Libs to Reid: Public option or else

posted at 3:35 pm on October 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The netroots have served a warning to Harry Reid over health care reform.  Don’t even think about dropping a public option, they say, if you like your jobCBS News reports that liberal activists have pledged to undermine Reid’s re-election effort if the final Senate version of ObamaCare does not include government-run coverage:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is feeling the heat from his liberal colleagues to include a government-run health insurance plan, or “public option,” in the Senate health care bill.

Now, as Reid and other negotiators move closer to unveiling their health care plan, liberal advocacy groups are ratcheting up the pressure, saying they will run Reid out of Washington if he does not bring a public option to the Senate floor. With a tough re-election bid ahead of Reid next year, the liberal “Netroots” could potentially make good on their threat. Coming from a purple state, that puts Reid between a rock and a hard place — and has some local progressive activists at least somewhat worried.

One television ad pressuring Reid to support the public option is already out: The Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) is running a spot for at least five days in Las Vegas called “Is Harry Reid Strong Enough?”

The netroots tried something similar to Joe Lieberman in 2006, too.  They succeeded in getting Ned Lamont past Lieberman in the primaries, but Lieberman ran as an independent and won the general election.  That took place in deep-blue Connecticut, not in reddish-purple Nevada.  Lieberman was vulnerable on the war in his state, which is why Lamont was able to beat him in the primary, but lost the general election despite the Democratic endorsement.

If they mount a challenge to Reid’s left, it might be the best thing that ever happened — to Reid.  He has made a mess out of leading 60 Democrats in the Senate, as yesterday’s vote on the Doctor-Fix bill demonstrated amply.  In Nevada, Reid has gotten more associated with the radical-Left politics of Nancy Pelosi, which doesn’t play will in Nevada and has cost him tremendously in polling there.  Frankly, he could use a little separation from the netroots.

However, the result of a split among Democrats in Nevada will be to make a Republican win there much more likely.  Reid doesn’t have many options; if he pushes a public option, it’s likely to fail and make him look even more weak than he does now.  If he doesn’t push a public option, his base fractures even further in the state, and his base is all he has left there.


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Blue on blue! Pass the popcorn.

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM

It’s a pretty mild threat when he’s already trailing in the polls :)

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Ed: play well, not will

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

His job is already in jeopardy, regardless of a public option. In fact, it’ll severely make his ability to keep his job back in his handily red state even worse.

Enoxo on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM

I just finished a bowl. I’ll make some more. Butter or extra butter?

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

yeah, yeah, yeah/ These libtards are presenting quite the theater lately. Got Popcorn and soda!…let the show begin

hawkman on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Speaking of train wrecks…shouldn’t an incumbent Majority Leader avoid standing in front of signs that say “America Can Do Better”?

Chris_Balsz on October 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Is this what they call post-partisan?

Drained Brain on October 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Love how these pictures work out. The message behind Reid, due to the position of his head is “her do better.”

A reference to Pelosi?

WashJeff on October 22, 2009 at 3:41 PM

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Heck, let’s go for the extra butter. Algore sez the world’s gonna end in 6 years anyway.

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (CCCP)

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Great! Is this 2 out of 3 falls or a cage match? Where the heck is HornetSting with the salt?

kingsjester on October 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM

It couldn’t be happening to a better guy.
I’ll take some popcorn too.

ORconservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Blue on Blue fratricide.

More please.

MarkTheGreat on October 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM

The ONLY way this can end so that everyone saves face is this:

The ultra-lefties must present bills with the Public Option in it. It will be defeated soundly and the ultra lefties can tell their constiuents “I tried,” and everyone else can relish in the fact that they beat back the beast.

That’s where we’re going.

Oink on October 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Why do I hear a Bobby Vinton song all of a sudden?

reppac122 on October 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Would someone please pass me a box of Kleenex. ‘sniff-sniff’

JoeySlippers on October 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Suppose Reid is truly doomed politically no matter what, and he knows it. Then he may as well “go nuclear” on the ObamaCare package, right? And, for that matter, Cap and Tax and any other radical leftwing legislation? Maybe this isn’t such good news for the country after all, though I do admit I like the sound of “blue on blue.”

jwolf on October 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM

what’s funny is that both RIGHT and LEFT want this turd out of office!!!!

search4truth on October 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Poooor Harrey Reid!

pseudonominus on October 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Purge Washington of the diseases that plague it!

capejasmine on October 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM

More lib-on-lib bloodletting, please.

OhioCoastie on October 22, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Yes, libs, make Reid do your bidding or you will find someone even more liberal to run during these perilous times; what a winning strategy.

Bishop on October 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM

The MSNBC party speaks!

lorien1973 on October 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Smell ya later, Harry.

