Serious, respectable news outlet wonders: Is Cheney mentally unbalanced?

posted at 6:04 pm on October 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

Remember, the knock on Fox is that it’s not just their opinion shows, like Beck and Hannity, that tilt one way. It’s their daytime “hard news” programming too (including … Shep?). Bear that in mind as you watch this and mull the exit question I put to you earlier.

On a related note, while Karl Rove isn’t the first, fiftieth, or five-thousandth guy I want giving lectures about why it’s a bad idea to politicize war, he raises a fair point in today’s op-ed: Why is Axelrod sitting in on war cabinet meetings?


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highhopes on October 22, 2009 at 7:34 PM

That was great but yesterday’s news

CWforFreedom on October 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM

As to Rove and the politicization of war, it depends on what is meant. Poltics are involved in any war because you need the public onboard with the idea that a war is necessary. Where it crosses the line, however, is when political consideration trumps strategy.

Rove may or not have politicized the war. Allahpundit may very well be correct. All I’m saying is that is very serious charge and should be backed up.

terryannonline on October 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM

My 7;26 link was to a story at Ace.
The White House tried to exclude Fox News from the pool covering the pay czar story. The Washington network chiefs refused to participate if Fox was excluded.
This is what the real ‘chilling effect’ looks like. leftard kiddies.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Good picture od Shuster! It is kind of how I see him in my nightmares.

Star20 on October 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that claiming someone politicized a war is a pretty serious charge and should backed up if it is going to said?

Yes but how does one prove it? When Lincoln welcomed back the troops from combat, was that “politicizing” the war?

Same with a Truman or Eisenhower. When both went to visit the troops in Korea, was that “politicizing” it?

Apparently to the left, Bush’s celebration of the overthrow of Saddam was politicizing things. Was it? Sure, in part. But not all.

It’s an easy charge to make but one hard to prove.

SteveMG on October 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Of course Rove politicized the war. Remember the GI-George stunt with the flight suit, the aircraft carrier and the nifty banner?

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM

One only has to look at the way he was received by those sailors when their CINC arrived at the end of their mission to know that you are full of it.

The filthy lying coward in the White House is killing troops by his inaction. You care about that at all or are we going to remain in discussion about a twenty-minute event that took place in 2003? What do you want to tell the families of those troops dying because their CINC is too much a coward to come to a decision about what to do in Afghanistan.

highhopes on October 22, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Oh no. They’re criticizing us!!!! We’re being terrorized and oppressed!! Aaargh!!!! Bunker Hill!!1 Revolution!!!! Tree of Liberty, I Water Thee!!!!! I’

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Grow Fins…GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Rndguy on October 22, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Why is Axelrod sitting in on war cabinet meetings?

Why is Axelrod not in prison?

MB4 on October 22, 2009 at 7:38 PM

It’s an easy charge to make but one hard to prove.

SteveMG on October 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM

In your comment you pointed to events that could be called politicization. So one can point to examples of it happening.

terryannonline on October 22, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Why is Axelrod sitting in on war cabinet meetings?

Umm, because he runs your country is the 1st answer that comes to mind.. Just like he ran the campaign & just like he’s going to run the great USA into the ground.

saus on October 22, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Fins you are such the useful idiot… the President is trying to control speech …. the fact that does not bother you is very telling. March in step now boy.

CWforFreedom on October 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM

You people are so delusional.

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Fins..it is you who is delusional. Do you think you are immune if liberty is gone? Do you think liberty is just for the conservatives?

Obama and the Dems ignore the voters at their own polictial peril!

Rndguy on October 22, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Of course Rove politicized the war. Remember the GI-George stunt with the flight suit, the aircraft carrier and the nifty banner?

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM

At somepoint you will have to stop blaming Bush for your leaders failures!

Rndguy on October 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Crazy like a fox!

Grafted on October 22, 2009 at 7:49 PM

So what if Bush flew onto a carrier? He’s a pilot who flew one of the most unforgiving aircraft of its time. A lot of those pilots died, but Bush survived.

There’s nothing wrong with a little bit of pro-American propaganda. Hell, the Fourth of July can be considered propaganda if someone wants to be cynical.

So is May Day among communist countries.

Liam on October 22, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Where are you, Fins?

To remind others of your racist quote since you’re such a liberal:

Poor Rush. He’s like teh Rosa Parks of the commentariat, always made to sit at the back of the bus. Poor whiny baby, blubbering all the way to the bank.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Liam on October 22, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Please, don’t ask me to watch anything or anyone on MSDNC. It gives me heartburn and nightmares.

Jvette on October 22, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Of course Rove politicized the war. Remember the GI-George stunt with the flight suit, the aircraft carrier and the nifty banner?

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM

I always felt that the aircraft carrier event was meant as a morale boost for America, her military men and women, and her allies.

We were still reeling from 9/11. The victorious feeling was needed after the terror and heart wrenching things we had seen and heard after. It gave us the sense that something was being done and that Bush was a true leader.

But, the libs demonized Bush for it and ever after that event they demonized the war, the military and American’s who supported both. The libs politicized it because they knew they were toast in the upcoming elections.

Jvette on October 22, 2009 at 8:18 PM

God, I wish Cheney were president.

