Pelosi “very excited” that House ObamaCare bills will cost slightly less than $900 billion
posted at 10:10 pm on October 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Tuesday new estimates showed a healthcare overhaul drafted by Democrats would reduce the U.S. budget deficit over 10 years and cost less than $900 billion.
The preliminary estimates from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office moved Democratic leaders closer to finishing a merger of three separate healthcare reform bills into one for debate on the House floor…
“We’re very excited by the CBO scores,” she said, predicting House Democratic leaders would finish their work on the merger soon…
“We’re in an excellent place with the cost, given the information that we have,” she said.
“We’re in an excellent place with the cost” will make for a sweet punchline in next year’s GOP attack ads, every last one of which will be casting Madam Speaker in the role of boogeyman. (In fact, it’s already begun.) Meanwhile, Kevin Hassett floats a dark possibility: Is The One’s health-care obsession the real reason he’s delaying a decision on Afghanistan?
The final supplement to the budget under former President George W. Bush included $180 billion, covering the surge in Iraq as well as an additional 30,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. Assuming the per-troop costs are similar, the surge in Afghanistan will likely cost about $100 billion annually.
It is difficult to say how long such an action would take, but at that price, a five-year stay for the additional battalions would cost almost $500 billion, on top of the cost of the forces already on the ground. The final cost would probably be somewhere in between those two numbers…
The sad fact is, the delay of the decision on Afghanistan makes no sense unless it is part of a politically calculated plan to delay revelation of the true costs of the war until after the health-care legislation has been passed.
Intriguing, but the problem with that theory is that he’s already taking intense heat for leaving troops in the field to twist. Is he really going to hold off on making a decision until Christmas, which is when some congressmen think the final vote on ObamaCare may come? I can’t believe it. His numbers on Afghanistan are already tanking. He can’t afford that kind of delay.
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These people have got to go.
Dave R. on October 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM
National suicide IS exciting
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Believe it. He’s betting Americans will have short memories.
Patrick Ishmael on October 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM
“He can’t afford that kind of delay”, but if nothing else, we have seen that he doesn’t care what he can’t afford. In fact, “can’t afford” seems to be his stimulant.
ORconservative on October 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I’m actually horny at the thought of destroying the US economy even more
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM
It is something.
Not sure I’d go with the word exciting though liberals would agree with that.
highhopes on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 PM
It’ll work cause people won’t pay attention.
10 years seems like a long time, until 15 years have passed.
What will this cost then? Will anyone have the stomach to cut costs or “deny basic human rights to our citizens.” Yeah, I don’t think so either.
Filthy punting communists.
Aquateen Hungerforce on October 20, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Yo Nan,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t that work out to about THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS APIECE FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN THE UNITED STATES?
Just askin’……………
bannedbyhuffpo on October 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM
So excited I could hurl.
kingsjester on October 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM
A Trillion here… a Trillion there, pretty soon we are starting to talk about real money.
But hey, when you can print your own….
YYYYYYEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA…… KEEP THOSE PRESSES RUNNING!!!
Seven Percent Solution on October 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Pelosi needs to charged 1 billion dollars and jail time with Roman the Rapist for treason and sedition against the Constitution of the United States.Additionally she needs to be charged an extra 10 dollars for causing emotional distress to zombies.
nyx on October 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM
This is what America gets when it elects a lying,arrogant,failed community organizer as POTUS:
A Master at Sleight of Hand.
This guy makes Pinocchio look like a novice. One has to really apply oneself to lob seven (7) fabrications into 120 seconds and about 20 seconds is taken up with applause. Can you hear me now ??????
http://www.theospark.net/2009/09/video-7-lies-in-under-2-minutes.html
And the idiot liberal sheep all line up and chant
“Yes We Can!!”.
Baxter Greene on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM
These people?
racist!!!!!!!!!!!
Aquateen Hungerforce on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Somehow the words “Pelosi” and “very excited” don’t sit well together.
MB4 on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Pelosi “very excited”
Somehow the words “Pelosi” and “very excited” don’t sit well together.
MB4 on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Now I am gonna hurl.
kingsjester on October 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Gawd!!!
How on earth did we ever turn over the reins of government to that flighty multi-millionaire ditzy broad from the Bay area?
WE’RE DOOOMED!!!!
bannedbyhuffpo on October 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Very excited?
Oh
Sorry
I couldn’t tell
With your face stuck in the same position all the time.