Christien on October 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM

It’s OK, Harry.

You have Barry on your side.

I hear he has a gift.

Joe Caps on October 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I just finished a bowl. I’ll make some more. Butter or extra butter?

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM

My wife won’t let me have popcorn with butter.

Make it extra butter.

MarkTheGreat on October 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM

If the dems could purge the far left nut jobs, and the republicans could purge the lefty rino’s we might get this country back on track. The 40% conservatives have a lot of wrong to right.

fourdeucer on October 22, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Come on, the Libs know that Reid is on his way out. They also know that the PO is not gonna happen. So, they’ll claim a victory in Reid’s flameout. I see the hideous hand of Pelosi in this.

What they really want is a new Majority Leader, more in the vein of Schumer. Someone who will promote their stupid agenda.

EMD on October 22, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Why do I hear a Bobby Vinton song all of a sudden?

reppac122 on October 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Bobby Vinton Blue on Blue

Holger on October 22, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Can anyone explain why the Democratic Party doesn’t tell their extremists to close their yaps – the GOP seems to be willing to do that to the ones they consider extreme – the Conservatives?

katiejane on October 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM

cannibals…

right2bright on October 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Anybody else find it ironic that here is a story about Reid feeling the heat from the netroots and up in the headline stories is a piece about Republicans feeling the heat from the Tea Party conservatives.

What’s a politician to do?

Just A Grunt on October 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Suppose Reid is truly doomed politically no matter what, and he knows it. Then he may as well “go nuclear” on the ObamaCare package, right?

jwolf on October 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM

That’s what I have been thinking for a while.

With a nice administration or lobbying job after leaving office. After all, if some of these folks are going to lose anyway…

cozmo on October 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

MarkTheGreat on October 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM
John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I have drinks too. There’s fruit punch, apple juice, grape juice, Cuban imported Rum,Russian imported Vodka, budweiser, Miller, pudding, Ruffees,etc…

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (CCCP)

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM

LOL! Assuming it was just a coincidence, I wonder if anybody there has picked up on that yet…

Probably not…I mean they are idiots.

Joe Caps on October 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

“CBS News reports that liberal activists have pledged to undermine Reid’s re-election effort…”

It’s kind of like putting a bomb in the hull of the Titanic at this point.

Cicero43 on October 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Go ahead and pass it. You have the votes.

Pass it, punk. Demonstrate the contempt for the free market you share with your Dear Leader. Next stop: ending risk-taking in business.

The Fed plan comes as the Obama administration slammed Wall Street by ordering pay cuts of an average of 50 percent and caps on benefits for top executives at companies owing the government billions of dollars from taxpayer-funded bailouts.

“I don’t think there will be any charity cases on Wall Street,” Representative Barney Frank, 69, a Democrat from Massachusetts and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee said earlier in a telephone interview. “This is a very good thing.”

Says the man that engineered the market crash that precipitated the whole discussion. And somehow he escapes all criticism, or even a mention in this story.

All the news that’s fit to twist.

spmat on October 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Blue on blue, heartache on heartache
Blue on blue now that we are through

Rocks on October 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM

what’s funny is that both RIGHT and LEFT want this turd out of office!!!!

search4truth on October 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Bipartisanship!

ICBM on October 22, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Russian imported Vodka, budweiser

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Great combination. I’ll pass on the rufees, though. I’ll be over shortly.

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

The libs are going to call the Republican Senators’ bluff on their response to the nuclear option. The Libs know that any obstruction of Senate procedure will be reported by the state run media unfavorably. Obama is already working on keeping Fox News quiet because they are the only network that would cover what has really happened.

pedestrian on October 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Numfar, do the dance of schadenfreude!

NeighborhoodCatLady on October 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM

And the headline at Politico is Conservatives roar….
Sounds like both parties are getting an ear full.

Cavuto just created a picture in my head… Reid apparently has to report to Obama this afternoon… Smacks of Star Wars to me.

I wonder if Reid will die choking… like the general or will bow to the Emperor like Vader did. Either way great picture.

(Cavuto didn’t put it that way that was all in my head)

petunia on October 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM

“…and for those of you just joining from the League Championship Series, we’ve got a hot one for you tonight. Right now, the Washington Liberals are tied with the US Citizens 50-50 late in the 4th quarter.

The Liberals with the ball…Pelosi steps under center….takes the snap…turns right down the line….looks like an option play to Reid…oh my! What a hit! Limbagh at the corner just leveled Reid in the backfield for what looks like a 1 yard loss. Hold on…there’s a flag on the play.

