CNN, Rasmussen, Harris polls: Public disagrees with Obama on pretty much everything

posted at 5:22 pm on October 20, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Ace. Honestly, as encouraging as this is, some of the data here seems simply too grim to be true. Start with the most credible, CNN:

For the first time since he took over in the White House, Americans don’t see eye to eye with President Barack Obama on the important issues, according to a new national poll. But the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey does indicate that a majority approve of how Obama’s handling his duties as president.

According to the poll, which was released Tuesday, 48 percent of people questioned say that they agree with Obama on the issues that matter most to them, with 51 percent saying no. That’s a switch from April, when 57 percent said they agreed with the president on important issues, with 41 percent disagreeing.

I can buy 48/51, especially when they don’t specify the issues. But can you buy this? Moe Lane of Red State crunched the numbers to gauge the trends and put together this handy harbinger of Democratic catastrophe. Remember, Rasmussen measures likely voters:

moe

Ten for ten, and on only a few issues is it even close. Says Moe, “[P]articularly note the Health Care, Social Security, Economy, and Taxes numbers. Does the Democratic Party feel like demonizing their opponents on health care rationing some more?” Actually, I’m more interested in the numbers on Iraq. Why would the GOP lead by 19 points? And why would that lead have almost doubled in just the past month? Iraq’s been completely off the media radar screen. Either the respondents are so disillusioned with Hopenchange that they’re now reflexively answering each question with the equivalent of a middle finger to The One or there’s something fishy going on here.

But not as fishy as this. From the Harris Interactive poll, among a sample of 2,293 adults. You’ve got to be kidding:

harris

On 12 separate issues, the number willing to say he’s doing “pretty good” tops out at 41 percent? CNN has his job approval at 55 percent; even assuming that’s a bit skewed, it can’t be much worse than 50. In which case, how you do get from a high of 41 on individual issues to overall approval of 50? My inner pessimist says things can’t be this rosy for the GOP. Can they? Exit question: A lot of what’s driving this, no doubt, is lefty disaffection with The One on Afghanistan, gays in the military, the public option, etc. What sort of red meat can he throw them (besides bashing Fox News) to perk these numbers up? The obvious choice would seem to be repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell,” but if he does that then his problems with seniors are compounded. Not sure what his next move is here except passing whatever health-care bill he can and hoping it makes the left happy.


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Prepare to get wee-’wee’d up.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Way off-topic, Allahpundit, but when did Meggie Mac re-follow you?

Congrats! ;-)

Abby Adams on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

But have you seen his smile? Isn’t it awesome?

Mark1971 on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Either the respondents are so disillusioned with Hopenchange that they’re now reflexively answering each question with the equivalent of a middle finger to The One or there’s something fishy going on here.

why do you assume the public forgot how the GOP supported the surge while Obama dithered, if anything I would say when faced with a similar choice in Afghanistan Obama was found lacking compared to how the Republicans handled the situation.

rob verdi on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

His numbers are hittin’ the floor faster than a prom dress after a pint of sloe gin.

thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Polls don’t matter – Liberals

(three posts down)

bickering about sampling shows how much of a loser you all are – Liberals

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Sing it, ladies.

JammieWearingFool on October 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Nobel Prize for getting everything wrong!!!

Scott P on October 20, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Words versus deeds.

Heh.

Bruno Strozek on October 20, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Notice the poll doesn’t ask how he’s faring in the War on Fox News.

JammieWearingFool on October 20, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Polls, polls, everywhere you look. The only one that really matters is that which will be taken next year at the voting booth and then again in 2012, if Ogabe hasn’t yet been dragged from office by his ears.

Bishop on October 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Just words. Just speeches. Just bullsh*t.
obama sux!
You lose 2010 and 2012. Thank you, limp messiah.

HornetSting on October 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I think this rotten economy is starting to get to people…the hopenchange wears thin pretty fast when you don’t know where your next paycheck is coming from.

AUINSC on October 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Honestly, as encouraging as this is, some of the data here seems simply too grim to be true.

How so? People are really hurting out here. Unemployed, struggling and all the while Obama is having Earth,Wind & Fire parties & playing basketball for photo-ops.

Obama’s compassion rings hollow with the peasants, and the guillotine is getting sharpened for 2012.

Let them eat cake indeed.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM

I’d probably chalk up the inconsistent “Approve” number as a couple of things, partially still feeling some Bradley Effect, partially that he’s still somewhat new to the job, and perhaps not wanting to “pile on,” and unwilling to admit that they were duped last Nov.

