Video: Dick Cheney rips Obama on the war

posted at 8:48 am on October 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Via Power Line, the full video to the speech that Allahpundit quoted last night — and it’s as good as it is long.  George Bush may want to allow the spotlight to fade from Crawford, but after a short spell of silence, the former VP has returned to engagement on the war.  Cheney blasts Obama’s “dithering” on the war in Afghanistan and his abrupt betrayals of allies in eastern Europe:

Here is one key passage, which explains why Cheney has re-emerged:

Recently, President Obama’s advisors have decided that it’s easier to blame the Bush Administration than support our troops. This weekend they leveled a charge that cannot go unanswered. The President’s chief of staff claimed that the Bush Administration hadn’t asked any tough questions about Afghanistan, and he complained that the Obama Administration had to start from scratch to put together a strategy.

In the fall of 2008, fully aware of the need to meet new challenges being posed by the Taliban, we dug into every aspect of Afghanistan policy, assembling a team that repeatedly went into the country, reviewing options and recommendations, and briefing President-elect Obama’s team. They asked us not to announce our findings publicly, and we agreed, giving them the benefit of our work and the benefit of the doubt. The new strategy they embraced in March, with a focus on counterinsurgency and an increase in the numbers of troops, bears a striking resemblance to the strategy we passed to them. They made a decision – a good one, I think – and sent a commander into the field to implement it.

Now they seem to be pulling back and blaming others for their failure to implement the strategy they embraced. It’s time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.

It’s worth recalling that we were engaged in Afghanistan in the 1980’s, supporting the Mujahadeen against the Soviets. That was a successful policy, but then we pretty much put Afghanistan out of our minds. While no one was watching, what followed was a civil war, the takeover by the Taliban, and the rise of bin Laden and al-Qaeda. All of that set in motion the events of 9/11. When we deployed forces eight years ago this month, it was to make sure Afghanistan would never again be a training ground for the killing of Americans. Saving untold thousands of lives is still the business at hand in this fight. And the success of our mission in Afghanistan is not only essential, it is entirely achievable with enough troops and enough political courage.

In other words, Cheney won’t sit quietly while Obama shifts blame for his own lack of decisiveness onto Bush and Cheney.  The notion is risible anyway.  Obama campaigned for two years on the promise to fight a more robust counterinsurgency strategy, in large part to dispel the notion that he was an anti-war pacifist.  He reaffirmed that decision repeatedly this year, most recently by appointing Ge. Stanley McChrystal, the Army’s leading COIN expert, to command in Afghanistan.  Now that McChrystal has requested the resources that comes with COIN, suddenly it’s all Bush’s fault.

Cheney also rips Obama on eastern Europe:

[A]mong my other concerns about the drift of events under the present administration, I consider the abandonment of missile defense in Eastern Europe to be a strategic blunder and a breach of good faith.

It is certainly not a model of diplomacy when the leaders of Poland and the Czech Republic are informed of such a decision at the last minute in midnight phone calls. It took a long time and lot of political courage in those countries to arrange for our interceptor system in Poland and the radar system in the Czech Republic. Our Polish and Czech friends are entitled to wonder how strategic plans and promises years in the making could be dissolved, just like that – with apparently little, if any, consultation. Seventy years to the day after the Soviets invaded Poland, it was an odd way to mark the occasion.

You hardly have to go back to 1939 to understand why these countries desire – and thought they had – a close and trusting relationship with the United States. Only last year, the Russian Army moved into Georgia, under the orders of a man who regards the collapse of the Soviet Union as the greatest geopolitical disaster of the 20th century. Anybody who has spent much time in that part of the world knows what Vladimir Putin is up to. And those who try placating him, by conceding ground and accommodating his wishes, will get nothing in return but more trouble.

What did the Obama Administration get from Russia for its abandonment of Poland and the Czech Republic, and for its famous “Reset” button? Another deeply flawed election and continued Russian opposition to sanctioning Iran for its pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Now, of course, we call the above “smart power,” only that has to remain in quotes to capture the irony.


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Cheney is cool.

RobCon on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Look over there…a FoxNews reporter! Get him!

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 8:52 AM

As usual, Cheney is dead on target.

I am going to Poland tomorrow and it will be interesting talking to Poles and finding out their opinions on the matter.

Although I read here yesterday Obama has quietly reversed the middle defense agreement they had previously cancelled, after it was obvious he had gotten played for a fool by the Russians.

The Poles want US boots on their soil, they mistrust the Russians deeply

firepilot on October 22, 2009 at 8:53 AM

How about a new Mt Rushmore with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton and a space left for Palin.

RobCon on October 22, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Thank you Cheney for your service to this great nation!

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

here we go again….Cheney has more integrity in his little pinky than dear leader will ever have in his lifetime…

cmsinaz on October 22, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

It’s too early in the day for you..Don’t you have an ACORN office to report to or something, anything?

Tim Zank on October 22, 2009 at 8:55 AM

MSM Headline: Bo Goes to the Groomer, Barks

LibTired on October 22, 2009 at 8:55 AM

I *heart* Cheney.

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Wisdom and experience beat hope and change all day long…

Chicost84 on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue

Beat you to the first post, troll. (middle-finger)

RobCon on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

God Bless Mr. Cheney.

OmahaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

And now a campaign promise from Mr. Hope and Change:

“As President, I will pursue a tough, smart and principled national security strategy – one that recognizes that we have interests not just in Baghdad, but in Kandahar and Karachi, in Tokyo and London, in Beijing and Berlin. I will focus this strategy on five goals essential to making America safer: ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban; securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states; achieving true energy security; and rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century.”

Just how many ways can you spell failure?

Rovin on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

OBAMA SUPPORTER

Bleeds Blue: lacks intelligence and honesty. Pretty well useless and beyond hope.

Basilsbest on October 22, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Gotta love it when Darth Cheney sticks it to Obarfy like that. The force is strong with that one.

tanvec on October 22, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Love Cheney.

deidre on October 22, 2009 at 8:58 AM

The liberals are reeling, they will make accusations, but not link anything to prove their assertion.
I guess they think that Afghanistan if a new country, their problems didn’t develop in the 1980′s.
Some will even try to say a free country, with free elections is a failure…a desperate attempt at changing history.
What fools they are, all they have to do is pick up a paper and see a free Iraq, a nation slowly building to be peaceful.
Obama has spent more time fighting Fox News, then saving the lives of our American Soldiers, and conducting a war.
Imagine, more obsessed with one news organization then a war that leaves people dead…families torn apart, children without parents

But Fox is the enemy…what a pathetic petty man Obama is.

right2bright on October 22, 2009 at 8:59 AM

Thank God for Dick Cheney. A good and smart man who has guts!

cubachi on October 22, 2009 at 8:59 AM

I just want to know why lefties, who want to be everyone’s friend and make sure everyone gets along, want to constantly shit on all of our allies. Tyrants are invited to dinner…friends can dine in the dumpster outside.

search4truth on October 22, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

You wish Azzhole!

mkm19602000 on October 22, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Great speech! Give’em he**!

becki51758 on October 22, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Cheney’s Barry’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

FIFY

grapeknutz on October 22, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Cheney shows how to take down Obama with clear and concise arguments and above all, the truth. This makes Obama look really bad and only amplifies his indecision re: Afghanistan. I still for the life do not know why the opposition doesn’t take advantage of the foreign policy and domestic holes that Obama provides them with to negate his policies. Unbelievable.

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:02 AM

He is magnificent.

(And his daughter ain’t half bad either…)

Oh Mercy on October 22, 2009 at 9:02 AM

How about a new Mt Rushmore with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton and a space left for Palin.

RobCon on October 22, 2009 at 8:54 AM

seconded.