You know, the referree for tonights’ game, Scalia, has been doing this for a long time and the fans love him…here’s the call: “Illegal procedure, number 37, offense. Two men in motion. 5 yard penalty, repeat second down”

Thats on Leahy again! You know he gets called for illegal procedure more than anyone else in the league. And that makes 3 on this drive alone. If I were the Liberals coach I’d have to think about getting someone else in there. You just can’t have those kinds of penalties at this level of play. This is a simple, fundamental rule. I’m sure the Citizens don’t mind though…this can just kill a drive.

Time out called by the Liberal bench. Looks like Obama wants to talk it over with Pelosi…we’ll be right back after this break sponsored by ACORN, the official sponsors of the Washington Liberals……”

BobMbx on October 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Let’s not over analyze Reid’s position, o.k.? Whatever the political spectrum you wish to question…the guy’s TOAST!!

When Dailykos ‘diaries’ are calling for people in NV to vote REPUBLICAN - just to make sure this asshat goes away forever – how can it get any worse for Harry?

Oh, I guess it can indeed get worse: NV is the state with the highest unemployment rate in the country, and the 2d highest foreclosure rate….and the Wall Street Journal predicts those rates are not going to change much before 2012……..Too late for Harry.

Q. How do you say “toast” in English?

alwyr on October 22, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I love it when the liberals start eating each other…
Pass the popcorn.

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Reid is already in grave danger of losing the election.

This seems more like the far left jumping on top of a large pile of people so they can take credit for the entire tackle.

What will happen to Reid will happen with or without their involvement. However, if they’re able to trick Dems into thinking that it happened because of them, they will have a little more weight to throw around when trying to influence other Dem politicians.

JadeNYU on October 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Well Harry, you can also go back to stealing money in the private sector if you lose your job stealing money in the public sector.

So that’s the good news here.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM

This war is lost. Douchebag!

kahall on October 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Damnit! We want to be slaves of the state! Don’t you dare take that away from us.

mankai on October 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM

A severed horse’s head appears overnight in Hawwy’s bed in 5… 4… 3…

ya2daup on October 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM

John the Libertarian on October 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Eh, But what do I know about alcohol? I’m below drinking age :)

Anyway Reid doesn’t stand a chance either the situation.
Exit question from me: Would Reid be afraid of this threat and go for the public option in the final bill (Which we know he wants anyway) even if he knows he’s tanking badly in his home state?

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Why do I hear a Bobby Vinton song all of a sudden?

reppac122 on October 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Yep, I was thinking “Blue Velvet”. but then realized I really meant “Mr. Lonely”…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I hope Harry Reid fails.

Del Dolemonte on October 22, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Quite the conundrum…

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 4:16 PM

which doesn’t play will well in Nevada

Sorry, Ed. Been editing my book and couldn’t let it go. Carry on.

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Just A Grunt on October 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Even though it’s raining here, this is turning into a nice afternoon. First Patterson, and now Reid–let the games begin…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Pelosi…turns right

BobMbx on October 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM

A dead giveaway that this is fantasy league football.

ya2daup on October 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I have the whiskey…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM

I hope Harry Reid fails.

Del Dolemonte on October 22, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Too late. Been there, done that. We’re just waiting for the fall of Harry Reid.

BobMbx on October 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Question; Why isn’t Congressional pay slashed based on the same non-performance as Wall Streets? Wall Streets ratings are better!!!

Cybergeezer on October 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM

A dead giveaway that this is fantasy league football.

ya2daup on October 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Dammit! I missed that chance for inuendo.

BobMbx on October 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Question; Why isn’t Congressional pay slashed based on the same non-performance as Wall Streets? Wall Streets ratings are better!!!
Cybergeezer on October 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Report to your assigned re-education facility immediately.

BobMbx on October 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I love it when the liberals start eating each other…
Pass the popcorn.

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM

This is better than “Zombieland”…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM

He has to push the public option. He cant lose his base and Nancy. Plus isnt Reid a surrender monkey? Saying Iraq was lost. That i believe was to please progressives. Not because he likes losing a war. If he is willing to throw a war under the buss for them. What else would he do?

Greed on October 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM

The $64.00 question is how did Harry Reid ever get elected in the first place?!

J.J. Sefton on October 22, 2009 at 4:27 PM

I love it when the liberals start eating each other…
Pass the popcorn.

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM
This is better than “Zombieland”…

lovingmyUSA on October 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Everything is always better with Whiskey. :)

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Hey, you guys have it ALL wrong…Harry stated in a report out yesterday that he is planning on “VAPORIZING” his opponents…I’m sure they’re all running really scared…

/sarc off

Ltlgeneral64 on October 22, 2009 at 4:35 PM

HornetSting on October 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM

That theres some fightin’ words missy!!!