JamesLee on October 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM

So many racists.

So little time to demagogue.

O, the pain.

Good Lt on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

by the way, RCP is pointing out the great Polling divergence.

rob verdi on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Clearly this is Fox News’ fault!

eforhan on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Iraq’s been completely off the media radar screen.

More than anything else, that is why the numbers have improved. Without the constant drumbeat of bad news being ginned up by the LSM, the publics view of Iraq has softened.

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Thank goodness the What Hearse has a new ragg mopp to wipe up all the wee wee.

Dhuka on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

What does this tell us? That the D’s have screwed the pooch. No surprise there –people wanted to like Obama, but now that they’ve seen the waxworks that he’s empowering, they aren’t happy about it.

What it doesn’t tell us — that the Republicans will benefit. They can, but they have a lot of work to do.

Mr. D on October 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM

When can we expect the trolls to drop in and defend all polls that aren’t named Rassmussen like they normally do?

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Polls don’t matter – Liberals

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

To be fair, that’s what we normally say. Considering it has people still supporting him overall, I’m not sure these can mean too much, but it’s not a bad sign at least.

It probably is unemployment. He sank a lot of money into “fixing” it without anything to show for it.

Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

My inner pessimist says things can’t be this rosy for the GOP. Can they?

Buyer’s remorse. After a night of drunken misadventure, the guy next to you does not look too hot in the morn

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

there’s got to be another presser coming up…I can feel it…

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Clearly we need guillotine pursuasion for The most merciful’s detracters.

daesleeper on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I wonder if Gibbs, Emanuel, or Axelrod think this is newsworthy???????

bluegrass on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

You know these polls are garbage when 46% agree with the GOp on healthcare when, as startfleet_moron told me, they do not have a plan.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Racists. All Racists.

Bwahahahahahaha!

HornetSting on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Dhuka on October 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Cool username

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

How so? People are really hurting out here. Unemployed, struggling and all the while Obama is having Earth,Wind & Fire parties & playing basketball for photo-ops.

Obama’s compassion rings hollow with the peasants, and the guillotine is getting sharpened for 2012.

Let them eat cake indeed.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM

That would make sense, but it doesn’t explain why they disagree with him on issues but otherwise still like him.

Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

i’m sure joe and mika won’t be touting this poll like they did with the post poll this am…

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Does he care? No. He is not about serving the people. He is about ruling the people.

Daggett on October 20, 2009 at 5:33 PM

there’s got to be another presser coming up…I can feel it…

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Pre-empting Game 1 of the World Series.

thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 5:33 PM

When can we expect the trolls to drop in and defend all polls that aren’t named Rassmussen like they normally do?

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM

They like to call Gallup, the “gold standard” in polls. Well Gallup is considerably lower than the polls sponsored by ABC, WaPo, Cnn, etc.

ICBM on October 20, 2009 at 5:33 PM

While Harry Reid and friends are meeting behind closed doors deciding how they’ll rape the public with the yet undisclosed provisions of Obamacare.

FU is their battle cry.

fogw on October 20, 2009 at 5:34 PM

thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 5:33 PM

no doubt…

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 5:34 PM

This is the phenomenon of contraindication and overexposure. Everybody THOUGHT Obama, AS A CANDIDATE, was compelling and charismatic and that the more he was seen and experienced the more people would believe in him. But in fact is, the more people see and hear Obama AS PRESIDENT the more they realize he is wordy, tinny, chippy, dishonest and insubstantial. This can’t do anything but get worse. And he can’t do anything but what all Leftists do when in trouble — find enemies and attack them, bring all conditions down to the most degraded level possible in order to make moral distinctions next to impossible, and create distractions on an increasing scale all the way up to war.

rrpjr on October 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Nyx

Thank you.

Dhuka on October 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM

The public never agreed with Obama on the issues.

But he was always vague, except for promising a tax cut to almost everyone and to go Rambo in Afghanistan, and the State Media covered for him.

He’s broken the first promise, and appears to be breaking the second. As President, Obama now has to take a stand on the issues, as even dithering is a choice with ramifications…and people don’t like the choices he is making.

The “Republicans for Obama” site’s number one reason to vote for the man;

“National Debt
The federal debt matters. We cannot saddle future taxpayers with having to service the debt we create with our irresponsible fiscal policies. Cutting the deficit will additionally decrease interest rates and increase private investment.”

