava supports card check, is supported by ACORN and the Working Families Party, Voted against regulating the use of “no-knock” warrants and monitoring the use of all search warrants.
Here is Michelle Malkin’s take on Scozzafava;
http://vdare.com/malkin/091015_scozzafava.htm

nelsonknows on October 25, 2009 at 7:43 PM

NEWT is a mistake for the Conservative movement, go sit on a couch with NAMBLA NAZI Piglosi, Sphincter of the House.

nelsonknows on October 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Reagan was a Goldwater libertarian.

John the Libertarian on October 25, 2009 at 7:16 PM

The difference between a “LIBERTARIAN” and the Libertarian Party are HUGE. The Libertarian party has been overrun with drug addicted, 911 Conspiracy freak, Ron Paul supporters who couldn’t READ the Constitution if I held a gun to their heads.

nelsonknows on October 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Watch this and tell me Newt is bad for conservatism.

terryannonline on October 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM

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