Who lost France?

posted at 12:00 pm on October 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama campaigned on restoring America’s standing with its allies, accusing the outgoing Bush administration of insulting and alienating our closest friends with his alleged unilateralism.  How has Obama done as President?  He has repeatedly insulted the British, insisting that there is no “special relationship” and demonstrating it by denying Gordon Brown the usual joint press conference on his visit to the US.  Reuters reports that another close ally has taken the measure of Obama and started looking elsewhere for cooperation:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy, initially dubbed Sarko the American for his pro-U.S. stance, is finding it much tougher to deal with Washington than he had anticipated and is recalibrating his policies accordingly.

Stung by perceived snubs from U.S. President Barack Obama and encouraged by the growing importance of the G20, Sarkozy is increasingly reaching out to non-aligned states in an effort to extend France’s international influence.

He has forged especially close ties with Brazil, is seeking alliances in central Asia and is intensifying his activities in the Middle East, using multi-billion dollar military and civilian nuclear trade deals as his calling card.

These initiatives are being played out against a discordant tone in Franco-American relations. This lack of harmony does not constitute a crisis, but is nonetheless raising eyebrows.

The irony here is that the entire “unilateralist” meme started with France in the first place.  Then-President George Bush decided to pursue his own coalition of nations to dislodge Saddam Hussein from Iraq when then-French President Jacques Chirac double-crossed the US and the UK at the United Nations.  Despite having dozens of nations in the coalition, the lack of an eighteenth resolution from the UN and the public opposition of Chirac’s France allowed the American Left to paint Bush as a go-it-alone cowboy on the international stage.

When Nicolas Sarkozy replaced Chirac, he and Bush created closer ties between the two nations than had been seen in decades.  The two partnered on the war on terror, with France taking the unusual position last year of scolding its European partners for not contributing more combat troops to the effort in Afghanistan.  Sarkozy and Bush also formed a tight alliance against Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Now who’s the go-it-alone cowboy?  Obama has damaged relations with the UK, France, the Czech Republic, and Poland, which even Joe Biden was forced to admit yesterday.  Instead, Obama has focused his friendlier attention on Russia and Iran.  What has Obama and the US received in return?  Laughter over Hillary Clinton’s amateurish “reset button” and zero cooperation on Iranian nuclear weapons.  And this is “smart power”?


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Zero is dismantling and destroying America, piece by piece.

OmahaConservative on October 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM

But the people of the world now love us.

That and $4 will get you a cup of Starbucks ridiculous coffee.

People have love affairs, leaders and nations have interests.

SteveMG on October 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM

But the world love him. These are just lies promoted by the evil right wing machine and its flunkies at Faux News. Besides we do not need other countires help anyway. /Bleedsblue

cobrakai99 on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Don’t forget that he threw Thailand under the bus when he refused to meet the Dhali Lama.

jhffmn on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

nonimporte de qua…zoot!

moonbatkiller on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

BO needs six-pack of grow-up

Wade on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Gee, who do I side with?

One is married to one of the most beautiful women on earth, the other married to someone who resembles a Star Wars character…

Ogabe isn’t fit to shake Sarkozy’s hand.

PimFortuynsGhost on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

That’s a peace prize.

txag92 on October 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Dalai Lama I mean.

jhffmn on October 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Now who’s the go-it-alone cowboy?

The Precedent is neither go-it-alone nor a cowboy. He has sucked up to every enemy of the US and has sh!t all over every ally (or even pseudo allies, like the French). That’s all. The PRecedent wants to take over the role of the old Soviet Union on the world stage, supporting and backing every marxist regime and dictatorship he can find. The Precedent is a traitor who needs to be fully held to account.

What has Obama and the US received in return?