FontanaConservative on October 22, 2009 at 4:38 PM

There’s a difference between outright intra-party squabbles like we’re seeing in NY-23 and a few leftie activists making noise. And the Democrats in the Senate do seem to be getting their act together now:

After a meeting with Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Tom Carper (D-DE) discussed the status of the public plan in the Senate health care bill with reporters. Here’s what he said:”I think at the end of the day there will be a national plan probably put together not by the federal government but by a non-profit board with some seed money from the federal government that states would initially participate in because of lack of affordability. The question is should there be an opportunity for states to opt out later on and if so, within a year, within two years, within three years?”

starfleet_dude on October 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (CCCP)

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Akzed on October 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Nice catch, That one slid right by me.

Also, with ACORN under what could be the closet scrutiny in nation in Nevada in light of the DA’s pending litigation, cannot count on their subversive vote rigging efforts.

His shot across the bow of his opponents with the “vaporize” comment may only be the bravado of the desperate. The only raeson I might give this some credence is if Lowden wins the primary and possible dirt resulting from gambling interests and the mob. The Chicago-Vegas nexus is a storied one, and Team Obama and Rahm contacts that could be potential ugliness that they could easily access with their mob ties. Same could be true of Tarkanian’s dad, but holding the sons accountable for the sins of the fathers wouldn’t play as strongly.

This is worry I have for all of the ’10 races. Pols’ propensity for dallying with tarts is legendary, often those tarts work for the mob whether on the clock or not. If any of the republican candidates have strayed and froliced by way favors from lobbyists, or special interests the would be the distinct probability that the mob would be privvy to that info.

Same can be said of any compromising circumstances relating to gambling and drug indiscretions.

Obama’s oppo-research team is greatly enhanced by his Chicago ties, and can be dealt with at arms lenght( by Chicago/Illinois standards) by casual conversations with the man he has tapped to replace Burris in his old Senate seat, Alexi Gouliannis. Prior to his attaining the Illinois State Treasurer’s office,(also at Obama’s behest) Alexi’s claim to fame was “banker to the mob”. In particular with the “connected” interests operating Illinois casinos.

Over all, I beleive the 2010 elections will see some of the dirtiest politics witnessed during my lifetime, this could go three different ways. They could sabotage enough races to retain their Democratic majorities, could overeach by being to obvious in attemptint to do so, or some combination of both causing the elections to be wash. Thus restraining the tidal change that appears to be building currently.

Either way it should prove to be a popcorn & beverages event, whether it turns out to be “Mr. Smith goes to Washington or Nightmare on the Potomac, remains to be seen.

Archimedes on October 22, 2009 at 4:59 PM

One television ad pressuring Reid to support the public option is already out: The Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) is running a spot for at least five days in Las Vegas called “Is Harry Reid Strong Enough?”

Shouldn’t that be the Committee of Campaign Change Progressively (CCCP) ?

gstep58 on October 22, 2009 at 5:03 PM

A prior poster writes: “Hey, you guys have it ALL wrong…Harry stated in a report out yesterday that he is planning on “VAPORIZING” his opponents…I’m sure they’re all running really scared.”

FYI… Both of his opponents are currently running ads in NV to the effect Harry R
has VAPORIZED jobs in NV;
he has VAPORIZED the real estate market (2d highest foreclosure rate in the country – after CA);
he has VAPORIZED 401k plans for NV residents;
he has VAPORIZED any prospect for the present generation to pay off the debt he has incurred on our ‘behalf’

Harry: How do you folks in NV say “toast” in English?

alwyr on October 22, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Libs to Reid: Public option or else

If you want to see the “or else”, give me a “Heck yeah!”

HECK YEAH!

steveegg on October 22, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Ruh Roh I think this train is about to derail.

jhffmn on October 22, 2009 at 5:25 PM

This is a lesson learned many years ago by top mafia figures.

Never be the Boss.

Let some schmuck, like Harry Reid, be the Boss. He’ll get some glory, sure. But eventually, somebody is going to go after the Boss. And all Bosses eventually are overthrown..and usually feet first.

Harry, we hardly knew Ye.

DrW on October 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Good to see the Republicans are not the only ones at each other’s throats.

Terrye on October 22, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Party at my house when this a$$clown gets sent home.

dont taze me bro on October 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Do you folks really think they’re worried about losing any part of congress in 2010? No matter how bad their losses are (and such losses are mere speculation at this point) they will still have all that time between election day in early November and the swearing in of the new congress in early January to do pretty much anything they want. The odds of the republicans getting enough seats to reverse any of what they do in that time, not to mention anything they have already done, is somewhere between slim and none. Reality.

runawayyyy on October 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM

I live in Vegas and I wouldn’t vote for Reid if I had a gun to my head.
That being said, I’m having popcorn with butter and BACON!
:-)

docjohn52 on October 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM