Reid buying off doctors to support ObamaCare?

posted at 10:12 am on October 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Harry Reid has launched a new effort to woo doctors into supporting ObamaCare, The Hill reports this morning.  That may surprise some who watched the White House hold a Rose Garden event with scores of lab-coat-clad physicians that claimed the medical profession was foursquare in support of Barack Obama’s overhaul of the American medical industry.  Most other physicians object to the cuts in Medicare reimbursements that pay for the conversion, so Reid will dump the cuts to buy their endorsement:

The White House and Democratic leaders are offering doctors a deal: They’ll freeze cuts in Medicare payments to doctors in exchange for doctors’ support of healthcare reform.

At a meeting on Capitol Hill last week with nearly a dozen doctors groups, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said the Senate would take up separate legislation to halt scheduled Medicare cuts in doctor payments over the next 10 years. In return, Reid made it clear that he expected their support for the broader healthcare bill, according to four sources in the meeting. …

Reid also asked that doctors ease up on demands for medical malpractice reform during the upcoming healthcare debate. Democrats have traditionally resisted calls for tort reform, which trial attorneys — a reliable base group — staunchly oppose.

But the primary focus of the meeting was on Democratic plans to bring to the Senate floor a standalone bill costing nearly $250 billion that would freeze cuts in doctors’ payments mandated by a 1997 law. Without the freeze, doctors would see their Medicare payments drop by 21 percent next year and by 40 percent by 2016. The bill’s costs are not offset by tax increases or spending cuts at a time when the Obama administration estimates the federal deficit at $1.4 trillion.

As I wrote last week, the Stabenow bill would essentially turn ObamaCare into a deficit hammer.  The Baucus bill, which totals over 1500 pages, uses the cuts in Medicare reimbursements as a baseline to get its CBO scoring of deficit neutrality.  Reid deliberately hid these payment changes — which, to be fair, are entirely necessary to keep doctors in the Medicare business — to keep the CBO from delivering a damning verdict on the Senate’s version of reform.

It wasn’t too hard to figure out why, either.  Despite that little PR stunt in the Rose Garden, doctors mostly oppose ObamaCare, and for very good reasons.  More and more of them avoid Medicare patients, as the reimbursement rates are ridiculously low.  In order to actually get physicians to support the reform, the Democrats had to sweeten the pot.  Reid and the Senate did that in an underhanded, dishonest fashion.

What’s more, they ignored a real, valid method to actually reduce costs: tort reform.  That would save the government alone $54 billion over the next ten years, and the industry as a whole as much as $135 billion, according to the CBO.  Unfortunately, Reid needs his trial lawyers more than he needs the doctors, so he has casually dismissed a real reform to the system that would rein in abuse and overuse of the system.

This is a microcosm of the entire health-care reform effort from Democrats — dishonest shell games.  Let’s hope doctors are a little too smart to fall for this one.


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Grt rid of freakin’ reid,Nevada!

ohiobabe on October 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM

The pharmaceutical industry has already found out how long these promises last.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Aaaaaaargh! I no longer have words.

publiuspen on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

TheQuestion on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Yes, it’s a payoff.

And it’s disgusting.

And if this wasn’t US of Bizarrobamaland REAL journalists would be pointing it out.

Skywise on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

When the OMB declared the Baucus bill to be revenue neutral, they were in large part, relying on the payment cuts that Reid is now offering to abandon.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Medicare is bankrupt anyway, what difference does it make how bankrupt it is? I think we all know that the federal government in general and the Democats specifically don’t mind being in debt.

Cindy Munford on October 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Special Prosecutor sounds good!!

And subpoenas as well!!

canopfor on October 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Just more wink, wink, nudge, nudge from the The Do-Do Party™.

Oh Mercy on October 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

When the OMB declared the Baucus bill to be revenue neutral, they were in large part, relying on the payment cuts that Reid is now offering to abandon.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM

That pretty much sums it up. They know they can’t come up with an Obamacare bill that does everything they want without ballooning the deficit. So they’ll create additional bills to plug in the holes.

In the end though we’re all getting screwed. Worse health care, higher taxes, and even bigger deficits. I can’t wait to see this loser voted out next fall.

Doughboy on October 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM

let’s just add a few zeros to everyone’s paycheck and everything will be fine.

Akzed on October 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Who cares, Bush turned us in to mexico and this admin/congress will turn us in to zimbabwe. Hopefully the next president will be able to salvage at least an Argentina from our corpse….

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I thought the $54B savings from tort reform was per year, not over 10 years.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Does anyone get the feeling that the Dems are being too smart by half here? I\’ve also wondered whether Obama set this whole thing up so that if he needed to distance himself from this disaster, he\’d have a window to do so? But, this truly is a mess. One bill is 1500 pages, Reid is gaming the CBO, HR 3200 is a behemoth that noone can understand. They are constructing a tangled mess that noone will be able to understand and the mantra of \”we have to do something\” is just about used up. If the debate limps into mid to late November with a sales pitch no better that what they\’ve come up with so far, then passage of any of these monsters has to be in question. Add to that and actual 10% UE figure, losses in VA and NJ, a continued Afghan problem and there\’s a decent chance that this dies. The Dems can only ignore their political problems for so long.

volnation on October 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

They’ll try to pay them off, just like the $250 for the seniors “COlA adjustment” and the $8.65/hr working for healthcare by the youngsters. It’s all a payoff–it’s all a scam. They can’t use a convincing argument, so they just print some free govmint cheese to put in front of some mice…It’s an old tactic and it’ll blow up in soon-to-be-former-majority-leader Reid’s and soon-to-be-perp-walked-for-not-writing-the-book-he-said-he-wrote Obama’s faces.

ted c on October 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

The facade is cracking in my neck of the woods. My local LLL paper actually did an editorial about the tom foolerly with all this bait and switch. And they came out and said Tort reform needs to be put into any bill. I was schocked and thought I had been delivered the wrong paper.

Johnnyreb on October 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

These scum bag leftists are going to shove this down our throats no matter how painful it is for us. This totalitarian regime and its congressional stooges must be replaced as quickly as possible.

rplat on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Who cares, Bush turned us in to mexico

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM

If you think there is no difference between the US and Mexico, then you have no familiarity with either country.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM

The AMA might fall for it, but physicians who have large & small practices that rely on insurance reimbursement, won’t buy into it. It will cut their income by a substantial amt. I ask again, who was ever incentivized to work harder and more efficiently (which is something that they have said repeatedly about their Medicare cuts) when they are going to make less $$? What gets paid, gets done. Very simple.

JAM on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Does anyone get the feeling that the Dems are being too smart by half here? I\’ve also wondered whether Obama set this whole thing up so that if he needed to distance himself from this disaster, he\’d have a window to do so? But, this truly is a mess. One bill is 1500 pages, Reid is gaming the CBO, HR 3200 is a behemoth that noone can understand. They are constructing a tangled mess that noone will be able to understand and the mantra of \”we have to do something\” is just about used up. If the debate limps into mid to late November with a sales pitch no better that what they\’ve come up with so far, then passage of any of these monsters has to be in question. Add to that and actual 10% UE figure, losses in VA and NJ, a continued Afghan problem and there\’s a decent chance that this dies. The Dems can only ignore their political problems for so long.

volnation on October 20, 2009 at 1

dude; it’s a huge game of musical chairs. They’re simply continuing to play the music, yank the chairs, stiffarm the competition and keep the game going until there is only one chair left, then they’ll sit Obama on it, and promptly stop the music so he can declare “I won”

say it ain’t so.

ted c on October 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Here is an idea for Reid and the rest of the liberals who oppose tort reform. Let them get their health care from the trial lawyers and let the rest of us get our health care from the professional health care providers.

fourdeucer on October 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM

We don’t have to wonder how government health care works. We have models for it. The government will set reimbursements too low to allow for complicated procedures, doctors (specialists) with some self-respect will refuse to be “managed” like a hamburger-flipper fired for using “too much meat.” They’ll get frustrated, they’ll retire early, or find another career. Then come the immigrant doctors, who will obey their government “masters” because they’re just happy to be here. The more government takes over, the more that’s bound to happen.

RBMN on October 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM

So bribery is illegal, unless you are a politician?

darclon on October 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM

If you think there is no difference between the US and Mexico, then you have no familiarity with either country.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM

My parents are (legally) from Mexico. I go there regularly. The differences are fading fast.

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Liberals are still trying to figure out how to pass this
HealthScare,and pin it on,the Republicans!!

canopfor on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

And who on Earth would think they could trust Harry Reid??

michaelo on October 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Seems to be a running theme today of paying of a person or group for support on some issue\bill. Thank goodness I had a couple delicious Michigan apples to give me the boost of energy to keep up with this.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM

My parents are (legally) from Mexico. I go there regularly. The differences are fading fast.

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

What’s safer: Chicago southside or Tijuana?

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM

The sad truth is that the 1,502-page draft of the Senate bill makes each and every doctor, nurse and pharmacist an employee of the U.S. Government, whether they want to be or not.

jay12 on October 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM

No conservative should mention HR3200 without mentioning HR 3400.
I am so tired of news journalists allowing the dems to say conservatives or Republicans have no answers…we do, it is HR 3400.
As long as Reid in in his office, really Nevada can’t be taken serious…basically a state built on bright lights and the ability to take money from you and show you a good time.
Everyone who goes to Vegas “breaks even”, and that is what Reid is doing, convincing the doctors they will “break even”.

right2bright on October 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Doctors, if you take the check, cash it quick!

This is a group of incrementalists. They may remove these cuts today, but will simply put them back next year. They will probably stick it in a “Pray for the War Dead” Bill.

You wouldn’t vote against a “Pray for the War Dead” Bill?

barnone on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM

The AMA is just another inert “union” that represents essentially no one other than itself. This is a farce, a sham and the best of fascism. Who ever thought the “United States of America” would descend to these totalitarian depths?

rplat on October 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM

soooo this means the ‘bill’ has to be re-cast by the CBO becasuse this “saved” money if Harry buys them with it, will no longer be a ‘savings’ ipso the bill get more expensive…or will we now be treated to some with I classify as baby talk from the gubmernt.

imperator on October 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Shell game. When it’s over, everyone will be surprised to find that it had nothing to do with health or care and everything to do with political power.

spmat on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Pay off doctors so lawyers can bring more and more costly lawsuits, thus making the system ever more expensive… ahhh… that will get us to solvency, now, will it?

More States need to follow the lead of TX on tort reform. And if you really want to ‘buy plans across State lines’ then why not ask your State legislatures to help out on that as they have the power to do that. Yes, States can help each other without a mandate from the federal government, and that happens in every disaster when States and local governments send rescue workers, fire fighters and others to help out, gratis. How about undercutting this national structure and getting the States to do it, as that is perfectly allowable in the Union.

Keep your money in your States and localities, work it out at the small scale and let the federal government you don’t need any ‘help’ from it. That does take commitment to do that and not seek the easiest and worst way to do it, which puts more power in the hands of the least representative part of the Nation. This top-down stuff is way too costly, misguided and ill-fitting, just like the garments: One Size Fits All, Fits None Well.

ajacksonian on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Dingy harry is a sleazeball and a creep.

OmahaConservative on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM

None of this matters in the long run or grand scheme of things. The fact is our present debt is unsustainable and projected spending far beyond any foreseeable means to pay. Most legislative efforts these days (cap-n-tax, ending oil production) will only make it more impossible to fund anything and destroy the economy even more. So we either pay all these obligations in hyperinflated worthless dollars (the Weimar Plan) or must actually cut the federal government significantly (not politically doable for the last hundred years). At least we have money cards so we won’t have to use wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread.

RBMN on October 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Yep.

Beagle on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM

They already bought off the lawyers: Health Care Bill to Impose Huge Tax Penalty on Those Without Health Insurance, Law Degrees http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/health-care-bill-to-impose-huge-tax.html

Mervis Winter on October 20, 2009 at 10:38 AM

My parents are (legally) from Mexico. I go there regularly. The differences are fading fast.

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Then you are not very aware…The only comparison between Mexico and the U.S., everyone loves Mexican food…from the Napoleonic law, to the military, most everything is different. We have corruption (soft corruption) in our politics, but nothing like the lawlessness of Mexico. Kidnapping, drug cartel, border patrol, corruption from judges to mayors, it boggles my mind to think that someone is so naive that they think the U.S. is not much different from Mexico.

right2bright on October 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Mervis Winter on October 20, 2009 at 10:38 AM

I think you have it the other way around, the lawyers have bought off (for decades) the dems.

right2bright on October 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM

The country cannot afford it, but the Progressive Liberals don’t give a damn! Most citizens don’t want it, but the Progressive Liberals don’t give a damn! Any passed bill will not include everyone, but the Progressive Liberals don’t give a damn! It will include coverage for illegals and abortion, which most citizen don’t want, but the Progressive Liberals don’t give a damn! The Progressive Liberals are in a big rush to ram a bill through. Do you think any bill really has anything to do with health or care? Anyone with a drop of common sense knows better.
It’s a SCAM, SCAM, SCAM on every one of us!

GFW on October 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I guess I’ll ask Snowe. . . WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP THIS NEW 250B in Medicare spending NOW?!

The way she accused insurers of offering a study on the effects on premiums of these changes.

Snowe, you have debated this issue for months and months but only NOW you decide that you have to spend the 250B in Medicare that you voted to cut?!

I question the timing. I would impugn the integrity of the Senate committee the way she did insurers (who do simple math). . . but that would be downright unAmerican.

The Senate in this instance is being overtly deceitful. There’s no question this is a bad idea if they have to be so blatantly deceptive during a time that they control the house and the senate.

They don’t care what destruction they are doing as long as they can say they ‘did something’.

It is a shame that our government burdens the people it is supposed to help.

ThackerAgency on October 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM

ajacksonian on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM

As soon as states started to do that, the Fed would jump in quick and make them quit. There is a reason Obama threatened the insurance companies with that anti-trust jab.

Johnnyreb on October 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM

“The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits,” –Plutarch.

Akzed on October 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM

These scum bag leftists are going to shove this down our throats no matter how painful it is for us. This totalitarian regime and its congressional stooges must be replaced as quickly as possible.

rplat on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM

All of this is for one simple goal…install a public option that will eventually become the ONLY option. This is what they are doing. The public option is really the ONLY thing they want out of reform. The rest of the BS is just window dressing.

NJ Red on October 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM

It’s amazing that they would even attempt this. They must know that the press will let them get away with anything. . . even stealing 250B to make them (this bill) look good.

ThackerAgency on October 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I don’t know if any Republican would dare strike a dagger in the heart of “comity”, but if the GOP came down against honoring this arrangement, that would help kill the bill and Reid’s career.

Chris_Balsz on October 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Just print some more money….

PatriotRider on October 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM

xRos on October 20, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Good call, for those who can’t click on a link…look at this.

KINSTON, N.C. | Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections, but the Obama administration recently overruled the electorate and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.

From another thread.

right2bright on October 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM

I think the plan is to pass ANYthing that will so damage the system that they will then be able to “restart” with a single payer system.

The bills under consideration seem to require the insurance companies to sell insurance to anyone, and only have a small penalty for not buying insurance. Only the sick will buy the insurance, cost will spiral up, more healthy people will drop their insurance, pushing cost up, until the system collapses, and will then be “reset” to single payer.

Never let a crisis go to waste – especially if you created the crisis.

4of8 on October 20, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Using one of Obambi’s favorite words, we’re all being “bamboozled” by this Congress.

uncalheels on October 20, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Anybody smart enough to get through Med School and residency, but dumb enough to believe Harry Reid’s promise here….

Let’s just say I’d rather they not be treating me or my family.

cs89 on October 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM

These slimy Marxist politicos are trashing the people, taking their liberties and stealing their rights . . . how long are we going to let this go on?

rplat on October 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Like I’ve said before, they’ll do a stand alone bill for the docs because who’s gonna vote against them in such a targeted vote?

Then they’ll bring up a stand alone bill reversing the half trillion in cuts made in the Baucus bill to Medicare because…

Who’s gonna vote against the seniors?

This crap, ObamaCare, is going to cost at least twice as much as CBO has scored it. Minimum.

TXUS on October 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM

What I’m gearing up for now…and prepping my popcorn machine for…is a dog fight between Reid and Baucus. Because what Reid basically did with that bribe, in my opinion, is efficiently KNEECAP ol’ Baucus and his touted “CBO deficit neutral” statement. So, how is Baucus going to come and swing back? :-D *rubs his hands in glee* Can’t wait for the infighting to begin!

Highlar on October 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM

My parents are (legally) from Mexico. I go there regularly. The differences are fading fast.

abobo on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

My wife is from Mexico, I go there reguraly. Your nuts.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM

What’s safer: Chicago southside or Tijuana?

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Try Juarez. More murders there in a year, than in the entire US.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM

“The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits,” –Plutarch.
Akzed on October 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM

“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it.” Frederic Bastiat

The sad thing is that there are a number of people in this country that think that it’s perfectly okay to take from the government.
They either don’t know or don’t care where this largess comes from and they either don’t know or don’t care that it will destroy the country.

Chainsaw56 on October 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Politics=bribery Why are we surprised?

archer52 on October 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Try Juarez. More murders there in a year, than in the entire US.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Wow! Unfortunately that does will give me comfort when I am on the southside of Chicago. At least winter is coming. Nothing like sub-freezing temperatures to make things safer.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM

As a General Surgeon, I can honestly say I have seen the enemy and WE are them. It is sickening beyond words that the AMA and some of my colleagues would sell their sould and the soul of this country for such a pittance.

As per tort reform, I have always said they should take their own ruptured appendices out. F- them………

Paul Revere on October 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM

PIMF………….souls, not sould

Paul Revere on October 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I wonder if Dingy Harry has told the loons that favor this boondoogle that it is not free. They will have to pay too.

Dire Straits on October 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

TheQuestion on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I am too. This is pretty clumsy compared to the usual skill the filthy lying coward in the White House and his party usually exhibit when it comes to bribery.

highhopes on October 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Heh.

I wonder how long it will take for those doctors to notice that Teh One’s face is on those dollars instead of GW’s?

It’s wonderful to have unfettered control of the printing presses, eh Harry?

CPT. Charles on October 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Chicago politics at it’s finest. “Do this little thing for me (or I’ll break your kneecaps).”

snopercod on October 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I am too. This is pretty clumsy compared to the usual skill the filthy lying coward in the White House and his party usually exhibit when it comes to bribery.
highhopes on October 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Yes it doesn’t really match up to the high standards of deceit we’ve come to know and love from the National Socialist Democrat Party.

They must be slipping.

Insert witty screen name here on October 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM

soooo this means the ‘bill’ has to be re-cast by the CBO becasuse this “saved” money if Harry buys them with it, will no longer be a ’savings’ ipso the bill get more expensive…or will we now be treated to some with I classify as baby talk from the gubmernt.

imperator on October 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM

No, what’s going to happen is that the filthy lying coward is going to constantly quote that one CBO report as proof that the bill is deficit neutral despite all the pork being larded on after the vote. The whole mess will be rammed through both houses of Congress in a late-night partisan manner before the public is aware of the details.

Mark my words. Some morning in November you will wake up to the news that Congress has passed “landmark legislation” and the filthy lying coward will be signing the bill in a Rose Garden ceremony later in the morning. Only then will these rat bastard traitors let us in on the details of the law.

highhopes on October 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Highlar on October 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Yes, they are trying to have it both ways. They got the CBO scoring they wanted, now they have to undo the damage to the deficit neutral canard. What a tangled web we weave,…. Hopefully the majority of docs won’t bite.

a capella on October 20, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Doctors are apparently just bit players in this whole deal to the Democrats. Who is going to deliver all this fabulous, low-cost health care to all these people who aren’t getting it now, while they get sued to death and the government refuses to pay them what their services are worth?

rockmom on October 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Let’s have the pricetag for this. The thing is, this is just the beginning of the side deals that will ultimately turn this into the most gigantic boondoggle in the history of the country, the stupidity of which will supercede even the stimulus package.

drjohn on October 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Reid is buying off more than just the doctors.

“We cut special favors for special states, not based on need or requirements but on the influence of the individual senator,” said Arizona Republican John McCain.

Skandia Recluse on October 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM

How, precisely do you measure “doctors’ support”? The AMA speaks for a small subgroup, or the wardrobe exercise at the WH would have been sufficient. Are all docs supposed to text “I support the WH” to some special number?

obladioblada on October 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM

The White House and Democratic leaders are offering doctors a deal: They’ll freeze cuts in Medicare payments to doctors in exchange for doctors’ support of healthcare reform.

All I know is that anyone who is stupid enough to trust this White House is NOT someone I would ever go to for medical care. After all we’ve been through, in just the last eight months, it takes the most moronic of individuals to not know that this White House is the most despicable collection of liars and idiots ever assembled on Pennsylvania Avenue and that they can’t be trusted for anything.

This is just on top of everything else, but for anyone with a brain, when this White House makes a promise, that should be a pretty simple indication that they are going to do the opposite, as they seem to get a sick thrill out of breaking promises – just for the hell of it.

progressoverpeace on October 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM

The bill, while onerous and a huge cluster fark is only the beginning. Wait until the little socialist minions working in the various governmental departments start writing the “rule-making” to implement the law. This is where a huge amount of cost comes into play and blows this bill up to 10X its original size.

hip shot on October 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Those aren’t normal doctors, those are radical leftist doctors. Remember, throughout history every murderous commie and fascist regime had doctors supporting it. From Hitler, to Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Castro, Serbia, etc.

Blake on October 20, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Note to doctors:

“An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last.” …Winston Churchill

BrianA on October 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Anybody smart enough to get through Med School and residency, but dumb enough to believe Harry Reid’s promise here….

Let’s just say I’d rather they not be treating me or my family.

cs89 on October 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM

They would have to be pretty dim. But don’t forget, someone has to graduate last in his medical school class.

In the past, the govt. has “frozen” medicare cuts, only to 1 or 2 years later double the cuts. They have also actually gone back to hospitals and providers and taken back money ALREADY paid to them after making cuts.

This would be like buying a TV set, and 2 years later deciding you didn’t want to spend that much, so you demand a few hundred dollars back from the store you bought it from. And if they DON’T pay it back, they can have their shop closed down and get thrown into jail.

They also constantly review long-ago made and paid for claims looking for every dotted “i” and every crossed “t” to look for a reason to demand money to be returned to them after the fact.

A promise like this should be considered as worthless as the paper it won’t even be written on.

DrAllecon on October 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM

And this is the reason there is fraud in the health care industry. Now, if the Socialist Congress thinks they are going to pass ObamaCare, by in part, touting ‘saved money’ by “eliminating fraud”, here’s the proof that that is A LIE!
Any doctor who accepts the bribes of Reid, should have their names posted publicly, so we know who they are!

hopefloats on October 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Trial Lawyers Lobby is in the red to the tune of 6.2 million. Lawyers have no money to lobby against tort reform!!
They need Reid to stop it. We can stop them and do something. Start contacting your Senators and demand tort reform.

elclynn on October 20, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Reid is a dirtbag and has no regard for the Constitution or the people. Like any gangster you just need to keep after him until you get enough on him to bring him down.

rplat on October 20, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Any doctor who accepts the bribes of Reid, should have their names posted publicly, so we know who they are!

If you do work for someone at an agreed-upon fee, and they threaten to cut your pay by 21%, is them agreeing to pay you what you originally agreed to a bribe?

Please remember that this bill is not agreeing to pay doctors more for seeing Medicare patients, it’s agreeing to not pay them 21% less.

Many doctors have already given up seeing Medicare patients because of the low reimbursement rates. Cutting those rates by an additional 21% would mean many doctors could no longer afford to care for Medicare patients, and would have to drop out of the program. Most doctors don’t want to see fewer patients or help fewer people, they just can’t afford to see them at a loss, financially, and stay in business.

EyeSurgeon on October 20, 2009 at 2:45 PM

The ability of the democrats to keep a promise is measured is picoseconds. If the doctors buy into this they deserve what will happen to them.

chemman on October 20, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Notice how it is easier than ever these days to use the words “Reid” and “pondscum” in the same sentence?

pilamaye on October 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM

It has always been part of their plan. Remember the verum serum video with Jacob Hacker from the Tides Foundation?
Here is what he says:

“Reformers shouldn’t make the same mistake this time around. Freed from the strictures of short-term budget balance, they can instead do what all other countries did when creating their national health programs: buy off the opposition. Britain’s health minister was once asked how he had gotten doctors on board for the National Health Service. His reply: “I stuffed their mouths with gold.” Money may not change everything, but it does make it easier to win friends, or at least divide and placate them.

http://ideas.berkeleylawblogs.org/2009/01/13/a-healthy-economy-medicine-is-the-best-stimulus/

njpat on October 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM

I’ve always considred it a good thing for the States to do as they want to and force the federal government to respond to stop it: that takes the mask off. Plus States can refuse money… always a fun thing to see, if you can get some Governors elected who have some guts.

ajacksonian on October 20, 2009 at 8:55 PM