NYT: Obama whined about Fox News at off-the-record briefing with lefty pundits
posted at 9:43 pm on October 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New York Times, President Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about the network, according to people briefed on the conversation…
Mr. Clemente suggested that the fight with Fox was part of a larger White House strategy to marginalize critics. He cited a report in Politico about a strategy session in August at which officials discussed plans to move more aggressively against opponents.
White House officials acknowledged that Fox News did come up at that meeting, although not, they said, as a central topic. A number of issues had been added to the White House’s list of grievances by then, including the network’s heavy coverage of some of the more heavily anti-administration commentary at town-hall-style meetings on health care and Mr. Beck’s remark that Mr. Obama “has a deep-seated hatred for white people.”
Dude, Glenn Beck’s own fans don’t obsess about him this much. How do we put The One’s mind at ease here? Taxpayer-funded psychotherapy? A week off at Camp David? A security blanket, perhaps emblazoned with the “O” logo that he loves so much? I’m not being altruistic; we’ve reached the point where, purely out of self-interest, we may need to start worrying about this guy being on the red line with Medvedev, chatting about nukes, and letting his mind wander to what Sean Hannity said about him that night. What can we do to help this poor afflicted individual get the help he needs?
Update: Remember, though, he’s not losing sleep over it.
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He held the murderer and Senate slime Ted Kennedy in high esteem, which is worse. If the point is about crr6 liking slimeballs and defending repulsive criminals, for petty, political reasons, then that is a proven fact.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 12:43 AM
He’s exhibiting the kind of behavior of a man who:
1) Did not have a father.
2) Had everything in life easy, or a silver spoon. Punahoe High in Hawaii.
3) Did not ever have to do anything to get ahead. Emil’s mentoring in Illinois. Affirmative action? No transcripts? Ayers writing book?
4) Overbearing wife.
5) Manipulated by others including wife, Axe., Rahm, Soros, Jarrett, the list goes on and on.
6) Never had to be in an executive or leadership position before.
7) Reactive all the time or defensive.
I just finished Freddoso’s book on Obama and I’m reading the boss’s book on his first year. It really is falling into place now.
Am I the only one here at HotAir that actually feels sorry for him? (I still want him to fail policy-wise just like Rush said)
Sapwolf on October 23, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Thanks for that. It’s good to see someone here cares for the truth.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 12:44 AM
I came back and did some checking, and found I am mistaken.
I apologize, because I could find no evidence to back my original assertion about you supporting Polanski.
Your posts here also tell me I was wrong. I apologize.
But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to battle you in the future if we disagree.
Again, I was sorely wrong and mistaken, and I apologize to you.
Liam on October 23, 2009 at 12:45 AM
I hope so. He’s far too dangerous. And he’s too arrogant to merit any sympathy, at all. If he had a brain, then the arrogance would be okay, but he’s an arrogant imbecile, with a really nasty streak. Really nasty.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Buzz off, slug. The fact that you equate Ted Kennedy with a disgusting child-rapist like Polanski says more about your own moral bankruptcy than anything else.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Right … murderers are decent sorts … so long as they vote the right way. You, you’re a real moral compass. And the fact that Teddy loved to hear new Chappaquiddick jokes …. great guy. He could find the silver lining in anything …
You libs are really something.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Kudos for you for having the stones to apologize. Not many here would, and frankly I don’t expect ddrint to follow suit.
I accept your apology.
But in the future please don’t attribute positions to me unless I have said them myself. I think people have a tendency here to get whipped up with “troll” hatred and they attribute every bad position they can think of to me, irrespective of whether I’ve said it or not. Needless to say, it’s irritating. It’s especially irritating when the charge is something as serious as supporting a convicted child rapist.
