Quotes of the day

posted at 10:36 pm on October 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

“Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.

“Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme…

“The debate means the argument over whether outspoken talk show hosts are reviving a beaten party or trashing its brand is likely to persist through the 2010 midterms and into the 2012 presidential primary.”

***
“Buchanan established his through his 1992 primary challenge to George H. W. Bush. He won no states and few delegates, but inflicted serious damage on the president with a strong (near 40 percent) showing the New Hampshire primary and emerged as the uncontested leader of the G.O.P.’s economic nationalist wing.

“At the same tine, Buchanan’s vitriolic brand of cultural conservatism and isolationist foreign policy tendencies marked him as a frightening figure to Middle America—and to a large chunk of the Republican Party. He had a big base, yes, but he also scored alarmingly high negative ratings in polls…

“Given the trajectory of her overall poll numbers, that trend will probably intensify in the months ahead: More and more Republicans seem to be realizing that nominating Palin would, as John McCain’s old campaign manager put it, be ‘catastrophic’ for the G.O.P. This means that, if she does run (and it’s certainly possible she won’t), she’ll be a contender in Iowa and some other early states—and she may even pull off a few wins. But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”


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But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

Well, if that is what you believe, stop worrying about her then.

deidre on October 22, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Neither, Palin.

Speakup on October 22, 2009 at 10:39 PM

She can relate and communictae with middle America like no other elitist can…

mjbrooks3 on October 22, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Buchanan or Reagan?

I know these aren’t your words, but this is pretty weak.

To even remotely compare Palin to that isolationist beyond common sense, not-so-closet anti-Semite is repugnant to me.

(….Yes, I’m talking about Buchanan. Just in case anyone needed clarification.)

Hawkins1701 on October 22, 2009 at 10:41 PM

the argument over whether outspoken talk show hosts are reviving a beaten party or trashing its brand is likely to persist

These two things are not mutually exclusive.

BadgerHawk on October 22, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Much more Pat that Jesse…

mjbrooks3 on October 22, 2009 at 10:42 PM

There is little doubt that those who today say Palin would be an electoral catastrophe will be the first to criticize her if she doesn’t run.

RedRedRice on October 22, 2009 at 10:43 PM

the party [leadership] will unite to stop her, in the hope of preserving their sinecure.

If they do prevail, it will be the end of the GOP as a party of national significance, and most likely, and end of the United States as we have known it.

Skandia Recluse on October 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Allah! Where’s the Romer testimony quote that the best of the stimulus is passed, and the rest of the effect of the stimulus will have “little effect” throughout mid 2010???!!

Did I miss it?

EPIC FAIL

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party Whigs will unite to stop her.”

FIFY

Firefly_76 on October 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM

I’m confused. If they can stop her so easily, what’s the fuss? She’s old news, right? Huckabee and Romney already have her beat, right? She quit and that’s going to kill her chances, right? She’s radioactive and so is her family, right? Besides, if she gets far enough to, you know, be a real threat, the party will unite against her (which is interesting considering the crowds she drew during the campaign), right? So why do we keep hearing about Sarah? Why is every scrap of everything she writes–sometimes as little as two paragraphs–treated as if a nuclear bomb went off? Congress Critters run! Obama responds! The Lefties’ heads explode in unison!

Unless, she is a bigger threat and has a bigger chance than they let on…

UnderstandingisPower on October 22, 2009 at 10:46 PM

covert operations.

ted c on October 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Traffic must be slow again. Multiple post for ——.

Planes are taking off for Las Vegas all the time. Check in & fly away.

Americannodash on October 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Lets see,who can track,scope out,pull the trigger on,
de-gut,make a fur coat or rug,and cook the meal from
said game,

and then go out on the political trail!!

Ummm,I`m banking on the Great Hunter,former Governor
of Alaska,Sarah Palin!!

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Go Hoffman!!!

mjbrooks3 on October 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Then we will unite to kick the GOP to the curb.

Orange Doorhinge on October 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Isn’t there anything else more important to discuss this evening?