For the millionth time, The Precedent is getting exactly what he wants – the denigration and demeaning of the US, injuring our nation abroad as he tries to rip it to shreds from within. The Precedent is out to do nothing but exact revenge on America and that is what he is doing. I wonder how long he will have to do exactly what he’s been doing until you realize what is so obvious.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM

A couple of nights with a girl do not necessarily a marriage make. I am not sure we ever had France.

But then again, I am not sure we have lost France. France is France. My advice, don’t expect a lot from France and you will not be disappointed.

Mr. Joe on October 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Our friends are our enemies and our enemies are still our enemies. Smart Power, indeed.

kingsjester on October 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM

It’s a sad day when I admire the french president more than ours.

jukin on October 24, 2009 at 12:07 PM

And this is “smart power”?

I blame Fox.

AUINSC on October 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

If the repugnicans had given a gag gift that said in Russian “Overload” instead of reset , resignations would be called for and it would be late night fodder for years .

borntoraisehogs on October 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Niave, inexperienced dumbazz power. That’s what it is. Yup.

Griz on October 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

As most of us said during the Bush years, we shouldn’t base our policies on the approval of other nations. Yes, we should give a “decent respect” for their opinions but that shouldn’t guide our policies.

So, whether the French government supports us or not is separate to the question of whether our policies vis-a-vis France and our common interests make sense. If they’re smart and effective policies, I don’t care what Paris thinks. If they’re dumb, I still don’t care what Paris thinks.

The fact that the Obama Administration is ignoring Paris despite the common interests we share is the problem.

SteveMG on October 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Oh, and don’t forget Israel, Ed. He has managed to really isolate and piss off Bibi. Smart power indeed.

JAM on October 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

and it would be late night fodder for years .

borntoraisehogs on October 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

It’s going to be in future history books as one of the dumbest and most humiliating acts of diplomacy in world history. People will be laughing at the stupidity of the reset button (and the stupidity of this generation of Americans that elected this traitorous moron) for hundreds of years into the future, if not thousands.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Important story Ed, but where’s the one on Obamao declaring a national emergency which waives certain ‘federal requirements’?

chicagojedi on October 24, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Don’t forget that he threw Thailand under the bus when he refused to meet the Dhali Lama.

jhffmn on October 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Tibet

petunia on October 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM

It’s going to be in future history books as one of the dumbest and most humiliating acts of diplomacy in world history. People will be laughing at the stupidity of the reset button (and the stupidity of this generation of Americans that elected this traitorous moron) for hundreds of years into the future, if not thousands.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

WE will but most of the country has never heard a bad thing about Obama.

petunia on October 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

The French have always viewed their revolution’s “worldview” of “libertie, egalitie, fraternitie” as an alternative to the American Revolution’s worldview of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, so there will always be the underlying competition. That said, there are practical considerations beyond competing worldviews and it seems that Sarkozy is the more grounded in reality of the two leaders. Obama lives in a haze of pseudo-intellectual academic jargon and discredited economic and diplomatic theories. Of course, it’s not as if the clues weren’t there beforehand.

venividivici on October 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Tibet

petunia on October 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Ouch, ok I knew that. I need more coffee. Dunno why I thought Thailand.

jhffmn on October 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM

All of this talk about unilateralist presidents and I’m reminded of will smith who said, “You know the difference ‘tween you ‘n me?….. I make this look goooood!”

Shows.

ted c on October 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Obama is a national emergency. Act accordingly!

BetseyRoss on October 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM

It is because Michelle Obama doesn’t like that Sarkozy’s wife is thinner, prettier and more fashionable than her. She doesn’t mind the dumpy first ladies though. Ergo, we can be nice to our enemies.

ctmom on October 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM

It’s like the White House folks sit around and say, What would be good for America?. When they determine what it is, they do just the opposite.

Christian Conservative on October 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM

There were intimations of this in his campaign. European leaders were not happy with his suggestion of unilateral overtures to Iran and Russia, and other “go-it-alone” hints.

Anyway, in keeping with my “irony law” on Obama (which has yet to be proved wrong), I knew if Bush were attacked as the “cowboy”, it was only a matter of time before the actual cowboy — in this case, tenderfoot — would knock over the kettles and trigger a stampede.

rrpjr on October 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Now who’s the go-it-alone cowboy?

There’s NOTHING cowboy about Obama, Ed. He’s not going it alone either, he’s forging new alliances with our enemies because he’s convinced 1) they hate America because of Bush, 2) the old relationships forged from the beginning of America are a part of the problem in the founding of America. This is the key to his promise to fundamentally change and remake America.

Remember last year when Obama made that trip to France and held the joint presser with Sarkozy as a means of creating his foreign policy ‘credentials’? Some said that Sarkozy looked like he was ready to be Obama’s new poodle, I said that Sarkozy perceived Obama as the student and himself as the master. And that if Obama was elected we would see France that the opportunity to move to the front of the line in international affairs.. and that is exactly what he is doing. America will no longer be the Leader of the Free World if Sarkozy has his way. The power shift will be to the EU with France as the strong horse.

Texas Gal on October 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM

He is all about the redistribution of wealth. Both here at home and abroad.

Rich CEO’s and Rich Countries share Obama’s loathing.

The man has a major chip on his shoulder and has true hate in his heart.

tatersalad on October 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM

In fairness we never owned France.

But I am happy that my hero Sarkozy hates Obama too. It just shows that I was right in liking him in the first place.

Still… it is the left who obsesses over who likes us and who doesn’t. They are the ones who did stupid stuff in high school to be part of the in crowd. Me not so much. I think most of the right is like that… explain to me why we need to be falsely popular again?

petunia on October 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM

How I wish there was a man of character in the White House instead of a man of rhetoric

would knock over the kettles and trigger a stampede.

rrpjr on October 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Snort. I miss having men in the White House instead of amateur punks. There’s a reason you vote for someone with EXPERIENCE. We better be looking for one smart man to run in 2012, because if Obama thinks he’s inherited messes, just wait till you see what the next guy gets left with. Whoa howdy.

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

oops, forgot preview button :/

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

What has improved since O took over? Has anything?

Mojave Mark on October 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Wonderfully, Zero strikes again.

thmsmgnm on October 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Don’t forget Obama siding with Chavez and Castro against the Honduran constitution. A real watershed moment in American democracy.

Star20 on October 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM

BetseyRoss on October 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Well Obama now has executive control over medical-related industrial production. Hope he can fix the problems the tonsil vultures created.

I’m sure Congress will hold him accountable for any over-extension of executive authority.

But go buy stock in Reynolds if you are so concerned about our dear leader.

darclon on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Who lost France?

Better question: Who’s losing America?

Rovin on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Obama should be attacked for every puerile (or is it evil) act of malfeasance but this is clearly a diversion. This is clearly de rien.

The French are the world’s worst ally. If you go into battle with them behind you, you have to be careful not to get knifed in the back. If you go into battle with them in front of you, they get in your way when they retreat. This, of course, assumes they show up for the battle.

Obama proved his gross incompetence and unfitness for the job of CIC by advocating that Iraq be conceded to Al Qaeda and Iran. No further evidence is necessary.

Basilsbest on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

It’s going to be in future history books as one of the dumbest and most humiliating acts of diplomacy in world history. People will be laughing at the stupidity of the reset button (and the stupidity of this generation of Americans that elected this traitorous moron) for hundreds of years into the future, if not thousands.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

PoP… I would call this a heavy case of naivety on Obama’s part. He figured that he was a pop star, hollywood icon, media darling and that the international community would embrace him, love him, adore him, worship him. He didn’t factor in the international community turning on him. You should have some sense of feeling sorry for him. Poor little boy. Adored on the playground of little people… Then beaten to a pulp by the bullies that he tried to make nice with.

Turbo Naivety at the expense of our Nation.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

What has improved since O took over? Has anything?

Mojave Mark on October 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

I think my athlete’s foot has improved. Can’t think of much else. I’ll let you know.

CK MacLeod on October 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM

The French are the world’s worst ally. If you go into battle with them behind you, you have to be careful not to get knifed in the back. If you go into battle with them in front of you, they get in your way when they retreat. This, of course, assumes they show up for the battle.

Obama proved his gross incompetence and unfitness for the job of CIC by advocating that Iraq be conceded to Al Qaeda and Iran. No further evidence is necessary.

Basilsbest on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Let’s not be short sighted here…the French were kind of, sort of helpful in helping us win the Rev. War against the Brits…

tatersalad on October 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM

When Mr. Obama was talking about Bush’s “losing our allies with cowboy diplomacy” he wasn’t talking about Western “allies” such as France, Germany, Israel, Columbia, Honduras, Czech Republic or Poland, he was talking about his allies, Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Iran whom Pres Bush had ‘alienated’ with his ‘cowboy diplomacy’. One has to understand the Orwellian doublespeak of our socialist President to cut through his crap talk. You won’t be surprised then with what he does, although it will still scare the bejesus out of you if you love your country.

eaglewingz08 on October 24, 2009 at 12:45 PM

By the term “your country” I mean the USA (this definition is directed to libs, progressives, and dems in general) conservatives and republicans don’t need this reminder.

eaglewingz08 on October 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM

But, but, but, we are still friends with Zelaya right?

Rambotito on October 24, 2009 at 12:47 PM

At least we’ve still got Norway.

Really Right on October 24, 2009 at 12:52 PM

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Comrade Obama (PBUH) is not very interested in good relations with our traditional international “friends”. He sees them as obstacles to progress in his “one world view” of what a real socialist world should look like.
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He feels a lot closer to the liberal / socialist / marxist / communist countries and their way of governing. This is what he learned from his mentors, schools, and pastor. His real agenda is to remake the U.S.A. into the new United Socialist States of Amerikka–and he is right on track with his plans.
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It’s no coincidence that The Messiah’s government is filled with openly avowed socialists / marxists / communists–ditto for a lot of our congress. A lot of people think stealing from the producers and wealthy will help them. But they should remember the line, “Don’t ask for whom the bell tolls–it tolls for thee!”
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This will be made apparent to the dunces among us when they fill out the next few years tax returns, fill up with $10 a gallon gas, and can’t find work. The lack of the Emperor’s new cloths will be pretty apparent to everyone soon.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on October 24, 2009 at 12:53 PM

It is because Michelle Obama doesn’t like that Sarkozy’s wife is thinner, prettier and more fashionable than her. She doesn’t mind the dumpy first ladies though. Ergo, we can be nice to our enemies.

ctmom on October 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM

How can you say such a thing? Look here. Never mind.

Wade on October 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM

rocketman on October 24, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Careful, please. LGF is trolling and posting comments on their has-been-washed-up-15 minutes of fame-pseudoblog.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM

As it goes now, at or near the end of Obamas reign, no nation will have any respect for our country. Our role as the laughing stock of the world will be confirmed and solidified.

docdave on October 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Again?

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Again?

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Yes, daily. His sitemeter is plummeting, commenters are dwindling, the “donate” meter is in the sewer with his career, and to hit back? He’s using HA and MM’s blogs. Pathetic.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:10 PM

If our allies abandon us, and our nation is attacked I’m sure everything will be okay. I mean, ObamaCare will cover biological attacks, radiation sickness, & shrapnel from car bombings won’t it?……won’t it?

portlandon on October 24, 2009 at 1:11 PM

As a Texan, I respectfully request – No, DEMAND – that Barack Obama NEVER, EVER, under ANY circumstances, be called a cowboy! Not even a rhinestone cowboy! However, you may call him a “fraud” any time you’d like.

GoldenEagle4444 on October 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

As it goes now, at or near the end of Obamas reign, no nation will have any respect for our country. Our role as the laughing stock of the world will be confirmed and solidified.

docdave on October 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM

AHA! But you miss the point. This isn’t Obama’s country. This is America. Keep your eye on the ball. Americans will always succeed. We’ve been challenged before. Stay in the game. We’ll always succeed.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Careful, please. LGF is trolling and posting comments on their has-been-washed-up-15 minutes of fame-pseudoblog.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Someone needs to do an intervention with those people. That blog has really become a bottom-feeder.

Still, I don’t see why people should hold back their opinions here to avoid getting slammed over there. I’m sure there are cases where the liberal trolls cut and paste comments on lefty blogs in the same sort of smear attempts, especially since they hate Malkin so much.

Can’t go through life trying to placate others (which is an ironic thing to say on a thread about Obama’s foreign policy).

venividivici on October 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM

All according to plan

notagool on October 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Obama is doing this deliberately so that when he drives that last nail into America’s coffin, there will be no one willing to come to our aid.

Dave R. on October 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM

A country should have respect, not ‘popularity.’

LASue on October 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I notice you didn’t mention how Obama was nasty to Israel, in effect alienating many Israelis. How come?

Avi Green on October 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Turbo Naivety at the expense of our Nation.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

The reset button was monumental stupidity, along with a clear intent to make the US look foolish, anyway. It was another attempted a slap at America (for all our past “evil” with the poor USSR and for being nice to Eastern Europe, which The Precedent looks at as “Soviet property”, still) that went horribly wrong due to the stupidity and incompetence of this administration.

But make no mistake about it, it is not naivete that drives the foreign policy of the Traitor-in-Chief. It is all intentional and designed to harm our national interests and make Americans look as foolish and stupid and evil as possible. That is The Precedent’s aim. And he loves to make the White House look as undiginified as possible, at every opportunity. Usually he does this naturally, but he still tries to throw some extra humiliating moments in, when he can – such as with that Copenhagen Olympic fiasco. The Precedetn was happy that the White House had egg on its face over that. He hates us and all of our institutions.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

So, if there are objectionable comments posted on HA, and yea, there have been…why is it that LGF has taken it upon itself to post them on his site? I know why, because lately he’s taken to ridiculing everyone who HE THINKS has anything remotely to do with the right, tea partiers, talk show hosts, bloggers, creationists, racists, and now commenters. It’s like, see, see this comment? I told you the GOP is a cesspool.” Maybe he’s trying to help Obama marginalize those who don’t agree with his policies.

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Liberals have always suffered from the delusion that conflict is generated by misunderstandings. Therefore they assume that with enough effort (appeasement) they can make an enemy into a friend.

I remember growing up, when the bullies started picking on me and the other small kids in the class, the liberal parents told their kids to “make friends with the bully- he must be lonely- otherwise he wouldn’t behave that way”. My father told me to punch the bully as hard as I could in the nose or eye, and then resign myself to getting beat up. “He’ll beat you up if you fight back, but after that he won’t bother you anymore- just try to protect your head and your groin”.

Guess who’s advice proved me accurate? Unfortunately the teachers were all liberals, so I got marked as a trouble maker because I dared to defend myself.

Liberals: Can’t tell the difference between friends and enemies, and can’t tell the difference between good and evil.

Sackett on October 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

GoldenEagle4444 on October 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Yea, he earned the fraud title. You know, as an American I wasn’t pleased about him being elected, but I thought oh well, he’s the president and we have to support him. But he’s made it damn near impossible to do that, he’s on the wrong side of almost every single issue. WE didn’t make him a fraud, HE DID. WE didn’t embarass the country, HE did. We didn’t want to spend trillions of dollars and owe China for the next century, but he went ahead and borrowed anyway.

scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM

An acquaintance of mine has Muslim neighbors whom they had over for dinner one night. The Muslim wife made a derogatory comment about the Nobel Peace Prize. My friend, not knowing their political leanings, assumed they were in safe territory and so she began making negative comments about The Won. It degenerated into an ugly verbal fight. The Muslim neighbors commented how much the Muslims don’t hate America anymore. I guess not! We’re making enemies our of our allies, and allies out of our enemies. What’s not to like?!?

PrincipledPilgrim on October 24, 2009 at 1:26 PM

I think the rest of the world is starting to get a little scared that they really are going through with the New World Order/One World Government crap. Countries are beginning to see the might of the U.S. government when it makes its own Constitution into toiler paper. I think they all will reconsider giving up their soverignty to a government like the one that is emerging. I hope Americans all think about it too. Freedom is a beautiful thing to waste….

adamsmith on October 24, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Obama has damaged relations with the UK, France, the Czech Republic, and Poland, which even Joe Biden was forced to admit yesterday. Instead, Obama has focused his friendlier attention on Russia and Iran.

Russia meets the socialist requirement Obama wants.
Iran meets the muslim requirement

Altogether, Obama is looking for love in all the wrong places.

Kini on October 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM

So the smartest people in the room are idjits. Is there anything the One claimed that has come to pass that is a good thing for US(A)? He is am embarrassment, particularly in light if his own hype.

Buckeye Babe on October 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM

LGF has taken it upon itself to post them on his site? scalleywag on October 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Yes, daily. If you dare to click you can see that you too, can be a rockstar, like Obama, on LGF.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

So the smartest people in the room are idjits. Is there anything the One claimed that has come to pass that is a good thing for US(A)? He is am embarrassment, particularly in light if his own hype.

Buckeye Babe on October 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Babe, I think what we are going to see is a distancing of the populace and Obama’s policies. I think that we’re ready as a collective people, to stand against the progressive policies that they are trying to enforce. It’s not Obama as a person. It is the progressive movement that We The People, the electorate, the Nation are resisting.

Take away the personal taunts. Stick to the prinicples of American Liberty. It is there that we will sustain our heritage.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Who needs those “old” allies. We’ve got NEW ones. Castro brothers, Ortega, Chavez. Out with the old, in with the new.

GarandFan on October 24, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I have been intrigued by how much this man has gone out of his “non0-racist” way to insult and degrade relationships with traditional Europeans.

I think Glenn Beck is right. Everything points to him being a racialist of the highest order and the lighter the skin the more he feels free to insult and ignore you.

Noelie on October 24, 2009 at 1:49 PM

So, if there are objectionable comments posted on HA, and yea, there have been…why is it that LGF has taken it upon itself to post them on his site?

Because LGF is now Hot Air Watch.

aengus on October 24, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Who needs those “old” allies. We’ve got NEW ones. Castro brothers, Ortega, Chavez. Out with the old, in with the new.

GarandFan on October 24, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Nah, Obama might like those folks but the progressive dream and movement he is trying to implement will fail. That’s why he is hitting back with sticks, rocks, baseball bats, mouthpeices, and all sorts of sundry items available to him. His policies will fail.

It will be a lesson for our Nation. Elections have consequences. Now We Know.

“Now We Know… Now We Know… Now We Know.. Now We Know”.. sing that to the chants of ‘yes we can’.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

I went there and saw that they were loving some of my comments. They are a bunch of morons. I read one of their threads on this and the debate was bothing but a bunch of headless chickens running around, bleeding all over the intertubes (with a very few sensible people – I don’t know why they stay there). It was kind of sad. But funny, too, as the moronic thread ended up with half of the fools arguing how much the US tortured poor, widdle terrorists and how nasty our nation is, finally yielding:

714 Charles Sat, Oct 17, 2009 9:18:59pm

Why has this thread turned into a screaming match?

I believe I was just mentioning how much work it took to run LGF, and how little it’s been paying to do it recently… and here we have another catfight, with people on both sides emailing me and telling me I need to step in.