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Bush and Cheney couldn’t have asked for better successors. Whatever anyone thought of them in the last eight years takes on a new light when comparing their resolution, maturity, and love of country to the Two Stooges in the WH today.

sherry on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

I love Dick Cheney.

SueM on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Yeah, well, Obama almost secured the Special Olympics.

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

If this nation were serious about competence, leadership and integrity, Mr. Cheney would be Mr. President today.

Instead, we have a two-bit Malcolm X wanna be American idol celebrity, who can’t find his ass with a flashlight.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Our Polish and Czech friends are entitled to wonder how strategic plans and promises years in the making could be dissolved, just like that – with apparently little, if any, consultation. Seventy years to the day after the Soviets invaded Poland, it was an odd way to mark the occasion.

Absolutely perfectly said. I can just hear Putin on the red phone talking it out with Bambi, specifying the date he should make the announcement, and then laughing after he hangs up.

Cheney is an example of what would would get for a President if the American public went for quality of intellect and experience in a candidate instead of glibness and show-business polish.

zenscreamer on October 22, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Yeah, Cheney’s so ineffective that you need to be here to “set us straight”. Cheney’s critique damages Obama plain and simple – if not then why are you here?

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:05 AM

It’s sad that Cheney has to deliver a speech like this in order to pressure Obama to make a decision on Afghanistan. I’m certain the Dems and drive-bys(I know, I’m being redundant) will do their usual spinning and smearing, but at least it’ll force them to address this issue.

Doughboy on October 22, 2009 at 9:05 AM

And those who try placating him, by conceding ground and accommodating his wishes, will get nothing in return but more trouble.

Should’ve told that to W.

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

So they didn‘t issue the report on Afghanistan that Obama asked them to make public? So Obama didn’t announce he’d implement the conclusions in that reports. So Obama has been decisive and consistent to his own promises in Afghanistan?

That’s what you’re arguing?

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM

Instead, we have a two-bit Malcolm X wanna be American idol celebrity, who can’t find his ass with a flashlight.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:03 AM

But he could probably locate his wife’s while wearing a blindfold a block away…

D2Boston on October 22, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Cheney/Cheney 2012!

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:07 AM

The Poles want US boots on their soil, they mistrust the Russians deeply

firepilot on October 22, 2009 at 8:53 AM

They got about 200,000,000 reasons for that distrust and I don’t blame them.

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Cheney succeeded in Iraq despite the democrats best efforts to defeat the US.

It seems you are still sour about that.

jhffmn on October 22, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

BUT BUT BUT FAUX NEWS PALIN CHENEY BUSH TEABAGGER FAUX NEWS ROGER AILES OIL HALLIBURTON EVIL RICH TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY PALIN BUSH CHENEY NAZI NAZI!@!!!

There, kid. I just wrote your next 50 comments.

Now sit the f*ck down and shut the f*ck up.

Good Lt on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

I love how you guys can mention the words “integrity” and “Cheney” in the same sentence with apparently no irony whatsoever.

I think there’s a lot of things to admire about Dick Cheney as well – his integrity is not one of those things.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Recently, President Obama’s advisors have decided that it’s easier to blame the Bush Administration than support our troops.

Nice! The Former Vice-President accuses the current President of not supporting the troops. That’s very appropriate.

YYZ on October 22, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Nice! The Former Vice-President accuses the current President of not supporting the troops. That’s very appropriate.

YYZ on October 22, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Well, it’s just illustrative of Cheney’s integrity.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:11 AM

And the success of our mission in Afghanistan is not only essential, it is entirely achievable with enough troops and enough political courage.

you had eight years to send more troops you classless wanker.

sesquipedalian on October 22, 2009 at 9:12 AM

I *heart* Cheney.

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Me too.

ladyingray on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM

It’s not hard to see why Cheney re-emerged and is making speeches like this. He’s a man that spent a good part of his life in office and advising American leaders and he sees this bad joke of a President, and his weak world policies, ruining our country. He sees a Communist in the White House, as do many people.