If you liked this answer from candidate Obama, of course you aren’t happy with president Obama…

18-1 on October 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I think the Nobel fiasco crystallized his BS in people’s minds. Once someone see him as he REALLY IS, the truth becomes very clear.

Of course his numbers are going down, Ithey’ll slide further still by Dec. 31.

2010 election night is the real New Year’s Eve for 2011!

Stephanie on October 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM

My inner pessimist says things can’t be this rosy for the GOP. Can they?

–Not when you consider that the GOP seems to be basically divided three ways over the 2012 Presidential nominee and about 30% of the GOP refuse to vote for any nominee other than the one that they support.

Jimbo3 on October 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I just think it’s funny that our trolls in residence would probably say to this one that it doesn’t matter. All the while they were twisting themselves in knots trying to explain why WaPo skewed party affiliation and somehow trying to say that one is legitimate.

I’m not a huge fan of polls – too much polling is done, I think – as its the poll that becomes the issue, not the issue itself.

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM

That would make sense, but it doesn’t explain why they disagree with him on issues but otherwise still like him.

Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Bradley Effect. And the media is slobbering all over him. Most people just want to assure pollsters they are not racist so they state that they disagree with him on almost everything but wish him well. Lefties form only 20 percent of the population after all.

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM

but it doesn’t explain why they disagree with him on issues but otherwise still like him.

Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I think that People personally like Obama, but don’t like what he is doing. Plus, people who say they dislike Obama outloud might feel “racist”, so I expect his personal approval ratings to be high no matter how low his job approval ratings go.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM

If he is truly the Messiah, WHERE ARE THE JOBS? This will bring him down faster than flys on s!it

rpjones68 on October 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM

This is the phenomenon of contraindication and overexposure. Everybody THOUGHT Obama, AS A CANDIDATE, was compelling and charismatic and that the more he was seen and experienced the more people would believe in him. But in fact is, the more people see and hear Obama AS PRESIDENT the more they realize he is wordy, tinny, chippy, dishonest and insubstantial. This can’t do anything but get worse. And he can’t do anything but what all Leftists do when in trouble — find enemies and attack them, bring all conditions down to the most degraded level possible in order to make moral distinctions next to impossible, and create distractions on an increasing scale all the way up to war.

rrpjr on October 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM

+100

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Here’s a theory on the discrepancy between the numbers about Obama on specific issues as opposed to the personal job approval numbers. When the pollster asks questions concerning specific issues, the obvious focus then is those very issues. This allows the one being polled to have a sense of “freedom” to express what he thinks about Obama on those specific issues. However, when the pollster asks only about whether or not they approve of Obama, and there is not “issue crutch” the tendency on the part of the one being polled is to slip back into the “white guilt” phenomenon. They don’t want to sound like they don’t like the first black president. I’m sure this theory doesn’t cover the whole thing, but it may account for some of the difference in the numbers. If that is true, then it behooves the GOP to run on ideology and not personality.

Weight of Glory on October 20, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I can’t wait until Obama flies halfway around the world to secure the Special Olympics in the U.S.

John the Libertarian on October 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM

What a National Disaster.

marmaran on October 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM

The other thing is that the GOP only gets above 51% on one issue: National Security, although it does get 50% on Taxes and Iraq. The GOP is getting a plurality on most of these issues, rather than a majority. It’s not clear to me that the GOP has won over the public.

Jimbo3 on October 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM

the number could seem low, if the respondents had a choice of ‘no opinion.’ Then a significant percentage would have been excluded.

mperek on October 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Jimbo3 on October 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM

That’s an odd measure, given that the Dems don’t even poll over 51% on anything. Geesh.

That anyone supports the GOP, given its complete ineptitude, amazes me.

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM

how you do get from a high of 41 on individual issues to overall approval of 50?

Do I have to be the one who says it?

It’s because he’s black.

pseudonominus on October 20, 2009 at 5:46 PM

The other thing is that the GOP only gets above 51% on one issue: National Security, although it does get 50% on Taxes and Iraq. The GOP is getting a plurality on most of these issues, rather than a majority. It’s not clear to me that the GOP has won over the public.

Jimbo3 on October 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM

But it should be clear that the dems are losing the public.

ICBM on October 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM

The other thing is that the GOP only gets above 51% on one issue: National Security, although it does get 50% on Taxes and Iraq. The GOP is getting a plurality on most of these issues, rather than a majority. It’s not clear to me that the GOP has won over the public.