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Huffington Post is quite amazing. Quit linking there. I just learned Representative Grayson (the “Republicans want you to just die”) has “calculated the number of people who will die every day until single payor is passed*.” Where is this all important story?
*122.
Marcus on October 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Well at least we can be thankful that the economy is perking away. Increased tax revenues will help in reducing the deficit, making Obamacare all that more affordable.
Oh wait.
fogw on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Just a gut feeling but by the latest chatter from Reid/Nan the Health Care Bill is in Dire Straits.
Dire Straits on October 20, 2009 at 10:25 PM
I have an idea! If we can reduce the deficit by spending $900 billion on a health care bill, just think of how much more we could reduce the deficit if we spent $10 trillion dollars in the bill, instead!
Daggett on October 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM
The world may be ugly, but each man must do what he must
Give in Queen Pelosi, in a year you will be botox dust
Now come let our Lady of Justice possess you
In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed
She will tingle your spine
As she captures your heart and your head
PercyB on October 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Does cost really matter when you’re paying with Monopoly money?
flyfisher on October 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM
After single payor passes that number increases.
Aviator on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM
That’s what the program will probably cost in 10 years anyway. By that time we might be eating dollars though.
nyx on October 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Sheer madness. I have run out of words to register my disgust that that unaccountable, ridiculous woman sits in the position of power that she does.
Edouard on October 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM
The old Queen will be history
Hail her new Majesty!
Madame Guillotine!
PercyB on October 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM
The truly sad thing is that those legal residents of the US who do not currently have “insurance” could obtain insurance on a much smaller scale program that would cost a whole lot less that $900 billion, a lot less, admitting for the present there being a government role in providing health insurance.
And in the end there will still be millions of Americans without adequate insurance by their own choice or life-styles under the current Congressional proposal once it is enacted.
These days, common sense seems to be a very uncommon virtue.
But, it is only money, right? And everybody gets to feel good about passing a law. Simply wonderful. /
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Isn’t this the same liberal leader that came on national television not once but twice concerning the Health care bill
claiming “ I have the votes”.
Just another “slow Biden” moment from the “smart ones”.
Baxter Greene on October 20, 2009 at 10:32 PM
One of these, that tightly-stretched skin on Pelosi is going to snap, and we will be there to see it.
ICBM on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
And for San Fran Nan…”Palomino!!! Dammit, Palomino, already!!!”
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
900 billion here, 900 billion there. pretty soon Nancy will be talking about real money here.
As for the war, Obama had already outspent Bush’s war expenditures before he was in office in 6 months, what does he care about the cost?
Terrye on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
How about getting really excited and not spending $900 billion in the first place?
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
How about rich Nancy has to give all her and her partners assets to government.
PrezHussein on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Hold it in.
Patrick S on October 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM
No kidding, for that kind of money Nancy could pay their damn premiums for them.
Terrye on October 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM
zing
nyx on October 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM
And Medicare was only going to cost a low number, and exponentially quadrupled in price to finally end up bankrupt.
Enoxo on October 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM
….A gentle breeze, BB. Let me give you a cold shower…Nancy P. with the taxpayer’s checkbook.
HornetSting on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Why are we spending hundreds of billions of dollars to only cover 5 million people who currently are not covered for whatever reason?
Enoxo on October 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM
You need to get right over here and wash this cat. The one that was on my lap. The one who is now soaked with rum.
katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2009 at 10:38 PM
This is the national nightmare we were all warned about.
…and Pelosi is just a nightmare.
HAnthonyWayne on October 20, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Now that’s a great idea! Pay the people’s premiums for them, and get those without care a private policy. Change I can believe in!
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 10:38 PM
we can all take a nice bath.
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM
I am now sick and tired of this liberal left wing airhead broad Pelosi!
There is no such thing as less than $900 Billion, madam! I highly doubt anyone, including you, can truly imagine what $900 Billion looks like! No one on this planet has that much money, so where the hell does Pelosi get off getting all excited about this? This is a debt that will take generations to pay, Pelosi! GENERATIONS!
I have now had enough of the idiocy that is happening in Washington! This woman and her Democratic ilk have to be stopped and they have to be stopped now!
pilamaye on October 20, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Why not use the screen cap with her eyes bugging out? It’s been far too long, Allah. That should be the go-to picture every time this hag makes news.
Come to think of it, that’s the shot they need to use on the ad. Make it black and white and slowly bring the picture in from the background until it takes up the whole screen. That’ll give the general public the appropriate amount of fear.
stldave on October 20, 2009 at 10:41 PM
LMAO!
HornetSting on October 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM
She has to stay away from sharp objects.
Her skin is pulled so tight that if she got a scratch, her head would pop like a balloon.
Daggett on October 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM
The real danger of Reid/Nan is it is like turning a group of 6 year olds loose on a nuclear sub… “what does this button do?” NOOOOO….
Dire Straits on October 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I am all for redistribution of wealth.
I will be glad when Pelosi hands over her billions to the government to fund her Healthcare monstrosity.
A little help makes the world go round.
nyx on October 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM
$700 Billion on TARP, $800 Billion on the Stimulus, $900 Billion on ObamaCare??? How are these people proud of this?
El_Terrible on October 20, 2009 at 10:46 PM
we can all take a nice bath.
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM
katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Do any of these Congress critters, and those who worship them, understand that our current GNP is about $14 trillion, and in decline…and the Obama Administration and Congress since January have essentially committed the United States to well over $10 trillion in expenditures or guarantees?
Paying for all of this, how to pay for this, all of this…that seems to be one of those pesky important items that appears to be lacking.
Forget government budgets…we are mortgaging almost the entire “worth” of all production, all property, all assets held privately and by government, all of it…to do what?
Other than have my great-grand kids sit back and wonder as they scrabble amongst the millions of homeless for a new candle or try to find something to eat what in hell happened in what used to be America in those dark days of 2009-2013, what are we allowing to be done to all of us for the next several generations and beyond?
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Will someone just put this b!tch in a closet somewhere and get it over with??
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Kitty’s like Momma!
HornetSting on October 20, 2009 at 10:56 PM
ooh
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Afford? How sad is it that this pathetic president is even looking at numbers when our troops are hanging their lives on the line. This is an American disgrace.
Rovin on October 20, 2009 at 10:57 PM
A little rum and that drunk kitty thinks she is a cougar…better watch out for yerself, bb. :-)
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Has anybody thought through some of the unintended consequences of these monstrosity bills? For example, the edict that insurance companies cannot deny pre-existing conditions and that Baucus plan that calls for penalties for people without insurance that cost less than health insurance. So, if I’m a cynical and/or someone looking out for my own self interest, I don’t take out health insurance and pay the fines if they are implemented. Then, when diagnosed with a condition requiring expensive care, immediately rush out to my closest insurance agent and purchase health insurance to cover my illness. I will have to be covered because the law requires that pre-existing conditions be covered.
Show of hands, how many people think this was deliberate?
AZfederalist on October 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Folks have been gaming Medicare since it first started. This “plan” will be gamed from the day the thing is signed into law, costing all of us billions and billions more…none of it “foreseen” by the folks who are writing this travesty.
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I wonder how MSM would report this if BOOOOOSSSH was still POTOS and had the large majorities in Congress that Barry “Cokehead” Sotero has….
“Inept Bush Can’t Rally Own Party To Signature Legislation”
“Moderate Republicans Reject Bush ‘Mandate’”
“Even With Huge Majorities Bush Ineffective”
omnipotent on October 20, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I home schooled her.
A little rum and that drunk kitty thinks she is a cougar…better watch out for yerself, bb. :-)
coldwarrior on October 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM
katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM
There is something especially repugnant about joining the phrase “very excited”
with the name “Nancy Pelosi”. It fair gives one the shivers, it does.
Dhuka on October 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM
It’s almost Matthewsesque.
ICBM on October 20, 2009 at 11:17 PM
+1
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2009 at 11:17 PM
i had another rendezvous with my cougar this weekend
sober, too!
can you believe it?!?!
blatantblue on October 20, 2009 at 11:24 PM
You mean SHE was sober??? No, no I don’t believe it.
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Look closly as they continue to cook the books…
Bet they did what the Senate did, and started Taxes early and benefits later…
Romeo13 on October 20, 2009 at 11:38 PM
According to these numbers, and they way the idiots in DC do math they still have 4 trillion dollars to spend so it’s all good.
I can’t see why everyone is worring. The recession is over says zero and the economy is back on track.
/sarc
Brat4life on October 20, 2009 at 11:38 PM
/raises hand…
Yep… it makes it impossible for an Insurance company to operate.
Add in the “tax” from Doctors having to pass on costs of lower payments for Medicare???
Add in higher costs for Medical Equipment due to added taxes????
Trifecta of Fail… for Insurance companies, which will then force a Gov run single payer system. (due to the crises when it fails).
Romeo13 on October 20, 2009 at 11:42 PM
lovingmyUSA on October 20, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Nailed it.
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Again, you keep assuming these people are smart…they are brain-dead!
The left-media (and the toothless, lobotomy patients who watch it and believe it) are the only thing between these intellectual half-wits and oblivion.
Yes, Obama does believe it…he is the first victim of Hopenchange! He believes his own propaganda.
AUINSC on October 20, 2009 at 11:56 PM
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
lovingmyUSA on October 21, 2009 at 12:07 AM
HOLY CRAP–LOOK WHAT I JUST FOUND!!!
(Sorry it’s OT)
Litmus Test for Enlistment? [Mark Krikorian]
Apparently, the House version of the defense funding bill “bars enlistment of anyone who has been an active participant in an extremist group,” according to today’s Navy Times. Obviously, the military already excludes dangerous radicals of various sorts through regulation, and should continue to do so, but the point of the bill is to remove discretion by cementing it in legislation and also to delegitimize non-preferred political views (like the DHS report on us dangerous extremists). The article continues:
This would include any groups advocating discrimination based on race, sex, creed, religion or national origin, especially if the group advocates to the use of violence — something recruiters will have to screen for if the bill becomes law.
The violence part is obvious — if you advocate violent change you are by definition an enemy of the Constitution. But what if you just think women shouldn’t be in the military? Or were in a Minuteman chapter armed only with a walkie-talkie but considered a “vigilante” by the people in power in Washington? And how long do you think it will be before “sexual orientation” is added to the list of protected classes?
And the original version of the provision was more sweeping, suggesting what its proponents really had in mind:
As initially passed by the House of Representatives earlier this year, the provision of the defense bill would have prohibited recruitment or retention of anyone associated with an extremist group, whether or not they were an active participant.
The House-passed plan called for the immediate discharge of anyone associated with a hate group. For current service members, the House plan had an exception from immediate discharge if a person had previously renounced their membership in a hate group. No exceptions were allowed for recruits who had been associated with hate groups, so even if they had renounced their membership they would have been barred from enlisting. . . .
As evidence of association with a hate group, the earlier House proposal would have accepted tattoos, e-mail or posting online, written material or attendance at meetings. Those evidence rules are dropped from the final bill, leaving it up to the Defense Department to decide how it will determine association with a group and how it will decide what constitutes “active participation.”
So, posting comments at a web site would get you barred from military service? And what do you want to bet the Southern Poverty Law Center would be hired to consult on how to identify “hate groups”?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjgxNzM4Y2U3NjM0NGFkOTkzMjUyZjQwMzg1MzQ2MzA=
lovingmyUSA on October 21, 2009 at 12:14 AM
The Constitution clearly states that one of the roles of the Federal government is national security. Health care reform and government take-over is not mandated by the Constitution. So it should be a no-brainer where the money is to be spent. Our troops are waiting, Mr. President.
Mallard T. Drake on October 21, 2009 at 1:04 AM
Nancy’s not really excited…she just can’t get that Botox-created look off her face!!!
landlines on October 21, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Once the Health bill passes, Barry will hoist a white flag in Afghanistan. He couldn’t give a sh*t about the service men and women left there.
pedestrian on October 21, 2009 at 2:24 AM
What a load of cr*p. If you believe these lying cheats, then you’re one of the stupid people that bought Obama’s BS and voted for him.
“How’s that “hope and change” working for ya”.
mm mmm mmm, Barack Hussein Obama, mmm mmm mmm
And, to all you limp-wristed, “peace-loving” countries that have depended on the leader of the free world to save your arses when the tyrants were at your door, you’ll have to look to BiBi now. He’s the only one left with any guts! Although, considering the trash talk directed to Israel by you in the past, I wouldn’t count on them either. You’re on your own morons!
As for our troops, you have no “Commander in Chief”. God bless you all!
hopefloats on October 21, 2009 at 3:48 AM
The Congress will try to get the Health Scam rammed in November or Decemember. Kind of brings a new meaning to Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas.
You are so right pedestrian. He could care less about the brave people who are defending us. The President only cares about passing all of his Liberal bills, gelding the U.S., and getting more votes so his ilk can stay if office.
yoda on October 21, 2009 at 6:20 AM
I agree with the posters who see all this chatter as desperation. This bill is dying. With each passing day moe and more people are against it.
dogsoldier on October 21, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Gee, Nance, I’m “very excited,” too. I think that I will begin making payments on a new car right now, so that I can pick it up from the dealership four years from now.
onlineanalyst on October 21, 2009 at 6:46 AM
As Rush said the other day, we won’t straighten out the economic problems until we straighten out our moral problems. The real evil here is the throwing away of our founding father’s construct in favor of an inexperienced street organizer’s Marxist utopia. The man is is favor of slaughtering innocent babies fully free from the womb. Do we really think he cares about any of us? How unbelievably disfunctional our system of governing is. We are heading for a major conflict or crash within our nation, because we have turned from the world’s model of freedom into a morally corrupt laughingstock, socialist wanabee failure. Suicide is a good word.
Don L on October 21, 2009 at 6:55 AM
I just heard Rendell on Fox and Friends and he told a big fat lie. He said that the feds need to get involved because insurance companies refuse to sell insurance in several states. He said that PA begged United Health to come into PA and they refused. I just do not believe that. No company is going to refuse to do business anywhere they think they can make a dollar. The states regulate that and here is a Democratic Governor lying his behind off.
Terrye on October 21, 2009 at 7:26 AM
What is wrong with all you miracle deficit deniers! OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
It’s all about the O - gasm.
Anybody else have the GPS for the headwaters of S#!t Creek? I’d at least want to know where I’m gonna end up.
dissent555 on October 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM
This is further evidence that Pelosi’ brain is hardwired to her a$$ so that every time she opens her mouth she spouts bull$hit.
RandyChandler on October 21, 2009 at 7:31 AM
wouldn’t put it pass him…the ditherer-in-chief
cmsinaz on October 21, 2009 at 7:36 AM
When you are already out of control, floor it, have a happy ending.
tarpon on October 21, 2009 at 7:55 AM
They just don’t get it. Under $900 billion is still too high. The American people are willing to sacrifice some of their own comforts so that their children actually have a future America. All of this spending only leads to the crumbling of America. This bill is not reform, it is just more spending. More spending that future generations cannot afford.
texasconserv on October 21, 2009 at 7:58 AM
Believe it. On Jan 1, 2010 we will have a robust public option plan AND the announcement that we are not sending more troops to Afghanistan.
Elections have consequences.
tatersalad on October 21, 2009 at 8:04 AM
It’s great unless you count the additional $250 billion in Medicare reimbursement to docs.
Nothing the government ever does comes in on cost projection.
Nothing.
drjohn on October 21, 2009 at 8:16 AM
So, $900 billion is the new threshold for expensive these days. Stimulus bill was set at $900 bill then chopped back to $787 billion and we’re supposed to think that’s a deal. This is purely adjusting expectations. They set this $900 billion mark to let people gasp at it for a few weeks, then bring their price point just under that and make us think that we’re getting a steal.
I fundamentally reject this stupid dollar game these fools are playing. No matter what the hell they say it is, hell, Obama can go say “not a dime above $900 billion” and it’ll still go over 900 billion.
They are lying, they are stealing and they cannot produce nor deliver anything that they say they are trying to produce nor deliver. It is a shocking display of dishonesty on the part of the US Congress and the White House.
ted c on October 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Actual retail price $899 billion. Nancy Pelosi, you win!
Now it’s off to the Showcase Showdown where you can win….A NEW CAR!!!!
Pcoop on October 21, 2009 at 8:42 AM
What does this corrupt, incompetent, lying dingbat know about cost?
Hubby pays for her $20,000 purses and doesn’t every woman have a $100,000 facelift every few years?
Worst Speaker of the House ever, it’s not even close. Just another in a long list of disgraces the Democrat Party has visited upon this nation.
NoDonkey on October 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM
Good news!!!! The cancer hasn’t spread as far as we thought!!! You’ll live (and suffer) a little longer!!!
Cybergeezer on October 21, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Two current events tell it all about California!
#1 the state is broke and they can’t accept the changes needed to change it all
#2 34% of Californians approve of Pelosi’s job performance.
The left coast is no longer the golden coast.
Also consider Boxer, Feinstein, Waxman, Maxine
Everyone please pray for these deprived state and its idiots
bluegrass on October 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Michele Bachmann just told Laura Ingraham we need to call both of our senators every day, Mon-Fri and tell them to vote against health care and to permanently de-fund ACORN. She re-emphasized the importance of calling every day.
OmahaConservative on October 21, 2009 at 10:03 AM
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