Alden Pyle on October 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Allahpundit,

Saying Karl Rove politicized war is pretty serious charge in my opinion.

terryannonline on October 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Just Allah’s way of telling us to add Rove to the list of men he’s jealous of and who intimidate him. It is a very long list.

rinohumper on October 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM

David Shuster is mentally ill.

bill30097 on October 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Freeze this video at 2:37.

And enjoy! Check out the crazed look of a man who is put on the spot to lie about and against a man who did nothing but protect this country. Against a man who worked diligently to save innocent civilians from another savage attack.

Yeah, 2:37… that’s the face of due diligence. That’s the face of desperation. That’s the face of an actor. A bad actor that could perhaps be used again in a Barack Obama fundraiser yes we can hope and change and bush sucks sorta gathering in 14 different venues.

/Journalism. It’s best left to We The People. In Pajamas.

Key West Reader on October 22, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Journalism. It’s best left to We The People. In Pajamas.

Key West Reader on October 22, 2009 at 8:55 PM

My bad… Freeze it at 2:07,

Sorry

Key West Reader on October 22, 2009 at 8:59 PM

These were the smart a$$es skulking in the back of the classroom back in high school that the cheerleaders laughed at, the teachers really wanted to throw erasers at, and the jocks “accidentally” bumped into in the hallway.

Comeuppance.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Now remember, kids: MSNBC is 18% owned by Microsoft.
Anyone who’s buying Windows 7 is helping their demagoguery.
Macs for the win!

ChristianRock on October 22, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Haha, i actually remember a couple of years ago there was a lot of talk about Microsoft selling their stake in MSNBC. Tucker Carlson even talked about it on his show, i wonder whatever happened to that?

clearbluesky on October 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Hey GrowFins, you are not a liberal at all are you? Don’t you agree that its scary that this present administration complains and whines all the time about any opposition media? Every president that I remember was criticized and now here comes this Obama and he can’t take any so he obviously wants to shut down any opposition. True liberals would welcome all ideas to be discussed but the Democratic party is now full of leftists who do not want dissent and they are not even trying to hide that fact now. Remember Growfins if they get rid of all the opposition they probably will come after you next as an “enemy of the people”.

garydt on October 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Remember the GI-George stunt with the flight suit, the aircraft carrier and the nifty banner?

Grow Fins143 on October 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Yup, sure do. The banner was to celebrate the ship’s return from a successful deployment. After all, the ship itself never fought in the Iraq War, so how could it claim victory? Your utter child-like perception of military protocol is duly noted.

After that aircraft carrier photo-op, the Leftist media fawned over Bush. Chrissy Matthews got a tingle up his leg, as did many others. 48 hours later, the Kool Aid kicked in and they forever forgot what they said. However, their words are immortalized at Media Matters.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200604270005

BTW, your draft dodging hero Bill Clinton staged 5 photo ops on aircraft carriers. 5 times as many as the guy who actually knew how to fly a military aircraft.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq49-1.htm

getalife.

Del Dolemonte on October 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Once again, guppy fish is an attention whore–do not feed him…He needs to give his momma her clothes back anyway…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 11:58 PM

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq49-1.htm

getalife.

Del Dolemonte on October 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Del Dolemonte: I have that website on my favourites,its
excellent!:)

canopfor on October 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Serious, respectable blog commenters wonder: Is the lap dog MSM mentally unbalanced?

Fixed the headline for ya, AP. Now it reflects the truth.

theotherone on October 23, 2009 at 12:43 AM

If David Shuster opens his mouth any wider rats are going to move in and set up winter camp…

IntheNet on October 22, 2009 at 6:12 PM

I dunno, that may be one abode even a rat wouldn’t inhabit.

soundingboard on October 23, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Grow Fins on October 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Heh, projectile projection.

soundingboard on October 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM

Shuster is still mad that Madcow got a prime time show and he didn’t.

Speedwagon82 on October 23, 2009 at 1:11 AM

I remember back in the old days of Crossfire when you would get all the ridiculously loaded question by the “Right” or the “Left” depending on whether Bill Press or Buchanan/Novack were asking the question.

But at least those guys were supposed to be putting their bias into their questions.

Both of those loaded questions…the gratuitous reference to Cheney’s military deferments (what did THAT have to do with…well, anything???)…the twice made assertion that Cheney is mentally unstable…

if MSNBC were a real news organization, it would fire Shuster tomorrow. He is a disagrace. More so than Olby…because at least Olby is in the commentator business. D.GOOCH

DGOOCH on October 23, 2009 at 1:25 AM

You can bet your sweet A$$ that it ain’t no Nobel Peace Prize. Me bet is that he desires victory from those who attacked us. He apologizes for nothing and has no need to.

bluegrass on October 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM

“Why is Axelrod sitting in on war cabinet meetings?”

Also why is Gibbs as the Press Secretary sitting in on these meetings also?

JeffinSac on October 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM

One thing they forgot……..Cheney has nothing to lose Hussein has everything to lose. You Decide.

Nice attempt to smear someone who is just commenting based on their knowledge and facts.

BigMike252 on October 23, 2009 at 1:42 PM

No democrat is fit to lick Cheney’s shoes.

proconstitution on October 23, 2009 at 3:52 PM

When you spend your time attacking the messenger rather than debating the message, you have already conceded and have lost the argument. I see that the leftwing media has conceded the debate about the need for a surge in Afghanistan.

Theophile on October 24, 2009 at 3:23 AM

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