Jimbo3 on October 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM

I think people are just fed up with the federal government.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM

If he is truly the Messiah, WHERE ARE THE JOBS? This will bring him down faster than flys on s!it

rpjones68 on October 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Haven’t you heard? Present unemployment rates are now the new “normal.” That’s going to be a tough sell, I think.

a capella on October 20, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Thanks for figuring this out in time for the 2008 elections, America… oh, wait! Idiots.

Bill Maher is right, Americans are stupid. How else could we have elected this guy?

RightWinged on October 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM

I think people are just fed up with the federal government.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM

We might see an anti-incumbent wave in 2010. It would benefit the GOP since they are the party out of power but there is a lot of populist anger to go around.

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Why do you link to ace? That guy is a moron.

faraway on October 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM

The Anointed One has gone from petulant didacticism to hysterical petulant didacticism.

Dhuka on October 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM

“Not sure what his next move is here except passing whatever health-care bill he can and hoping it makes the left happy.”

OK, so you’re really writing rhetorically? Makes the left happy. Yeah, right. This is surely a theoretical construct, the left being happy and all. IF all the the Dems bills, taxes, decrees, regulations, rules, and feel-goods were all suddenly passed, active, and beyond recall, the Left would still be unhappy. They’d still find something to be neurotically focused on as unfair, unjust, and just plain mean.

But thanks for playing.

Robert17 on October 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Stop it CNN! You’re killing Allah. HA! HA! HA!

RMR on October 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM

We might see an anti-incumbent wave in 2010. It would benefit the GOP since they are the party out of power but there is a lot of populist anger to go around.

nyx on October 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM

I am glad I have no porky GOP representing me at this time, no GOP representation period, so I do not have to go through the dilemma of what to do in that case.

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Barry……. “move along nothing to see here”

grapeknutz on October 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM

American Idol!

When is someone going to remix Phil Hartman’s Sassy skit for Obama?

JohnJ on October 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM

I’m thinking we should just chip in, buy him his pony, and let him ride off….woo hooing to his hearts’ content. Let’s put Joe in charge. At least he’s worth a few laughs every now and then.

BobMbx on October 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM

I knew when I talked to some of my liberal friends today about Barry’s poll numbers that the data was only scratching the surface. Most of my lib pals sentiments actually surpassed the dismal approval ratings indicated in the polls. One even exclaimed: “He’s done! I think the big O has cooked his own goose.”

Even many in his base (sans the communists) can’t stand him.

anXdem on October 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Polls, polls, everywhere you look. The only one that really matters is that which will be taken next year at the voting booth and then again in 2012, if Ogabe hasn’t yet been dragged from office by his ears.

Bishop on October 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM

These are not the polls I used to know.

BobMbx on October 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM

The Lefty disaffection is not a fluke and not likely to diminish. Those who expect the most of a dishonorable, dishonest person are the most disappointed, and angriest. Given that the Dems are the girly party, we’re talking woman scorned anger.

Right now the angry Left is pointing its daggers at Harry Reid. Why not? He’s the low-hanging fruit. But once Reid is gone (and won’t that be a nice turn of events) and once Pelosi is out as SOH, eventually the Left will turn to (and on) The One.

EMD on October 20, 2009 at 5:55 PM

WashJeff on October 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM

I’m in that boat…I like my guy, Trent Franks…there are a few shiny apples in the House that need to stay

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Obama = Paper Mario. Pretty on both sides….no depth.

BobMbx on October 20, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Heckuva job, Barry!

I.M. Shatner on October 20, 2009 at 5:56 PM

The emperor has no Chia hair.

When the ChiaObamas are now at the $5.00 bin at the local Shop & Rob, you know it’s bad.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Way off-topic, Allahpundit, but when did Meggie Mac re-follow you?

Congrats! ;-)

Abby Adams on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

It happened last week immediately after DumbPictureGate. Nice to know where his loyalties lie, eh? An utter moron who unfairly desecrated his boss? Meggie + Allah 4ever. Seems they deserve each other.

rinohumper on October 20, 2009 at 5:59 PM

love the foo-foo dog that Beck was just carrying around…

:-)

cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM

OT:Inohfe endorses Rubio over Crist.

Enoxo on October 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM

The emperor has no Chia hair.

When the ChiaObamas are now at the $5.00 bin at the local Shop & Rob, you know it’s bad.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Since we have Mao Obama junk, the ChiaObamas should be renamed Che Obamas.

ICBM on October 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Of course, there’s no one to blame for this catastrophic plunge but Fox News.

Oh … and Bush.

darwin on October 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM

darwin on October 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM

HALLIBURTON!!!

thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Start with the most credible, CNN:

Gibbs now says CNN’s not really a news organization.

BacaDog on October 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM

What a surprise. Maybe Americans don’t like arrogant, uncompromising, lying leaders trying to shove their agenda down their throats.

rjoco1 on October 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I think this rotten economy is starting to get to people…the hopenchange wears thin pretty fast when you don’t know where your next paycheck is coming from.

AUINSC on October 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM

We are near the start of the Christmas shopping season and people are looking into their wallets to buy that new shiny whatever and realizing they can’t afford it.

cobrakai99 on October 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM

When the ChiaObamas are now at the $5.00 bin at the local Shop & Rob, you know it’s bad.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Wholesale cost is higher than that (I sell them). They’d simply disappear rather than go that low. I’d rather throw them away then sell them for $5. But I’ll stock em for the holidays. Sure, I get calls from crazy people on occasion, but that’s really just an added benefit.

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Allah, you forget, Barry is RIGHT, everyone else is WRONG. He will do what he wants as long as the trail is to the left. He may be a one-term president, but he’s going to screw things up as much as he can. So the Democrats lose for a few cycles, who cares. Not Barry. Besides, the public has a short memory.

GarandFan on October 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Just heard that Zero can start bringing some of the terrorist from GITMO to the US for trial. Congress just approved this. Wonder if the people will disagree with Zero on this issue too.

Not good for us if these guys come here and get released.

Brat4life on October 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Actually, I’m more interested in the numbers on Iraq. Why would the GOP lead by 19 points?

Because respondents are lumping Afghanistan in with Iraq when they answer the question?

malclave on October 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Allah, I’d love to see you do the same kind of “analysis’ on a Palin poll… wouldn’t that be special…

CCRWM on October 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM

But have you seen his smile? Isn’t it awesome?

Mark1971 on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Which one you mean? The horizontal or the vertical?

Cybergeezer on October 20, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Commies are toast. The best the blue dogs can do is to vote NO on healthcare takeover and move to the right in line with the sentiment of Americans. Obama won on a mountain of lies. We’re STILL a center-right country. Obama won on a MOUNTAIN of LIES.

marklmail on October 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM

His numbers are hittin’ the floor faster than a prom dress after a pint of sloe gin.

thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

You bad; But so good!

Cybergeezer on October 20, 2009 at 6:15 PM

That would make sense, but it doesn’t explain why they disagree with him on issues but otherwise still like him.
Esthier on October 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Echoing many on this thread, they say they “still like him” so the pollster doesn’t think they are racist.

Pure and simple.

marybel on October 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Whatever we do … don’t listen to the beltway GOP. They’d blow a 99 meter lead in a 100 meter race.

darwin on October 20, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Start with the most credible, CNN:

Bahahaha.

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2009 at 6:20 PM

SWEET!!!!!:):)

ohiobabe on October 20, 2009 at 6:23 PM

Barackus Hubris Maximus *Hail Caesar!* will fiddle while America burns.

SilverStar830 on October 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM

BEING LIED TO! On everything!!

People are sick and tired of the Chicago style politics moving to D.C. to combine with the already filthy goings on in that great haven for the guilty. They/We were told many things and few, if any, of them have come to fruition. All we get are lies, contradictions, finger-pointing (at George W. Bush, in particular) and much more of what we were promised would CHANGE. It not only hasn’t CHANGED; It’s WORSE now than ever.

The folks are pulling back the curtain and exposing the fraud. Barack Obama is the puppet and George Schwartz Soros is pulling every string. MoveOn.org is running the country now. Isn’t that just grand?

GoldenEagle4444 on October 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Last night on the ledge with bottle in hand – tonight dancing in the streets. Three more years of this?

gopmom on October 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM

They’d simply disappear rather than go that low. I’d rather throw them away then sell them for $5. But I’ll stock em for the holidays. Sure, I get calls from crazy people on occasion, but that’s really just an added benefit.

lorien1973 on October 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM

I bought mine for $5.99 at a corner store here in Portland. Being the capitalist I am, I think I might go back and buy what they have left and make a profit!

Thanks Lorien.

portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 6:31 PM

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