Of course I would never expect this to preclude you from arguing with me in the future. Have a good night.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 12:53 AM
I didn’t slither away. The “bone in the nose” thing was a Wikiquote as well as Snopes. You didn’t source it. As for the slavery and James Earl Ray quotes, those were repeated by Dave Rywall, not you, on further review. Apologies, although I don’t think you leapt to Rush’s defense against those fabricated quotes. I didn’t look through all the Limbaugh/Rams threads though.
ddrintn on October 23, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Thank you for accepting my apology, and please know for sure I mean it. I was wrong, dead to rights. You’re generous, and I’m grateful.
But I have to ask, for sake of polite conversation, why do you find such problem with conservatives? We’re the same as you, we have loves and adore those who love us back. How can you be liberal?
Liam on October 23, 2009 at 12:57 AM
^ And I never said anything about your comments regarding Polanski. I couldn’t care less, although your celebration of Kennedy is another one of those funny funny things. Ummm…dissonant.
ddrintn on October 23, 2009 at 12:57 AM
On the moral scale, Kennedy’s no different. As far as I know, Polanski wasn’t responsible for a death, either.
ddrintn on October 23, 2009 at 12:59 AM
I never did repeat those quotes, not in any of the threads. Again, I say the same point I made to Liam. Don’t attribute things to me unless I actually said them. It’s not much to ask.
Your apology, although tepid, is appreciated.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Sarah Palin would agree.
ddrintn on October 23, 2009 at 1:01 AM
That’s your opinion, but just know that it’s wildly out of step with mainstream America.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Dude. Just stop.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:02 AM
I wish the Whitehouse would tell us what they think Beck has said that is untrue. They just kill the messenger and do nothing about the stuff.
They just don’t like the mirror. When you see what they are doing from Fox’s perspective (which I share) it is dang ominous! An adult personality would try to learn from their critics. Not silence the media.
petunia on October 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM
Okay, there.
Yeah. Mainstream America loves that sort of sick, twisted humor. Sure …
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM
I have to agree here. Although Ted Kennedy was a firebrand basically, his son’s quote about how “Republicans want what’s best for America too” was heartening.
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Send in the Chia Obama before it is too late.
dthorny on October 23, 2009 at 1:07 AM
I actually don’t. I have many conservative friends, and some of the people I respect the most are conservatives.
What I do have a disdain for is the particular strain of “conservatives” often found here. The “progressoverpeace” type. Hysterical. Reactionary. Manichean. They represent everything that’s wrong with American politics.
Ironically, I think sometimes I’m guilty of the same charge I’ve levied against you. Sometimes I attribute the hysteria of a number of posters here (progressoverpeace, highopes, and ddrintn to a certain degree), to every poster here, irrespective of the particular posters personal views. That’s not right.
If it’s any comfort, I have a near identical disdain for the hysterics that often populate DU and Daily Kos. I’ve railed against their cries of “fascism” against Bush, just as I’ve railed against the cries of “fascism” against Obama here.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Captain Queeg?
Bulldogger on October 23, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Agree here again. I’m appalled by the Obama Administration’s behavior with the Fox News thing, but I obviously don’t think it’s fascism. They’re just being really stupid with their strategy. Yes, Fox News is conservative, but it’s also the top cable news channel. It is part of the main media (I would use the term “mainstream media, but I’m so tired of that term.) It’s just so lame (as juvenile as that sounds) to cast them out. I don’t know that any president has ever done this. I’m certainly glad the other networks called them out on attempting to not allow Fox News to interview the pay czar.
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:14 AM
You see the problem is that Barack Obama shares so many traits and characteristics with fascists that anyone who has been paying attention must shut the eyes of his mind and keep them shut by force not to see them.
MB4 on October 23, 2009 at 1:15 AM
The emperor wears panties.
HornetSting on October 23, 2009 at 1:15 AM
It’s difficult for me to feel sorry for someone who has been elected to the highest office in the U.S.A. and yet he consistently refuses to respect the Constitution, preferring to trample all over it and has publicly stated that he thinks it is of no value. Not to mention his eagerness to trash talk the U.S. every opportunity he gets overseas. If he didn’t hate this country, I might feel sorry for him.
The other thing that I have trouble eliciting any pity for him is his overweening ego/narcissism. Designing his own “presidential seal” when he was only a candidate…the faux Greek columns at his acceptance speech…the way he tilts his nose up in the air…his arrogance and vanity make him hard to view in a sympathetic light. The guy does not think his feet stink (or anything else), and he views the rest of us as the “little people” he must make all the hard decisions for (like whether we should watch Fox news or listen to Rush Limbaugh or decide our own fates).
As long as he remains a vain pompous elitist, I can’t really find any sympathy for the man. Were he to show some true, genuine humility and awe for the position he holds, I might be tempted to do so. Haven’t seen much evidence of that in his actions. Just have heard…words…mere words…about how wonderfully humble he is.
His actions speak louder.
theotherone on October 23, 2009 at 1:16 AM
At last, common ground!
I freak about libs who have no direction. I met many ‘true’ Marxists who have a direction based on the Communist Manifesto. Those people know for what they’re aiming.
By the same token, I have a problem with conservatives who go out screaming the term ‘fag’ against gays. That’s not right, either. As a Bible thumper I believe homosexuality is a sin. But as an American, what two or more consenting adults do in private is not my business.
Do I want to see two guys kiss in public? No. Do I want to see a teen boy and his girlfriend neck in the mall? No.
Seems we have more in common than we have differences. So I often wonder why libs and cons are so at odds.
Liam on October 23, 2009 at 1:16 AM
damn. Y’all really got crr6 all bunched up! Love it!
Ampersand on October 23, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Yeah. I’d really like to see a HA poll of how many posters here think he’s a fascist. Of course those that do are the most vocal and outspoken, but they probably aren’t representative.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:17 AM
I recently heard this saying that may be more accurate: if you think you are surrounded by a-holes, then YOU are the a-hole.
rockmom on October 23, 2009 at 1:17 AM
That’s a great question.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:18 AM
What do you care? Aren’t we all just a bunch of knuckle-dragging racists anyway?
rockmom on October 23, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Too many of them are invested in believing that they’re right 110% of the time. That’s why I liked McCain. He’s conservative (pretty much), but is a centrist at heart. He shows you can still be against the public option, for example, but not act like a hooligan while opposing it.
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:19 AM
You’d be more convincing if you could ever win a debate with me.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 1:22 AM
If it sounds like Karl Marx, acts like Benito Mussolini, lies like Joe Isuzu, attracts followers eerily reminiscent of those Jim Jones attracted and stumbles like Bozo the Clown, it’s probably Barack Obama!!!!!
MB4 on October 23, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Yeah. It’s a bit off topic, but I figured “that” out the hard way when somebody called me a moron on this site for calling him out when he said that he would take glee in Obama’s eventual death. Ridiculous.
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Did anyone honestly think it would NOT come up at that meeting? He’s f*cking nuts. Typical dictator wannabe type — Chavez would be the same way.
Daggett on October 23, 2009 at 1:25 AM
Let’s see. He has government ownership of the core of the banking system, insurance companies, car companies, he’s trying to get health care and health insurance (effective control via regulation in the “exchanges”), trying to get control of the whole energy sector (and then some) via Crap&Trade (along with his thrill at ‘bankrupting the coal industry’ and other fun times), desire to build a “civilian security force as big and as well-funded as the US military”, …
That’s what fascism looks like, genius. Don’t blame me. Hold a protest against dictionaries.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Anyone who actually tries to debate you loses by default. It’s like debating a wall, if walls were capable of being smug.
crr6 on October 23, 2009 at 1:27 AM
Hey, I remember Savannah Guthrie as a reporter on Court TV back when it was really “COURT TV”, and not a pale replication.
Good for Savannah for asking the hard questions. I reckon spending time with Nancy Grace only helped her.
Intrepid on October 23, 2009 at 1:27 AM
We all want to get from A to B. The problem is how.
Cons like me, and those others here, don’t believe government is the way about it. And please make no mistake–the people here are largely of good character.
Yes, you’ve had a few hard battles but please consider that, for the most part, the people here are basically just like you and me. Every now and again we insult each other, we piss each other off. But I’ll bet you that, if you and your worst detractor here met in person, you’d share some beers together and have a nice time.
I find the nature of those posting are good, they’re people worth talking to. I had a delightful conversation last week with another con over the Impeachment Clause of the Constitution. While we didn’t come to common decision, I learned a lot and otherwise had a great discussion. If there’s any beauty to be found here, I believe that is one of many.
Just some ideas, if you please. We cons have some ideas we we think keep liberty. That’s all it is.
Liam on October 23, 2009 at 1:28 AM
ROFLMAO. A smug wall … hmmmm. That’s a new one. Too stupid for anyone else to ever have publicly uttered it. Courage, man.
progressoverpeace on October 23, 2009 at 1:29 AM
Except for Simplesimon. Calling a poster who is a soldier “nutty” really takes the cake with me. Grow Fins comes in a close second.
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:35 AM
I’d suggest Lunesta for Barry, but the extra 45 minutes of sleep would prevent him from answering the phone at 3 a.m.
Connie on October 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Yes, I know all too well. I was speaking about the cons here, who are of general good character and nature, and slandered to no end by putztrolls. The severe libs you mentioned aren’t part of what I mentioned, for their shown characters.
Liam on October 23, 2009 at 1:39 AM
Tis true. I wouldn’t call them liberals though. They’re indecent left-wing nuts. I respect liberals. Left-wing nuts…not so much. :)
NathanG on October 23, 2009 at 1:43 AM
I’m always chasing rainbows
Caststeel on October 23, 2009 at 2:27 AM
I agree with you here, but I still think on top of the diabolical behavior of this administration which is not even questionable to me, Obama exhibits all the signs of a very inexperienced manager and pouty behavior of a child.
Sapwolf on October 23, 2009 at 2:34 AM
Looks like a good place for Andrew Breitbart: The C-Span Interview.
Connie on October 23, 2009 at 2:59 AM
When you absolutely can’t beat your enemy, try to buy him off.
I do sense something is coming. Becks’s 2nd phone and what he said, the almost desperate nature of their behavior.
Something has got to be going on.
Sapwolf on October 23, 2009 at 3:19 AM
Sure is sockpuppets in here.
voxpopuli on October 23, 2009 at 3:43 AM
And, as everyone knows, that’s Bush’s fault.
mrt721 on October 23, 2009 at 3:49 AM
The former believe in the philosophy of looting/mooching/depending, the latter in the one of producing/independence. It’s really this simple.
Schadenfreude on October 23, 2009 at 3:56 AM
AP, he’s certainly losing sleep. He’s just not losing a lot of sleep.
Phoenician on October 23, 2009 at 4:22 AM
It would be nice if ANY FRIPPIN’ ONE at the White House would start moving more aggressively against TERRORISTS!
If this guy’s biggest priority is Glenn Beck then we can skip everything else and move to impeach him while filing paperwork to begin Biden’s the second Obama is retired to Chicago. We are at war but apparently the war that Obama is committed to winning is his war on Fox News. If dereliction of duty in wartime is not a High Crime please advise me what is.
Hyunchback on October 23, 2009 at 4:35 AM
Well I would say to Fox News, if your catching flak, your over the target. or some other tired cliche dippy leftists drag out when they “speak truth to power”.
If your a real news organization, a knofe in the back is better than a pat on the head!
Lonetown on October 23, 2009 at 5:17 AM
For an American to hear that their President is whining about anything is deeply upsetting. If all it takes is some bad press to set this clown off, I’d say we have a real problem if something militarily or terror wise crops up. Obama may wish for those good old days, like Kennedy had, where the press hid the family alcoholism and skirt chasing, but those days are long gone. Although the lefty networks downplayed Clinton’s skirt chasing, in the end they couldn’t hide it forever. What makes Dear Leader think he’s above criticism?
My kids acted that way at a time in their lives. I think they call it the terrible two’s, and we were able to correct their whiny selfish attitudes by the time they were three. Grow up Mr. President.
