Breaking: Palin endorses Hoffman

was using Hollywood in the generic sense. It is perhaps the best product of the film industry, then again LOTR is one of the best pieces of modern english literature.

Holger on October 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

agreed but i like WOT better than LOTR.

unseen on October 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Gallup recorded an average daily approval rating of 53 per cent for Mr Obama for the third quarter of the year, a sharp drop from the 62 per cent he recorded from April.

His current approval rating – hovering just above the level that would make re-election an uphill struggle – is close to the bottom for newly-elected president. Mr Obama entered the White House with a soaring 78 per cent approval rating.

unseen on October 22, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Republicans need more than half the independents to win an election and independents will swamp either party’s “base” every time.

crosspatch on October 22, 2009 at 11:23 PM

I disagree. liberals base is 25% so independents will swamp liberals everytime. However conservative base is 40% that means independents are only at most 35% the only way the independts swamp that base is if they all break for the liberal which in the “real world” never happens. therfore liberals need almost all the independents to vote for them and thus must lie cheat and steal elections. Conservatives on the other hand simply need 11% more of the people and those they can educate. Adn when a majority of independents break for the conservative that is what is known as a Reagan landslide.

unseen on October 22, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Conservative base is 40% of the Republican party, maybe. But not 40% of all voters. And “conservatives” aren’t going to vote in the primary, Republicans are. So “conservative” independents and Democrats won’t have a say. And in an increasing number of places these days, independents outnumber both Republicans and Democrats in registered voters. Independents are the fastest (i.e. ONLY) growing demographic in the electorate and refuse to be labeled either “Conservatve” or “Liberal”.

I don’t know the numbers in that specific district but my guess is that the independents outnumber the Republican base by a considerable margin.

crosspatch on October 22, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Gallup tends to disagree with you. According to gallup poll 40% of country identifies themselves as conservatives.

As far as the republican base is conserned more that 40% on conservatives in the neighborhood of 70-80%. In fact the great “fear” of the GOP elites in DC is that the base elects a conservatve in the primary that fails to get the crossover votes in the general election.

yes independents are a growing group AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE GOP IS DECREASING. which says that as the GOP turns more liberal conservatives are dropping out of the GOP thus the increase in independents is mostly coming from conservatives.

Also polls consitentluy list liberals as 20-25% of all voters.

So 40% of ALL voters are conservative 35% are independents with a large section of those conservative or leaning conservative and only 20-25% liberal.

even if you split the difference in the independents and say 50% of them lean democratic and 50% lean republician that’s 17.5%

therefore a real conservative would be able to get upwards of 57.5% of the vote while a real liberal or at least one that openly says they are liberal would at most be able to get 42.5% of the vote if you include leaners.

this is why dems run from the label liberal. It is why they have taken to calling themselves progressive. Why they must lie and move to the center to win elections. they need to fool another 8% of the population into thinking they are middle of the road or at the least center canidates. Whereas 1980, 1984 and 1994 shows that a true conservative can run not to the center but as his/herself and still get landslides.

the media and DC folks want the country to be center left so they can get more power by bribing voters. Yet polls tell a different story.

Obama ran as a conservative in the South. a liberal in the elite cities and a moderate in the battlegrounds. and the press never called him on it.

unseen on October 23, 2009 at 12:15 AM