Jeff from WI on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Over 80 days since McChrystal first advised Ogabe on what was needed to successfully prosecute the Afghan War.

80 days of the POTUS appearing on talk shows, pimping for the Olympics, shopping in Paris, and doing spots for late night tv, all while our soldiers are being killed in the mideast.

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM

So they didn‘t issue the report on Afghanistan that Obama asked them to make public? So Obama didn’t announce he’d implement the conclusions in that reports. So Obama has been decisive and consistent to his own promises in Afghanistan?

That’s why this looks so bad for Obama. It reinforces the idea that he hasn’t done his own work and got caught trying to indict Bush/Cheney for their “lack” of due diligence when his policy is a cut and paste of the previous admin. This won’t be covered extensively, but those that count (read our enemies) will notice it and it will reinforce the opinion that Obama’s weak as hell. Who in their right mind would be afraid of him, seriously?

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM

O/T:

North Dakota only state that had an increase in employment. All the rest of the 57 states reported job losses since February—Bush and Cheney to blame according to bleeds blue and other brain-dead misguided liberals.

Look over there…a FoxNews reporter! Get him!

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Speaking of Fox News, Hemmer has to be “salavatating”—Shannon Bream is looking absolutely stunning this morning.

Rovin on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

He’s got more integrity, guts and intellect than every Democrat in the White House and Congress combined.

There’s not a competent individual to be found in Congress or in the White House and they are all corrupt to the core.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

LOL. Thanks for the laugh, sugarbritches.

OmahaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Nothing like Cheney to increase conservative male Testosterone levels.

jp on October 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM

“Pay no attention to Fox News,” -Rahm Emanuel.

“Pay no attention to the man behind the mirror,” -Wizard of Oz.

“Pay no attention to Dick Cheney,” -BleedsBlue.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Everything’s relative PR – compared to Obama, Cheney’s integrity is up there with Pope Benedict.

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Heh, right on time the place fills up with the usual lefty subjects. Funny how they fail to appear on the job loss threads, or those which concern Ogabe’s tanking numbers, the ACORN scandal or his Mao-quoting staff.

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM

I appreciate that VP Cheney is staying vocal and on point. How refreshing next to what was voted into the White House and his Stooge Veep from Cathy’s Diner.

Hening on October 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM

He’s got more integrity, guts and intellect than every Democrat in the White House and Congress combined.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Oh, well now I’m convinced you’re right. Stunning analysis. Well done.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Repost from the QOTD thread, so everyone can see your honesty blinders in action:

the Bush administation writes a report — “writes a report,” not “does something” — detailing how the next administration might be able to fix the mess they made,

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM

If Bush had implemented a new strategy, either during the election or the transition period, you would have been screaming that he was doing it for political reasons/ forcing President Obama into a course of action.

It’s dishonest for you to pretend otherwise.

BadgerHawk on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

BadgerHawk on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

I think there’s a lot of things to admire about Dick Cheney as well – his integrity is not one of those things. Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Between you and BleedsBlue I count two bald assertions and no attempts to support them.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

again you show why you are such a moron.

right4life on October 22, 2009 at 9:18 AM

O/T. Really great news!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/22/new-unemployment-claims-rise-expected/

Now if you add the over 200,000 people who fell off the end of the unemployment rolls this week, you get closer to the real number. Something tells me that not even Fox will break the taboo 10% number announcement this will generate. The legacy media is going to put some serious spin on this.

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2009 at 9:18 AM

I *heart* Cheney.

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Me too.

ladyingray on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM

A real man.

publiuspen on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

OBAMA SUPPORTER

Bleeds Blue: lacks intelligence and honesty. Pretty well useless and beyond hope.

Basilsbest on October 22, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Dude, I always have hope. I even have the t-shirt.

The intellectual and moral dishonesty displayed by Dick Cheney last night is simply breathtaking. Giving them credit for no attacks and giving Obama room to make his own decision (which you won’t, but) here is what the Cheney-Bush administration gave us: a failed war in Afghanistan and war in Iraq based either on dishonesty or incompetence, that was bungled badly for many years at the cost of tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. There is simply no way around that.

I can understand criticisms of the Obama effort. But please, don’t tell me that Dick “three deferments” Cheney knows a thing about winning wars because he does not.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Everything’s relative PR

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM

No. It is not. Morality is not relative to your situations. You either behave morally or you do not. The fact that you think that the current administration has less integrity than the previous administration does not resolve them of their sins.

Moral relativism is and always will be disgraceful. How’s that working out for you?

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

We are at the mercy of lying weasels.

tree hugging sister on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Unfortunately, so are our precious troops’ lives.

tree hugging sister on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

He’s got more integrity, guts and intellect than every Democrat in the White House and Congress combined.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Oh, well now I’m convinced you’re right. Stunning analysis. Well done.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Because you always argue with in depth analysis and never, ever, resort to childish and petty attacks.

It’s cool how you manage to keep your glass hosue standing with irony after all the stones you’ve thrown.

BadgerHawk on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Oh, well now I’m convinced you’re right. Stunning analysis. Well done. Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Yeah well we were waiting for your proof of Cheney’s integrity problem.

/Jeapardy theme…

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

you had eight years to send more troops you classless wanker.

sesquipedalian on October 22, 2009 at 9:12 AM

The left was ALWAYS pushing for more troops!

Remind me, was that before or after they declared the war “lost”?

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. John Kerry on Saturday blamed Republicans for squelching Senate debate on the Iraq war and warned that President Bush’s plan for more troops in Iraq is a mistake.

“Another 21,000 troops sent into Iraq, with no visible end or strategy, ignores the best advice from our own generals and isn’t the best way to keep faith with the courage and commitment of our soldiers,” the Massachusetts Democrat said in his party’s weekly radio address.

Kerry branded Bush’s proposal for additional forces as “nothing more than the escalation of a misguided war.”

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Don’t call it a

Comeback

Shotgun blasts are heard
When I rip and kill, at will
The man of the hour, tower of power, I’ll devour
I’m gonna tie you up and let you understand
That I’m not your average man

Harpazo on October 22, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Halliburton!

/Leftist Playbook

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:20 AM

I miss Dick Cheney, a man of true character!

Thank You Mr. Cheney for all you have done for America. You give me hope there are still men of honor serving our government (or used to be).

trs on October 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Looks like Obama’s cheerleaders are going to be flooding all the conservative blogs today to fight back the Cheney surge!! HaHaHa. They ought to know by now, that when Cheney speaks – he wins – because he comes armed with facts, intelligence and common sense.

Let the left whine. It is what they seem to do best these days.

KickandSwimMom on October 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM

lets see, Bush/Cheney won the war in iraq…and that really upsets the wacko libs, they don’t want the US to win a war anywhere, anytime. it seems like we were winning in afghanistan, until duh one was elected…his election couldn’t have given encouragement to our enemies, could it??? obviously.

right4life on October 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Cheney’s blowing smoke to obscure his failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Are you still living in Barney’s basement? Put that pipe away. If you are still making excuses for Obama you are in a hopeless situation. Stand up Chuck… Gird your loins…

antisocial on October 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Hah, I’d love to have been in the room when Matthews saw this.

SteveMG on October 22, 2009 at 9:23 AM

This picture pretty much sums it all up

orfannkyl on October 22, 2009 at 9:23 AM

here is what the Cheney-Bush administration gave us: a failed war in Afghanistan and war in Iraq based either on dishonesty or incompetence, that was bungled badly for many years at the cost of tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. There is simply no way around that. Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Drudge healdline: “Bored US troops in Iraq taking salsa classes, starting book clubs…”

Sounds like a fail for Al Qaeda in Iraq to me.

I can understand criticisms of the Obama effort. But please, don’t tell me that Dick “three deferments” Cheney knows a thing about winning wars because he does not. Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

See above.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 9:23 AM

oh and Thank God Cheney has the guts to stand up to that fascist thug obama, and his jack-booted associates..

right4life on October 22, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I can understand criticisms of the Obama effort. But please, don’t tell me that Dick “three deferments” Cheney knows a thing about winning wars because he does not.
Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

The reappearance of the obligatory chickenhawk meme.

Odd that the liberal screams from 2004 which claimed that only a combat veteran could lead the nation in time of war have disappeared, coincidentally about the time that Ogabe made the scene.

Wait….did you vote for McCain the combat vet during the last election, or the guy who said that he once considered joining the army?

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 9:24 AM

So, Obama did not want the findings to be publicized so he could do what he always does: vote “present” and follow the lead of others until it’s not politically viable and/or he mucks it up and then denies he ever supported it.

I hate liars and followers.

I love Dick Cheney (and his daughter.)

Diane on October 22, 2009 at 9:24 AM

war in Iraq based either on dishonesty or incompetence

No, it was the Democrat’s war on the war in Iraq that was based on dishonesty and incompetence.

Undermining the Commander in Chief and the troops on the ground, all for greedy and crass political gain.

And it almost worked. The Democrats almost had another Saigon moment for the ages.

But what did the Democrats care? They lied their way into a Congressional majority and elected one of their own, President.

Talk about failure. Your President is going to be a one-term failure and your Conressional Majority is going to get you nothing, smashed on the rocks of health care “reform”.

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make proud and there isn’t a more arrogant sunovabitch than Barack Obama.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Nice! The Former Vice-President accuses the current President of not supporting the troops.

It’s not an accusation when it’s true. It’s a statement of fact.

If Obama really supported the policy he and his Administration embraced in March, he would have told his leftwingnut base to go pound sand (the ones who pretended to care about Afghanistan’s outcome long enough to get Obama elected, revealing that they don’t care about the troops either to the extent that they can be used politically for the advantage of Democrats) and sent them in LONG AGO.

He won’t because he’s a coward and is afraid of his loonbat base. He’s dithering while people are dying.

This is what being the Commander in Chief is. He’s a weak leader.

Your boy. Deal.

Good Lt on October 22, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Oh, well now I’m convinced you’re right. Stunning analysis. Well done.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM

If he’s telling the truth, and it appears that he is, then his “integrity factor” isn’t relevant. What is relevant is that if Obama used the Afghan policy handed down from Bush/Cheney and formally adopted it in March ’09, then it’s a little tough to say that the previous admin. (the one that provided you with the policy at your request, and secretly to boot, again per Obama) didn’t “do enough” and therefore the current strategy is inherently flawed. Obama got caught on this one and it makes him look bad. HE could fix this TODAY by announcing that McCrystal gets the 40k troops and an open pledge to do whatever it will take to win the “good war” in Afghanistan. He won’t do it but it would negate some of Cheney’s critique.

volnation on October 22, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Watched Morning Joe this morning and they repeatedly played a small clip from Cheney’s speech. It was the sentence about Obama dithering. They completely ignored the part about Rham Emanuel being a LIAR.

Are they stupid enough to think no one else will report the rest of the speech? And, what is wrong with that brain dead Scarborough?

joedoe on October 22, 2009 at 9:26 AM

And, what is wrong with that brain dead Scarborough?

He is a tool.

OmahaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 9:28 AM

WASHINGTON — U.S. Senator John Kerry said, in an interview to be aired Sunday, it was “irresponsible” to send more U.S. troops to Afghanistan at this time, amid a deepening election crisis that has placed the Kabul government’s legitimacy at stake.

WASHINGTON – Sen. John Kerry said Sunday he still isn’t sold on further escalating the Afghan fight with more troops after meeting with the top war boss in Kabul.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/10/19/2009-10-19_kerry_not_yet_convinced_afghan_surge_is_right_move.html#ixzz0UffYX8KC

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Nothing like Cheney to increase conservative male Testosterone levels.

jp on October 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM

It’s the only testosterone out there JP. I would know. I’ve dated liberals.

CarolynM on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

you realize that iraq and afghanistan are not the same war, yes? and that one of the first things obama did as prez was to send 40,000 more troops to afghanistan?

sesquipedalian on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

that was bungled badly for many years at the cost of tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. There is simply no way around that.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Can you please name a war that was run smoothly? I know Revolutionary war, War of 1812, WWII and the Civil war had many issues that we had to slog through.

WashJeff on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Our nation produces such men as Dick Cheney.

WOW – freaking WOW

jake-the-goose on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

The return of the chickenhawk smear?

Amazing, I guess it doesn’t apply to Obama or Biden, both of whom said that winning in Afghanistan – the “right war” – was essential for our security (yes, Biden’s son in in the military but he never served).

I’m beginning to think the allegation is being used for politics. Hmm, I’m such a cynic.

SteveMG on October 22, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Wait….did you vote for McCain the combat vet during the last election, or the guy who said that he once considered joining the army?

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 9:24 AM

I didn’t for a variety of reasons. However, I great respect for the man and he differed from Cheney in a number of key areas including torture and paying attention to Afghanistan. Cheney is a cheap fear-monger with an authoritarian soul.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Are they stupid enough to think no one else will report the rest of the speech? And, what is wrong with that brain dead Scarborough?

joedoe on October 22, 2009 at 9:26 AM

He grovels because he needs to keep his TV gig. There were rumours that he would make a run for national office. If he has any sense he’ll stay put and at least have a job.

KickandSwimMom on October 22, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Can we get Cheney one of those hearts like Iron Man had in the movie and run him in 2012?
Run, Dick, run!

Sugar Land on October 22, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Can we get Cheney one of those hearts like Iron Man had in the movie and run him in 2012?
Run, Dick, run!

Sugar Land on October 22, 2009 at 9:32 AM

LOL!

KickandSwimMom on October 22, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Cheney is a cheap fear-monger with an authoritarian soul.

Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:30 AM

yeah cheney surrounds himself with marxist devotees of mao…and fascist thugs who tell companies how much they can pay people…

right4life on October 22, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Obama has only himself to blame. Faulting Bush isn’t new with this bunch, but it was Obama’s failure to make a timely decision on Afghanistan that got Cheney to speak up. I’m glad Cheney let him have it.

txhsmom on October 22, 2009 at 9:33 AM

and that one of the first things obama did as prez was to send 40,000 more troops to afghanistan?

sesquipedalian on October 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM

and restrict the rules of combat so more of our troops die…good job.

right4life on October 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Yeah well we were waiting for your proof of Cheney’s integrity problem.

/Jeapardy theme…

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Glad you asked.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30670941/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15433467/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14767199/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14767199/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19089185/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18927300/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23367672

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15443701

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24939201/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11381222/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18977033/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442719/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28565549/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5233810/

I can provide more if you’re interested, or you could just bother to do a little research yourself, since, apparently, you’ve been asleep since 2001.

Proud Rino on October 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM

I didn’t for a variety of reasons. However, I great respect for the man and he differed from Cheney in a number of key areas including torture and paying attention to Afghanistan. Cheney is a cheap fear-monger with an authoritarian soul.
Bleeds Blue on October 22, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Yet you took the time to specifically mention Cheney’s deferments, as if such a thing was important for you to consider.

Regardless, considering that renditions still exist and Gitmo is still open under Ogabe’s watch, you must be having quite the time even getting out of bed in the morning.

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Hey, remember when Cheney led that attack on MSNBC for its POV journalism?

Yeah, me neither.

SteveMG on October 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM

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