*shakes head, keeps walking*

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 10:50 PM

“But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

Sadly, that would surprise me not at all. As she showed in Alaska, her principles are more important than her party. She’ll never be controlled by the GOP the way a Huckabee or Romney would. So they’d rather torpedo her primary campaign and anoint a loser like Huckabee(Romney would have a chance at beating Obama), than let the best man/woman win.

Doughboy on October 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Conservatives roar; GOP trembles

Very intetresting!!

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

its good to see hope still lives. I want what this guy is smoking. the party will unite behind Her and drive the marxist back across the seas

unseen on October 22, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Sarah and Mitt. Bring it on, doncha know? The women of this Country are networked and ready. Time to kick ass and take names and save this Country. Join, if you want. We’re going back to the 50′s where kids were safe to walk the street to school. (a free choice school, not a government school).

suzyk on October 22, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Go Sarah, Go Sarah!

Punditpawn on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Sarah Palin is unelectable… if the GOP doesn’t close the primaries. If they don’t we will get another democrat-elected RINO.

chicagojedi on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme…

A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.
- Baltasar Gracian

MB4 on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Pitchfork Sarah

Sarah Palin, should she decide to run for president in 2012, is on course to become the next Pat Buchanan or Jesse Jackson
===========================================================

The Leftys are fixated,me thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

“But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

The RINOs might, and then they would find their bank accounts emptier than they already are…..

By all means, let’s let the ‘press’ pick our candidate again.

I wonder what they would say to a Petraeus/Palin ticket…?

Seven Percent Solution on October 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

And here I thought (hahaha) when I saw Palin’s picture for qotd that it would be an excerpt of her resounding endorsement of Hoffman and conservatism.

But that would make her look all leaderlike and stuff, I s’pose. ~eye roll~

KittyLowrey on October 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 10:50 PM

The survival of the United States as a nation of free people, conservative by nature, frugal and self reliant yet generous to those in need, inventive and innovative, a reliable ally to friends and fearsome enemy to those who would seek our demise, is not important to you?

You think all of the above just kinda happens, that you have no part in any of it? That there are no real threats to our future and it’s all just politic?

Skandia Recluse on October 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM

So-o-o-o many people afraid of her. I find that quite interesting.

cjs1943 on October 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Man, every day there’s some snarl or snip or tidbit pulled from somewhere, even if it’s only a re-treaded quote or a regurgitated “fear” from some operative from the McCain camp or somewhere else, all directed at Sarah Palin.

We get that this is a Go Huck site.

But do we have to swallow this crap day after day? It’s becoming tiresome.

You could try to become truly open and honest on the subject. Do you know how hard I had to dig to find independent quotes from her economic speech in the Far East, from Democratic operatives who were quoted as cautioning their peeps, on the subject of Sarah Palin’s supposed stupidity, and I quote, “This woman is bright.”

Where was that reported? Certainly not here. All we’re treated to is a post of a poll with big number for The Huckster and a “Surge” caption under it that stays up for days on end.

Who knows if Palin will run. But, if she does, she’s going to shake this joint up. Good for her. It’s about time somebody came along whom who is a better than even money bet to be saying what they actually think.

IndieDogg on October 22, 2009 at 10:59 PM

the party [leadership] will unite to stop her, in the hope of preserving their sinecure.
If they do prevail, it will be the end of the GOP as a party of national significance, and most likely, and end of the United States as we have known it.

Skandia Recluse on October 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM

No, there will be one final card to play but the players who hold that card fear that the playing of that card will ope Pandora’ box. But have no fear, if push comes to shove – that card will be played. Buy more ammo and be ready for the day. And when the day comes do what you hae to do.

bill30097 on October 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I don’t see how any can make a comparison of Palin and Buchanan. Folks love Buchanan but his negative bias toward Israel makes him unelectable. Palin = very pro-Israel. Thats the difference that “could” make it for her. If she’ll only venture into some new territory issue-wise. DD

Darvin Dowdy on October 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM

“Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are [conservativism -] wildly popular with the conservative base

That’s accurate, now.

“Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama

Whoever is saying this is absolutely clueless. It is not “disgust” with The Precedent. It is the clear realization that The Precedent and his lunatic band of useful idiots in Congress are attacking the very foundations of this nation, weakening us in the face of our enemies, violating all trusts that we had with allies, actually destroying the dollar, taking over industry, regulating industry into control (and through idiocy like global warming), and on and on …

and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme…

Er … the federal government friggin’ OWNS two car companies. They are making up laws as they go, with the new restrictions they are arbitrarily applying to recipients of TARP funds. Extreme is here, baby. Washington has gone over the edge, and then some. They are PROUD to tell everyone that they pushed through the most expensive new spending bill in US history without letting anyone read it, forcing its passage on Friday, when The Precedent didn’t even bother to sign it until TUESDAY!!!! My G-d!

“The debate means the argument over whether outspoken talk show hosts are reviving a beaten party or trashing its brand is likely to persist through the 2010 midterms and into the 2012 presidential primary.”

LOL. “The debate” … ooooh …. is among the left and useless Republicans who want to hang with the Dems at the important times. They can get on the bus with Dede Scazzofava. These are different times. The future is going to be set before the 2010 elections, if the monetary disaster doesn’t hit first.

These people had better realize what the actual situation is.

progressoverpeace on October 22, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Skandia Recluse on October 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM

I think you misunderstand my frustration. I like Allah, but I’m getting sick of the same Palin fights. It is too early to anoint anyone for 2012. I love Palin, but I don’t think she can pull off a national win…too much damage from the first campaign and too many stupid voters not willing to listen to anything outside of The Daily Show.

There are only so many times we can all give our take on Cuda. He needs to give the Palin threads a break.

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM

And here I thought (hahaha) when I saw Palin’s picture for qotd that it would be an excerpt of her resounding endorsement of Hoffman and conservatism.

But that would make her look all leaderlike and stuff, I s’pose. ~eye roll~

KittyLowrey on October 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

+1

Allah, this Buchanan crap is not only nonsense, it’s already played out in Headlines. Surely on this busy news day, there are better snippets to qualify as QOTD.

ornery_independent on October 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

She won’t run. But she will be a player. And a rich one.

bigjack on October 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

Sarah Palin is heaps smarter than Mitt Romney was. :D

Only problem Sarah has … is Huck. Huck is the spoiler for her.

But there’s all kinds of possibilities – perhaps Sarah won’t run for prez …

What if Jim DeMint ran in the primaries with an understanding that Palin is his VEEP? Hmmmmmm? Or with just an understanding that Palin gets a high post in his administration (I like Secretary of State).

A DeMint / Palin alliance kind of “marrys” the best of the Ayatollahs with the Grass Roots.

HondaV65 on October 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Palin isn’t Reagan or Buchanan: It’s not 1980 or 1992

The threat posed by Obama and the thugs who use him as a front is far greater than Carter and Clinton–combined.

I don’t know if Palin is the answer, but trying to put her into a neat little Historical Box is pointless and useless.

The economy is collapsing and the POTUS declares war on the First Amendment and health insurance companies.

Somebody needs to do SOMETHING, and Palin did.

tomorrow the MSM will wet themselves over and over and over

Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2009 at 11:06 PM

What? The grassroots will lift her up. Don’t underestimate Sarah.

njpat on October 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM

This is so laughable, and since the author compared her to Jackson, probably racist too!

She already threw her hat in the ring in New York, not that our boy Allah wants THAT to be it’s own topic!

You can bet that is making the Vichy Republicans heads explode! When Hoffman wins this thing, and thanks the ‘Cuda, that will be the story of the GOP, period.

gary4205 on October 22, 2009 at 11:09 PM

With her endorsement of Hoffman, and he wins, that will be a big win for her, also.

cjs1943 on October 22, 2009 at 11:09 PM

“But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop elect her.”