Jeff from WI on October 23, 2009 at 5:47 AM
Wow I guess we ARE in 1929 Germany after all, or perhaps Venezuela, or Communist Russia.
With the willing help of Bozo’s accomplices in the propaganda media. I’m surprised the NY Times printed this.
dogsoldier on October 23, 2009 at 6:27 AM
they’re trying to construct a hasty defense. Put into context, the Ailes/Axelrod meeting, now the Fox attack, means that someone at Fox knows something going on at the WH, and the WH knows they know.
tick tock tick tock….
ted c on October 23, 2009 at 7:20 AM
The boy kings kingdom is fallaing apart at the seams it seems.
bluegrass on October 23, 2009 at 7:23 AM
So does he ever meet with sane people or is this echo chamber of wackadoodle liberalism his version of media outreach?
highhopes on October 23, 2009 at 7:28 AM
God what an epic FAIL the Hussein white house is. He can take the story of his fathers and label them FAIL. There will be no caliphate on this great land. May God rain down his furor upon the decietful ones that come to kill his land from within.
That and he is just plain creepy.
moyeti on October 23, 2009 at 7:38 AM
That Obama should have a skull session with this flock of lefty losers seems perfectly natural. Buzzards of a feather…
Creepy carrion feast.
RandyChandler on October 23, 2009 at 7:44 AM
His poll numbers are dropping hard. He’ll be back to weekly prime time speeches saying nothing. He only knows campaigning.
Jeff from WI on October 23, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Must…now…wipe…coffee…off…keyboard…
:-)
MNHawk on October 23, 2009 at 8:01 AM
He´s not losing a LOT of sleep, but he is losing some sleep over it. LOL.
He probably watches reruns of Glenn Beck and other Fox News highlights each night before he goes to bed.
Fox should run a few advertisements: “It`s 3am in the morning, which TV channel do you think the President is watching?”
albill on October 23, 2009 at 8:02 AM
malignant narcissist MUST be loved by everyone, they cannot handle anyone not liking them. It never ends well.
ginaswo on October 23, 2009 at 8:04 AM
An ‘O’ snuggie?! Oh noes, not more President Sham Wow!
ginaswo on October 23, 2009 at 8:04 AM
When does Obama start walking around with his “blankie” and sucking his thumb?
Jeff from WI on October 23, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Hey Barry, nut up or shut up!
milwife88 on October 23, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Seriously, I think the man is paranoid. No one obsesses this much about something without being a little deranged. What’s interesting to me is that those who work with him seem to think this type of behavior is ok when clearly it is not. I wonder if he has someone test his food. Or look under the bed before he retires for the night. I wonder if his wife is a wee bit concerned. Is there a psych czar?
scalleywag on October 23, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Administration ‘death spiral’. Everybody seems to be sensing it except the ones who could possibly change the trajectory. The problem they have is that their history dictates that they only know one way to govern: thuggery, intimidation, obscurantism and lies.
The crash is going to be spectacular.
Yoop on October 23, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Waaah! Waaah! He needs his CNN binky! Mean, MEAN, people calling him names, and saying bad things about him! Everybody should be CODDLING this poor megalomaniac; For shame, FOR SHAME, if it wasn’t all TRUE!
Cybergeezer on October 23, 2009 at 8:26 AM
start?
The best part is, it’s the NYT, you know, that bunch of folks that are all about reporting the facts/news/info to keep us Jeff Q. Public all informed or somethin’. It’s the NYT reporting on Obooboo WHINING about Fox NEWS
Blacksmith8 on October 23, 2009 at 8:26 AM
So, with the rush to push and shove all his new legislation through the law making process, why does nothing take effect until after he leaves office?
Is this why his “stimulus” hasn’t worked yet?
Cybergeezer on October 23, 2009 at 8:29 AM
Yea; Time to bring the tele-prompters to all the weekend talk shows again. I can’t wait! More material for the Obamateurism of the hour!
Cybergeezer on October 23, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Forget the security blanket. This man needs a Snuggie!
eforhan on October 23, 2009 at 8:33 AM
One of Zero’s most consistent traits is “doublespeak.” What he says and what he does are mostly two different things. When he says “I’m not losing any sleep over it,” what it’s telling me is he’s losing ALOT OF SLEEP OVER THIS!
SoldiersMom on October 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM
He walks and dresses like a man, but I seriously think he has been neutered, and might be on hormone therapy to regulate his moods.
Cybergeezer on October 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Yes, you are. That narcissist wannabe dictator sued Citicorp while representing ACORN to greenmail them into approving and backing below market rate home loans to low/no/ below zero income “borrowers”. Then he moved down the food chain to denying medical aid for newborns that had the temerity to survive an attempted abortion. You’ve heard of BAIPA, I know you have. Pity/sympathy/sorrow for Akbar? Not from me. I pray for him to receive the grace of GOD’s wisdom. I pray for Allahpundit too. Yet, GOD’s will be done.
Blacksmith8 on October 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Nothing on CNN.com about this. People ought to be worried, this is the guy who makes the decisions. Oh yea, he hasn’t really made any of those, has he.
scalleywag on October 23, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I can go to the hospital; go up to the neonatal section and grab a blankie if that’s what The One wants. I can quilt, I bet I can come up with something O-like. Nah, that’d be too time consuming and he is not worth it. Or better off, just make him a Steelers fleece blanket.
ProudPalinFan on October 23, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Has to keep whining about the MEANNIES at Fox so nobody notices he’s neglecting a real war in Afghanistan.
Cybergeezer on October 23, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Walter Mitty goes to Washington.
Mojave Mark on October 23, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Ouch. That one’s gonna leave a mark.
Blacksmith8 on October 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Aw c’mon don’t write that, you know he’s a Jack-In-A-Box POTUS. Crank his head, and POW! he pulls all of us a new one.
ProudPalinFan on October 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM
MEANIES…
scalleywag on October 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM
Wow, and the so called journalists in attendance don’t have a problem with this?
Is the revolution complete? Is Fox News the last bastion of opposition?
Any doubts?
For Olbermann, Madcow, Dowd and the rest not to acknowledge and condemn this is an outrage.
FireBlogger on October 23, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Could have been worse, like saying a thong. Thank God for blurry mental visuals before enough coffee.
Yoop on October 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Yoop on October 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM
I really did not need that image.
Hey, I’ve got a great suggestion, Barry. Since you obviously can’t handle the job, resign!
kingsjester on October 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM
I’d like to take this opportunity to address impeachable offenses. After a notorious break-in and scandal “Watergate” a notable attorney, VP, and P, Gerald Ford said [my words not his] An impeachable offense is pretty much whatever the House of Representatives wants to say it is.[/my words]
To me, that means when the conservatives control the congress, Akbar and Mrs. Obooboo can pack and move. He’ll be impeached for having a crooked jib, excessive lanyards, poor diction, and big ears. I DON’T CARE.
Blacksmith8 on October 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Well, that explains the MOM jeans.
Blacksmith8 on October 23, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Not to think all the talent that may be renegotiating contracts and jump ship. Most of these were already w/FOX but look where they came from!
Bill Hemmer = CNN
Glenn Beck = CNN
Brit Hume = ABC? CBS?
John Stossel = ABC
Don Imus = NBC
Julie Banderas = I believe Univision
(her name escapes me, Latina too) but is a correspondent = Univision
It’s early, you guys can go ahead and correct some, add some. Then it will be clear to everybody one of the angles of this. NOTE: Stephanapoulous is renegotiating but for Dianne’s spot since the “anchor” that interviewed Sarah is retiring or something.
And, Obama, that happens when you demean people…they gang with each other and turn against YOU. First: Tea Partiers. Second: TV Media? It is really gonna hit the fan if and when press does, too-like Times and Newsweek.
I know the Disney song-”Once Upon A Dream”.
ProudPalinFan on October 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM
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