What does any of this have to do with the topic of the thread? I couldn’t have asked for a better illustration of the kind of stuff I have to spend way too much time dealing with.

Unless everyone involved in this latest pissing match chills out right now, I’m going to close comments on this thread.

They are nothing but a bunch of screaming babies over there. It’s ugly. And THAT was supposed to be a hotair bashing thread, where they just bashed each other and Chuckles had to threaten to close coments. LOL. Fools. Stop worrying about what they do. They are insignificant.

progressoverpeace on October 24, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Is it just me, or does Obama remind you of that friend in Highschool that as soon as he got a new girlfriend would forget about all his other buddies while she ran around with every douche bag in the school behind his back?

zachatk on October 24, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Lord, don’t get me started……

ultracon on October 24, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Because LGF is now Hot Air Watch.

aengus on October 24, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Please, Donate! Hit the Donate Key! Hit it now. Now.

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Who lost France?

I would say… Marshall Ney, when instead of a combined arms attack at Waterloo, he chrged with the vast majority of French Cavalry over a Hill, into prepared and steady British Squares.

Been downhill ever since…

Romeo13 on October 24, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Lord, save us from elected “intellectuals” who are in love with their own thoughts, emotions and opinions with no regard for history, survival or the effect of reality on their self centered dreams.

Amen

Hening on October 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Sarko and the rest of the world are slowly discovering the truth in the old adage ‘be careful what you wish for, you may get it’

Nick loved having Obama there before the election and helped make him look like a world leader. Now he has to live with what he helped create.

The whole world wanted an America that was not leading, was not in charge, was not ON WATCH

well here we go. Hang on world.

ginaswo on October 24, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Ed:

“He has repeatedly insulted the British, insisting that there is no “special relationship” and demonstrating it by denying Gordon Brown the usual joint press conference on his visit to the US.”

This is not exactly bunker busting incivility, and there’s been so much more substantive alienation since then, it just sounds like out of date, knee jerk, nitpicking. Your Euro-centric view also ignores the destabilization of relationships with allies in South America and Asia. See: Colombia, Honduras, Japan, among others, not to mention Israel, of course.

In any case, Obama has been double plus ungood for Franco-American relations. While Chirac found a perfect whipping boy in GWB in his chauvinistic push to establish a new balance of power between the U.S. and Europe (under French direction, of course), there was still a great deal of less obvious cooperation going on.

The ironies here don’t stop at cowboy diplomacy. Bush was also tarred for politicizing intelligence, for example, yet it’s Obama’s willingness to undercut our intel apparatus for political purposes — publicly disclosing sensitive, even classified material, in the process — that poses a clear and present danger. Bush’s rocky relationship with the C.I.A., and the resulting media exposés, were enough to make international agencies skittish. When the President, himself, however, is responsible for such damaging revelations (and is wavering as C-i-C to boot), existing alarm is exacerbated to deadly effect. Among U.S. allies, France is like Intel Central, and losing their trust means losing one of the most critically important sources of info exchange we’ve got. Their geographic, largely unfettered, reach in most of the world’s current hot-spots exceeds our own by several orders of magnitude.

There is one potential silver lining here, though. As the U.S. dithers, the folks who have prospered under the U.S. umbrella may finally see the wisdom of developing the means to protect themselves.

JM Hanes on October 24, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I never heard Sarkosy say: NOUS avons hérité ce désordre de l’administration précédente. (We inherited this from the previous administration)

But I think Sarkosy will soon be saying this to the American People:
Comment est “l’Espoir et le Changement” travaillant pour vous ?
(How is “Hope and Change” working for you?)

Caryson on October 24, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Now who’s the go-it-alone cowboy? Obama has damaged relations with the UK, France, the Czech Republic, and Poland, which even Joe Biden was forced to admit yesterday. Instead, Obama has focused his friendlier attention on Russia and Iran. What has Obama and the US received in return? Laughter over Hillary Clinton’s amateurish “reset button” and zero cooperation on Iranian nuclear weapons. And this is “smart power”?

LMAO……Now Hussein and his Posse of Clowns will figure a way to Blame BUSH for this.

BigMike252 on October 24, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Key West Reader on October 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM

LGF? What’s that: L’il Gratuitous Frou-Frous? An ally of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers or Powderpuff Girls?

/sarc (Rule#5, R4R)

ya2daup on October 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Obama = Sidesaddle

pain train on October 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM

One of the things liberal profs try to ram down your throat at college is that the U.S., Old Europe and Great Britain are the font of all evil- industrialism and of course the lefts favorite, colonialism ( a twofer, racism and materialism).
Zero bought into this lock, stock and barrel.
It’s like having your worst political science teacher as President at this point.

jjshaka on October 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Liberals: Can’t tell the difference between friends and enemies, and can’t tell the difference between good and evil.

Sackett on October 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Amen to that. Liberals – delusional or insane or both.

docdave on October 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Soon we will have to travel to France to get ‘Freedom Fries.’

GnuBreed on October 24, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Ed,

I don’t think you need to be insulting Cowboys all over this wonderful country by calling/saying 0bama is a cowboy. It was after the mountain men that the cowboys went west and settled that part of the country. 0bama is a pussy/wussie, definitely not a cowboy.

Mirimichi on October 24, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Who needs those “old” allies. We’ve got NEW ones. Castro brothers, Ortega, Chavez. Out with the old, in with the new.

GarandFan on October 24, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheAlamos on October 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Who lost France?

>>>>> NO. WE LOST US!

TheAlamos on October 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

With apologies to Monty Python:

SARKOZY: ‘Allo, daffy Americain Pais-i-dent O-Bambi-a, who is afraid of a duck, you know! So, we French fellows out-wit you a second time!
OBAMA: How dare you profane me with your presence!? I command you, in the name of the U.S. of A., to open your doors..
SARKOZY: How you Americains say? I one more time-a unclog my nose in your direction, sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could out-clever us French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing behavior! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second-hand electric donkey bottom biters.
OBAMA: In the name of the Lord, we demand your respect!
SARKOZY: No chance, Americain bed-wetting types. I burst my pimples at you and call your daughter an unrequested silly thing. You tiny-brained wipers of other people’s bottoms!
OBAMA: If you do not respect me, I shall call Rahm Immanuel upon you!
SARKOZY: Yes, and you do, we will fire arrows at the tops of your heads and make castanets out of your testicles already! Ha ha!
OBAMA (to his coterie of sycophants): Walk away. Just ignore them.
SARKOZY: No, remain you illegitimate faced buggerfuls! And, if you think you got nasty taunting this time, you ain’t heard nothing yet! Daffy Americain Pais-i-dent O-Bambi-a! Thpppt!
OBAMA: We shall attack at once!

VoyskaPVO on October 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM

is finding it much tougher to deal with Washington than he had anticipated and is recalibrating his policies accordingly.

Why did anybody anywhere have any confidence in anything Obama has ever said… ever?

mankai on October 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM

I’ll take a cowboy with some real grapes over a pansy-a*s metrosexual who couldn’t find his with a flashlight.

redfoxbluestate on October 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Laughter over Hillary Clinton’s amateurish “reset button” and zero cooperation on Iranian nuclear weapons. And this is “smart power”?

Bingo.

Obama has apologized to the “world community” both on our behalf and without our consent, regardless of whether we deserved it, whether they had earned it, or whether he had to betray us in order to do it. And this is the policy that passes the “global test”?

This is where John Kerry was headed in 2004. Seems we’ve finally gotten there now.

RD on October 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM

I’ll take a cowboy with some real grapes over a pansy-a*s metrosexual who couldn’t find his with a flashlight.

redfoxbluestate on October 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM

A flashlight and a microscope!

Dark-Star on October 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM

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