FIFY

Sarah Palin is unelectable… if the GOP doesn’t close the primaries. If they don’t we will get another democrat-elected RINO.

chicagojedi on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

This is my biggest concern why she may not get the nomination. That the Dems will come out in droves to help elect a Dem-Lite like Huck or Mittens. Then , it’s 2008 redeux…

davek70 on October 22, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Palin 2012. We need her to be able to put in play her policies and not just be a figurehead. She is a mirror image to Reagan.

royzer on October 22, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Laura in Maryland on October 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM

I know how you feel. Tonight my spirits are buoyed by an overdose of cookies. The sugar hang over tomorrow will be painful.

regards

Skandia Recluse on October 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM

“Given the trajectory of her overall poll numbers, that trend will probably intensify in the months ahead: More and more Republicans seem to be realizing that nominating Palin would, as John McCain’s old campaign manager put it, be ‘catastrophic’ for the G.O.P. This means that, if she does run (and it’s certainly possible she won’t), she’ll be a contender in Iowa and some other early states—and she may even pull off a few wins. But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

So oft in political wars
The disputants, I ween
Rail on in utter foolishness
Of what each tea leaf does mean
And speculate so confidently about a future
Not one of them has seen!

Cheshire Cat on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Maybe I’m just a bit fatalistic these days, but I tend to think that the political situation in this country has progressed far enough that the republic may fail altogether (functionally if not officially) before Conservatives regain formal power. Therefore, I currently ascribe to the view that we have nothing really to lose and everything to gain by sticking to our principles. I am not interested in attracting Independents for the sake of an electoral win if it torpedoes our chances to actually effect long-term Conservative/Libertarian policies.

I’d rather go out with a bang than a whimper. I’ll support the most reliable fiscal and small-gov’t Conservative in any race. If that’s Sarah in 2012, I’ll support her regardless of whether the pundits say she can win. If it’s someone else, same deal. I will NOT support another McCain, no matter how well he polls against Obama. I’m just PRAYING the Repubs don’t nominate such a candidate and thus force me to vote third-party, because I still WANT to win, I just want to do it by sticking to my principles. Don’t let us down, GOP: you still have time to pull your heads out of the sand.

Animator Girl on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Where are they getting Buchanan? That’s a wider canyon than end the fed paulnut.

jhffmn on October 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM

I think she is the silver bullet that will get this country to be energy independent. She will unleash economic good times with her drill here, drill now position.

cjs1943 on October 22, 2009 at 11:14 PM

The ONLY reason I put up a 4′by 6′ sign( McCain Palin ) on my Privacy Fence facing the street was because of her — the so called Media — tarred and feathered her. Like what the Media did during Vietnam to our Military — I will not forgive or forget the Foreign and Domestic Enemy of The United States of America .

wheels on October 22, 2009 at 11:14 PM

The conventional wisdom that’s Sarah’s radioactive
will begin to change in a month or so as her book is released and Sarah makes various media apperances to hawk her book…More and more people will “take a second look” and Sarah will continue to have a strong influence as she works to help liked minded conservatives for the House in 2010. Dismiss her and her chances against the Huckster and Romney if you like, but perceptions can change a great deal in the next 3 years, and Sarah seems to have
more influence than her likely GOP rivals for the GOP nomination soley on her masterful use of Facebook. If she lays the proper groundwork (between her book’s launch and the November 2010 elections), Sarah should be the favorite for the nomination.

HGFinley on October 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Reagan, obviously!

t.ferg on October 22, 2009 at 11:16 PM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

What party? LOL.

I’m don’t think she is running, myself. She is doing tons of important and effective work out of formal politics, as she had said she would do when she first announced her resignation. She can move the national conversation, and has. More than any of the people being interviewed about her, that’s for sure.

progressoverpeace on October 22, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Another leftist saying Palin is done. Man, they keep coming don’t they? They never tire of regurgitating it (and Allah never tires of posting them all — haven’t we seen every anti-Palin piece ever written on Hot Air?) But just a reminder, today’s poll doesn’t count for much. It’s the Nov 2012 poll that counts.

Christian Conservative on October 22, 2009 at 11:18 PM

What these moderates don’t understand is that the country has been pulled so far to the left with 0bama and his crew, that it is going to require some extremism to the right to get the pendulum to swing back to a right-of-center country.

cjs1943 on October 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Allah, this Buchanan crap is not only nonsense, it’s already played out in Headlines. Surely on this busy news day, there are better snippets to qualify as QOTD.

ornery_independent on October 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Allahpundit is a beta male and as such every bit as afraid of Palin as the liberal/socialist/communist left is.

doriangrey on October 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Will Obama in 2012 be the Jimmy Carter of 1980? Or the
Walter Mondale of 1984?

HGFinley on October 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM

The Buchanan analogy is just dumb. Buchanan was playing on an protectionist wave that did well in NH during 91-92 recession, but few places elsewhere. Sarah is free market, pro-capitalist with strong libertarian leanings, almost the exact opposite of Buchanan.

Sarah’s run in 2012 would be a like Reagan’s in 1980. After electrifying the convention in 1976, he prevailed in 1980 against a massive leftie assault, ridicule by media, even a third party spoiler run by a Frumian RINO (John Anderson)

Palin = Reagan 2.0

Norwegian on October 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Buchanan never had a real shot. Maybe Sarah doesn’t either.

orfannkyl on October 22, 2009 at 11:25 PM

GO CUDA GO. what ever your role is in the 2010 and beyond. : )

hawkman on October 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Those are your quotes of the day?

Pitiful.

notropis on October 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM

To even remotely compare Palin to that isolationist beyond common sense, not-so-closet anti-Semite is repugnant to me.

(….Yes, I’m talking about Buchanan. Just in case anyone needed clarification.)

Hawkins1701 on October 22, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I couldn’t agree more. No comparison works because Palin is true to herself much like Reagan was. If the Repubs continue to ignore or try to marginalize her, they will be in for a rude awakening come election day.

docdave on October 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

Can we get some names? who are these people… the GOP? I’d like to know who they are…

CCRWM on October 22, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Sarah Palin is heaps smarter than Mitt Romney was. :D

Only problem Sarah has … is Huck. Huck is the spoiler for her.

But there’s all kinds of possibilities – perhaps Sarah won’t run for prez …

What if Jim DeMint ran in the primaries with an understanding that Palin is his VEEP? Hmmmmmm? Or with just an understanding that Palin gets a high post in his administration (I like Secretary of State).

A DeMint / Palin alliance kind of “marrys” the best of the Ayatollahs with the Grass Roots.

HondaV65 on October 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM

I normally agree with just about everything you say, but on this, we gotta part company a bit.

Now you are right, she is smarter than Romney. She would have seen the idiot RomneyCare fiasco coming from a mile away. Sarah has the kind of smarts, instinct really, that can’t be taught.

Huckabee, dunno. Looking at the schedule of primaries, he might be out before he starts. Both appeal to the Christian vote, but this won’t really be a “social values” election. This will be an election based on rock solid conservative principals of small government, and fiscal responsibility.

It will also be an election about upholding the Constitution. Sarah wins that one hands down.

I actually think Romney, with his perceived fiscal credentials, might be more of a competitor, for a bit.

Two problems with DeMint, who I think is awesome.

First, the guy is a Senator. We don’t elect Senators to POTUS often, and with damned good reason, as Obama glaringly points out.

We elect Governors because, besides declaring war, their job entails everything the President’s job does.

To be POTUS, and an effective POTUS, you need executive experience. Palin has almost two decades of it when you combine all of her jobs.

Second, Palin will not allow herself to be second chair again. She will not allow herself to be put in the position of being someone else’s lackey, and then when they screw the pooch, get blamed for it, even though she busted her ass. (See:McCain, John S.)

Nope, Sarah will be the candidate, or nothing, you can pretty much bet on that.

Now a Palin/DeMint ticket is another story. Sarah is young, and in incredible health, as far as we know, so DeMint would have 8 years to learn the ropes, and have his own 8 years after her. THAT would be a really
solid ticket.

I don’t know why, because my fantasy ticket would see Liz or Michelle Bachmann as number two, but realistically, neither have all that much experience, though I think either could do great. For some reason, I keep thinking we might see the ‘Cuda pick Rick Perry. But who knows.

Jim DeMint is certainly a solid conservative, and would be perfect. My only thought is about strategery. Would his vacant Senate seat end up in the hands of another strong conservative, a Vichy Republican, or heaven forbid, a democrat/communist?

THAT
would be a huge factor in the pick. He may be too valuable in the Senate.

gary4205 on October 22, 2009 at 11:36 PM

This is really shoddy political analysis, and a ridiculous analogy which has no more reason for being I can see other than whim or wish-fulfilling anti-Palinism.

rrpjr on October 22, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Machismo is another factor in not letting her play game. She knows it and will not back down. Pitchfork a woman? Are we speaking of Jeanne D’Arc and then after that, burn her at the stake? Whoa that’s bold.

Anybody here recall doing that to a current GOP politician? I mean we are very amusing even when we disagree-not with trolls-I have not gone to that extreme. I have a short term memory loss, but when we call on a politician to act up, I only would raise a pitchfork if things in the WH get out of control and others have their own torches and pitchforks.

If men are not men enough to be nice and let her sit down at the table with them, then you gotta ask why they are not being gentlemen enough.

Rush was right this afternoon; he tapped into my personal powerlessness because of the jackasses that are in the party. I guess we gotta put ads in our cities/districts on the Wanted/Swap column, several cojones, pairing them with the right individual. Sarah has more balls than these twats.

ProudPalinFan on October 22, 2009 at 11:37 PM

From a commentor on that article:
Remember, back in 1980, when Reagan won the nomination, the country clubbers threw a hissy fit, and THEY were the one who ran the “superstar” Republican moron, John Anderson. We all know what a brilliant move that was!

Polling, three years out from an election, is meaningless.

Some more history for you:

In a Gallop poll dated 2/15/79.

Front runners for the Republican party to face incumbent Jimmy Carter:

Dole 29%

George HW Bush 27%

former Pres Ford 22%

former Calf.Gov.Reagen 9%

undecided 10% no opinion 3%

We all know how Bob Dole ran a strong campaign and went on to beat Carter in a landslide!

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Can we get some names? who are these people… the GOP? I’d like to know who they are…

CCRWM on October 22, 2009 at 11:35 PM

CCRWM:The Liberal ongoing,neverending Perception/Deception
Campaign!!

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM

What these moderates don’t understand is that the country has been pulled so far to the left with 0bama and his crew, that it is going to require some extremism to the right to get the pendulum to swing back to a right-of-center country.

cjs1943 on October 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Finally! Someone else gets it! The left is so extreme that the perception of where the middle is has been skewed. The media and the pundits have fallen for this, but most red blooded Americans know exactly where on the political scale that common sense and logic lay. THAT is why the tea parties are succeeding. We have had enough. And what is Obama’s response? To double down on the Marxism.

Go for it you Marxist scum! The straw that broke the camels back has been laid and we will take NO MORE!

csdeven on October 22, 2009 at 11:41 PM

The Buchanan/Palin comparison is nothing more than a drive-by smear job since Patrick Buchanan carries far more negative connotations now than he did when he ran for president. Buchanan probably always was an extremist but it’s only been in the last 10 or so the mainstream veneer has worn away enough to show what he’s truly about. In contrast, no position espoused by Sarah Palin can remotely be called extremist or out of the mainstream while Buchanan is, among other things, a virulent anti-semite, an apologist for and admirer of Adolf Hitler. So let Buchanan rot in the darkness of the fringe. Let him drift into the obscurity he so richly deserves.

As an aside, it amazes me he still has a profile on Townhall when a man holding his views frankly doesn’t need the respectability such a profile offers.

troyriser_gopftw on October 22, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Maybe I’m just a bit fatalistic these days, but I tend to think that the political situation in this country has progressed far enough that the republic may fail altogether (functionally if not officially) before Conservatives regain formal power. Therefore, I currently ascribe to the view that we have nothing really to lose and everything to gain by sticking to our principles. I am not interested in attracting Independents for the sake of an electoral win if it torpedoes our chances to actually effect long-term Conservative/Libertarian policies.

I’d rather go out with a bang than a whimper. I’ll support the most reliable fiscal and small-gov’t Conservative in any race. If that’s Sarah in 2012, I’ll support her regardless of whether the pundits say she can win. If it’s someone else, same deal. I will NOT support another McCain, no matter how well he polls against Obama. I’m just PRAYING the Repubs don’t nominate such a candidate and thus force me to vote third-party, because I still WANT to win, I just want to do it by sticking to my principles. Don’t let us down, GOP: you still have time to pull your heads out of the sand.

Animator Girl on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

+ eleventy-eleven

Post of the thread!

gary4205 on October 22, 2009 at 11:42 PM

IndieDogg on October 22, 2009 at 10:59 PM

To me these are the two best Palin sites…I go there for good Palin info…

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/

http://texas4palin.blogspot.com/

CCRWM on October 22, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Kiss My Pitchfork!
The conservative that gives me smaller government, lower taxes, and gets the hell out of my life wins my vote.
Oh, and cleans up and closes that damn border with alligators, wins my admiration and my vote!

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Only problem Sarah has … is Huck. Huck is the spoiler for her.

I don’t think so his Pac isn’t collecting any money and hers is…I’m curious as to who is pushing Huck hard now…the guy is doing a tv show and seems happy there and then lately it’s all about Huck and how popular he is…I’m suspicious

CCRWM on October 22, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Crazy thought of the day:
If Palin runs, I think the Libertarian party should throw a Hail Mary by holding their convention early during the GOP primaries and offering Palin their nomination. She certainly has more Libertarian leanings than Bob Barr, the 2008 nominee, and it would throw the primaries into a tizzy if her opponents knew she might be in the general election either way. Sure, she might turn it down flat. But maybe not. If she wins the GOP nod, endorse her. If not, she could run as a Libertarian, especially if the GOP establishment screws her. If she said yes, she would gain more votes than any Libertarian presidential candidate in history, and also be invited to the debates. The networks would insist upon it because of her drawing power.
The most she can do is turn you down. And if the GOP establishment tries to freeze out her and her voters, she could possibly take the fight into November, 2012.

Shotgun Messiah on October 22, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Kiss My Pitchfork!

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 11:45 PM

HornetSting: Sweet,I`m glad its not your stinger tho,hehe:)

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Drill Here Drill Now — would jump start the whole works but the Elite Politicians and the Eviro’s won’t allow it ..And Sarah and her supporters know it as well as the “Regular Americans ” as in “We The People” I.M.H.O.

wheels on October 22, 2009 at 11:51 PM

I’m thinking we can quote someone who should know.

Michael Reagan said famously that Palin was “Reagan in a dress”.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1656939.ece

PappyD61 on October 22, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Why would they want to stop her, what policy differences are there between palin , Huck and Romney. Why are these small weasly people so scared of her. I don\’t get it at all.

kangjie on October 22, 2009 at 11:56 PM

She’s the next George W. Bush because she’s basically a blank canvas for the Republican and Neocon establishment. Much different than Buchanan and his actual values.

The Dean on October 22, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Maybe I’m just a bit fatalistic these days,

Animator Girl on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Animator Girl: Heres what the Liberal Party,wants the GOP
to do!Ahem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rw5MosKRm4&feature=related

canopfor on October 22, 2009 at 11:58 PM

She’s definitely a Reaganite!

cubachi on October 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM

The second quote is from Steve Kornacki, an Obama hack. This is his column on the inauguration:

Now This Was an Inauguration

I’ve quoted the beginning and the end of his piece.

From a dramatic standpoint, Obama’s inaugural address was the masterpiece you’d expect from a man whose rise to power was predicated on his oratory….

When the ceremony was over, the Obamas escorted the Bushes to a waiting helicopter. Bush climbed the steps, turned and waved, then stepped inside and flew away. On the ground, the Obamas stood and waved, just like Gerald and Betty Ford once waved to Richard Nixon.

INC on October 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Animator Girl on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

+1 Agree with everything you wrote

Norwegian on October 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM

HOPE FOR CHANGE…..

Delete all the references to “John S. McCain” and this is a great speech.

You want to know why the Libs are trying to destroy her?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVzoY4fx1ys

PappyD61 on October 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I’m thinking we can quote someone who should know.

Michael Reagan said famously that Palin was “Reagan in a dress”.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1656939.ece

PappyD61 on October 22, 2009 at 11:51 PM

PappyD61: Awesome!!

canopfor on October 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM

The first quote is from Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen.

VandeHei helped start Politico and worked for WaPo. Allen worked for Time.

INC on October 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM

But once it’s down to her and one other candidate, the party will unite to stop her.”

Or so the writer fervently hopes. The “party” has been pretty united against her ever since last November 5 anyway. Still, there she is.

This is just a sloppy attempt at marginalization. Palin-as-kook-fringe-goddess. The analogy with Buchanan is idiotic.

ddrintn on October 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM

PappyD61 on October 22, 2009 at 11:51 PM

You’re right. I always look for bios on the writer.

INC on October 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM

The Dean – I think you are wrong — she has her own convictions — and I like her for it .

wheels on October 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM

I’m thinking we can quote someone who should know.

Michael Reagan said famously that Palin was “Reagan in a dress”.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1656939.ece

He is right of course.

Kind of sad, in a way, that the only true son of Reagan is the one he adopted. His two biological kids are trash.

wildcat84 on October 23, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Animator Girl on October 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

That’s the argument for Palin as a Barry Goldwater.

You know what? If we end up with either a Reagan or a Goldwater it’s a win.

jhffmn on October 23, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Some more history for you:

In a Gallop poll dated 2/15/79.

Front runners for the Republican party to face incumbent Jimmy Carter:

Dole 29%

George HW Bush 27%

former Pres Ford 22%

former Calf.Gov.Reagen 9%

undecided 10% no opinion 3%

We all know how Bob Dole ran a strong campaign and went on to beat Carter in a landslide!

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM

I guess if AP could have blogged back then, he would have gleefully exclaimed “Dole crushes Reagan!” or “Reagan is radioactive!”, etc, etc.

Another Gallup poll had Carter leading Reagan by 30+ points in 1978.

Deja Vu. History repeats itself.

Norwegian on October 23, 2009 at 12:06 AM

Palin never focused on cultural conservatism during the 2008 campaign, nor does she now. Her most vocal efforts have been on behalf of energy independence and national security. Her “cultural conservatism” is a narrative that the media are trying to impose at the expense of her more pressing ideas.

Palin may live according to a personal cultural conservatism, but she is enough of a libertarian to know that her values are not the charge of a believer in Constitutional freedom.

onlineanalyst on October 23, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Well all I can say that whether the GOP elite like it or not the party cannot win elections without its base. And the conservative base of the party is no longer willing to compromise its values and ideals for a party establishment who no longer represent those same ideals and values. In short if the GOP tries to foist another McCain on us in 2012 they will loose because conservatives will walk out on the party and go somewhere where their welcome and you just have to look at whats happening in the NY-23 race to realise that is true.

Hellrider on October 23, 2009 at 12:19 AM

Obama is getting exposed on the economy.

A conservative running on a commonsense, let’s-get-back-to-work, and let’s-get-the-whackos-out-of-the-executive-branch platform should be able to bury Obama.

Independents and conservative Dems will not stand with the 35% of the country that hates this country and dreams of Obama’s false utopia.

BuckeyeSam on October 23, 2009 at 12:24 AM

The liberal Republicans are terrified of Palin.

Log on October 23, 2009 at 12:26 AM

What job is Robert Bauer, Anita Dunn’s husband, going to get?

d1carter on October 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Palin? Like Buchanan? Wait, this is like Superman in Bizarro World, right?

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Sarah Palin/Liz Cheney 2012 (either order)

Knott Buyinit on October 23, 2009 at 12:33 AM

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